#bc theyre literally just a second gen group in a fourth gen trenchcoat

[sanstropfremir]

do you think newjeans is an sm group (or could very much be one)? i remember when they debut, a lot of the reaction was of that. which is only normal considering newjeans' ceo was a large factor as to why sm is sm.

people point out the members' visuals as sm but hybe is relatively a new company so what holds as their standard is hard to define for now. (taeyeon/irene + kangta/jaejoong/s*won as clear examples of an "SM face"). also, i sometimes forget that some groups are under hybe because there are so fu-cking many now and they're going to debut like 4/5 new groups next year. it literally does not make any sense to me.

other than that, i don't really feel like newjeans gives off an sm vibe? i feel like it has a lot to do with the training system and what each company emphasizes on. it seems that newsjeans is gonna be more dance-focused like all of the other hybe groups. sm groups usually have a distinct vocal color - despite being under the same company, each group holds their own.

slkdjflskdfjslkdfj they are NOTHING like an sm group. like you said, sm has very specific branding in terms music, sound, and visuals, and also in HOW they construct their groups as well. i said it in ask a long time ago, but sm is the only company where i can say that they have a distinctive methodology of how they assemble a group and who has what positions/fills specific archetypes. although a lot of their artists are what would be considered 'all rounders,' sm groups have very specific positions that artists are meant to fill according to how they are assigned and there isn't a lot of deviation from that in group context. there's very little confusion as to who the main vocalists/dancers/centers are. hybe has more of a.............egalitarian approach (well, that's what it translates to, i don't think that's what they intend) where they expect everyone to have an equal level of performance skill and bill groups as being 'performance' oriented, but then they don't have anyone else in a strongly defined other role. like how do you have an obvious main dancer when your whole group can sort of all pass as main dancers? how do you tell who the main vocalist is if you don't have any strong vocalists taking the bulk of the lines and exercising their park n bark privilege? i couldn't tell you what the position of any of the girls in newjeans is unless i looked it up, but i could immediately tell with aespa.

the only thing they have in common is that they have a similar approach to aesthetic branding, and that's literally bc it's the same person doing both.

#kpop questions #newjeans w #i know there are a lot of kpop fans out there but sometimes y'all come at me with 'things ppl have said' that i've never heard before #and it makes me go 'hm i guess i have curated my kpop based social media feeds very well' #feels like im peering over the fence of my garden like where tf r u guys hearing these things lskdjflksdjflsd #not to bang on about the importance of positions in kpop again but theyre SO important #they give you a baseline to establish about the idol without actually having to KNOW anything about them #the formula works! there was a reason every second gen group was shaped like that! #there def are still non sm groups that are formed based on old school positioning but not as many. like tan for sure #bc theyre literally just a second gen group in a fourth gen trenchcoat #and like. p1harmony? i barely know anything about them but i can tell what everyone is #oneus has a rep for being a performance group but they have clear positions still #even with a.c.e who's also a performance group its still super clear who does what #part of the problem is choreography also! 4th gen choreo is too intense now! #and it often doesnt 'feature' a main dancer in the same way that it used to #the vocal colour of sm groups comes from yoo youngjin! he's their original vocal trainer and he's probably sm's oldest employee lol #and a lot of the 'typical' sm songs were produced by him #most other companies don't have as distinctive of a vocal presence bc they just havent had the time to establish it #also important to remember that hybe has bought out a bunch of preexisting groups and there's no way to maintain consistency that way #text #answers