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fabdante · 1 month
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What do you think about reboot Vergil's relationship with Eva? Especially during Vergil's Downfall? Do you think Vergil would bring it up to Dante afterwards, if he returns post-Downfall?
I think both Vergil's have very complicated relationships with their mother.
Reboot especially I think. I have a related series of posts I still need to finish about Eva and Sparda and the twins (part one and part two!) that I'm definitely going to rehash a bit here!
This is going to perhaps be a bit speculative and headcanony like the two posts linked above. It's also going to like depend on the notion that we really don't like...know what Eva is in Vergil's Downfall. Like if it really is her, if it's a version of her Vergil's made up, if it's her ghost, if it's some impression of her made on the world, etc. I've mentioned in other posts at more length that I prefer the idea of Vergil's Downfall being entirely an internal journey, and while this isn't largely contradicted by the game I do know it is meant to be like...external (that said neither really clarifies what Eva is in Downfall)
Carrying on now! Longish post about Vergil and Eva's relationship as I tend to headcanon/interpret it under the cut!
I know that they're not supposed to play favorites, in Downfall whatever Eva is claims she didn't, and all but in my headcanons and interpretations of the reboot, I tend to poise Vergil and Sparda's favorite and Dante as Eva's. And this is largely due to which parent they each seem to mirror more. I mean, in game we are constantly told Dante is very similar to Sparda by people who knew Sparda very well. People like Phineas and even Mundus, probably the character closest to him we meet in the game outside of Eva.
We have, however, one instance were someone compares Dante to Eva. This was pointed out to me by @kobochajunkbox in part two of the Eva and Sparda post (my friend I hope you do not mind me tagging you asdfghjk, credit where credit is due). In it Phineas says he see's Eva in Dante. And then promptly suggests that Dante should kill Lilith and her unborn (side note does the baby count as unborn after that boss fight I have no idea) child.
And this is maybe reading a lot into the order of lines here but it almost gives off this vibe that Phineas is mentioning this plan because Dante reminds him of Eva. Because this is a line of thinking the Eva he knew would have. Because Phineas sees Eva in Dante, because he knew Eva on some level, because Eva is in this series the sort of person who would be ok with the plan of killing a woman and her child if it meant the possibility of a greater good, then Phineas now thinks Dante can stomach doing the same.
Which, again, may be reading too much into things but I find this take on Eva just really interesting. I find this version of her, being ruthless and scary and a sort of willing to do what she has to for her plans and ideas sort of person, interesting. Particularly coming from a character like her, an angel in the reboot. I mention it semi often but I personally like the idea of scary angel reboot Eva. I like the idea of her being just as dangerous and deadly as Sparda. I find it interesting, even if there might be little to go off there. I find it even more interesting if she was all of that and was trying to change, was trying to become a different person, even while she is aware she is a person capable of great violence and great harm who has historically caused great violence and great harm (I mean, just look at what the angels and demons both did to the Nephilim to begin with)
Which brings me back to my point.
If we read Eva in this way, this person who is willing to do what she must for a plan, no matter the costs...well...she sounds a little similar. She sounds like Vergil.
And I think this might just be why she favored Dante, particularly when we consider Eva after her fall from grace. I suggest in my Eva and Sparda posts my idea of Eva in the reboot, and that is this character who longs for a bit of this fire she sees humanity have because she herself feels cold and detached. She herself is used to seeing herself as a sort of cog in a machine, this ruthless and terribly scary thing. I think she maybe wanted to change that, and I think maybe when she saw Dante, this kid so full of life and energy, that she thought maybe she could tap into that life.
With Vergil, though, I wonder if he sort of...worried her. Because he reminded her too much of herself. Willing to do anything for his ideals, no matter who it hurt, no matter what damage it caused. Reboot Vergil in particular seems like the sort of guy chasing a destiny he has given himself (as implied by some of his lines but also my favorite bit of deleted dialogue also in the dubious canon of the Vergil Chronicles, I have not forgotten Kat calling him destiny boy and so on and so forth).
I think to further this like Eva and Vergil parallel that I find interesting is just how often Vergil is poised with more angelic imagery in the game. Like how when we meet him he's bathed in light or how he's you know, the blue twin. There's also something to be said about the games visuals that ties into this meta I wrote about Vergil and my belothed, Bernini. Something something, marble statue boy, something something, beauty is goodness is godliness in classical art something something angels. Anywho!
It's perhaps a lot to use all of this to suggest that Eva may have liked one of her kids more, but she also doesn't really talk about Vergil that time her ghost or whatever figment of her visits Dante in the game. She doesn't even mention him. Which to be fair like sure she's talking to Dante but she, again, doesn't say anything like 'I failed to protect you and your brother' or 'We didn't give you and your brother choices' like anything she brings up that also involves Vergil she just...leaves out Vergil. She just doesn't mention him. Which feels a bit odd?
And I do want to be clear I don't think Eva like...hates Vergil like she can favor Dante and still love both of her sons like she clearly cares about both of her children. They just have such a fascinating relationship if we look at it from this angle. I mean, there had to be some reason why reboot Vergil feels like his mother favored his brother. Like there has to be some reason why he's come to that conclusion, and it's clearly something that's bothered him for some time given the entirety of Downfall. Even if Eva didn't mean to, she left that impression on her son.
So, I think the relationship between Eva and Vergil is definitely like...really complicated. Far more complicated then their preboot counter parts, even though I mean they are still complicated (perhaps because we have less concrete answers with the reboot).
I would like to think if Vergil came back for good, not just back to be a menace, that he'd be able to talk to Dante about this sometime. Even just to see Eva outside of his own perspective of her. Like, I think it'd be good for the twins to be able to talk about Vergils inadequacies about himself which are not Dante's fault but he needs to talk it out with someone asdfghjkl
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- Master Post of DMC fics by Rubixa Seraph -
(Come leave a comment, even a ❤️ comment will make my day!)
Series: Reignite the Flame
[Mostly canon-compliant series, with my take on who Nero’s mother is, and why she disappeared. At the same time, it looks like Dante had a daughter he didn’t know about, and she very much wishes to meet him.]
Hell Froze Over, and We Shall Reignite It - [Multi-chapter, ongoing]  Post DMC5, where Vergil, Dante, and Nero collectively find that their family is bigger than they thought. They find Nero’s mother down in Hell, and Nero finds a cousin. Yes, Dante, you do not have the high ground regarding the whole “you have a kid and didn’t know it??”
Could Have Been a Fever Dream - [One Shot, NSFW 🌶️] A little background on how Vergil met Sera, and that one spicy night they had together.
Edge of Infinity With You - [One Shot, NSFW 🌶️] A little background on how Dante met Kassy, and the whole night of fun they had.
FANART: Seraphina Valkyrie Character Design
Series: Fortune Favors the Bold
[Eva lives, and the twins grew up in Fortuna and are Holy Knights AU.]
Sons of Fortune - [Multi-chapter, ongoing] An AU where Eva, Vergil, and Dante collectively survived the attack from Mundus, and moved to Fortuna, where Vergil and Dante grow up in a more stable environment. The twins will get to have a place to call home, and even more people to love and make family with. Lots of family fluff, and I think this qualifies as a kid-fic. 
Practical Birthday Gifts -  [One Shot, NSFW 🌶️] “And there was only one bed!” trope. Dante x OC (Kassy) and a spicy night. Of course, this was indulgent smut. 
FANART: Holy Knight Vergil and Dante Sparda Plushie for Nero
Series:  This is Not an Office Rom-Com
[Office AU, no supernatural things, everyone is human. Slow burn drabbles of reader!insert working at the office and will slowly find themselves in a three-way relationship with Vergil and Dante.]
Crayon Rainbows After Rain - [One Shot] “Prequel” to the start of the series, as a bit of background to the AU and family setup of our cast.
I Owe You Lunch - [One Shot] Reader spills two whole lunch containers, that had a sticky note on it saying it belonged to Dante. Little did you know, just buying him lunch wasn’t the end of the scenario...
Espresso Sized Facts - [One Shot] Reader teaches Nero (who is on summer break and visiting the office) how to use the company’s espresso machine. You learn a bit more about drink and dessert preferences of the Sparda family. And you still don’t know who Nero’s and Vitale’s dad is.
Other Works and Series:
Scales, Feathers, and Eggshells -  [Multi-chapter, ongoing] 1k (roughly) word per chapter challenge! AU where Nero is 1/4 human, 3/4 devil, and 100% cute! The story of Vergil and his devilish mate raising a little hatchling.
Shattered Mirrors Repaired With Gold - [Series, WIP] This is the “What if Dante and Vergil’s positions were switched?” AU. Except I haven’t finished writing that part yet. Instead, you have two stories about Credo and Noel right now. Who is Noel? Not-actually-Nero... Dante’s daughter left in Fortuna. Yep.
The Danger of Doppelgängers - [Two-shot, WIP] The Noir AU DMC zine may not have made it to production stage, but I still have something to show for it. This was my piece, and I have a follow-up in due time.
Through the Lens of the Beholder -  [Multi-chapter, ongoing] Photographer!Reader, slight canon divergence (for reader's existence), following your photo-filled journey with the cast through DMC5. You will ogle all of the cast. All of them.
Kaleidoscope Worlds - Prompt Fills  All of my tumblr prompt requests go here. The first chapter has a table of contents detailing what prompts, with general tag-summaries. 
Checkmate Fate - [Series] Some indulgent canon-divergence, of what if Vergil and Nero’s mother reunited between the events of DMC3 and DMC1. Various flavors of family reunion fics. 
Blessings of Family - [Series] A “what-if” AU to my Reignite series, where Dante does get to know about Snow’s existence, and does his best to raise a happy family. A drabble-esque series outlining how much his family would mean to him, and how it affects how he welcomes Vergil back, post DMC5, among more family fluff.
Full Course - [Series, NSFW 🌶️] Don’t ask how we got here. Just know that this is where we are: Reader and Vergil acts on the idea of giving Nero a sibling. Nero has to process this news. Dadgil plus Spicy stuff. I blame tumblr for this one.
Hierarchy of Kings -  [Multi-chapter, ongoing]  I am prone to falling into multi-verse hell. This is an AU with Vergil meeting Roy King, an OC of mine. It’s a different flavor of world from Reignite, and is supposed to be all fluff-indulgent. Vergil needs a friend to have heart-to-hearts with, and if that friend becomes boyfriend, why not? 
Two Undergrads and a Cat - [One-Shot, 2020 Secret Santa Gift] A Reader x V “before established relationship” College AU fic. 
How to Ensure Survival When You Are Caught By the Most Dangerous Devils From Topside -  [One-Shot, NSFW 🌶️] A devil!reader insert story of getting some feral love in your favorite two devils’ nest. Absolute kink-fill. Please check tags for more details.
A Perfect Love is Not Picky and To Catch a Fleeting Presence - [One-Shots, NSFW 🌶️] My spicy contributions to the digital “after dark” Jackpot Dante zine!
DMCWeek 2020 - This links to a post of all 7 fics with their titles, themes, and summaries.
Headcannon Posts:
[I don’t do these often.]
🌶️ NSFW Alphabet J and V
🌶️ NSFW Alphabet X, D, and K
‘Useless’ Talent head canons
Sera and Vergil gift-giving thoughts
Kassy and Dante on hand-holding and declarations of love
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