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#friend b: actually i can't until later and like I'd rather go to OTHER PLACE instead but what do yall say
phantaloon · 10 months
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ik yall most be thinking that I complain too much about my friend and we should just stop being friends at this point but
the thing is
i really do love her
she just drives me fucking insane with some of her ways
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spije · 2 years
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I love From A Place Of Love so much and here's why.
Ok so, for starters, I'm plural. I am NOT the host. And implicitly or explicitly, to others that means you're not a person. You're not autonomous. You're more a parasite, if anything at all. And even being someone I'd rather people had hated me for other reasons, something about that experience is extremely disturbing? In that kind of isolation, the people you're stuck with are kind of all you have, they can't help you, you can't help yourself--and well, to put it bluntly, even the kindest advice you get outside of one or two friends tells you to commit yourself to the system the same way one would commit themselves to the dirt.
Everything kind of leaks into your head, and everything else kind of leaks out.
You become the nothing you were taught to aspire to be. Not in the way you'd expect. You're not sure how you got there, mainly because you can't think at all. Looking back on it later, you'd see a clear path from point A to point B. You had fully intended to go there. But why?
Why had you ever thought this was something to want.
But you know that too. Well, you would later.
Until then, you're lost in love as service.
But eventually you start to realize that
This isn't
Something to aspire to.
The pursuit of a life purely of service
Isn't helping anyone.
I forgot to factor in myself.
--BAM. This song. This FREAKING SONG. The first time I had gotten any sympathy from any stranger--the first time I had heard of my situation portrayed as a bad thing at all--From a Place of Love.
Love ISN'T self sacrifice Love ISN'T service
Nobody can tell you what love is supposed to be. Nobody can tell you what your life is supposed to be. Nobody can tell you who you are, what you are. And the idea that someone could ever be in the kind of situation you were in is something that some people out there seriously thought was scary enough to put in a horror game. Finally.
From a Place of Love as a dissection of the horrors of amatonormativity, or
of the pressure to destroy yourself in the name of love
In any form that might take. INCLUDING THE KIND I EXPERIENCED...
It's also just a really nice song and I like to listen to it.
HOWEVER, as a consequence of the fact that this song was not made with plural people in mind, it could potentially be read as very fusion-negative. Would tomerry have been a neutral or positive concept, had they not been pressured into it? That's not considered at all. I'm leaving that discussion up to the people who've actually experienced it--as intense as my experience with love as service was, it was not fusion. Or really anything close to it. I learned from that that I'm not as malleable as I'd think--but it really works differently in every system, and even between individuals.
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bobasheebaby · 4 years
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100 Roseanne Prompts
I usually try to stick to quotes that can work for everyone but some of these were too good to skip. Break at 15 like always. Request a show
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1 “Hey, all our lives suck.” — Roseanne
2 “Here's why you can't trust your kids 'cause they're stupid. That's why we don't give 'em cars or booze.” — Roseanne
3 “Etsy is like a yard sale except online because nobody can afford a yard anymore.” — Darlene
4 “All of your relatives died from alcoholism. The ones that didn't drink were killed by the ones who did.” — Roseanne
5 “Did all of your children's deliveries go according to your birth plan?” “Um, they found their way out, if that's what you mean.” — Andrea & Roseanne
6 “You gotta pick your fights in life.” — Roseanne
7 “Okay, he doesn't have to wear pants, but he's gotta wear underwear.” — Dan
8 “It is not my fault that I just happen to be a charismatic person who's always right about everything.” — Roseanne
9 “Why are you picking on me? What, did I take the last doughnut, or something?” — Darlene
10 [Person B is embarrassed after walking in on Person C nursing her baby] “Oh, now, NAME. It's not like you've never seen breasts before.” “NAME’s my friend. As far as I'm concerned, she has no breasts... It works for me, okay?” — Roseanne & Dan
11 “The car has heated seats? Thank God, I thought I was going through the change.” — Roseanne
12 [stoned and laying the bathtub] “Is this the sink? Am I shrinking?” — Jackie
13 “In this house, I'm in charge and father knows squat.” — Roseanne
14 “What's up? I smell fear. I love that smell! But what's up?” — Roseanne
15 “Do you have anything sharp I can stick in my eye?” — Dan
16 “You are really, really gettin' on my nerves today, man! I mean more than usual!” — Dan
17 “Well, you think you can stop me from seeing NAME, huh?” “I think I can stop you from seeing tomorrow.” — Mark & Dan
18 “You were always trying to push us apart. You were always putting me down!” — Mark Healey
19 “My marriage is not based on me listening!” — Roseanne
20 “Why don't you just kiss my butt?” “Well, haul it on over here, Jumbo!” — Becky & Darlene
21 “You are just evil!” — Jackie
22 “Oh good, go for the guilt. You better take a looong, hard look at yourself, NAME, 'cause if you are this obsessed with my life, there is obviously something missing from yours.” “Just figure that out?” — Jackie & Roseanne
23 “I thought you were just gonna go over there and scare him/her?” “Well, it started out that way.” — Roseanne & Dan
24 “Being your own boss isn't that great of a deal. Last week I sexually harassed myself.” — Dan
25 “Hell, even I don't hate her that much.” — Dan
26 “Oh my gosh, I'm so nervous.” “Just don't shoot any milk out of you nose, and you'll be fine.” — Becky & Roseanne
27 “Please, NAME, I don't want you to help me, I just want you to leave me alone ... Please.” — Darlene
28 “Don’t toy with me, NAME.” — Roseanne
29 “We, have had a fight, and we're not speaking to each other.” “Oh, well, what was the fight about? Maybe I can take a side.” — Roseanne & Jackie
30 “He/She wanted to do something; I didn't feel like it.” “Yeah, well, so what are you going to do?” “Nothing.” “That's what you did last weekend!” “Yeah, well I'm not finished.” — Darlene & Roseanne
31 “No, NAME always was the bad influence.” — Roseanne
32 “Talking - it's like yelling, only not as loud.” — Roseanne
33 “Yeah, but you know what they say, NAME. They say, ah, when you really love something you should, you know, make it go away or get rid of it, or whatever.” — Roseanne
34 “You're acting like a crazed psychopath.” [snorts] “Well the voices in my head disagree.” — Dan & Roseanne
35 [on getting married] “I always thought it was the smartest thing I ever did. You obviously don't agree.” “No, I do agree with you, it was the smartest thing you ever did, but we're talking about me now!” — Dan & Roseanne
36 [Person A and Person B bury the hatchet] “So, I guess we've finally approached the end of Bitch-Fest YEAR.” “Oh what a time we had!” — Roseanne & Darlene
37 “You can't tell NAME what to do. She's a big girl!” [snarls] “Compared to who?” — David & Roseanne
38 “What kind of list is he/she making? Not that it's any of my business.” “A hit list.” — Beverly & Dan
39 [feeling for pulse] “I think he’s/she's dead.” [steps back] “Check again.” “I know how to count to zero.” — Roseanne & Dan
40 “What was the second thing you noticed about me?” — Roseanne
41 “Aw, get off the sympathy wagon, NAME; there were plenty of guys/girls standing in line for you to treat 'em like dirt. I was just the lucky one.” — Dan
42 “You are rotten rotten kids, and I can't even believe I'm related to you two!” — Jackie Harris
43 “You'll just do something stupid that you're going to regret later.” — Roseanne
44 “I'm your husband/wife. That's my right.” — Dan
45 [finds present] “You're not going to open it, are you? It's two days away.” “Yea! Well I need time to practice pretending like I like it.” [pulls something ugly from the box] “Oh man, I should'a opened it a week ago.” — Jackie & Roseanne
46 “Oh, this is going to be soooo great!” — Darlene
47 “What's the catch?” “No catch, can't we do something nice?” “I don't know, you never have.” — Roseanne & Becky
48 “Oh my God. You're kidding me!” — Roseanne
49 “Save your breath, NAME, you're not gonna talk me into dropping this lawsuit.” “Well, maybe I can talk you into begging for your life.” — Fred & Roseanne
50 “I'm way more powerful than any law!” — Roseanne
51 “Well NAME, I guess you're just not the man/woman I thought you were ... and I wasn't too happy with that one!” — Roseanne
52 “We should've known, NAME, men stick together no matter how butt headed their argument is.” — Becky
53 [about Person b and person c’s sex life] “You're kidding? You guys have a night?” “Yes, we have a night. It's not only Wednesday, but it's always Wednesday.” You have a time too?” “Yeah. Twenty minutes, or until he gets a cramp.” “Well, you should make him wait half-an-hour after he eats.” — Jackie & Roseanne
54 “Oh, c'mon. Just because you guys aren't having "Wednesday", doesn't mean he’s/she's out ... "Wednesday-ing" somebody else.” — Jackie
55 “What's the matter with you, boy/girl? Can't keep your pants on?” — Dan
56 “Damn women! Who the hell do they think they are!” “We are sugar and spice, and everything nice. So bite me!” — Dan & Roseanne
57 “Have you met NAME?” — Roseanne
58 “Gee, I'd love to NAME, but I'd rather stay home and drill some screws into my toes.” — Darlene
59 “Remember one thing, NAME, I'm your worst nightmare!” — Jackie
60 “You always say how you want better things for us.” “Ah, yea, but I was talking about me and your Dad. You kids already got it too good.” — Becky & Roseanne
61 “You are a controlling bitch!” — Dan
62 “Boy I'll tell you, I wish I had never m - -“ “What? Say it.” “Nothin'.” “Well that makes two of us.“ — Dan & Roseanne
63 “Ooohhh, we all know what this is about, don't we? You're just jealous because I've made something of myself.” “Yeah, an ass ... And where do you get that hoity-toity accent anyway? You're from PLACE!” — Ronnie & Roseanne
64 “I can't believe that I wasted TIME hating you for something as stupid as a wedding, when there's a very good reason to hate you. You're a bitch!” [gasps] “I'm a bitch? Hah! I bow to the queen of all bitches.” — Roseanne & Ronnie
65 “Look me in the eye and tell me it was an accident. And remember ... I can tell when you're lying.” “It was an accident ... could you tell?” — Roseanne & DJ
66 “I could go for something to eat.” “Yeah? Well, then go.” [motions toward the door] — Arnie & Roseanne
67 “You're going to flunk marriage if you can't pass the oral ... oh my God ...” “We know too much, we know too much.” — Dan & Fred
68 “NAME, where'd you get those jelly beans?” “From the bin at store.” “NAME, I told you, you gotta finish eating them while you're in the store, 'else it's stealing!” — Roseanne & DJ
69 “I never thought I would say this ... I'm too depressed to drink.” — Dan
70 “Let's just cut the crap, okay. You're talking to NAME’s mother here, the mother of all mothers and she is majorly mad.” — Roseanne
71 “NAME, NAME, NAME. I have raised two of the best damn liars in the free world. Don't embarrass yourself.” — Roseanne
72 “This is for the pain.” “Owwww. Make it a double.” — Nurse & Jackie
73 “I hate to see you laying here in pain like this.” “Well actually, ever since he/she gave me that shot, I'm feelin' kinda neat.” — Gary & Jackie
74 “I want someone who will love me and support me no matter what. Just like NAME does for you.” “Are you insane! You know how many years I had to put into NAME? You think he/she came out of a box like that!” — Jackie & Roseanne
75 “What do you think your punishment oughta be?” “What do you mean?” “NAME told me everything.” “That little rat.” “But I told him/her I wasn't going to do anything until I get your side of the story.” “Well first we, wait a minute, uh, uh --“ “You're getting good.” — Roseanne & Becky
76 “I worked it out with NAME, he’s/she's gonna stay here and babysit and I'm gonna go out.” “Why would he/she do that?” “I have dirt on him/her. “ “What kind of dirt?” “Now if I told you, I'd have to stay home.” [person a leaves] — Darlene & Roseanne
77 [Person A is acting like a hunchback] “I brought the baggage master, where do you wish me to put it?” “Just put it anywhere Igor.” “Maybe later you and me.” “We'll see.” You're so kind.” [ kisses hand] — Dan & Roseanne
78 [about child’s behavior] “NAME you did stuff like that when you were NAME’s age right?” “No, the boy's odd.” — Roseanne & Dan
79 [offering to the family] “Hey, I got one more pancake.” “I want French toast!” “Well, you better move to Europe.” — Roseanne & DJ
80 [Person A, angry, grabs keys and leaves the house] “Oh God. This is really bad.” “Yeah, I know.” “Oh no. I mean, this is really bad. I'm parked behind him/her.” — Jackie & Dan
81 “Yeah, I do. And we're not going to put him/her through that again, are we?” — Dan
82 [comes in through the front door] “NAME, you all ready to go?” [whining] “I don't wa-haant to-o-o-o! I feel like a used piece of gum that somebody stuck under the table, just waiting for the excitement of drying up and hitting the floor.” — Jackie & Roseanne
83 “You HAVE to take this job ... you're the only one that applied!” — Marsha
84 [grabs the syrup bottle and comes up behind PERSON B] “Remember me, NAME?” [look of terror] “Not Mrs. Butterworth ... please not Mrs. Butterworth.” “Remember how your brother/sister NAME told you how I came to life at night in the cupboard? Remember how I would chase you around even though I have no legs? Well I'm back and I just want one more sticky kiss!” [PERSON B screams] — Roseanne & Jackie
85 “I hope I see you later, I mean, a lot later.” — Roseanne
86 [after the birth] “I didn't call you any horrible names back there, did I?” “No more than usual.” — Roseanne & Dan
87 [about kid dressed as a lawyer] “That's the scariest costume all night.” — Roseanne
88 [going through the candy bowl] “This is all sugar in here.” “Not true, there're chemicals too.” — David & Roseanne
89 “You should be giving children the stuff their bodies need.” [gets fruit from the kitchen] “What the hell is that?” “Wait a minute, honey, I've seen this before, it's food that doesn't come in a wrapper.” “That's unsanitary.” — David, Roseanne & Dan
90 “Did you see the Great Pumpkin last night?” “No, NAME wore pajamas.” — Jackie & Roseanne
91 [discussing Person C] “She's rude and selfish.” “I know, but, inside she's just a ... scared little girl.” Yeah, and I know what's scaring her, the raging bitch on the outside.” — Dan & Roseanne
92 “I'll be back later to give you your present.” “Why can't I just open it now?” “I haven't bought it yet.” — Jackie & Roseanne
93 “And don't you ever feed my dog!” “If I get drunk enough, I'll fight your dog!” — Roseanne
94 “I really don't think it's wise for anyone in this family to be giving away livers.” — Beverly
95 “Say 'I'm not taking any crap from anyone'.” “I am ...” “Stop! It's not 'I am', it's 'I'm'.” “I'm not taking any... do I have to say the C word?” “Yes you do, NAME, because that's the most important word.” “I'm not taking any crap from anyone.” “That was good but are you serving tea, NAME? Get mad and say it.” [louder] “I'm not taking any crap from anyone!” “Good, now personalize it, make it your own.” [louder] “I'm not taking any damn crap from anyone!” — Roseanne & Doris
96 “Hey, where's my 'My other mug is a shot glass' mug?” — Roseanne
97 “Why are you gettin' so mad at me?” “Because you are making me defend NAME.” — Becky & Roseanne
98 “I am not sexist. I'm much too frightened of women to be sexist.” — David
99 “Get me a beer.” “Get it yourself, slob!” — Mark & Darlene
100 “I can't believe you're jealous over this.” “Why not? It's very typical of me.”
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omglr · 5 years
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You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
You both like pro-choice, pro-life, feminism, and feminist.
Stranger: hey
You: hi
You: pro choice?
Stranger: how are you?
Stranger: nope
You: i am good, and pro-choice
Stranger: glad to hear that you're good
You: great
Stranger: feminist too I take it?
You: sure, you?
Stranger: nope
You: yeah, makes sense i suppose
You: you a dude?
Stranger: yes and you?
You: nope, i am a woman
Stranger: alright
Stranger: what's your thoughts on sterlization?
You: it up to the person being sterilized if they wanna do it
Stranger: do you think it should be more freely accessable?
You: sire
You: sure
Stranger: so that women can't be turned down "because you might regret it later on"
You: yeah, that's fair
Stranger: well, least we have something we agree on
You: i mean, getting your tubes tied is reversable but not 100% success rates
You: IUDs work well too, but not in all women
Stranger: what about removing ovaries?
You: if they want them removed, but it provides hormones to the body as far as i understand
You: so with informed consent sure
You: i think there should be better birth control messures for men too
You: like vascectomies are easy to preform but harder to reverse
You: it would be cool if they could just clamp off the tub rather than sever it
You: or something,
Stranger: I mean, doing that is the same as removal of the ovaries...isn't just a means to produce sperm
You: a vasectomy is different than an orchiectomy
Stranger: it still leads to a reduction of hormone production
You: with a vasectomy they just cut the tube provide sperm from the balls to the vas deferins
You: testosterone still goes to your blood
Stranger: less is produced though
You: and your balls are still producing it
You: i don't think that is true, but idk for sure
Stranger: it does
You: i'm gonna look it up
You: "Myth: Testosterone Levels Will Decrease - True, the testicle makes both sperm and testosterone. The difference is, the testicle makes testosterone and transports it through the bloodstream, not the vas deferens. Testosterone levels don't go down as a result of vasectomy"
You: this is a confusing answer google
You: https://www.verywellhealth.com/myths-about-vasectomy-3300169
You: that's better for full context
You: yeah, that actually thats so weird, in the article its like "its a myth that testosterone ddecreases. True, that this sencence isn't dependent on the last sentence"
You: anyway, its cool I had a vasectomy when i was 24, and at 27 started getting my testosterone rates checked out and they were very high
You: it took a lot of spironalactone to get it close to zero
You: and eventually an orchiectomy solved it for good
Stranger: ??
You: but yeah, I'm a transsexual
You: there should be birth control meassures for cis guys too
You: ones that are reversable or short term (6 months)
Stranger: it is being researched into, the issue is most of the results come back with dangerous side effects that make it unusable
Stranger: or at the very least, not worth while
You: yeah, its hard to read that and be like... have people not heard of the side effects of women's birth control?
You: it can be pretty rough on them
You: but, idk, i hope they figure something out
Stranger: yea...and the side effects that are being found for male birth control are A. worse B. permanent
Stranger: we've still got protection and birth control, which I'm not against
Stranger: I'm only against termination of a infant because of inconvenience
You: yeah its cool, getting abortions sucks for sure
Stranger: abortions aren't birth control, they're birth terminations
You: its not as harsh as killing a toddler
Stranger: doesn't mean it's not harsh
You: yeah, but also meh
Stranger: killing a rapist is not as harsh as killing a shop lifter...it's still harsh
Stranger: and no, I'm not saying the rapist should not be punished
You: i think people who get raped should be able to kill their rapist
Stranger: I think people who get raped should be able to squeeze every penny from the rapist and his family for the damages he's done
You: yeah thats cool too
You: but rapists have a hard time getting convicted of anything
You: the world is wild
Stranger: innocent until proven guilty
Stranger: the world is wild, the world is undfair
Stranger: unfair*
You: yeah, and women are sluts until proven otherwise too
Stranger: no
Stranger: they're innocent until proven guilty...same rules apply
Stranger: that's what happens when you let mob rule win
You: eh... maybe its just a misunderstanding, who wouldn't want to fuck the football guy
You: if it was so bad why did you wait to tell anyone?
You: oh, when you went to the police they laughed at you?
You: etc.
You: etc.
Stranger: nice straw men
You: that shit happens all the time though
Stranger: you know what also happens?
Stranger: people lying about being raped to "take revenge"
You: eh, i mean dudes like to say that happens a lot , but i've never heard of it
Stranger: do I need to get reports up of it happening?
You: i mean its annecdotal, but i've been a live for a long time, and a lot of my friends have been raped, but i really don't think anyone made it up, and none of the rapists were ever really held accountable either
You: so, not sure how it works as a revenge scheme
Stranger: how old are you?
You: 35
Stranger: and how many places do you exist in one time?
You: i am legion
You: yeah man anyway i said it was annecdotal
Stranger: exactly...except I'm not denying that your annecdotal stuff doesn't exist...only that you were setting up strawmen to try and win your argument
Stranger: you on the otherhand are denying it exists
You: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/06/less-than-percent-rapes-lead-felony-convictions-least-percent-victims-face-emotional-physical-consequences/?utm_term=.d9b7ee3fd931
You: i don't know, does this happen to your friends? are any of the dudes getting called rapists?
You: "but aren't"
Stranger: if you must know...yes, one of my friends was falsely accused...how do I know it was false...the time she said it was happening, we were at his house
You: lucky he has an alibi
Stranger: yes he was
You: what were the concequences of that
Stranger: he had to leave town
You: that sucks
You: how old was he?
Stranger: 19 at the time
You: and the record was never set straight?
Stranger: all he had was mine and his word against hers
Stranger: how are you going to set something straight without evidence for or against
You: why do you think she wanted revenge?
Stranger: he'd "neglected her" having been spending more time with me than her the past couple of months
You: and how are they both doing now?
Stranger: I avoid her at every possible turn, I'd lost contact with him not too long after he left
You: welp, that sucks
You: i guess the FBI says that about 2% of rape / sex charges are determined to be false
Stranger has disconnected.
Me still typing anyway: and that's the same percentage as other felonies....
WEBSITE quote i was looking at: Only about 2% of all rape and related sex charges are determined to be false, the same percentage as for other felonies (FBI). So while they do happen, and they are very problematic when they do, people claim that allegations are false far more frequently than they are and far more frequently than for other crimes. Put another way, we are much more likely to disbelieve a woman if she says she was raped than if she says she was robbed, but for no good reason.
On a related note, only about 40% of rapes are ever reported to the police, and this is partly because victims know that if their claim becomes public, their every behavior will be scrutinized, they will be shamed for their sexual history, and they will be labeled as lunatic, psychotic, paranoid, and manipulative. Just because someone does not report their crime does not mean it did not happen. Furthermore, only one in two claims lead to prosecution, so if the DA decides not to prosecute, that says nothing about whether or not it happened. (http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates)
Quote from: https://web.stanford.edu/group/maan/cgi-bin/?page_id=297
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