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tavtiers · 3 months
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A hypothetical god tier for Loghain Mac Tir from Dragon Age: the Prince of Blood.
A Prince of Blood is among those who alter paths, drive, and passion. They are motivated by themselves to destroy connection. (x) The Prince of Blood wants to have control over things and has a strong sense of responsibility. (x) They are the True Promised, defined by control and connection. (x) Their opposite is the Bard of Breath. Their inverse is the Sylph of Breath. The Prince of Blood would quest on a planet similar to the Land of Breath and Blood, reigned over by Hera (Goddess of Marriage Vows) or Prometheus (Deliverer of Civilization). They would rise to ascension on the wings of mosquitoes. (x)(x)(x)
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the-dragon-folk · 11 months
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what I can appreciate about The Stolen Throne is everyone, even the women, were just straight up thinking with their dicks the entire time
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nullphysics · 1 year
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A smattering of other dragon age draws
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pumpkincalico · 1 year
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Maric, rowan and loghain have SUCH  chokehold on me it isnt funny
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Loghain (The Stolen Throne)
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anneapocalypse · 1 year
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The Loghain Mac Tir we meet in Origins is a man deeply invested in Ferelden's freedom and independence, but the Loghain we meet in The Stolen Throne is a young man who wants nothing to do with any war or revolution, who's simply trying to survive under the occupation along with what family he has left. Maric Theirin blunders his way into Loghain's life and he's knocked into the path of history unwillingly. Everything that happens to him after that is because of Maric. His father dies because of Maric. His friends are killed because of Maric. He leaves his old life behind because of Maric. He can't be with the woman he loves because of Maric. And he stays at Maric's side, year after year, because what other life does he have? He lost everything because of Maric and everything he has now is also because of Maric.
The Loghain we meet in Origins is a man with 30 years of sunk cost in the Theirin family. What will he lose for the sake of Maric's son? At what point will he look at another blundering young golden-haired fool deciding the fate of a nation without the experience or wisdom to back it up, and wonder what his life would have been like if he had just let the first fool die? At what point does Loghain acknowledge, deep down, what he has lost for the Theirins, and decide that it's time to cut his losses?
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veshialles · 9 months
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damn kind of obsessed with the fact that The Warden and Loghain basically had the same start to their heroes journeys
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notebooks-and-laptops · 3 months
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I think that Bioware should have let me write The Stolen Throne based on a pitch by David Gaider because I think I would have done a better job of it than he did
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CONFESSION:
I have all the DA books. How many have I read? None, because I'm horribly lazy. I want to read them, but I got about 15 pages into the Stolen Throne and lost interest because of the way it is written. Maybe it gets better. This was years ago. I wish I wasn't so lazy and easily bored. Maybe fiery young Loghain will be the draw that brings me back, hmm...
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v-arbellanaris · 2 years
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i dont think im done talking abt this, actually. i'm going to try and explain how stupid this whole thing is because there's always SOMEONE going on about how if it wasn't for the circles, and the parallels of the circles to real-life atrocities, "the mage-templar debate" would be a two-sided issue.
actually, it's not.
the "mage-templar debate" is not an issue of ethics even before addressing the conditions of the circle, because you have other options.
the basic premise of the argument is "mages are inherently a danger to themselves and everyone around them. is locking them up to reduce the harm they pose to the general population the correct ethical decision?" but the entire concept is already bullshit even before you address the conditions of the circle, which is where most people claim the civil rights movement comparisons come from.
because. CANONICALLY. you have other options. you have options within the context of the games to reduce the "threat" or "danger" of magic. there's no cases of mass abominations in rivain. there's no cases of mass abominations (as we know understand & abominations anyway) amongst the avvar. there's no cases of mass abominations in tevinter. from the get-go the idea that "mages have to be locked up for their and everyone's safety" is already bullshit, before you even touch the issue of the circles. even before you get to the conditions of the circle, the very existence of mages in rivain and nevarra and the avvar and tevinter already renders the argument null and void.
from it's very inception, the entire premise -- mages are inherently a danger to themselves and everyone around them -- is proven to be a belief, not a fact.
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freesidexjunkie · 5 months
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thoughts I have starting The Stolen Throne with a grumpy Loghain and an awkward Maric (as a poll bc I'm on mobile and I guess I hit a button)
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obiroguewan · 1 year
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Dragon Age Origins - out of context 😏✨
You didn't like this Wilhelm, I take it.
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vulpixhoney · 5 months
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I'm replaying DA:O after reading The Stolen Throne, and it's somehow made me more and less sympathetic to Loghain.
Like I understand now where he's coming from, Cailan was not battle smart, like at all and would've gotten them all killed. And Loghain has serious trauma with Orlais. But he took so many wrong steps because of his paranoia. Like my man literally commits treason because Cailan wanted to seek (much needed) aid from Orlais. It would be one thing if he just retreated from the battle and incidentally left Cailan to die, but it wasn't just that. He purposefully betrays Cailan so that he dies in the field, lies to the country and says that the Grey Wardens murdered him, and then tries to usurp the crown, all while denying the blight that he personally witnessed. Like he saw the army. And he does all this after going through everything he did with Maric to secure his family's crown. Just kills his son and takes his crown
and also participates in the slave trade
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pumpkincalico · 1 year
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Maric just shrugging off a cryptic warning Flemeth gave him about a man he just met not 3 days ago will never not be funny-
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I just finished The Stolen Throne and I’m a mess
Loghain is such a great character and Rowan deserves better, Maric deserves slap. I wan’t them to be happy but also knew what’s coming from the game. So many emotions... considering replaying Origins with different choices, help
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anneapocalypse · 11 months
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Anyway here's the Guerrin timeline as best I can piece it together, if it's useful to anyone!
Updated 7/14/23 with corrections & additions.
~8:84 Blessed - Eamon is born. (The Calling - He's 15 at the time of the Battle of West Hill, which occurred in 8:99 Blessed.)
8:99 Blessed - The Battle of West Hill. Arl Rendorn Guerrin, Eamon's father, is killed in action. Maric Theirin is presumed dead but reappears in Gwaren, which is then taken by the rebels. The Battle of River Dane deals a decisive defeat to the Orlesian forces, though the conflict is not completely over. It will take several more years to completely drive out the occupying lords. However, Emperor Florian officially withdraws support for King Meghren.
9:02 Dragon - Eamon, 18, returns to Redcliffe to claim his place as arl, but find it still under Orlesian control, and works with the rebel forces to reclaim it. Isolde, the daughter of one of the Orlesian governors, is sympathetic to the rebels and becomes infatuated with Eamon, who does not return her feelings; nevertheless, she feeds information to the rebels, and chooses to stay in Ferelden after her family is driven out. Isolde is four years younger than Eamon, making her 14 at the time. (WoT v.2 p. 102, 106)
9:02 Dragon - Maric kills the usurper King Meghren in a dual, officially ending the occupation and winning Ferelden's freedom. (There is a noted discrepancy in the dates between the epilogue of The Stolen Throne, and World of Thedas vol. 1, the latter of which puts the duel at 9:00 Dragon. Given other events, the later date seems more plausible.)
~9:08 Dragon - Six years after their initial meeting, Eamon (24) meets Isolde (20) again in Denerim. They quickly become involved and are married. (WoT v.2 p. 103)
9:10 - Alistair is born to Fiona and King Maric. His parents give him up to be raised at Redcliffe Castle, inventing a story about his mother being a human serving girl. (The Calling.)
~9:20 Dragon - Isolde becomes pregnant with Connor after difficulty conceiving. This causes rumors about Alistair (10) being Eamon's bastard to resurface, and Eamon sends him away to a monastery to spare his wife's feelings. Connor is born soon after.
~9:29 Dragon - Short of taking his vows as a templar, Alistair (19) is conscripted into the Grey Wardens. (WoT v.2 p.79)
~9:30 Dragon - Connor Guerrin (10) shows signs of magic. Isolde hires an apostate, Jowan, to tutor Connor in secret. Eamon (46) is poisoned by Jowan and falls ill. (Origins.)
~9:31 Dragon - Following the Blight, Eamon decides to stay in Denerim, serving as an advisor to the throne, eventually declaring his brother Teagan the new Arl of Redcliffe. (Origins, WoT v.2 p.104)
?:?? Dragon - (If Connor is dead) Rowan Guerrin is born to Isolde and Eamon. After a difficult birthing, Isolde dies. (Potential Origins Epilogue slide.)
?:?? Dragon - Rowan Guerrin shows signs of magic and is sent to the Circle, though her father continues to visit her. (Potential Origins Epilogue slide.)
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