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chilchuck spends the entirety of his daughters' visit hovering suspiciously between them and a certain dwarf. when it's time for the girls to go home and no proposals have been made, he breathes a sigh of relief — awkward coworker x family member romance route narrowly avoided!

a couple weeks later meijack shows back up unannounced, backpack laden with tools and thigh-high boots looking uncharacteristically spiffy. bewildered and betrayed, chilchuck rounds on a clueless senshi, only freezing mid-swear when meijack interrupts to ask after namari's whereabouts.

the last thing he remembers thinking is, "shit, i forgot about the other dwarf!" before promptly blacking out.

#dungeon meshi #jumping on the 'putting this man in situations' bandwagon #chilchuck tims #meijack chils #namari #will meijack be luckier in love than her father? #this idea came to me like a bolt out of the blue #unfortunately meijack is not namari's type but we'll work with what we have! #rip chilchuck's liver #he can't even go out w his usual drinking buddy bc drinking buddy in question is now the object of his daughter's affections #is namari even aware of what's happening lmao #don't take this too seriously lol #meijack can have a little crush as a treat #calemonsito notes

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speaking of racism in dm (both fantasy & regular), this exchange has haunted me since the first time i read this chapter

and regardless of actual origin within the eastern continent/archipelago, ofc she wouldn't recognize the name shuro bc it's not even his real name 😭

#dungeon meshi #rinsha fana #kabru #mickbell tomas #while this is a remark that seems consistent with mickbell's personality #it's killing me that he belongs to the second most oppressed group in this party #(the first being kobolds (kuro)) #and the relationship between the two of them is unclear to me #sort of like a han solo & chewbacca situation but with a meaner han #idk i think i'd like to see rin explore her heritage at some point #milsiril did a number on her & kabru #calemonsito notes #edit: milsiril did not adopt rin! however it's still assumed she stayed w elves until she joined kabru's party

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post-canon laishuro but it's gekkan shoujo nozaki-kun. is this anything???

shuro attempts to confess his new & confusing feelings but laios misunderstands "i want to stay by your side" as shuro volunteering to stay and help in the golden kingdom's restoration efforts. everyone's patience is sorely tested and an ungodly amount of cheesecake is consumed.

#dungeon meshi #laishuro #what do you mean this isn't already canon?????? #the dm party & the gsnk crew are similar in that they all take turns being the straight man #and we also have: #chilchuck 🤝 hori = short-tempered short kings #cheesecake! #the reveal that chiyo wasn't even all that into let's love originally & was a fan of a different mangaka lmao #and ofc laios' and nozaki's heretofore unprecedented levels of neurodivergent swag #calemonsito notes #trying to get Something to happen becomes a team effort #dm laios touden #dm laius thorden #dm toshiro nakamoto #fireworks confession sceneeeee #edit. wait. wait. farcille as mayumiko #i was gonna make kabru mikorin but i guess he's ken-san now???

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m laios looks like their dad but f laios looks like their mom

what do i do with this information ryoko kui

#dungeon meshi #laios touden #i'm ill!!!!!!!!!!!!! #does this imply anything????????? #this just added fuel to my angsty genderbend au help #calemonsito notes

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i'm really curious about what marcille's mother's deal is. seems like she's not too big on the rest of elven society. here's what we know about her so far:

mage at a human royal court (adventurer's bible)

courtship with marcille's father donato lasted 17 years (adventurer's bible)

specialty is roast pork, which was also donato's favorite (chapter 81)

had a cheerful personality up until the point donato got too sick to eat his favorite food. her extreme emotional reaction to this left a lasting impression on marcille (chapter 81)

remarried to a gnome and moved away from the city at some point after donato died (adventurer's bible)

several portraits of her appear in marcille's nightmare (chapter 42); this is the second time we see marcille dream of her (chapter 3)

preferred non-elven food and didn't introduce marcille to any traditional elven dishes (chapter 74)

from the canaries' reactions in chapter 74, it appears elven society looks down on elves who go to live among and work for short-lived races. they seemed especially put off that she would have a mixed-blood child. when they're talking about the lyrikmumare to get marcille to trip up, marcille envisions her mother saying that the food "here" (i.e., the northern continent) tastes so much better. so the picture we're getting here is of an elf who has removed herself from elven culture, but the question is, did she do it willingly or was she forced to?

keeping her other actions in mind, i'm leaning more towards the former. the most intriguing thing for me is that she eventually married a gnome, despite elves and gnomes having infamously waged war against each other over differences in the practice of magic and presently tending to discriminate against the other on sight. (one thing's for sure — marcille's mother is winning the idgaf war!)

marcille never talks about her gnome stepfather though, and it's unclear what she thinks of her mother's remarriage. the timing of the remarriage is also a mystery. donato married marcille's mother when he was 32 (after having courted her for 17 years) and died at 82, meaning they were married for 50 years. marcille is also currently 50 years old, but we know she wasn't born immediately after the marriage: in chapter 81, donato's doppelganger says marcille was born when he'd started "getting on in years." based on marcille's memories of him and the established fact that the average tall-man lifespan is 60 years, i'd hazard that he was in his 50s then. this gives him 30 years or less with marcille — definitely less than 35, which we know is the age at which she left for the magic academy.

we don't know if marcille's mother remarries before or after marcille leaves (if before, than that's definitely a shockingly short time), but it's interesting that she chose to marry someone from a long-lived race this time. maybe this is her way of ensuring she spares herself another heartbreak? or maybe she *is* still heartbroken and is trying to cover it up.

but. i can't help but kind of agree with chilchuck in chapter 81, that marcille's parents are not blameless for marcille becoming the dungeon lord. since it's apparently well-documented, they surely must have known — as well-educated people — that mixed-blood children face not just discrimination but also mental anguish that comes with their unstable aging (not to mention the sterility). so the way they raised marcille feels frankly irresponsible 😭

anyway. i'd love to get spin-off content where post-adventure marcille and her mother meet again. i feel like there's a lot of unresolved issues there (that can of course be hashed out over a good meal).

#dungeon meshi #marcille donato #what can i say i'm often drawn to mysterious mother characters (often dead) #the toudens' mom too — we know even less about her! #does marcille's mother hate being an elf?? #oh and if i missed any points feel free to reply #marcille doesn't really seem to have strong feelings about elven society #although it appears she might not have interacted with that many other elves before the canaries #i wonder if marcille realized fionil was also a half-elf #i'd like to see them interact as well. get fionil's perspective on lifespan disparities. seems like her dad is the elf #oh wait wait i was also wondering if it's still possible for marcille's mother to get pregnant #what happens if a mixed-blood child is from two long-lived races? #imagine marcille with a baby sibling #speaking of babies everyone kept making digs at her sterility but she never expresses an active wish for children #i just think that's interesting #calemonsito notes

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laios & marcille's relationship is so important to me. like. not even in a romantic sense! but they're each other's ride or die for real. they've both grown so much *with* and *through* each other that just seeing the difference between how they treated each other in the first chapter vs the last chokes me up!!!

#dungeon meshi #dungeon meshi spoilers #i guess??? #laios touden #laius thorden #marcille donato #laios insisting that marcille stay with them on the island instead of going w the canaries #marcille saying laios would be hurt if they were to be blunt w him about his real deepest desires #i want what they have #the way it's become second nature to them to look out for each other #a little bit codependent maybe but that's where trauma gets you #calemonsito notes

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ok so it's clarified that part of the winged lion's curse was that monsters would now fear and avoid laios. but this panel also appears to imply that laios can no longer eat monsters himself, and tbh that's way more fucked up!!

#dungeon meshi #dungeon meshi spoilers #laios touden #laius thorden #like the real curse is that monsters are so repelled by him to the point of his body automatically rejecting them even as food 😭 #now *that* is truly horrific #can't imagine a worse fate for him honestly!! #winged lion when i get my hands on you........... #calemonsito notes

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i still hate how the onus was on zon and his people to "prove" that orcs were capable of more than violence meanwhile marcille didn't do a goddamn thing to change their minds about elves being raging bigots. funny how she thinks elves (a long-lived race with powerful magic) and orcs (a short-lived race with no magic as far as we can see) are on a level playing field when it comes to securing land and resources!

and having bahai, zon's child, be the one to go "why can't we all just get along" like ooh ryoko kui some crimes cannot be forgiven

#dungeon meshi #fantasy racism #she captured white ppl microaggressions against poc perfectly but cannot commit to portraying actual oppression #and with current events marcille's demonization of the orcs who are obviously fighting to keep their autonomy reads so so awfully #tfw you struggle w depicting oppression bc then you'd have to come to terms w the horrors your country wrought in east & southeast asia #ryoko kui 🤝 hiromu arakawa #interesting how the 'how laios & shuro met' comic generated more racism discourse than ep 4 of the anime #calemonsito notes #edited to include zon's name #i thought his son had an official name too but i can't confirm it in the world guide #edit 2: found his name! #just a lil tidbit: bahay means house in tagalog

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this immediately comes to mind every time i see senshi x chilchuck x chilchuck's wife fanart

#dungeon meshi #sungwon cho (prozd) is senshi's eng va #senshi of izganda #chilchuck tims #chilchuck's wife #i'm crying ryoko kui please give us a name #anyway....i see the vision #and as always congrats to prozd for being dungeon meshi's most successful fan #calemonsito notes #Youtube

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i expected leed to have a more teenage girl-y voice so i was surprised to hear her sound so mature. would've been funnier to hear chilchuck getting told off for basically being a tsundere by a girl young enough to be his daughter

#dungeon meshi #dm leed #dm chilchuck tims #legitimately wondering about the casting/directing choices here #she's literally 14yo #calemonsito notes #dungeon meshi spoilers

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sometimes i feel like the "marcille hates laios" jokes are going a little too far.............

#dungeon meshi #laios touden #marcille donato #like i really fucking hope those are jokes otherwise i'm questioning your reading comprehension #she went from 'laios is a freak (derogatory)' to 'laios is a freak (affectionate)' #she might constantly complain about him & his methods but she's still gonna stand by him & his weird ass at the end of the day! #and lbr by the end of the series they're the ones who know the other best. they've shared things w each other that they haven't w falin #and you want to tell me she hates him??????? come onnnnnnnn #also seeing them summed up as besties or siblings-in-law is baffling to me sorry #unless you've walked your besties/siblings-in-law back from the brink then carry on idk #calemonsito notes

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i'm 35 eps into till the end of the moon and only a couple of eps into love is sweet, but so far i'm learning i prefer romance that's seasoned with lies, betrayal, poison, murder, suicide, murder-suicide, blood (so much blood), and the destruction of the world as we know it — to whatever the hell yuan shuai and jiang jun have going on

#till the end of the moon #love is sweet #cdrama #i can excuse the extermination of all life but i draw the line at #getting your love interest kicked out of her apartment & orchestrating her moving into your building so you can keep an eye on her #ceos are more evil than literal devil gods #is the lesson i'm taking away here #this is actually my first foray into cdramas #as far as i'm concerned tteotm is already peak #i heard the ending is frustrating but we'll see #calemonsito notes

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no leed making one of the wargs wave bye-bye????????

#dungeon meshi #i'm devastated #the ending ilustration with the orcs was cute though #dungeon meshi spoilers #calemonsito notes #wow i can't spell #*illustration

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born to be laios touden, forced to be toshiro nakamoto

#dungeon meshi #when doing character analysis forces you to self-reflect 😔 #laios touden #toshiro nakamoto #shuro #calemonsito notes #is this anything

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i get that it's tonally off for the narrative, but the succubus could've gotten to laios faster if it had taken on the form of izutsumi granting permission for scritches instead. that mf would've folded so quick

#laios touden #dungeon meshi #dungeon meshi spoilers #he was so happy when izutsumi tried sleeping beside him #he wouldn't even question it #next thing he knows he's got a massive sting mark on one of his fingers #i love this guy but yeah 😭💀 #calemonsito notes

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laios touden, nozaki umetarou, & maomao getting together to create absolute chaos in the kitchen. i need it

#dungeon meshi #laios touden #gekkan shoujo nozaki-kun #gsnk #nozaki umetarou #the apothecary diaries #kusuriya no hitorigoto #maomao #i'm not caught up with knh yet but maomao has my whole heart #nd levels off the charts #with their powers combined they're about to cook the most delicious dishes you've never even thought could exist #calemonsito notes