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#bonnie... I'm not too sure honestly. I feel like he values his freedom and would want to enjoy his youth
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Baby fever so bad I've been thinking about the ideal number of kids for characters. What is wrong with me.
#no main tag#anyway. I think for freddy it would depend. he's the anxious type- so having just one kid would be a lot for him#I'd imagine his decision of having another baby would be impacted a lot by how the first kid went#if everything was mostly alright he'd be all for it- if shit went sideways he would forever dread having a second one#fred doesn't like children. so... he probably wouldn't have any if not tied to freddy. and even then would insist on only one#chica... I think she'd like two. I've heard headcanons that she has younger siblings#and I see her as the type to want to want that for her children too#although I also imagine she would want to have her kids later in life... mid 30s maybe#fox I also see as someone who wouldn't really want kids- especially since I headcanon him as trans#he doesn't want to be pregnant and he doesn't want to dedicate years of his life raising a child#when he already spent most of his childhood having to take care of meg since they didn't have any parents#maybe if his partner wanted to adopt. and they adopted a slightly older child instead of a baby. but that's a big maybe#bonnie... I'm not too sure honestly. I feel like he values his freedom and would want to enjoy his youth#but I don't think he'd be against having a kid or two (maybe even three)#also I find the idea of him having lots of kids funny because. bunny lol#so idk about him#golden meanwhile I fully believe would want a big family. he felt so alone growing up and he's so starved for love#so he dreams of having his own family with lots of kids living in a big house and being very happy <3#I think he'd be happy with up to five kids lmao. although he understands if his partner would rather have less#he'd definitely want at least two though. he always thought having a sibling would've made his childhood less lonely and sad#so he wants that for his own babies :')#I was going to say more characters but now I'm embarrassed lol goodnight
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Oh my gosh, I LOVE what you pointed out about how Elena's martyrdom was not just an indicator of how wonderful she is but actually a sign of her darkness - how part of her no longer valued her life as highly, secretly wanted it to be over and felt like she should have died when her parents did. You're right that she's a more layered, cerebral and interesting character than she's given credit for. She feels like she has to be the perfect girl but does have real issues underneath. I always felt like she's one of the few TV protagonists I could have deep and really interesting conversations with. I would love to know whether you believe that she was genuinely in love with both Stefan and Damon at various points? I'm a Stelena shipper (sorry---please don't hate me!) but I do believe her love for both of them was very real. I would also love to hear your thoughts on Bonnie---other than being like an Elena Light, I don't get what her personality was supposed to be at all, especially because she was SO different in the first few episodes of the series!
I don't mind Stelena at all, so it's no problem haha.
Is it really possible to be in love with two people at the same time? Honestly, I don't know much about love. Society has drilled into us that we can't truly be in love with multiple people, but that's surely not true, considering we can love multiple people at once, like friends and family. I think being in love with more than one person must take a lot out of you, because of how intense romantic love and relationships can be, but, in Elena's case, she had a big heart and she fell for Damon when he was there for her and Stefan wasn't. When Stefan left at the end of season 2, Elena was still in love with, and faithful to, Stefan, but I think that, like she said, Damon "snuck up" on her; he was her rock throughout that whole Klaus period and his obvious love for her, as well as their mutual attraction, made her fall for him. But I don't think she ever stopped loving Stefan, especially after her feelings for Stefan were "rekindled" by his return to normal. It's very likely she loved both of them in different ways for most of season 3, but, imo she loved Stefan more than Damon, and I'm not sure she fell for Damon all the way in that season. In season 4, though, again Damon offered her something Stefan couldn't - freedom, acceptance, attention, because Stefan had become so obsessed with finding Elena a cure - and Elena and Stefan's relationship which never truly recovered from the blow delt by Klaus's interference, just couldn't sustain itself anymore. Elena and Stefan became too distant and her connection with Damon too strong. Truthfully, Elena had felt an attraction to Damon even in season 2, and the more distant she felt from Stefan and the closest she became to Damon, the harder it became for her to repress or ignore those feelings of attraction, which were not just sexual, but on a romantic and intelectual level too.
After Elena chose Damon, she laid her relationship with Stefan to rest. She had truly given it her all and it hadn't worked out; she loved only Damon after that. If she was ever in love with both of them at once, it was in late season 3 - very early season 4. I think in late season 3 her connection with Damon faltered because of Stefan's refocus on her, yet, because of Damon, she couldn't truly commit to Stefan. She then chose Stefan in the season 3 finale, but her world changed right after that, and Stefan quickly stopped making Elena feel loved. An important character trait of Elena's is that she didn't like looking back. She loved Stefan and stayed true to him in season 3 because she was loyal and they had never truly broken up but she finally ended things when she felt she couldn't move forward with him. She gave it one last try - it didn't work, she moved on and didn't look back, imo.
I don't know why Bonnie is called Elena Light? I've heard that before, but Elena wasn't a dark person, so Bonnie wasn't the light to Elena's dark? Is it because in the beginning Elena was depressed and Bonnie was so bright?
I don't think Bonnie's personality changed after the first episodes. She only became less trusting, a bit hardened, and closed-off, after her powers began to manifest themselves and she got caught up in vampire business. But Bonnie was always loyal and protective of her friends, kind, selfless, brave, caring, assertive, moral, stubborn, careful, and suspicious of vampires - which, truth be told, also caused her to, at times, distance herself from her closest friends. In the first episode of the series, when she touched Stefan and got a bad feeling, she immediately became cautious of him and protective of Elena. It was only after Stefan saved Vicky that she warmed up to him again. Also, in the first episode, she looked after Caroline, who was drunk and had been rejected by Stefan, and coaxed Elena out of her shell. That was pretty normal Bonnie behavior. I think her personality was very consistent. She just became a bit bitter and harsher, but 99% of the time that was only to vampires and other supernatural beings, who were all murderers. Bonnie was a witch, so it was her duty to protect humans, even if she helped her non-humans friends out a lot. Her priority was always to help others, never herself...
If anything, Bonnie became an Elena Dark. Morally, she didn't lose her morals like vampire Elena kind of did - though her choice to protect people like Damon didn't reflect well on her principles - but while Elena was protected by everyone Bonnie did the protection and was sacrificed for everyone else's well-being - so she became a tad darker than Elena in many ways, especially season 6 Elena.
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