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linkspooky · 2 years

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Is Himiko Toga inspired by Harley Quinn?

Ignore the clickbaity title I just couldn’t think of anything else to call this post. This is the second in a series of posts I’m making, using my knowledge of both manga and american omics to sort of analyze possible influences that super hero comics could have had in Horikoshi’s My Hero Academia.

The joker and Harley Quinn are characters that Horikoshi has paid homage too before. “All it takes is one bad day” is a quote from Alan Moore’s the Killing Joke, that HK uses in association with Twice. Rikiya Yotsubashi aka Re-Destro physically looks like the joker, and a few of his panels in his introduction are direct visual references. The posing of Toga and Twice is also a reference is a reference to a pretty famous comic book cover of a one shot entitled “Batman: Harley Quinn.”

But, is the character Himiko Toga herself, a girl who leaves a normal life behind and enters a life of villainry in pursuit of an obsessive mad love inspired by Harley Quinn? Let’s do a compare and contrast under the cut.

1. Mad, Bloody Love

There are a lot of immediate parallels between the two characters you could point out right away. They are both blonde characters who’s signature look is to always have their hair done up in twin tails (though Toga’s is twin buns). Their hair is even symbolic for their personality, Harley’s pigtails represent her immaturity, Toga’s messy buns how difficult she is to control, Toga wore her hair down in her youth when she was trying to fit in,a nd Harley when she was a working professional kept hers in a tight bun behind her to show how restrained she used to be.

They are both characters who,moreso than other villains are known for running away from a normal life. Harleen Quinzell was a promising psychiatrist, a career woman who was an up-and-comer in her field. Everyone around her including Bruce was shocked how she could leave all of that behind. Unlike say, characters like Ivy who were strapped to a table and transformed into what they were, Harley willingly ran away.

Toga is also someone questioned by everyone around her again and again why she would deliberately leave a normal life behind, to first become a runaway, and then a villain. It’s unfathomable to them how someone so dark could spring from a middle school girl who comes a well to do household.

They’re both characters who are not the main villain, but serve as a sidekick and right hand to a bigger villain. Toga’s not the biggest threat in the league, she’s the support character to other league members like Twice, in part due to being the youngest. She’s also the only female member of the league, in the same vein Harley is the female counterpart of a well known male villain.

They’re both characters who are primarily driven by their search for love, for Harley it’s pursuing a relationship with a man that quickly turns abusive, and then staying with him despite all common sense. For Toga it’s more of a love she has for everyone, one sided crushes that mutate into her taking blood from the victims of her love.

However, you could also say there are a lot of differences between them two. Toga comes from a well off family, and Harley was lower middle class. Toga is the victim of familial abuse forcing her to hide her true self because her parents found her quirk disgusting, who was then abandoned and forced to run away after her first violent incident. Harley is a victim in a sense, but she was an adult when she got into that relationship, and she also chose in a way to leave everything behind and become a villain so she is in a more complicated way a nuanced villain and victim.

Harley is an adult leaving her life behind, Toga a teeange runaway. Harley is pretty much the victim of love, while Toga while a victim in other senses, does have a tendency to stab her victims. Harley is a psychiatrist while Toga is mentioned as being the victim of “Quirk Counselling” a flawed system of trying to assimilate children with deviant or different quirks. You could even count her as a victim of psychiatric abuse.

If you were to just list their similarities and differences, they’re as different in as many ways as they are alike, so let’s look at something else instead. Harley’s origin comic is called “Mad Love” (I’m going to be using the BTAS version of Harley because that is where her character orginated from and the most well known version) and Toga’s “Bloody Love.”

Their origins go to show both of them are characters of transformation. Both stories start with the characters around them questioning just how they could have changed so much into the person they are now.

Toga’s backstory makes use of masks as a symbol, of Toga having to continuously mask who she was in front of others in order to appear normal. Batman goes to mention that Harley’s goofy behavior hides a really devious mind.

They are both characters who exhibit a behavior of wearing masks. For Harley it’s much more literal, unlike the joker who’s skin was bleached she puts on clown makeup and a mask. When she takes it off she could be any normal person, she even does so in the events of the origin comic herself to convince Batman of her innocence and lay a trap for him. Toga also, physically transforms but she started out hiding her quirk in front of nromals and appearing as a normal middle school girl.

They are two characters who are seen as having two distinct selves, their normal original self, and the deviant villain they became, and most people around them can’t possibly understand how the girl they used to be had fallen so far. Except for them, there’s really not that much of a change.

Harley and Toga are people who have always worn masks, so for them, the change from hero to villain is something as simple as changing the mask they wear. Curious the PLF member fighting against her asks how a girl could run away from a normal life and turned into such a mad monster, but for Toga this is her normal, this is the person she’s always been she simply stopped trying to hide it in front of others.

Of course as I said there’s another layer to this. Toga’s outright villain persona where she selfishly sucks the blood of people she loves and kills them, is yet another mask she wore. There are different sides of Toga depending on who she is interacting with, for all the bloodshed she’s capable of, she’s also capable of being a generally empathic and nurting person towards Twice. Twice even goes out of his way to say this to Hawks, that Toga isn’t the kind of person Hawks would think twice about killing, and yet Toga is a person who showed him kindness and understanding when no one else would.

Harley and Toga in their previous lives were lacking in something, something made them feel unloved and isolated to such extreme extents, that they were driven to snap and become someone else entirely in pursuit of that love they were missing. What is seen by everyone else around them as them descending into insanity, is actually just another mask they chose to wear. What’s seen as a total change in personality, is just an expression of who they are.

The strongest similarity between Harley and Toga is that they are both essentially chameleons, they are characters who continually change who they are in pursuit of love. Toga does this physically, her quirk involves her taking on the apperaance of anyone who’s blood she has sucked. Harley however, puts on a physical costume. Of all Batman Villains, Harley doesn’t make her own costume, rather she steals the identity and motif of the Joker the object of her affectsions. Just like Toga steals the appearance of those she loves, Harley puts on a costume that makes her a mirror image to the man she loves.

When Harleen Quinzel adopts the identity of Harley Quinn she is essentially becoming a mirror image to the joker. Batman even says, he doesn’t love anyone except maybe himself, and therefore what he sees of himself in her.

Of course, even after trying to take on their new identity in search of the love they found missing in their old lives, they both suffer just as much. Toga’s desire to be normal is undercut by her actions with the league of villains, because the more destruction she causes, the more she can’t be accepted by normal people like Ochaco. Toga dreams of becoming more like her, but she also finds herself rejected again, because Ochaco is not able to swallow some of the unsavory aspects of her personality, and the bodies she’s left behind her.

Toga created her mask to find acceptance with people, and for a time she did find it with the league, however with the league currently torn apart with the death of twice and AFO’s machinations, and her continued rejection by the heroes, the mask is now something that Toga cries underneath. She feels just as rejected as she did when she was a middle schooler, even though she became a villain in the first place to escape such a thing.

Harley suffers under her mask in a similiar tragic fashion, she ran away from her perviously life and changed everything about her identity to be loved, and finds herself continually abused and taken for granted by her lover. When she suffers that rejection again, it pushes her into further and further extremes as it does Toga.

Toga after the death of Twice and rejection by Ochaco is at her lowest point yet, where beforehand she was willing to talk and looking to come to some sort of understanding between them, now she’s become her moth lethal and aggressive. Toga and Harley are both characters who center both their entire identity around loved and being loved, and also the pursuit of their goals around finding that love, and it’s behavior that causes them to crumble beneath the masks they wear to try to be loved. The more they change themselves in pursuit of love, the more unstable they get, and the reason why is because they probably weren’t even seeking love in the first place, but rather acceptance.

They changed themselves so much trying to be accepted, they forgot what they wanted was to be accepted for who they really were. That’s why, both characters deranged and violent as they may be are also truly tragic at heart (pardon the pun).

#himiko toga #harley quinn #mad love #mha meta #my hero academia meta #my hero academia #dc comics #comics meta #idk what to tag this #batman

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999-roses · 11 months

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while we're talking about north korean defector industry being part of the [western - including south korean] media agenda to smear, vilify, and discredit the DPRK,, (particularly how specific defectors seriously make serious bank from selling these lies through books and media appearances, although, this is quite the exception and not the norm)

consider Operation Yellowbird. a short background:

Operation Yellowbird was a collaborative effort between British HK, MI6, CIA and other actors to smuggle persons wanted for their dissident actions during the 1989 protests in Beijing.

known CIA regime change agents were spotted (and reported by western media sources!) in the area during the protests in Beijing, on and near Tiananmen Square in summer of 1989.

for those of you who still believe in the "Tiananmen Massacre" narrative, and are skeptical about official Chinese accounts, here is a reading list, including accounts and news articles from western journalists who were there on the ground, about what actually happened. available here (hint there was no mass killing of civilians)

These evacuated "dissidents" were quickly admitted to Ivy league and other high-prestige academic institutions in the west, some even awarded honorary degrees. Some of the most prominent people relocated by Operation Yellowbird are now business and tech execs, venture capitalists/financial managers, NGO founders living comfortable lives in the west.

Their exaggerated (and inconsistent) recollections of the protests that ended with June 4th, recounted to western media years later while living in the west, has built up the myth of a massacre of civilians by an "authoritarian and totalitarian" Chinese government. They're still making documentaries and media appearances and testifying to US Congress. The mischaracterization of the events in summer 1989 that feeds into sinophobic narratives about Chinese people and the Chinese government are built on hyperbolic recollections and outright lies, and ritualistic recounting every year by these people keeps this narrative afloat in the minds of westerners. Concern for "human rights violations," especially when exaggerated or even built on towers of lies, are a common sympathy-garnering tactic for manufacturing thirst and support for "intervention" (read: war) by portraying “enemies” as monsters, and also works to muddy the waters about actual human rights violations regularly committed by the United States, both foreign and domestic.

Yeah we should absolutely dunk on the Yeonmi Parks. But we should also very much also dunk on "What we are looking anticipating is bloodshed, and only when the square is filled with rivers of blood will Chinese unite, but how could I tell my followers that I need them to sacrifice their lives [for "our" cause]?... But I cannot continue on in square, I'm different from them, I'm on a blacklist, I don't want to die." Chai Ling

#&the diaspora living the in west have the audacity to ask others to join their stopaapihate campaign. girl the call is coming from the house #I've seen plenty of people online call Ling a CIA asset but I'll leave that judgment up to others #she's apparently a born-again Christian. & has started to use language equating the CPC to Satan #hmmm yeah it smells kinda like the falungong cult's primary directive to rid the earth of the 'evil' the communist party in china #so their cult leader lihongzhi can just walk back into china become the One True Messiah-Leader or whatever fantasy #sino #media matters #sinophobia

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silverloreley · 1 year

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The ones in-between

Or, in Descendants, all the kids who were nor considered Villains/Heroes but not part of the VKs/HKs we saw either.

I’ll explain. You know all those characters we know exist because they were in sequels, series, or in the background of the main stories? The ones old enough to remember how things were before Auradon was founded, the ones sent to the Isle even if they were children? The firsborns of Heroes who are too old to fit in with Ben’s age group? Those ones, who we assume must be part of the Descendants Universe, but we have no info about.

Now, I want to compile a list and I’d love for help from the fandom. So I’ll put here the ones I thought about and you can add the ones you remember in the notes (or PM me) so I can update this post with all the additions and make this a masterpost for everyone to rely on for fics.

I’m talking about only and exclusively about characters that appeared in Disney materials, not OCs. Please don’t send OCs, they don’t fit in this list and I’m not interested in them here. People mentioned in the Descendants extra materials (the books, game and so on) won’t be counted either. I have yet to decide if we should consider the main characters of the new movies (Miguel Rivera, the Madrigal children, Luca and Alberto, Mei Lee...) in this list, but I think it’d be better if we didn’t, as those stories can take place anytime in the Auradon history as most of them don’t have actual Villains.

Auradon:

Chip Potts (although some assume he’s the driver sent to get the Rotten Four)

Hamish, Hubert and Harris (Merida’s brothers)

Ralphie of Maldonia (Naveen’s brother)

Zephir de Chateaupers (Esmeralda and Phebus’ son)

Melody (Ariel and Eric’s daughter)

Jane and Danny (Wendy’s children)

Amber Dearly (Anita’s niece)

Ranjan (Mowgli’s adoptive brother)

Chaka, Tipo and Yupi (Pacha’s children)

Penny and Cody (from The Rescuers I and II)

Kiera and Catalina (Angry and Red, from the Tangled series)

Dhandi (Eden’s sort-of adopted child, from the Aladdin series)

Elisa (niece of Fairy Godmother, from extra books)

Max (Charlotte LaBouff’s cousin, also from extra books)

Jenna, Rafi and Salima (Aladdin and Jasmine sort-of adopted kids, also from books)

Glauco (Snow White’s son, from some old comics. like 1939 old)

Isle of the Lost:

Ivy and Hunter de Vil (Cruella’s niblings, from the series)

Lucignolo (Lampwick, from Pinocchio, I refuse to use the americanized name here) and the donkey boys

Varian (from Tangled the series)

Zim and Zam (Yzma’s nephews from the series Emperor’s New School)

EDIT: added a few more names, thanks to @descendants-extended

#disney descendants #descendants

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therosiestofrubys · 2 years

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Root Flare command normal (F+HK) has been somewhat reworked, now being faster while the root itself will stop being active if Ivy is hit or (somehow) manages to block during it.

#MUGEN #Poison Ivy #Wonder Woman #DC #video post #Non Fightcade Originals

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lemonicedthi · 6 months

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thi traveled to taiwan and is now going to talk about thi travelling to taiwan

Hello Family and Friends,

I got back from Taiwan 2 days ago and it was so great!!! I spent 4 full days there. First, let's break it down.

🏍️Day 1: Kaohsiung -> Taitung

🏍️Day 2: Taitung

🏍️Day 3: Taitung

🏍️Day 4: Taitung -> Kaohsiung

🏍️Day 5: Kaohsiung -> HK

Per my track record, I didn't really plan for much, but don't be me because you might miss out on some stuff (-公- ;)!! Despite that, I'm very satisfied with my trip. (o´▽`o)

💚Shoutout to Ivy, my beautiful Labor Summer friend, for taking me around and hosting me. I have never heard of Taitung or would have considered exploring Southeast Taiwan if not for her. Ivy, I had the most amazing time and I hope you have a great year in Taitung!💚

(/^-^(^ ^*)/ ♡

I will do 2 separate posts about my time in both cities, so check out the Taiwan Section in my blawg!! There's more down here btw ↓↓↓

In the meantime, let's go to a segment I like to call !!!!Things Thi learned and did in Taiwan!!!!

🍅 Google translate carried this trip. I know like 0 mandarin, and I barely got away with it. I think this was pretty bad because I was going to a more rural area of Taiwan too, so I highly recommend learning at least some mandarin. Also, they read traditional chinese (like HK), so when you translate, use that! My most used words were "Nǐ hǎo", "Xièxiè", and "Due". (╥_╥)

🍅 I took a risk and only converted $100 USD, and dude, Taiwan is SO CHEAP!!! Paired with my visa, I had more than enough cash left over. It was 50/50 whether places took my visa or cash, but the places I used my visa the most were: train stations, Familymart/7-eleven, and souvenir shops. For cash, it was mostly restaurants, food stalls, lightrail and ferries, and smaller shops.

🍅 Ivy warned me about this, but when I was in Taitung, you really couldn't do much without a scooter to get around. If you plan to travel to cities like Taitung, consider your transportation options for sure. Shoutout to Ivy and Annika for taking me around on your scooters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (人ゝω・）

#thi-in-taiwan

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rfoxlord · 1 year

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I posted 242 times in 2022

That's 242 more posts than 2021!

21 posts created (9%)

221 posts reblogged (91%)

Blogs I reblogged the most:

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I tagged 20 of my posts in 2022

#metal gear rising - 5 posts

#metal gear raiden - 4 posts

#hollow knight - 3 posts

#raiden metal gear - 3 posts

#batman - 2 posts

#metal gear - 2 posts

#but some people are really upset with me that i do like eatin avocado with cheese - 1 post

#hk quirrel - 1 post

#mgr is so cool - 1 post

#mgs4 - 1 post

Longest Tag: 81 characters

#but some people are really upset with me that i do like eatin avocado with cheese

My Top Posts in 2022:

I'm playing mgr ReVengence and fighting Sam right now.

after a while of playing I finally beat him, press the blade mode button to start the animation of killing him, and SOMEHOW my finger slips off the trigger and i get out of blade mode.

and then he immediately kicks me before I have a chance to react to what just happened and instantly kills me

I'm not crying you are

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what if, batman couldn't stop the joker from killing the mayor or something for like the fifth time. Gotham is really angry with him, so they put him in the news (as batman of course). and he's so done with them wanting to put him in prison every other week so he says that for the next week, he won't fight crime at all.

the riddler hears this, and calls all of the villains of Gotham for a meeting. Edward explains to them, that if they don't do any crime in this week there will be no more batman. and everyone trusts him, cause it's the riddler he's usually a genius. so everyone keeps their goons from doing any crime that week.

but joker doesn't want bats to stop fighting him, that's what he lives for. so he makes his main assistant, who is just some guy, try and make crimes all week that seems like the other villains did them.

so joker's assistant steals the recipe for scarecrow's gas, tries to wreak a place to look like bane was there, steals a rare plant from a greenhouse to blame poison ivy, and robs a casino leaving only half the money behind to blame two face.

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Quirrel

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this line is so funny I love mgr

24 notes - Posted December 5, 2022

My #1 post of 2022

im not wrong

38 notes - Posted November 2, 2022

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