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trashtank · 3 months
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Valentine's Subordinates Available here!
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antinousmondragone · 8 months
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Steel Ball Run, Civil War arc (Hirohiko Araki)
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qusmiri · 2 months
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oldies (some of) sbr minor antags
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dinkipinki · 9 months
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Finished making designs for the subordinates/minor antagonists for this silly AU, planning to make more later on but for now have a bunch of "Kens". :]
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right-there-ride-on · 2 months
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Deciphering the Civil War Arc
I will openly admit that even on my third readthrough of SBR this is probably the arc I had the hardest time grasping. It's clearly thematically rich, but what, exactly, is it trying to say? This is my attempt to better understand what the hell is happening in this stand battle.
I'll start off with a little bit of Hot Pants and Johnny, because their parallels fascinate me.
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HP revisits the idea of 'sacrifice', one of the most prominent themes in SBR (brought up even in a light way during the very early chapters, when we see Gyro must choose between what to carry with him into the race, tossing aside whatever he decides not to take.)
Notably, Johnny and Gyro just had another arc dealing with the idea of 'sacrifice': Sugar Mountain. Johnny has already sacrificed the corpse parts to save Gyro (quite a few times, actually). The difference here is that the sacrifice is no longer governed by an equivalent exchange.
We know HP began collecting the parts for the Vatican in order to try and do something that would earn them 'forgiveness' for the death of their brother. Now, under the effects of Civil War, it's shown that the 'sacrifice' of the parts (to a supposedly 'larger cause' (namely Valentine, though this could be substituted with the Pope)) demonstrably did nothing to alleviate their personal guilt. How awfully Christian. HP advises Johnny to hold on to the corpse - if giving up the corpse parts to a larger cause did nothing, then perhaps holding onto them will unlock the path to forgiveness - but before the conversation can continue HP's guilt quite literally begins to suffocate them.
We now introduce the idea of not only 'sacrifice', but 'sins' and 'purification'. Guess the Christian influences aren't only aesthetic after all.
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Of course, it's 'pure water' (holy water) that can purify one's guilt (guilt being the end result of committing a sin).
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Now the idea of 'sacrifice' is being correlated with the ideas of both 'sins' and 'guilt'. A sin here is, essentially, the idea of 'sacrificing' for an unworthy cause (e.g. killing someone for a selfish reason).
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Chapter 56: Civil War (Part 1)
We cut to Gyro encountering Axl Ro and Civil War. These are Civil War's first words, which tells us something about the theme of the arc. The question being posed is, put simply: Are your sins ('sacrifices') worth the guilt you now carry?
SURPRISE STARPANTS PARALLELS:
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HP too is seeking the corpse parts to find forgiveness (to bring their 'negative' up to 'zero'!). There are some differences worth noting: HP kept the cause of their brother's death a secret, while the cause of Nicholas' death was quite literally shouted to the entire staff by Diego. The guilt ate at them inside, so they turned to God to find forgiveness. Johnny, meanwhile, pretended not to give a fuck about anything to avoid being constantly told to his face by George that his brother's death was his fault. HP hid among the holy while Johnny drowned in debauchery. But both of them seek forgiveness and some sort of return to normalcy, which they both believe can be achieved through the corpse. Through the corpse, all 'sins' can be forgiven - even sins committed in the corpse's name (think of all the people killed in the corpse's wake, noted by Valentine in Chapter 86: Ball Breaker (Part 3) - he literally calls Johnny a sacrifice!)
HP's backstory is immediately followed by the return of Johnny's own ghosts - he himself says that he's haunted every night by his guilt, manifesting inside and outside of dreams as Danny. Yet, even though Johnny claims he can shoot it (put his guilt behind him), we see that he continues to waver. Johnny, like HP, is caught between selfishness, guilt, trauma and redemption.
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Johnny's illusion via Civil War is literally Nicholas parroting back the rhetoric about his death that George and Johnny believe about Johnny himself.
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Chapter 57: Civil War (Part 2)
Ok, manifestation of trauma and guilt is here. How do we beat it? Jesus Christ himself gives Johnny some extremely cryptic hints.
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We'll round back to this. I'm not even sure my interpretation is correct, but hey, that's what this whole exercise is for.
'Pure water' (holy water) only works for a while. Guilt (in the form of Danny) continues to hound Johnny, while HP and Gyro are literally being suffocated by their own. Furthermore, even once Johnny confronts what he perceives to be the source of his guilt (manifested via Civil War), we see that killing Axl Ro does nothing but strengthen Civil War, because in order to 'purify' himself of his 'sins', Johnny has sinned once again (by killing selfishly). The guilt thus compounds, unloading Axl Ro's guilt onto Johnny while Axl Ro, through the 'sacrifice' of his life (generally seen as the most selfless act one can do - think Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, which I'm sure the location of this arc is a reference to), is the one actually purified.
This is not a condemnation btw I think Johnny should be allowed to kill whoever he wants.
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Chapter 58: Civil War (Part 3)
Axl Ro, through the 'sacrifice' of his life - or, more accurately, through having the resolve to sacrifice his life - is the one to achieve purification. Someone committed the ultimate sin against him, leaving him 'purified'.
He even spells it out for us:
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The pursuit of the corpse has caused countless casualties. Those who were 'enemies' to Johnny and Gyro were 'allies' to Valentine. It really does come down to perspective. Anyway, the point is, Civil War has now condemned Johnny as the ultimate sinner. 'His' guilt (Axl Ro's) begins to quite literally start tearing Johnny apart.
Jesus again warns Johnny:
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Jesus essentially guides Johnny through his trauma, helping him understand that he’s worthy of forgiveness and thus deserving of healing - but only if he himself has the resolve to move forward (and fight for the corpse). It's quite interesting that Jesus appeared to Johnny instead of, you know, the person of faith in the next room. Could it be because, as Johnny implies in Chapter 56: Civil War (Part 1), HP hasn't 'truly' devoted themselves to God, but rather is using religion to try and alleviate their guilt (because it turns out they were not actually gathering the parts purely for the Vatican, but also for themselves)? I can't say. I'm not well enough versed in theology to even begin unpacking that. Anyway, Jesus helps Johnny understand the truth of his trauma, and the 'sins' he supposedly committed against Nicholas and his father. Prior to the confrontation with Axl Ro and his vision of Jesus, Johnny even states, "I didn't throw him away! You threw me away! You didn't even come to my races! You didn't even come to see me in the hospital when I got shot!" (Chapter 58: Civil War (Part 3))
Some part of Johnny already understood he was unfairly blamed for Nicholas' death, but that's still guilt (his greatest 'sin') that he's carried with him up until this point. His heart is wavering because some part of him doubts he's even worthy to have the corpse parts - doubts he's worthy to be forgiven. But with Jesus' final warning, Johnny finally understands that Nicholas' death is not his burden to bear, and he no longer wavers on what must be done. He resolves to complete the corpse and be 'purified', even at the 'sacrifice' of his life.
Still, we're in the middle of a stand battle. Johnny is still under the effects of Civil War, but this guilt isn't his. Axl Ro is the one running from his guilt, his sin, his sacrifices. He allowed a massacre to occur in exchange for his own life - hardly an equivalent exchange. He's in the one in possession of the corpse, but he is unworthy of it.
Axl Ro becomes so enraged at the thought of someone like Johnny touching the corpse that he 'sacrifices' Johnny in order to keep the corpse to himself - thus committing the ultimate sin and condemning himself once again.
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Chapter 59: Gettysburg Dream
Johnny, however, has been purified. We see through Axl Ro's comments and panic what kind of person he really is. He looks down on Johnny, calling him 'trash' and cursing him out (while holding the Holy Corpse!) This is a common theme is Steel Ball Run. We see it with Blackmore and later Valentine too - each of them proclaims themselves the only ones worthy of the corpse. Why? Well, their goals are loftier than Johnny's, better by default simply because they claim it's for a noble cause. Their sins should be forgiven because they did it in the name of good.
Yet, from what I know of the Bible, Jesus wasn't the sort of person who would have accepted that argument. In fact, Jesus was well-known as a miracle worker and man of the people. He probably would have much preferred healing a disabled man to helping a man kill a young girl (Blackmore), aiding a Confederate soldier (Axl Ro), or making one people's superior over others simply according to which nation they belong to (Valentine).
SBR ended with the corpse locked away, everyone left alive concluding such a thing shouldn't be in the hands of anyone. So, despite Gyro and Axl Ro's protests - is Johnny threatening to destroy the corpse truly a bad thing? Does anyone really 'deserve' the corpse at all?
Should anyone truly have the power to decide who deserves to be forgiven? To decide which causes are just and which ones are not? To decide what peoples deserve the right to good fortune?
To decide who has worth and who doesn’t?
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In the case of Nick's death, Johnny was not guilty. In the case of collecting the corpse parts and being willing to kill to keep them? A little blurrier, but by examination of the text we see that, a majority, if not all of the time, Johnny and Gyro only kill in self-defense. It's not really a 'sacrifice' (sin) then, but an equivalent exchange - someone attempted to take their lives, and that person's life was taken instead.
Notably, self-defense (or rather, the protection of another) is the same excuse Valentine uses at the end of Chapter 59: Gettysburg Dream, and we see that he is free of the effects of Civil War.
I think (and this is a pretty big I think), Civil War's themes culminate in this: You cannot earn forgiveness as long as you deceive yourself about your sins. Whether the guilt is yours or forced onto you by somebody, you need to understand it. Forgiveness will not be achieved through sacrifice and sinning, but by being able to look yourself in the mirror and be okay with what’s happened to bring you to where you are.
To put it simply, don't run from your guilt / ‘sins’ (as HP did through the church, and as Johnny did when he shot anyone but himself) and don't blame others for your mistakes / guilt (Axl Ro). The only way to be truly ‘purified’ of your guilt is to have grace with yourself and find the resolve to move forward.
Civil War, the arc and the stand, is about overcoming trauma, forgiving your mistakes and accepting redemption.
I am totally open to discussing this further, as even now I am not so sure about this conclusion. This was just my reading and I'm very open to hearing that of others!
Thank you for reading.
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jjba-smash-or-pass · 1 month
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andrenation · 4 months
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LAST BATCH OF ANTAGONISTS ~
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YAYYY I’M DONE WITH MOST CHARACTERS 😊😊❤️❤️ ONLY 2 CHARACTERS LEFT AFTER THIS!! ( soundman pocoloco I’ll do them after I sleep )
I’m so excited I got through what I thought the hardest part would be… all the extra stuff barely matters to me right now, I just need BASIC SHEET!!!!!!!!!😡😡
Anyways yeahhhh I’ll show you some extras soon!!😊😊❤️
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slumbrrrs · 4 months
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hi i’m back (vanishes for a few more months again)
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ceylon-good · 1 year
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Good jojo
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meowhawkk · 1 year
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Axl RO; coloured this sketch from 2021 fiiinally damn, this is for my sbr au :]
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th3rabbit · 9 months
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bodydoublegame · 9 months
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does beck know that it's another person in sawyer's body?
Yes, Beck will know. The only ROs who don’t know are Hawke, Axl, and possibly Solana!
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illym · 3 months
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Bridget is so damn cute here. So is Axl.
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Cleaned & original comics under the cut, along with my pains translating.
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Why are they all slanted........ Or maybe I'm just bonkers. I tried fixing this one, but I think it's even worse now. I'm giving up. This one posted itself when I was adding an extra screenshot... What a shockingly painful comic.
Anyway, you see that character there, in the fourth panel?
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This character took me like two weeks to find. Holy crap. I first saw it in a different comics title. No OCR reader could pick it up, none of my friends who know Japanese characters could figure out what it was... I was starting to wonder if it was the author's personal created character [ like when someone in English says 'fantabulous' or something else, where it's only really understood by someone who can pick up context clues ] and would make the comic untranslatable, but then I saw it here AGAIN.
I knew they were different authors, so it was obviously a character that should be commonly known enough to be known by character recognition software. But I tried three different OCRs, all of my friends...
Finally, I went ahead and asked a friend of a friend's grandmother (native born Japanese) to please tell me what the character was. She did (and also translated the sentences I gave to her as examples of its usage which was extremely kind of her). The character is...
[ ロ ]. [ ロ ].
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Ro.
They look completely different. Man if it wasn't satisfying to finally figure out. Actually, looking at the stroke order on wikipedia, I can see how the version in the comic came to be... But man if it isn't still evil.
As always, if you understand Japanese and want to retranslate this comic, feel free to send me a message with the new translation and I'll update it and credit you.
Also, Axl is saying [ あだだだ ] in the second panel, but I can't figure out what it means.
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Wednesday, April 17th, 2024;
AXL'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE HAS JUST LAUNCHED‼️
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#GNRNEWS
M. 🌹
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neopronouns-list · 4 months
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I know youre super busy- But if you check in, could you perhaps suggest some mechanical pronouns? I use Cog/Cog/Cogs/Cogs/Cogself - But I havent been able to find any other pronouns similar to them and such-
sure!! mechanical pronouns, here you go! o7
\/ belowww the cut (:
cog/cog/cogs/cogs/cogself
co/cog/cogs/cogs/cogself
gear/gear/gears/gears/gearself
ge/gea/gear/gears/gearself
ge/gear/gears/gears/gearself
sprocket/sprocket/sprockets/sprockets/sprocketself
spro/sprock/sprocket/sprockets/sprocketself
spro/sprocket/sprockets/sprockets/sprocketself
chain/chain/chains/chains/chainself
cha/chain/chains/chains/chainself
grease/grease/greases/greases/greaseself
gre/greas/grease/greases/greaseself
gre/grea/grease/greases/greaseself
grea/grease/greases/greases/greaseself
link/link/links/links/linkself
li/link/links/links/llinkself
li/lin/link/links/linkself
lin/link/links/links/linkself
auto/auto/autos/autos/autoself
au/auto/autos/autos/autoself
mech/mech/mechs/mechs/mechself
mec/mech/mechs/mechs/mechself
rotor/rotor/rotors/rotors/rotorself
ro/roto/rotor/rotors/rotorself
ro/rotor/rotors/rotors/rotorself
valve/valve/valves/valves/valveself
va/valv/valve/valves/valveself
va/val/valve/valves/valveself
motor/motor/motors/motors/motorself
mo/moto/motor/motors/motorself
mo/motor/motors/motors/motorself
axle/axle/axles/axles/axleself
a/ax/axle/axles/axleself
ax/axle/axles/axles/axleself
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