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#i dont know how many people following me here or twitter actually knew me prior to. whatever the fuck
beetolbugs · 1 year
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Omg I think I remember u from Deviantart from like 2016- your art has improved so much!!!! I didn't even recognize your style at first, but it looks fantastic!! Was really cool to stumble upon your stuff again randomly :]
ah the terrifying ordeal of being known /j
BUT WAA THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT ;;
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pestopascal · 3 years
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what do you mean by that doesnt make you a bad person for not knowing? i mean people could at least do their research into characters before claiming they didnt know shit lmao
mmm yes and no! as i said in the ask before this, western comics as a form of media is incredibly convoluted to get into. it’s actually ridiculous and as i said, i genuinely wonder how that medium of entertainment has lasted into the 21st century with all the reboots, character rewrites, necessary requirement to also read pages from other concurrently running comics, etc etc.
naturally, through absorbing material through mutuals or who you follow or whatnot, as well as maybe watching the occasional movie/tv show/animated one, you will gleam enough information on a character, in this case nightwing, to probably learn that in the early 2000s, they shook out some of the cobwebs in his backstory to make him romani instead of yknow. vaguely white. i think that little bit of information has lasted longer than anything else truly beyond ‘he was robin’, and in some instances people understandably consider that to be the initial... creation take. which is fair! i get that. i did think that too before i genuinely went right into reading comics 5+ yrs ago. 
for me personally another example which is far more recent in terms of media, is that i personally had always assumed scarlet witch/wanda maximoff was romani because that was something i almost always knew about her, without actually reading her comics or really any marvel material. even seeing her in the movies it was kind of hhrrrrmmmm with the way they wrote in her involvement with hyrda. upon reading her wiki page, i learned that for like 30 years, magneto was assumed to be her and pietro’s father, until it was changed in 2014. also didnt know that in the comics she actually did marry vision lmao. but i didn’t know that on the odd occasion, a marvel writer would come in and erase her identity like that to the point apparently its hotly debated??? ok.jpg. like whatever info i had gleamed about her was from like the occasional post on twitter back in like 2014, and maybe paying attention to the mcu.
so... yeah. i dont think not knowing what the actual reasons behind the decision to make dick grayson romani, at least for a period of time, doesn’t make you a bad person. how were you genuinely supposed to know? maybe one day you actually are interested enough to google a comic book character youve seen around. and you actually do happen to stumble down the path of people actually explaining devin grayson’s involvement in nightwing’s early 00′s story. or, you could end up on a million other different threads. you could get stuck in a timeless loop of how many times batman has been written and by how many different people, and how nightwing was at one point batman (the best batman, btw, hands down). you could end up with people still to this day debating lobdell’s portrayal of red hood, starfire and arsenal, even though they seemed to have completely buried that initial run, because it relates to starfire’s sexy amnesia and dick/kori’s prior relationship. there’s no straight answers on the internet to have told someone earlier that devin grayson’s intentions were not on the side of actual diversity and representation. so... i dont think you can blame people for either trying to research and just giving up because there’s too much shit stuffed around the actual answer, or just accepting a fact because... everyone else had. with relativeness applied here, obviously, talking about a comic book character, and ofc my opinion in all of this. someone else may have some other opinion and that’s fair.
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