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oprairierose · 1 year
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SPIKE in BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER | Fool for Love
“It’s a perfectly perfect word as many words go, but the bother is nothing rhymes, you see.”
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sulphur-and-honey · 4 months
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S4. Ep7. The Initiative
Following in the footsteps of previous episode sevens, “The Initiative” is this season’s turning point as it is revealed that Riley is secretly a commando. The episode is jam packed with memorable moments and sudden reveals, yet somehow it manages to be the weakest episode seven we’ve had yet. Originally entitled “Secret Agent Man,” “the Initiative” is similar to “Wild at Heart” in that it isn’t really about Buffy—it’s about Riley.
Writer Douglas Petrie got his inspiration for this episode from the English TV show, “The prisoner,” about a former secret service man who is held captive and referred to only as number 6. Wikipedia describes the show as featuring themes including identity theft, mind control, and various forms of social indoctrination. Another inspiration was from Anthony Burgess’ book “Clockwork Orange,” a story written to explore the moral issues involved in behavior modification.
In his analysis, Mark Field writes, “Joss is taking these three themes – identity, mind control, and social indoctrination, and is using them to raise basic questions about human identity and the extent to which we should be able to construct our own identity as part of our existential project.”
In an interview with BBC, Douglas Petrie elaborates on the episode, saying, “We’re also trying to point out this guy, the commando, is just a guy. It’s not part of Buffy’s world. She turns down the assignment of going to look for this guy because it’s not supernatural. And that rally sets up the whole season; these guys are just human beings delving in the supernatural world. And that’s not part of Buffy’s world and not part of Buffy’s responsibility. And that’s the tension throughout the season…season 4 is all about Science versus Magic.” And as we have seen and will continue to see, science is coded masculine or patriarchal, and magic is coded feminine.
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atlasshrugd · 3 years
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why did buffy save spike from the initiative when her plan was to kill him??
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rose-icosahedron · 3 years
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i just watched s4 ep7 of buffy and if that's not my fav example of two superheros in civilian form interacting i don't know what is.
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Buffy Season 7/Angel Season 4 Watch Order
Buffy Season 7           Angel Season 4
If you want to skip ahead: Buffy Season 1-3, Buffy Season 4/Angel Season 1, Buffy Season 5/Angel Season 2, Buffy Season 6/Angel Season 3, Angel Season 5
B-S7 Ep1 Lessons | B-S7 Ep2 Beneath You | A-S4 Ep1 Deep Down | B-S7 Ep3 Same Time, Same Place | A-S4 Ep2 Ground State | B-S7 Ep4 Help | A-S4 Ep3 The House Always Wins | B-S7 Ep5 Selfless | A-S4 Ep4 Slouching Toward Bethlehem | A-S4 Ep5 Supersymmetry | B-S7 Ep6 Him | A-S4 Ep6 Spin the Bottle | B-S7 Ep7 Conversations with Dead People | A-S4 Ep7 Apocalypse, Nowish
B-S7 Ep8 Sleeper | B-S7 Ep9 Never Leave Me | B-S7 Ep10 Bring on the Night | B-S7 Ep11 Showtime | A-S4 Ep8 Habeas Corpses | B-S7 Ep12 Potential | A-S4 Ep9 Long Day's Journey | A-S4 Ep10 Awakening |  B-S7 Ep13 The Killer in Me | A-S4 Ep11 Soulless | B-S7 Ep14 First Date | A-S4 Ep12 Calvary | B-S7 Ep15 Get It Done | B-S7 Ep16 Storyteller 
 A-S4 Ep13 Salvage | A-S4 Ep14 Release | B-S7 Ep17 Lies My Parents Told Me | A-S4 Ep15 Orpheus | A-S4 Ep16 Players | A-S4 Ep17 Inside Out | A-S4 Ep18 Shiny Happy People | B-S7 Ep18 Dirty Girls | A-S4 Ep19 The Magic Bullet | A-S4 Ep20 Sacrifice | B-S7 Ep19 Empty Places | A-S4 Ep21 Peace Out | B-S7 Ep20 Touched | A-S4 Ep22 Home | B-S7 Ep 21 End of Days | B-S7 Ep22 Chosen    
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buffyverse-rewind · 3 years
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Buffy Season 7/Angel Season 4 Watch Order
Buffy Season 7           Angel Season 4
If you want to skip ahead: Buffy Season 1-3, Buffy Season 4/Angel Season 1, Buffy Season 4/Angel Season 2, Buffy Season 5/Angel Season 2, Buffy Season 6/Angel Season 3, Angel Season 5
B-S7 Ep1 Lessons | B-S7 Ep2 Beneath You | A-S4 Ep1 Deep Down | B-S7 Ep3 Same Time, Same Place | A-S4 Ep2 Ground State | B-S7 Ep4 Help | A-S4 Ep3 The House Always Wins | B-S7 Ep5 Selfless | A-S4 Ep4 Slouching Toward Bethlehem | A-S4 Ep5 Supersymmetry | B-S7 Ep6 Him | A-S4 Ep6 Spin the Bottle | B-S7 Ep7 Conversations with Dead People | A-S4 Ep7 Apocalypse, Nowish
B-S7 Ep8 Sleeper | B-S7 Ep9 Never Leave Me | B-S7 Ep10 Bring on the Night | B-S7 Ep11 Showtime | A-S4 Ep8 Habeas Corpses | B-S7 Ep12 Potential | A-S4 Ep9 Long Day's Journey | A-S4 Ep10 Awakening |  B-S7 Ep13 The Killer in Me | A-S4 Ep11 Soulless | B-S7 Ep14 First Date | A-S4 Ep12 Calvary | B-S7 Ep15 Get It Done | B-S7 Ep16 Storyteller | A-S4 Ep13 Salvage | A-S4 Ep14 Release | B-S7 Ep17 Lies My Parents Told Me | A-S4 Ep15 Orpheus | A-S4 Ep16 Players | A-S4 Ep17 Inside Out | A-S4 Ep18 Shiny Happy People | B-S7 Ep18 Dirty Girls | A-S4 Ep19 The Magic Bullet | A-S4 Ep20 Sacrifice | B-S7 Ep19 Empty Places | A-S4 Ep21 Peace Out | B-S7 Ep20 Touched | A-S4 Ep22 Home | B-S7 Ep 21 End of Days | B-S7 Ep22 Chosen    
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atlasshrugd · 3 years
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did spike just save willow from being shot with the tranquilizer gun by the initative???
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Buffy Season 4/Angel Season 1 Watch Order
Buffy Season 4          Angel Season 1
Watch order for other seasons:  Buffy Season 1-3,  Buffy Season 5/Angel Season 2, Buffy Season 6/Angel Season 3, Buffy Season 7/Angel Season 4, Angel Season 5
*Note, the three episode stretch of Buffy episodes starting with Something Blue through Doomed, as well as Angel episodes Hero through Somnambulist are ordered this way for narrative purposes; whereas if you would prefer to watch in the sequential order they aired, then alternate between Buffy and Angel each episode, starting with Something Blue.
Likewise Ange’s The Prodigal aired before Buffy’s Who Are You; and Buffy’s New Moon Rising aired between Angel’s 5x5 and Sanctuary.  
Good?  Here we go
B-S4 Ep1 The Freshman  |  A-S1 Ep1 City of...  |  B-S4 Ep2 Living Conditions  |  A-S1 Ep2 Lonely Hearts  |   B-S4 Ep3 The Harsh Light of Day  |  A-S1 Ep3. In the Dark  |  B-S4 Ep4 Fear, Itself  |  A-S1 E4 I Fall to Pieces  |  B-S4 Ep5 Beer Bad  |  A-S1 Ep5 Rm w/a Vu  |  B-S4 Ep 6 Wild at Heart  |  A-S1 Ep6 Sense & Sensitivity  |  B-S4 Ep7 The Initiative  |  A-S1 Ep 7 Bachelor Party  |
B-S4 Ep8 Pangs  | A-S1 Ep8 I Will Remember You  |
B-S4 Ep 9 Something Blue  |  B-S4 Ep10 Hush  |  B-S4 Ep11 Doomed  |  A-S1 Ep9 Hero  |  A-S1 Ep10 Parting Gifts  |  A-S1- Ep11 Somnambulist  |  B-S4 Ep12 A New Man  |  A-S1 Ep 12 Expecting  |  A-S1 Ep 13 She  |  B-S4 Ep13 The I in Team  |  B-S4 Ep14 Goodbye Iowa  |  A-S1 Ep14 I've Got You Under My Skin  |  B-S3 Ep15 This Year's Girl  |  B-S4 Ep16 Who Are You  |  A-S1 Ep15 The Prodigal  |  A-S1 Ep16 The Ring  |  B-S4 Ep17 Superstar  |   A-S1 Ep17 Eternity  |  B-S4 Ep18 Where the Wild Things Are  |  B-S4 Ep19 New Moon Rising  |  A-S1 Ep18 Five by Five  |  A-S1 Ep19 Sanctuary  |  B-S4 Ep20 The Yoko Factor  |  B-S4 Ep21 Primeval |  B-S4 Ep22 Restless |  A-S1 Ep20 War Zone  |  A-S1 Ep21 Blind Date  |  A-S1 Ep22 To Shanshu in L.A.
Breath. Get some water, maybe something eat. Take a nap. Dream of Buffy and Angel.  Then pull up the watch order for Buffy Season 5 and Angel Season 2.
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buffyverse-rewind · 3 years
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Buffy Season 4/Angel Season 1 Watch Order
Buffy Season 4          Angel Season 1
Watch order for other seasons:  Buffy Season 1-3,  Buffy Season 5/Angel Season 2,  Buffy Season 6/Angel Season 3, Buffy Season 7/Angel Season 4, Angel Season 5
*Note, the three episode stretch of Buffy episodes starting with Something Blue through Doomed, as well as Angel episodes Hero through Somnambulist are ordered this way for narrative purposes; whereas if you would prefer to watch in the sequential order they aired, then alternate between Buffy and Angel each episode, starting with Something Blue.
Likewise Ange’s The Prodigal aired before Buffy’s Who Are You; and Buffy’s New Moon Rising aired between Angel’s 5x5 and Sanctuary.  
 Good?  Here we go
B-S4 Ep1 The Freshman  |  A-S1 Ep1 City of...  |  B-S4 Ep2 Living Conditions  |  A-S1 Ep2 Lonely Hearts  |   B-S4 Ep3 The Harsh Light of Day  |  A-S1 Ep3. In the Dark  |  B-S4 Ep4 Fear, Itself  |  A-S1 E4 I Fall to Pieces  |  B-S4 Ep5 Beer Bad  |  A-S1 Ep5 Rm w/a Vu  |  B-S4 Ep 6 Wild at Heart  |  A-S1 Ep6 Sense & Sensitivity  |  B-S4 Ep7 The Initiative  |  A-S1 Ep 7 Bachelor Party  | 
B-S4 Ep8 Pangs  | A-S1 Ep8 I Will Remember You  |
B-S4 Ep 9 Something Blue  |  B-S4 Ep10 Hush  |  B-S4 Ep11 Doomed  |  A-S1 Ep9 Hero  |  A-S1 Ep10 Parting Gifts  |  A-S1- Ep11 Somnambulist  |  B-S4 Ep12 A New Man  |  A-S1 Ep 12 Expecting  |  A-S1 Ep 13 She  |  B-S4 Ep13 The I in Team  |  B-S4 Ep14 Goodbye Iowa  |  A-S1 Ep14 I've Got You Under My Skin  |  B-S3 Ep15 This Year's Girl  |  B-S4 Ep16 Who Are You  |  A-S1 Ep15 The Prodigal  |  A-S1 Ep16 The Ring  |  B-S4 Ep17 Superstar  |   A-S1 Ep17 Eternity  |  B-S4 Ep18 Where the Wild Things Are  |  B-S4 Ep19 New Moon Rising  |  A-S1 Ep18 Five by Five  |  A-S1 Ep19 Sanctuary  |  B-S4 Ep20 The Yoko Factor  |  B-S4 Ep21 Primeval |  B-S4 Ep22 Restless |  A-S1 Ep20 War Zone  |  A-S1 Ep21 Blind Date  |  A-S1 Ep22 To Shanshu in L.A.
Breath. Get some water, maybe something eat. Take a nap. Dream of Buffy and Angel.  Then pull up the watch order for Buffy Season 5 and Angel Season 2.
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