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Save the Villainess Thoughts by Willow Masterpost Part 1: Jane

So I've decided to be insane. Make a small (lies, it is long, that is why it is divided up into parts) post about the Halloween videos and the lore that they have given us. As well as maybe compile theories/thoughts about these characters. Idk if there is a community for this even, or if anybody's actually obsessed like I am, but I'm having fun thinking about it either way, so... I guess this is for like the 0.0000000000001% of the people (me and only me). Enjoy lmao.

You have been warned: the actual insanity starts under the cut lmao.

So I will start with... Jane. Mostly because her Halloween special video is not as lore-bomb-dropping as the rest. The video itself is mostly about certain aspects of the gameplay so far. It's a neat little thing! Honestly, these are more thoughts/rambles than actual, well, coherent notes, but from what I've noticed (from being insane and watching every single social media post on Tumblr Best Laid Plans Productions ever made about all of them, more or less, even though my memory is spotty and I didn't have time to rewatch them before making this), is that Jane is just unknowingly integrated in this world. I don't notice her having any thoughts about before she was transported into the romance novel she read; it's not like she's thinking about her family home, or that she has any plans of going back. She just knows she doesn't belong in this world as the villainess, which is super interesting to me. She's just... accepted her fate and that she must survive. She's BECOME the villainess, rather than just feeling like an imposter in another person's body. She only knows she's innocent, which is why she's fighting so hard to be freed from such a fate. Another thing that supports this is the fact Jane always says such weird phrases that I'm like 99% sure aren't actual English idioms, but rather phrases that this alternate romance novel universe uses. Such as "By the blood" in the Halloween special specifically, because, what does this mean Jane???? What are you referring to here!!! (Side note: Edmund also uses these odd phrases a lot, so I suppose it's something the nobility of Carcosa are familiar with; some kind of "noble language" to distinguish those of nobility from commoners or whatever. Some kind of pretentious thing that just happens because society is cruel lmao. Either that OR this is just the way Carcosians speak in general and Jane just kinda always knew this ever.)

Another thing, besides just the obvious announcements of how this guideline/tutorial thing works in the gameplay, is the fact that Jane explicitly states that daytime and nighttime are important. Most people would sign this off to, well, gameplay experience. That during the night you can talk to people more intimately and have like rendezvous or whatever with your favourite characters, while at daytime you're solving mysteries mostly. See the thing with that is, is that Servant also somewhat says very similar things in previous instances of videos. And we all know that Servant is like... that one person that gives everyone the creeps, the intrigue and also the insanity. They are, as of now, the most explicit in the fact they are somewhat of a mastermind behind this all. They know what is happening with the lore. They know, but they don't like explicitly telling us what is happening, so... yeah thanks ig Servant? In each case, Jane here is not joking when she says that nighttime and daytime are important; they're probably very much so magically (maybe?) linked to how this story is supposed to progress. Aka gameplay actually impacts lore, and lore impacts gameplay. As to what it is referring to... well, I have my theories about it. But what I'm most confident in is that it is related to some kind of magic about the story. It is relevant to the narrative; relevant to things both Ben and Servant know about this world. And I say Ben because he's also so sus in such a world-altering way but I'll talk about him later... yeah, later lmao.

Now, my notes that I took while watching the videos here are very vague (thank you for that Willow, you are so insane about this you cannot even write in proper English), but there's something about the jewelry and accessories of these characters. Most noticeably, the way they glow. Like Rhythmically Glowing and Shaking. In Jane's case, it's her earrings [her brooch is less important but it still has symbolism on it probably, with how it has a bee etched onto it. Maybe this is her family's like symbol? Like how Renaissance Pope families had different kinds of symbols etched into buildings they funded into existence and all. Who knows]. Maybe this is some kind of glint effect or whatever; but then why is it animated like THAT??? Idk if I'm onto something or not here, I have high suspicions that I am, but maybe I'm also just looking into it too deeply... but there's something wrong with this jewelry. There's something wrong with the way that Servant's Brooch also glows, whenever Edmunds (tie clips? cufflinks for your neck??? what are they I'm not good with fashion, though the game has such good fashion design guys okay) accessories start glowing and shaking, when Izel has his little gem earring (I love that design omg, also + the brooch he has on his tie but like it doesn't shake) shakes and glows as well and how Ben's POCKET WATCH CHAIN (+ the little uhh buttons on his coat but they don't shake the way the other things do) IS GLOWING OKAY (and yes I'm insane enough to pause these videos just to see whether it is true). Something is going on. It's happening (slightly) even during daytime, and I checked this, so there's something fishy with this. There has to be. I'm so convinced there is jfkldsjfks. A possible explanation for this is that because these characters are all main actors in the story, some kind of magic is there to maybe,,, force them to play their part? Maybe they cannot be exempted from the main storyline because of this? Maybe everybody is just here because they have no other choice? Honestly idk. More thoughts on this in the other parts because dude I'm gonna lose my mind if I try to put everything in here. AND MAYBE IT'S JUST AN ARTISTIC CHOICE AND I'M JUST INSANE ABOUT IT??? Who knows.

Anyway, to close off this post, because I know it is long and idk whether there's actually any substance here, I'll try to compile the thoughts about Jane into a few small sentences, without fangirling in between lmao.

She's lovely, and while she is very funny, I find her harder to pin down than the rest of the cast (that we know of as of writing this). She's dead set on surviving, and that's probably because she might have experienced death once already. Either as the Villainess Jane Neville herself, or as the person she (possibly) used to be, that we know absolutely nothing of. She does not show any other hints to her past: just constantly assuring us she desperately needs help. I love her, of course, not only for her character design or the fact that she's funny, but for the fact that she somehow manages to avoid telling us anything concrete about herself. I don't think that this is done because Jane is not a character and is supposed to be a player-insert (that may play a part in it but y'know, that's just the nature of these kinds of games to a degree); she very much so is a character. She knows these phrases and these small courtesy things that no normal person who WASN'T integrated into this fantasy world would know. Maybe she retained only some of the past memories that her villainess self had, but truly... how could she remember those, but not her fiancé? Not the novel she is in? How can she know she is the villainess with certainty, at all, given she does not remember the book, the plot of said book, nor any of the other characters that well? She only knows someone is out to kill her, and that we must save her. Her weird integration with the world as well as the dissonance she presents with it at the same time is suspicious; she's very mysterious in that regard.

Perhaps I'm biased. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough. It might be that I'm missing something entirely. Somehow my suspicion/theory, even to me, feels like it's somewhat misplaced. That something is up is clear, but whether there's evidence to support anything is a whole other thing.

But somehow I'm inclined to believe that... Jane is not as forgetful as she might think she is. And that whatever happens to her by the choice of the player (who you romance, what kind of ending you get, what kind of choices you make, how you survive based on your deductions in the mystery, etc.), it always will tie into something she wanted to be. That us controlling her to a certain kind of destiny, is something she wanted to be, but never got the chance to be.

That we might guide her towards a destiny she actually deserved, rather than the one she has gotten.

[ Lmao I have so many more thoughts about what exactly makes a villainess but like... if the LIs/ROs/MLs or whatever you call them are all deconstructions and reconstructions of their specific tropes... Then isn't Jane also one? Shouldn't she be, at least? If she never was a villainess, then what makes her be one? If she was a villainess, what changes should she undergo in order to become a hero? And if she is neither... Or cannot remember whether she is clearly... What truly discerns her as a villainess?

I have so many more thoughts and theories about these people that I have to cover later because otherwise I'd have been sitting here for 2 hours trying to write all of this down somewhat understandably. If I actually had a plan for like any type of structure I might've not lost so much time on it. Will try to do that when it comes to the rest and all. Might also opt for smaller paragraphs lmao I genuinely hope I'm not overstepping something by doing this??? If the developers see this and go like "okay maybe don't", I'll take it down fjkdsjfklds. It's not like I'm dead set on sharing this if it's for whatever reason not good for business or something. ANYWAY THIS IS GETTING ABSURDLY LONG. Hope you enjoyed my rambles; until next time for the rest of them! ]

#savethevillainess #janeneville #idk what else to tag this? these are just theories and analysis of what is already shown to us #also personally? based on the announcements from blpp (that's my acronym for you guys as of right now; lemme know if you'd prefer another) #the secret mystery woman that has yet to make an appearance? 100% the OG FL. #but that's just what I think. I can't fit it in anywhere else #there's also the possibility that this mystery woman is like #some magical creature that actually knows something about the fabric of this fantasy world #and how these mysterious things all work and whatnot #like Servant does.... Servant is so suspicious and everybody knows it #but yeah!!! onto Edmund next like... later #I'm already behind on my schedule lmao #my plan is to make one of these per day #so that when the 16th comes around I'll have Ben's post up #and also be able to ask questions about him ig because I need to get the answers people okay #he's my favourite!!! Ben Buren guys!!! Come on!!! He is there!!! HIS BIRTHDAY IS SOON #and I must know all the secrets this man is hiding okay #I MUST KNOW!!!

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777：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ffe3-33P5)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 12:04:26.98 ID:xeG174q10

東日原～蕎麦粒～川苔～鳩ノ巣駅は何度も歩いたなぁ

川苔から眺めると凄い長い距離を歩いた気になる

今はもうその体力ないかな

778：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7f37-o9lY)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 12:09:01.05 ID:2fwm1hJ10

奥多摩スレで蕎麦粒山ってあんまり話題にならないですね

他に比べるとマイナーなのかな

自分も登ったことないですが

782：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ffbe-wZxC)：2023/11/17(金) 12:49:43.33 ID:pWloP+8x0

>>778

>>777のルートで三ツドッケ通って二度ほど行ったけど

蕎麦粒山手前の峠で埼玉側のダムから登ってきた二人組と話したことあるよ

多分ピストン

783：底名無し沼さん (ｽｯｯﾌﾟ Sd9f-33P5)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 13:10:00.12 ID:Ne/yeLzJd

蕎麦粒山から川乗橋バス停の方に降りる道が凄い嫌だった記憶。二度と通りたくないと思った。

>>782

そうそう、飯能の外れのダムから来る人いるよね。

779：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1fbd-BCWt)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 12:33:06.00 ID:n0ZXIrr20

蕎麦粒山は奥多摩からだとだいたい１０キロ超えの山行になっちゃうからねえ

東日原、鳩ノ巣、鳥屋戸尾根の３パターンやったけど

鳥屋戸尾根はいちおう破線ルートだし

秩父方面の北から登るコースは行ったことないけど、そこくらいじゃないの短いのは

781：底名無し沼さん (ｽｯﾌﾟ Sd1f-Blpp)：2023/11/17(金) 12:42:53.99 ID:rLWImlbUd

秩父側だと、熊倉山経由？

でもあそこは破線で危険だから、有間峠かな

俺は棒ノ折山から蕎麦粒山行ったけど

日向沢ノ峰までのアップダウンがきつかった

804：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ff75-KplT)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 23:23:27.71 ID:zRPH8Yq+0

>>781

多分車で大日堂起点じゃない？

807：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1fc6-Blpp)：2023/11/17(金) 23:47:17.91 ID:eDS5lY+e0

>>804

へぇそういうルートもあるんだ

大日堂ってところだと、武甲山にも行けそうだな

785：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ffe3-33P5)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 13:32:10.55 ID:xeG174q10

蕎麦粒はそこを目標に行くんじゃなく通り道て感じなのかな

東日原～川苔のコースでトレランじゃないと、朝早く出ないとこの時期は日没との勝負になっちゃう

786：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ff6f-cJVT)：2023/11/17(金) 13:33:08.50 ID:HSCsTwaM0

仙元尾根から登るのが楽ちんやでw

倉沢から棒杭尾根からも楽ちんw

ほぼ登りだけの鳥屋戸尾根も楽ちんw

蕎麦粒山は静かやから割と登る

今はGPSあるから迷わん

昔は迷って酉谷山から熊倉山のルートで川浦谷渓谷入って遭難やたけど今はないねw

あそこ難攻不落の要塞やからw

崖やゴルジュで出口は１箇所だけw w w

勝手知ってないと生きて帰れないw w w

787：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1fed-Bd5c)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 13:57:48.95 ID:TIXGxyOB0

東日原から川苔に向かうコースの途中、踊平で林道に下りてしまうのが暗くなっても歩きやすいと思う

登り返しも少ないし

788：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1f39-EFnx)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 14:36:43.72 ID:CKlrxI5V0

雪の日に踊平のトンネルで焚き火をしたけど無茶寒かった

791：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1f9d-5PwW)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 17:02:00.82 ID:Bca/Lw2B0

蕎麦粒山は夏に行ったときアブの住処になってて残念だった思い出だけがある

793：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7f65-BCWt)：2023/11/17(金) 18:10:32.23 ID:kIgCZ+ST0

>>791

あそこは確かに夏は虫が多い

#引用 #登山キャンプ板 #奥多摩の山を歩こう

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683：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 9fe5-XI6K)：2023/11/15(水) 19:08:35.17 ID:7h/uCchy0

東京・奥多摩町の山中で登山客の男女2人の死亡確認…秋の行楽シーズン、山岳事故相次ぐ

https://newsdig.tbs.co.jp/articles/-/838616

697：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7fb0-BCWt)：2023/11/15(水) 21:30:26.37 ID:85sHiMvw0

>>683

川苔山は

698：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7fb0-BCWt)：2023/11/15(水) 21:32:44.05 ID:85sHiMvw0

>>683

川苔山は林道再開通後は、死亡事故の多いとこに鎖がしっかりかけられたのにあれでも落ちるんだね

もうどないせいっちゅう感じだな

登山道らしくなくなるけど手すりをつけるくらいしかないのかね

686：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1fda-Blpp)：2023/11/15(水) 19:43:02.46 ID:a6KKevaK0

川苔山も何気に滑落死多いね

687：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7f06-3Gjj)：[sage]：2023/11/15(水) 19:52:38.23 ID:Mz7MXJNA0

川苔山って、巻き道のほうは落ちたら即死コースだっけ？

701：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 9fb3-Fnvn)：[sage]：2023/11/15(水) 22:57:23.56 ID:Hp+axDyG0

川苔山は危険箇所あるよな

思いの他怖かったもん

702：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 9fb3-Fnvn)：[sage]：2023/11/15(水) 23:04:30.18 ID:Hp+axDyG0

そういえばこの前雨の日に御嶽山行った時に七代の滝で思ったけど、滑ったらあそこも氏ぬよな

氏亡事故発生の看板もしてあったし

滝の側に行こうとして川渡る時に濡れた岩の上で滑りそうになって川下見たら崖になってるし

703：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1fda-BCWt)：[sage]：2023/11/15(水) 23:19:38.83 ID:+2/H6xSP0

とりあえず低山といえど、５メートル落ちるところがあれば全部死ぬ可能性あるからねえ

704：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1fbd-XQl9)：2023/11/16(木) 01:11:25.69 ID:5agDXwC20

そう言う事だね。

ちなみに木に引っかかれば助かると言うのは楽観的すぎる。

斜度がキツイと引っかかった木でバウンドして

更にセカンド滑落が始まる。

打ちどころ悪くて気を失ったら

全身ぶつけながらずっと下まで落ちて行き氏ぬ。

運良く加速する前の早い段階で木に引っかかったら

全力でその木にしがみつくか何かを掴むべし。

715：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 9f3b-3sqs)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 08:12:33.99 ID:n7JCmhfv0

川苔山は細倉橋から10分ちょいくらいの谷の深い所かな

ここともう1箇所くらい危険箇所があるよな

716：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1ff9-lv/m)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 09:24:11.05 ID:JSzI3vpL0

川苔山の事故ってどっちのほう？

細倉橋から谷沿いの登山道に入ったところ？

それとも通行止めのときに使われてた林道のほう？

719：底名無し沼さん (ｴﾑｿﾞﾈ FF9f-BwEx)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 09:53:22.36 ID:e0y1u1UYF

>>716

詳しい情報は検索しても出てこないね

百尋ノ滝なのか林道なのか百尋ノ滝行くトラバース道なのか

下りで使ってたってだけ

ツイッター（X）なら出てるかも

721：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1ff9-lv/m)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 10:07:45.77 ID:JSzI3vpL0

>>719

調べてみたら滝の近くに百尋ノ滝山ってのがあって

そこへ向かう途中危険な箇所があるみたいね。

717：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7f24-XI6K)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 09:37:22.28 ID:qR2g0EeS0

川苔山の百尋の滝のトラバースは忘れたころに年寄りが落ちるからなぁ

720：底名無し沼さん (ｴﾑｿﾞﾈ FF9f-BwEx)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 09:58:12.29 ID:qOSqFlk0F

>>718

川乗橋からじゃなく他の道で行ったらそんな危険箇所はないと思う

獅子口小屋コースは通行止めのようだが

722：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ff6f-cJVT)：2023/11/16(木) 11:17:12.64 ID:ZDMDwXLu0

百尋ノ滝コースはこのあいだ歩いたよ

よく整備されてるから滑落ってよくわからない

滑落って歩けると思って体重かけたら足元の土がズルズルって滑ってそのまま加速度ついてどーにもならんっていうやつw

ワイが体験者w w w

723：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ffed-BwEx)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 11:50:47.07 ID:aoPh60W90

>>722

百尋ノ滝の先で岩場登る所あるでしょ

あそこやその先のトラバース道で谷側に滑っちゃうんだよ

……自分も似たような経験あるなら想像つくだろうに

724：底名無し沼さん (ｽｯﾌﾟ Sd1f-fZE2)：2023/11/16(木) 12:17:48.19 ID:MGSXfmPLd

滝への分岐点からすぐの傾斜のあるトラバースあたりは事故が多い箇所だったそうだけど新品の鎖が付けられてだいぶ不安は減ったよね

725：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7fb0-BCWt)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 12:33:56.88 ID:PPxAq+E40

もうここ５年くらいは落ちる人いなくて、新品の鎖もできてもうないだろうと思ってたんだけどね

やっぱり落ちる人ってのは登山道の歩き方が違うんだろう

726：底名無し沼さん (ｽｯﾌﾟ Sd1f-fZE2)：2023/11/16(木) 12:40:07.76 ID:MGSXfmPLd

まあでも川苔山のあの登山道だと1ミスか2ミスで即即死しかねない感もするから。

そう意味だと歩き方というか、登山道・行き先の山の選択ミス、戦略的判断ミスというべきか。

728：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ff75-KplT)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 13:27:53.46 ID:iNoO0q6H0

自分が登ったときはどう見てもピクニックで滝見たついでにという感じの家族がいたけどね

一番下の男の子がギャン泣きしてたんで覚えてる

729：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ff6f-cJVT)：2023/11/16(木) 13:31:22.00 ID:ZDMDwXLu0

渓流沿い歩くコースで良かったのは去年歩いた唐松谷林道やね

木橋がかなり朽ちてたから今年はどーだかね

橋が落ちてたら巻きようもないくらい険しいしw

あとは旧酉谷登山道やね

林道終着点から三又までのトラバースが超危険やがそれ以降は危険箇所なしw

小川谷を遡行した方がはるかに安全なのにw w w

730：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 9fcd-Fnvn)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 13:35:03.18 ID:rBNYDrKO0

でも川苔山はやっぱり景観の良さが奥多摩屈指だと思うんだけどな

例えば御前山とか惣岳山なんか殺風景だし

どうせ山で氏ぬなら北アルプスが良いです

733：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ffed-BwEx)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 13:45:50.75 ID:aoPh60W90

>>730

えっ川苔山は色んな所から歩けるのとどしっとした山容が魅力でしょ

山頂からの景色は富士山方面しかない、あと防火帯が多いからそれらからの景観が良いとは思う

鷹ノ巣山や酉谷山、雲取山からの景色は良いなーって思う

もう何年も酉谷山は行ってないが

738：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1fa9-EFnx)��2023/11/16(木) 14:46:32.55 ID:koUCZC9C0

>>733

川苔からの展望は石尾根方向かと

船井戸から大ダワへの途中から大岳方向

本仁田からが富士山だけかと

735：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7fda-5PwW)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 13:49:19.75 ID:1RFH1V580

川苔山怖いよな、初心者向けと言われている理由が分からない。

一番最初の方も川底に落ちて助からなそうな高所があったし

751：底名無し沼さん (ｽｯﾌﾟ Sd1f-fZE2)：2023/11/16(木) 18:21:00.89 ID:MGSXfmPLd

>>735

川乗橋のルートは初心者向けとは言われてないよ

分県登山ガイドでは2/5、

ヤマケイの関東百名山では3/5だよ。

どちらも高尾山が1/5あたりだかんね

736：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 9f21-jbSk)：2023/11/16(木) 13:51:13.79 ID:+6T1UjVx0

川苔山は危険…覚えたぞ

737：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7f7a-Pc2I)：2023/11/16(木) 14:32:12.10 ID:VThpcGJs0

普通の元気な中高生男子とかなら何の問題もないけれけど、運動不足のメタボな中年以上になると死の危険性が出てくるライン

739：底名無し沼さん (ｽｯｯﾌﾟ Sd9f-33P5)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 14:48:59.53 ID:zRFujnl4d

川苔山は何故か年輩の方に人気なんだよね。日帰り出来るから手軽に感じる？

741：底名無し沼さん (ｽｯｯﾌﾟ Sd9f-BwEx)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 15:01:27.53 ID:UZKplouOd

>>739

手軽でもないような…

駅から歩けるからそういう点では手軽だが結構きつい

鷹ノ巣山辺りと変わらなく感じる

750：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 9f81-B88l)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 18:12:46.73 ID:fmvZcyyW0

群馬の谷川岳もリフトで登れば初心者コースとかいうけど高さ5mくらいの鎖場が数え切れない位あって初心者は体力的にも技術的にも無理

752：底名無し沼さん (ｽｯﾌﾟ Sd1f-fZE2)：2023/11/16(木) 18:25:20.78 ID:MGSXfmPLd

>>750

天神尾根なら2/5相当でそこまで言うような鎖場でないでしょ

西黒尾根で3/5で関東百名山では川乗橋コースと同評価

753：底名無し沼さん (ｽｯﾌﾟ Sd1f-fZE2)：2023/11/16(木) 18:30:05.97 ID:MGSXfmPLd

まあでもまるっきりの初心者で天神尾根というか谷川岳はやめといたほうがいい気も

755：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1ff9-lv/m)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 18:50:35.35 ID:JSzI3vpL0

自分が最後に行ったのは10年以上前で山頂標識がまだ四角い板

だった頃だけど、百尋ノ滝の先は足元がゴツゴツしている急な岩場が

あったってだけで特に危険は感じなかったかな。

登山道がうっすら積もってるときだったが。足毛岩方面への分岐も分からなかった。

ちょっと鈍感過ぎるのかもしれん。

2014年頃だったか大きな台風が来て当時とは変わってるのかもしれんが。

756：底名無し沼さん (ｴﾑｿﾞﾈ FF9f-BwEx)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 19:06:35.14 ID:3XG+cGbIF

>>755

たぶん百尋ノ滝から続く片側切れ落ちてるトラバース道を怖いと思わなかったんだろう

登りで使って右側に落ちたら数十m落ちかねない

特に下りだと疲れてると勢いついて踏み外したりしそうだけどね

760：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7f48-tLIw)：[sage]：2023/11/16(木) 20:18:46.44 ID:KVjyRXn30

YAMAPのモデルコースのとこ、「逆ルートは非常に危険です」なんて注意書き前からあったっけ？

770：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7f04-TrAA)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 08:18:29.65 ID:kBWisswC0

川苔山、谷の方は通行止めだったから鳩ノ巣からしか登ったことないけど、そんなにスリリングなら行ってみようかな

川苔山とか鷹ノ巣山なんか、体力的には意外と厳しい山域だよね

771：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1f53-Blpp)：2023/11/17(金) 08:52:53.67 ID:eDS5lY+e0

本仁田山経由で川苔山行くのもいいよ

773：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 1f7a-TMOs)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 10:40:20.55 ID:YGuGjtkw0

>>771

大休場～鋸尾根はなかなか疲れるで

776：底名無し沼さん (ｴﾑｿﾞﾈ FF9f-Blpp)：2023/11/17(金) 11:30:03.23 ID:REEq1tM0F

>>773

個人的に、大休場尾根に着くまでの急登がキツかった

772：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 7f06-3Gjj)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 09:29:04.41 ID:a9r7LhKG0

川苔山は危険だから行かない

奥多摩はいつも、安全安心な石尾根で雲取山に行ってる

777：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ffe3-33P5)：[sage]：2023/11/17(金) 12:04:26.98 ID:xeG174q10

東日原～蕎麦粒～川苔～鳩ノ巣駅は何度も歩いたなぁ

川苔から眺めると凄い長い距離を歩いた気になる

今はもうその体力ないかな

913：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 22a6-f5/H)：[sage]：2023/11/23(木) 18:20:11.64 ID:SAGiRtgk0

https://www.yamakei-online.com/mt_info/info_detail.php?info_id=1066

ヤマケイオンラインにこの間の川苔山の遭難も含めて冬場の奥多摩登山の注意がまとめてあったわ

要約すると・・

〇川苔山は川苔橋から取りついて山頂をへて鳩ノ巣駅方向に行くのがオススメ

〇百尋の滝のトラバースや岩場は下りで使うのは危険

〇日没が早くなったので15時までに下山

〇奥多摩駅に11時頃の到着で山に入るなんてもってのほか

〇ヘッデンはもとより雲取山は要チェーンスパイク軽アイゼンの時期になってる

だそうです

914：底名無し沼さん (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ e966-tE+F)：2023/11/23(木) 19:06:38.83 ID:EqwM4O0x0

百尋の氷瀑は午前10時頃までがおすすめ、寒気が強ければ

午後2時頃まで残っているけど毎日落ちて暖かい日には凍らない

#引用 #登山キャンプ板 #奥多摩の山を歩こう

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