#god y'all should see our excel doc we have...so much in there

[vveakfish]

when Star and i started working on Dancing (With Another Man) there were two things we wanted to dig into

bird flash but messy

the world building of A/B/O

if you wanna see the mess go read the fic for yourself ;]

but right now i wanna talk about a little world building rabbit hole i fell down the other night @ 2am while fighting sleep.

ramblings about the genetic inheritance of dynamics below the cut

i really went into the weeds with this one y'all. I've always been interested in genetics and if i hadn't been dead set on going to art school i might have been a bio major instead. so this was definitely more than a little self indulgent on my part.

the main question i had was how are dynamics passed from parents to offspring. i broke that very vague question down into two more specific ones:

could a child only have one of the dynamics of their parents, or were the genetics more complicated than that

if a child COULD have a dynamic that their parents didn't have, how would that work.

so at first i was kind of just writing down my thoughts based on what i remembered of genetics (i haven't taken a bio class since sophomore year of college so i was a little rusty)

what i came up with made sense to me but i didn't have the energy that night to actually research different modes of inheritance, or to figure out if what i had come up with was scientifically sound in any way.

The next day i decided to hunker down and read a whole bunch of articles trying to refresh my memory on the basics of genetics, and also looking into modes of inheritance other than complete dominance.

I knew from the beginning i didn't want any one designation to be the 'dominant' trait, or for another to be 'recessive.' i just wasn't sure exactly what mode of inheritance would make the most sense.

after a few days of hashing out the science of it (and info-dumping to Star about my findings in our discord) i figured out a system that i liked, plus it made at least some sort of scientific sense.

this is, afterall, for an omegaverse fic so i wasn't going to break my back trying to make this work. BUT its going to come into play later in the story. So i wanted it to have SOME sort of logic behind it.

So there is one gene that determines a persons Dynamic. This gene has a total of 5 alleles and a persons dynamic is a result of which two out of those 5 markers they were born with. These alleles interact with each other using the incomplete dominance mode of inheritance.

the alleles are as follows

[A]: strong presentation of Alpha traits

[a]: weak presentation of Alpha traits

[O]: strong presentation of Omega traits

[o]: weak presentation of Omega traits

[x]: no presentation of dynamic traits [recessive]

[x] is the lack of a dynamic marker, so it mirrors what ever other dynamic marker it is paired with

now these alleles can be combined in a total of 13 distinct genotypes, 12 of which result in one of the three designations, and one where an individual has no designation at all.

Alpha/Omega Genotypes:

[AA] / [Ax] | [OO] / [Ox]

an individual with these genotypes displays a strong presentation of Dynamic traits. While this could affect their physical build, what its really referring to is how the body produces hormones and pheromones. People with these genotypes produce hormones and pheromones in excess. This could cause things such as a strong scent, intense cycles, and aggressive tendencies in Alphas. In Omegas this could mean being more prone to submission or falling into the Omega headspace more readily.

[Aa] / [Oo]

an individual with these genotypes would be considered 'balanced' . They produce dynamic hormones in 'normal' levels and outside of their cycles these hormones would not impact their daily lives.

[aa] / [ax] | [oo] / [ox]

these genotypes indicate a weak presentation of dynamic traits. these individuals would produce hormones and pheromones at a deficit, and therefore would probably have a weaker scent, and milder cycles. They might also need to use CIDs to jump start their cycles if their body won't do it for them

Betas are the result of a person possessing the genetic markers for both Alpha and Omega. therefore there is no way for a Beta to possess the [x] marker

Beta Genotypes:

[AO]

A Beta with this genotype would be balanced, in that they produce equal amounts of both Alpha and Omega hormones. Not enough for them to experience either cycle, but someone with this genotype could probably make the noises of either dynamic pretty convincingly.

[Ao] / [Oa]

a Beta with these genotypes would produce more of hormones of one dynamic than the other. This could cause increased aggression (Ao) or a tendency toward submission (Oa) and psuedo-cycles. This is often treated using suppressants or inducers to bring the hormone level back to equilibrium.

[ao]

a Beta with this genotype barely produces dynamic hormones at all. Their scent would most likely be weak, and they probably would have a hard time convincingly making the noises of either of the other two designations. But since they don't cycle there is no reason to 'treat' this condition.

and finally we arrive at [xx]

the most common examples of someone being [xx] would be Atlanteans and Amazonians. Both of those groups broke off from humanity before the rest of the population developed the genetic markers that give a person their designation.

But humans can also have the [xx] genotype, it is just extremely rare (about 8% of the worlds population has this combination, though most of that 8% is made up of Amazonians and Atlanteans).

So with the info dump out of the way, here are some examples (using characters from d(wam)) of how dynamics are inherited.

Dick

Dicks parents were both Omegas, which did mean dick was guaranteed to be an omega, but he does have an entirely different genotype than either of his parents Mary Grayson was, [OX] while John was [Oo]. meaning dick could have been [OO], [Oo], [Ox], or [ox]. He is [OO] and im sure if you have been reading the story this will come as no surprise to you.

Wally

wally is an interesting case. Rudy West is [xx], and Mary West is [AO]. Their family functions more as a typical family unit than a pack seeing as Rudy doesnt have a dynamic a all. However, often people who are born [xx] are just lumped in as a Beta since physically there is not much of a difference between someone with no designation and a Beta. Because of this Wally could Only be an Alpha [Ax] or an omega [Ox]. As im sure you've guessed Wally has the [Ax] allele combination.

Bruce

Both Martha and Thomas wayne were Betas, [AO], and [ao] respectively. This means Bruce had a chance to be an Alpha [Aa], Omega [Oo], or Beta [Ao] [Oa]. Bruce ended up with the [Ao] combo. For any of our readers who have been wondering "whats Bruce's deal?" this might give you just a bit of context.

#d(wam) #wik(ywm) #world building #ABO #omegaverse #𓆟 #fishfic #have a spent maybe too much time thinking about this? yes #but i promise theres a real actual reason for it #star and i literally went through like ten different possible systems for how this could work before settling on this one #but i think it makes the most sense & is as simple as we could make it for the part it plays in the fic #ok ok back to writing thx for reading #god y'all should see our excel doc we have...so much in there

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