#but from a purely story-perspective i also hate the 'everything would've been fine if not for jiggy' takes

[lgbtlunaverse]

"Nie Mingjue would still have died young even if Jin Guangyao hadn't killed him" Not as in "So it's fine to kill him because people who won't live for much longer have obviously already forfeit their lives" (what) But as in "If you don't get that Nie Mingjue has had an inevitable young and violent death hanging over him since he was a young teenager and has embraced it you can't fully understand his character"

#mdzs #nie mingjue #i do not wish to be misconstrued on this #because the first interpretation might genuinely be my least favorite nmj take #because it has so much baggage in regards to the actual real life murder of disabled people. most often by their caretakers!! #and the reaction to it from public the media and the justice system is overwhelmingly 'oh well that wasn't a life worth living anyway' #'plus they were SO hard to take care of rlly if you think about it the murderer is the victim here that must've been so hard for them' #and these characters aren't real. nmj isn't actually dead he was never alive. but i really hope that take is no one's actual view on life #but from a purely story-perspective i also hate the 'everything would've been fine if not for jiggy' takes #STOP MAKING THE BLORBO UNINTERESTING BY OUTSOURCING ALL HIS ISSUES!! THOSE ARE /HIS/ LET HIM KEEP THEM

[summers-pratt]

Would admitting that I don’t really like Faith make me a heretic? (Wait I just realized I made a god tier pun - HA I just did it again). She could be fun sometimes as a villain, but her overall character arc really did not land well from my perspective and she can be REALLY annoying at times, especially when it comes to how she treats Buffy. Most of the other people I’ve found who also feel that way about Faith are Bangels who also don’t like Spike (besides like two mutuals of mine), so I feel like I’m mostly on my own.

The only heresy possible 'round here is hate on a good pun and you're obviously not in danger of that lol we are all entitled to our own opinions :)

I've had mixed feelings on Faith since I first watched the show, and the more I read of other people's takes the more mixed they become, I guess because I never had strong opinions on her. I agree she's fun as a villain and her arc could be a lot better, and because there's so much potential for her to redeem herself and they never really get into that, it gets annoying. Yeah you could argue she was influenced by the scoobies and watchers' treatment of her, but there's more to her character than purely reactionary actions. I like what she does for Buffy's arc in the third season, how she influences her as a shadow/love interest, but she goes so far into villain territory in s3 and s4 and then never has a meaningful turning point or exploration into her guilt and desire to make up for what she's done and it does her character a disservice. It's briefly glossed over in ats, and then she goes to prison and poof she's fixed. Like most things in ats, it takes a female character with great potential and throws her into an easily written box for her to be of use later without taking the time to actually delve into her psyche and try to rectify her impact on the story and Buffy (but ohoho ats isn't Buffy's show even though it wouldn't exists with Buffy (the character and the show) so we just don't have to deal with any of that??). So I do see where you're coming from in your frustration with Faith, it sucks they just made her a hero turned villain and didn't give her a chance to atone or even really apologize to Buffy.

I can see how people who don't like Faith can also not like Spike; they're both shadows of Buffy that also serve as love interests, and both have done really awful things and are framed as villains, but they really only give Spike a meaningful arc (which don't get me wrong, was the right choice, Spike is a fantastic character and deserved the elaboration, and more). I feel like not liking Faith or Spike and liking Bangel is a very simple take, like, those are the surface opinions the writers want you to have, at least in the earlier seasons, they're easy opinions to have (and it's fine if you do!) But I'm a big fan of complexity and digging deeper into characters and relationships so I have very opposite feelings. Though still, not liking Faith for her actions against Buffy and her loved ones are more than understandable, and I do agree to really get her back to a kind of protagonist status, I need more repentance and effort from her for it to make sense, rather than just plopping her into the last season like "look prison works everything is fixed!" I guess there just wasn't enough time to fit an actually meaningful arc for her into the show? And the show is Buffy the Vampire Slayer, not Faith the Vampire Slayer. Still, her own redeptive arc couldbe complimented or contradicted Buffy's somehow, like maybe in season 5 and 6, as Buffy feels like she's losing herself, she doesn't know how to marry these two parts of herself, woman and slayer, it might've been interesting to see Faith doing just that as she worked through her stuff. I dunno, I'm just spitballing, my point is that whatever it could be, it would have to subtextally be about Buffy. Though maybe they were already doing that with Spike so that would've been Too much lol

ok I'm stopping there before this gets any longer lol

#mixed up faith feelings #theory is actually something that can be so sexy #ask