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sherrymagic · 2 months
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underrated but very important moment from DFF ep10: TanNew promptly hiding behind Jin ready to use him as a human shield as soon as Fluke, the one holding the gun, says his name:
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10/10 man, what an unpologetic deranged iconic king i stan him with my life
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syrena-del-mar · 2 months
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"Aren't you sad that I'll go abroad for a very long time?" "No. Whether you're here or not, it doesn't make any difference." "I'm sorry for never being a good brother."
Dead Friend Forever (2023) || Episode 9
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glazecaramel · 2 months
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His smirk really captured me.
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Help 🏳🏳🏳
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crysta1ized · 2 months
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a theory on ep11’s preview
firstly, if you’ve guessed/ theorized that non was still alive, you get 10 points!
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if you also guessed that perth would help him (in that case, thanks to tee) you also get 10 points!
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knowing that tee helped non escape, was definitely a plot twist. he basically lives at his uncle’s mercy, is forced to work for him and has to follow every single one of his orders so his father doesn’t die. which is a pretty shitty situation!
we saw previously that he showed guilt after non got busted for the fake accounts instead of him, but to help him escape from that very uncle? you’ll never fail to surprise me, tee!
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after that, tee gives an envelope to non and tells him he’ll get him out of there.
now, what is in this envelope? my first thought was obviously money. but i also thought, what if it was a plane ticket? it’d be safer for non to get the hell out of bangkok (or even thailand) to be sure the uncle and his men could never get him. a one way flight, non leaving without looking back.
i think that with the help of perth, tee could’ve gathered enough money to pay a ticket. i mean, that would’ve benefited tee a whole lot too. non forever out of his hair, not causing any more problems. disappearing without a trace. his uncle thinking he got rid of the troublemaker.
but what happened to mr keng then?
firstly we have no idea of the extent of his injuries. we guessed that non’s were only bad enough to knock him out on the roof, but the uncle might as well have killed keng for good.
i mean, he was hit with a car, which is way worse than a few punches. in the best case scenario (for him, cause i want that bastard dead), he only got a few bruises, but the most logical one would be that his legs are broken, as well as a few ribs maybe (depending on how hard the car hit him).
if we assume he’s alive, like non (which i seriously doubt), i don’t think tee would’ve helped him at all. he’s already risking everything to save non, he wouldn’t try saving both, especially because keng doesn’t mean anything to him. he probably never even had a conversation with him.
so in my opinion, we won’t see the teacher ever again, unless he found another way to escape, such as being rescued by the police as his disappearance could’ve been noticed after some time.
now onto the fun part!
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white is seen entering the arcade place, where we’ve already seen non & phee meeting up and making out at.
which means we’ll finally get teewhite whole’s backstory!
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my depressing theory is that we’ll get a cute little montage of their love story, and they’ll show us how cute they are, with their little puppy love, opposites attract shit just to snatch it from us right after.
mark my words, they’ll make us love teewhite and after those little flashbacks with bright colors that distracted us for a moment, we’ll get back to our depressing and dark present.
4 possibilities after that:
best case scenario: while we get a contrast between the past and how in love they were and acted, nothing terrible happens. tee explains to the group what was revealed to the viewer in the flashbacks, that he ended up helping non and that he’s still alive. he righted his wrongs and while white is shaken up, he’s glad tee isn’t just a bully who guilt tripped a kid into money laundering, he did feel guilt and saved him from his uncle.
same as above, tee reveals everything to the group but white doesn’t forgive him. he feels betrayed and mad that tee hid that from him for so long. in white’s eyes, tee is no longer someone he can trust, or hide behind.
tee dies
white dies
while i believe those 2 last options can happen, i don’t think they’d happen at that moment. tee’s reveal scene will probably be at the beginning of the episode while the following one with phee & new may happen soon after, which is why those 2 options seem less likely to happen then.
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new is clearly urging phee on to shoot.
but how? in the last scene of ep10, fluke is the one who has it and he clearly doesn’t want to let it go. he let white out of his grasp and is now pointing it at tee.
but fluke is clearly out of it, and is the one suffering the most from hallucinations, which made him shoot top even though his only principle was clearly to never act, to keep his hands clean of anything that could prevent him of becoming a doctor. too late now!
someone could take advantage of his delirious state and while he’s distracted, take the gun from him, like white, who’s on the ground, kinda behind fluke and now out of his sight. which is when phee could take the gun, as he’s the unofficial new leader and appears trustworthy as he just exposed new.
but who is phee pointing the gun at?
i think it’s most likely fluke. he’s clearly losing his mind and the hallucinations are making him aggressive, like top. which is why they may have to kill him before he kills someone else.
phee clearly wants to make the right decision, surely wants to kill him or just hurt him because fluke is an active threat. but tan just wants to see them all gone! he clearly has nothing to lose left, now that phee exposed him, this is his last chance to avenge his brother.
alternative theory:
phee might be pointing the gun at someone else.
according to how tee’s revelation ends, especially how non’s story ends, something might happen after that.
phee wouldn’t be pointing the gun at someone who didn’t deserve it, who wasn’t a threat to the group.
so why would it be tee? in my opinion, non escaped the country, end of story. but maybe something happened to him just before he could get out. then new would get mad at tee, blaming him. tee fights him. then he would represent a threat. or maybe the hallucinations come back and he gets violent.
then of course new would be happy to see phee shoot tee, who was the whole reason non even got involved with dangerous mafia shit in the first place.
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the last scene is new, lighting a cigarette.
why would he be smoking in the middle of all this? like he has time to do that?
maybe it’s just a meaningless scene they’re throwing in the preview so they don’t have to spoil too much stuff.
but, still, new is the only one who's going through with his plan, and he wouldn’t waste time on lighting a cigarette! unless it’s truly chaos, and like we know, he smokes to de-stress.
creepily, when i saw the scene the first time, i thought ‘this is his last cigarette. they’re holding him at gunpoint and they allow him to smoke one last time before they pull the trigger’ because he’s clearly shivering. but that may be way too far as i don’t think any of them would shoot anyone in cold blood if they weren’t actively threatened.
but a more plausible theory would be that they’re forcing him to smoke. in the scene where new is urging phee on to shoot, phee looks at him ‘like, what the fuck?’ like he’s not liking new telling him what to do at all.
maybe then, phee doesn’t shoot anyone, not fluke, not tee, but instead turns on new and points the gun at him. maybe phee really doesn’t want any kind of revenge for non anymore as his brother became too violent for his liking. but phee wouldn’t shoot new.
he could however hold him at gunpoint, and force him to smoke one of the drugged cigarettes, one with an X. maybe so he isn’t an active threat to them anymore, urging them to kill each other and to cause more chaos. they’d be on equal ground as he’d start hallucinating too.
what do you think?
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hughungrybear · 2 months
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Now that I have time to (slightly) digest everything that happened in the finale, New really did managed to have people killed without getting blood in his hands. To recap:
1. Por got himself fatally stabbed with that branch. Top (under the influence of New's drugs) finished him off.
2. Poor Uncle Deng was an innocent victim of the well-placed garrote, designed to keep everyone from getting out of the house (or potential rescuers getting in).
3. Top was shot (and eventually killed) by Fluke during the hallucination sequence.
4. Fluke stabbed his own eyes (with small, pointy needles of all things 🫣) and took Top with him to death as they fall down the stairs.
5. Baby White 😭😭😭 was (unwillingly) stabbed to death by his beloved, Tee.
6. Jin mutilated his own hand (I am still salty that he is alive, even if it was implied as a dream sequence 😤).
At this point, the only time New moved to physically hurt someone is when he smashed Phee's head because Phee wouldn't let him continue to strangle Tee to death.
Yeah. So technically, New did not really kill anyone 😅
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vegasthehedgehog · 2 months
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Some moments worth taking note of:
And a little rant at the end
The mon finally realizing why Non needed his meds. This is big because it probably made her guilt so much worse. She finally realized how much pain Non must have been in.
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Also, this scene shows me how ashamed that they still were of mental illness. Also, anyone notice the switch in his face. How did the dad go from upset to apathetic to angry in .2 seconds?
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I get why he would be angry about the lie, but treating your son like that at his mom's funeral is crazy. Also, treating him like this after what Non went through is also not good. I understand he was about to leave anyways, but why decide to hurt the only kid you have left first? What's the point of being angry? You pretty much made New think that his mom's and your death, were his fault. That is a special kind of cruel. Harboring so much resentment toward your own kids is obnoxious. He didn't even let New explain or talk to him, except to tell him that he should have given up on Non like he did.
The parents failed the kids but acted like it was the kids' jobs to make their lives easy. Their failure is the cause of so much of this. They were falling to pieces but expected New to just be fine? Why are the parents allowed to fall apart but New wasn't allowed to be anything but Nons perfect older brother. He seemed to be the only one who felt guilty for being seen as better than Non and letting Non down. I know this ended with both parents dead but it doesn't change or excuse their behavior.
As someone with parents who seemed to think that it's the kids' job to take care of them while the kid acts as the adult and put together, these parents really irritated me. I didn't know that kids were supposed to be supported and loved unconditionally and taught how to live. I had to grow up because my parents would fall apart without someone looking out for them. If my dad was upset, it would be my job to deal with him. I had to be a perfect child who acted like an adult, and if I ever did anything where I needed support, I had no one. Non should have been able to get support from his parents but instead got yelled at for how people were looking at them. New didn't even feel comfortable enough to show emotion and tell his parents he wanted to take a break from being the perfect child because they couldn't stand to have two useless and problematic sons. Even in death, they were punishing their kids. And that hurts my heart.
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the-pink-quill · 2 months
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Now where have I seen this face before...
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Aha!
See also:
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DFF (2024) inspired by The Nanny (1993)
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mousydentist · 2 months
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going back to my roots (making a thousand profile icons)
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kerrikins · 2 months
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New: Righteous Villain or Straying? 
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New’s story is deeply tragic and one that a lot of people can empathize with. He’s been put through hell beyond most people’s imagining - first with the disappearance of his little brother and the guilt and fear that came along with it. Then that was compounded with the double loss of his parents, and not only that, all three had one thing in common - they happened when New was not around. 
So, bearing a burden of guilt and rage, New became the hero for the audience, with one target in mind: avenging his little brother. His laser focus became clear as we moved deeper into the story, with New having one goal in mind: find out what happened Non, along with another goal seeming to appear as well: make them pay. With the best wishes of the audience at his back, his path as a righteous avenging hero seemed clear.
Is New straying into dangerous territory, however? 
Let’s think about New’s history before this. His place in the narrative is that of an older brother who has already failed his little brother. They weren’t close and he wasn’t there for Non in his time of need. Part of New’s story is one of absolution and redemption as he wasn’t there for Non and wasn’t a good brother to him in the past. He’s redeeming himself for his wrongs to Non by finding out what happened to him - seeking justice - and possibly making them pay - revenge. 
In this episode, however, we caught a glimpse of something else for the first time… New straying from having Non at the forefront of his mind. Phee asks him if this is what Non would want, and New’s reply is that he doesn’t care. 
In terms of horror, this can sometimes be a mistake. Because it’s different to be killing in the name of righteous revenge vs killing because you want to. In horror the latter is often viewed as straying from the ‘purity’ of the goal and can spell doom in the narrative. 
In terms of New’s personal journey this also matters because now he’s backsliding into the very thing he was supposed to be redeeming himself from - not thinking about Non or making him the priority. If the killings stop being about Non and justice or vengeance for him, then is New still our righteous avenging hero? That's questionable.
Now, there’s some doubt as to whether or not Non actually WOULD want this, and I agree that we don’t know for sure. We did see Non write out his script, after all. 
However when it came down to it, Non stopped when Jin apologized to him. 
We also saw the note that he left behind with Tee, a note in which he said nothing about revenge or anything of the sort. He didn’t express a desire for revenge to Tee himself, either. He was mostly in despair at his situation (which is understandable). So I'd say that we don't know for sure what Non would want at this point (if he was alive), three years out from the original events. He could be desperate for revenge or he could not be, I'd say either is possible. Keep in mind that Non was mostly portrayed as a quiet, gentle boy, and only resorted to violence when he was pushed to the absolute brink.
There was also something else we saw with New’s characterization which I found interesting, and that’s that he wasn’t doing the killing himself. Instead he was trying to get the other person who loved Non to do the killing FOR him - after having told Phee that he wouldn't have to do this in a prior episode. The combination of both going back on his word and pressuring someone else into doing his dirty work for him could be bad, in terms of the typical horror narrative. It's one thing to take revenge yourself, it's another to make someone else do it for you, especially since Phee has actually been portrayed as mostly greyish white rather than straight up grey or dark like some of the other characters.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out, and whether it means that our elder brother will emerge as a sole (or otherwise) survivor, or whether he’s now been doomed due to losing sight of his priorities.
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tinysweetflour · 2 months
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Dff death and fear- analysis:
Por- his death is the easiest to understand. whatever he did to non could be nothing compared to others. he was just a typical bully. as for the camera he genuinely believed the whole time it was non who broke it. he realised his actions in his deathsofa?? and asked for forgiveness. spoiler alert: he is the only one in the entire series we know who is actually dead.
Top- he was never the instigator just went on his friends. in the final episode we see him confessing to non and for making him open those accounts. that is his only crime. he was the first person to talk about a ghost and almost everyone dismisses him. that is his biggest fear. that nobody is believing him. that is what we see his hallucinations. nobody believing him.
Fluke- his eyes are his curse. he saw everything. the camera, the video. and this is his fear. he is also the only other person who sees a bloodied keng. because both jin and fluke feel they are somewhat responsible for kengs' death.
White- white doesn't add anything by himself but is related to tee. we do not see non or anybody in his halluciation. we see his biggest fear-catching an STD and tee leaving him because of it. that's why we see condoms lying around in his hallucination.
Tee- his biggest regret is not helping non. and he regrated that. he felt he himself was to blame for nons' death. and when white came into his life it is absolutely possible to imagine white getting killed because of him would be his biggest fear.
Jin- he is the only bully who doesn't see non. he only see his actions. because he is selfish. he doesn't fear non. his biggest fear is tasting his own medicine. he is also vain enough to not kill himself. that is why see him harming his hand rather than killing himself.
Phee- it was hard to decipher where his hallucinations started and ended. i couldn't understand if some of the actions was just writing mistakes or was of any significance in the story. i concluded my theory with as soon as we start seeing phees' hallucinations that was the end of the story. his original fear was not being able to save non. and we see that. but then it changes to his current fear- not getting out of the mansion. phee is also mentally stronger than others. he questions his hallucinations. and in the end instead of his hallucinations controlling him we see him controlling his hallucinations. we see him getting out of the mansion with jin bcause this is what he promised jin. we see him saving tee because he wanted to save the people in the mansion.
New/Tan- he's just smoking the hell out of his janta drug.
*his hallucination of non is actually part of phees' hallucination. we saw him have a hallucination before and he is terrified of non in that. but in this hallucinaton we see non calmy call upon new and say stuff non wouldn't actually say to new- like "you will always be there, i'm in your heart." we see the reality of non and news' relationship. they didn't have a good one. and new felt guilty for not helping non. we see this hallucination from phees' perspective. this is what phee thinks their relationship is like.*
honorable mention:
Non- "i'm gonna get out of here". is he actually dead?
Keng- at first we thought he died in the car crash but then we see him episode 10. injured but still alive. after that we don't see him again. is he actually dead this time?
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sherrymagic · 2 months
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Tan/New being iconic in Episode 10 DEAD FRIEND FOREVER (2023-2024)
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syrena-del-mar · 2 months
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An Ode to Older Siblings: New in Dead Friends Forever, Episode 9
Spoilers ahead for Dead Friend Forever Episode 9. Allusions to suicide and all other triggers that have accompanied this show will be here. Tagging @slayerkitty for the DFF Meta compilation.
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Can you imagine New, who sacrificed his relationship with his little brother to make it into a university abroad with a scholarship, one that would open opportunities that Thailand did not have to offer him, having to come back on a plane ride? A minimum of 12 hours in a plane, in an airport, packed with people going on business trips and vacations, yet where nobody knows that you're going to back home to a hell that you never could have imagined? It was supposed to be a holiday for him, a chance to see his family again after months of being apart.
But instead, his baby brother was now missing. The same baby brother that had given up on having any semblance of a relationship with him because he felt abandoned, forgotten. His little brother who would find no difference if he was abroad or not, because it's not like Tan had ever paid him any attention when he was so focused on just getting out of their home. But New was trying, extending an olive branch, hoping that Non would accept even the smallest bit of it. He'll bring him the best snacks that England has to offer, he'll listen to any problems that Non may have, even while he's thousands of miles away. But no calls ever came from his little brother's number. No, he hadn't even known that Non had gotten into trouble until his mother called him. Non's missing.
And, now he's returning home. The snacks that he had promised Non probably weighed like a ton of bricks as he carried them, they were his burden to carry. Maybe if he had been there a little more for Non, had been a little bit more present, maybe Non would have reached out. Maybe he wouldn't have had to turn to his tutor. His home is broken, but it's still a home. He's the oldest, he's the one that has to repair it when his parents can't.
He knows his mom had mentioned Non's boyfriend in passing before, even though Non had never told him directly. So he had searched through Non's belongings, looking for his number, hoping that Phee might have more information. He's doesn't, they're both at a loss. Maybe Phee didn't know Non as well as he thought he did, but New knows his brother. Non was never good with his words, never good at speaking directly of the problems he faced, but he would have left a sign, something, that might show them what demons he was facing alone.
So, he pretends that he can go back to his life in England, pretends for his parents' sake, so they don't have to worry about their only other son. But he can't, not when his little brother is out there...alone, again. He takes a leave of absence from school. Maybe it's crazy, reckless, but he puts himself back in high school. If the cops won't give him answers, then he'll get them himself. He forges his records, pretends that he was Non's same age, changes his identity. He's now Tan. A new kid that just happened to meet Phee at the office on their first day of school. Tan can charm his way into the same friend group that likely destroyed his brother. Tan can dig for the answers that nobody was willing to get.
And Phee helps, maybe he helps a little too much and little too close. For a moment, a part of New's heart breaks for his baby brother, as he sees his boyfriend get close to one of the bastards that had a hand in Non's disappearance. Maybe this is why Non always felt abandoned. So New smokes, one pack turns into hundreds more. A bad habit that he picked up with his English friends as they hit the pubs. It's the only sense of normalcy he has anymore.
He builds a makeshift lab with the money his parents wired him, nothing like the state-of-the-art equipment that he had grown accustomed to at his university, but it was enough. He researches, he experiments with the one concoction that might finally get Non's friends to tell him the truth. He's so close to perfecting it. Then his dad calls, and it feels strange. He rarely talked to his dad, it's his mom that usually calls him. Mom's dead. For a moment, he forgets that he was supposed to be in England, that he was never supposed to be in Thailand. He's not Tan anymore, he's just New. His house isn't just broken anymore, it's crumbling.
His father resents him. He's drunk and he's spitting fire, New can't blame him. Afterall, he is a liar. He lied that he was back at university, back in England. He never visited his mom when they were only miles away from each other and now she's dead as well. Was Non right all those years ago? Does he abandon everyone? He was never his dad's favorite, he knew that, but how he could he go and leave him behind too?
Now there was no broken house, no dilapidated house, no place that he called home. He couldn't fix this anymore. And he's tired, he's so tired. There's nothing for him to salvage anymore. Maybe if he takes a hit of his own concoction, he can end his pain as well. But Non... Non deserves justice and New is so scared, scared of failing him again. He wants this to end, he can't save anyone. But Phee arrives and holds him steady, lets him cling tightly to his shirt like he used to cling to his mother as a child.
Maybe he won't live for himself anymore. This all started with the bastards who were supposed to be his brother's friends. They cost him his whole family. No. he wasn't going to give them the satisfaction of destroying his home, of destroying his baby brother. He once told Non that he would steal his novel, get it sold for other people to read. Maybe it can't be sold anymore, but maybe Non's story can finally be told as Non had wished.
How could New have ever known that getting onto that plane would just be the prelude to the hell that he was about to raise? He's the oldest brother of the family, he was supposed to protect them, take his responsibility for his parents and his baby brother, but he failed. His dad was right, he wasn't a good enough son or brother, but maybe this could be the start of his atonement.
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glazecaramel · 2 months
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Goodbye Non and New 🕊
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crysta1ized · 2 months
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a scream/dff parallel theory on who’s behind the mask
this theory is just for fun, as in ‘what if dff followed the scream killer pattern perfectly’
this is based on the theory that there’s at least one masked killer (if not more), who’s not an hallucination.
if there’s something the scream franchise taught me, it’s that it’s always someone you know behind the mask.
and by ‘someone you know’ i mean,
someone the characters are all familiar with.
someone that’s currently alive and is known to be so.
someone that’s apart of the friend group or linked/ related to one of them.
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obviously, mr keng is now out of the question as he doesn’t tick all boxes; not all the characters are familiar with him (tan and phee know his face as they saw the video but never interacted with him and white never went to his tutoring school) and isn’t known to be alive.
non doesnt tick all boxes either. for him to be behind the mask, all the characters would have to know he’s alive and white doesn’t know him.
like in any scream movie, we reduced our options to only the people stuck in the house.
we’re also assuming that any of these boys may be putting on an act. we never know what side they’re on until we really know (ex: tan).
por, top, tee and fluke tick all the boxes but are out of the question as they’d never want to seek revenge for non.
jin, phee, tan and white are now the only options left.
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1) jin is ambiguous. he parted ways with non in weird terms, as he was jealous he got with mr keng and ended up feeling really guilty about the video, though non probably never knew jin was responsible for it (though it’s still not confirmed that it was jin’s video).
-> what if jin helped non after that to redeem himself? what if he somehow helped him escape tee’s uncle and is now helping him take his revenge?
that would explain why when hallucinating he’s only seeing a bloody mr keng, maybe because he abandoned him and went to save only non from tee’s uncle?
with this theory, it’s believable that jin is secretly on non’s side and is one of the masked killer. but is his main goal to scare the boys or to harm them?
2) tan was the one who suggested going to por’s house for jin’s farewell party. he obviously came here to get answers by drugging them all.
but we also know he put the mask and costume on top after drugging him. maybe he did that so a masked killer could continue to follow them while tan was with them so he’d have an alibi. then, how could they ever suspect tan of being the masked killer if tan was with them when they were attacked?
he could’ve chosen to wear the costume simply to scare them more while they were tripping so they’d spill the beans faster. but wether he’s behind the mask or not, seeing that smirk we all know he’s gonna speed up the process.
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3) phee is also a good candidate. he could've crafted a plan complementary to tan's, to scare the boys into revealing everything. however his whole behavior makes me doubt this a bit. he could be acting but really doesn't seem that into whatever tan wanted this trip to be.
4) white seems to be out the question since he seems to know nothing about non but im keeping my eye on him bc im sure there’s so much abt him we dont know yet.
i believe there's more than one of them behind the mask, though i agree some of the appearances must have been hallucinations. which makes me believe there must be an alliance between some of the boys.
the most probable are (ranked from most to least):
tan and white (?)
jin and white
tan and jin
phee and tan
phee and white
phee and jin
so, what do you think? who's behind all of this?
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themundanedumpling · 2 months
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he's just a silly goose
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vegasthehedgehog · 2 months
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I find it kinda fucked that Phee just forgave Jin in less than a second. Also, I think it's suspect that Phee never actually saw New kill anyone and was so willing to tell Jin the New was killing people. I also think it's fucked up Jin outed New when someone was weilding a gun. I really, really don't like how they made Jin the victim and Phee his savior. Even after confirming Jin released the video, he is still protected by Phee to the point of betraying New. Ugh idk I have a lot of thoughts and maybe I'm being too harsh but I swear it seems like Jin and Phee think that releasing that video was the same as telling Non to go die and makes them evenly evil. One action was done in multiple steps where he could have changed his mind, and one was some words that came out in anguish in a moment of anger. That's not the same thing. Sorry if this was incoherent.
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