#and seeing jews post stuff about the israeli hostages --

[smile-files]

oh yeah, i think it's important to differentiate between the ideas of a "jewish ethnostate" and a "jewish homeland", as a jew myself especially --

of course we deserve a place where we feel safe, a place that puts emphasis on caring for us and not treating us like dirt. but that is not the same as a place that allows ONLY us to be there. (and we are talking about a mass of land, not an affinity club or anything -- we're talking about somewhere people live. who gets to be a part of it is not something you should be policing on lines of race or religion.) we have no right to lay claim to land and force other people out of it. we have no right to a jewish ethnostate.

"oh but if there are any non-jews in our land they'll treat us badly like they always have!!!" no, that's just cynical nonsense. if anything, you're letting the antisemites win by agreeing with the omnipresence of their bigotry. yes, tons of people have been horrible to us. that won't get better by running away from them and hurting other people in the process.

also, it is very worthy of note that jews and their ancestors have lived in palestine, for a great portion of history in fact, but were conquered multiple times by multiple empires and expelled to the diaspora. of course jews want to live in palestine! of course! but palestinians are just as indigenous to the land as we are -- we have absolutely NO right to kill them and kick them out and say it isn't their home (which is exactly what so many empires did to us, in the same land no less).

endorsing zionism and anti-palestinian rhetoric, as a jew, is hypocritical, cruel, and wrong. let palestine be free, as they (and we) deserve to be. they are facing the same terrors we have; let us stand with them.

#melonposting #free palestine #and seeing jews post stuff about the israeli hostages -- #i know you want your loved ones back!! i know i know i know!!! #i would never wish that kind of pain on anyone -- to be taken hostage or lose a loved one to that. it is truly heartbreaking and horrible #and of course we have loved ones in israel in general. and of course we're so so so worried for them #but no matter what you think of hamas and what they're doing -- palestinian CIVILIANS do not deserve your hatred and genocide for it #these people just trying to live their lives like everyone else? these poor children orphaned in the blink of an eye? #THEY are monsters who deserve to be wiped off the face of the earth? look at yourself. good god. #and i'll admit. i haven't read as much as i'd like on hamas. for all i know they are horrible (i genuinely don't know) #but that gives you NO right to endorse the constant cruelty israel has been waging on palestinian civilians.

[2goldensnitches]

ngl since october i've been feeling very uneasy in fandom, like lots of other users in the ones im familiar in are propalestine which is fine until they start throwing dogwhistles around and reposting obvious misinformation about i/p and dehumanizing jews/israelis/zionists as if that does anything to help palestinians (meanwhile when politicians like biden actually try to help they're either ignored or accused of bizarre conspiracy theories that don't make sense with even basic knowledge about the conflict)

i was guilty of sliding down the rabbit hole myself bc i wasn't thinking critically, like oh, this blogger started reblogging some suspicious stuff like the "river to the sea" stuff but if i don't support it i'm Evil and Hate Palestinians so i reblogged it like the Good Tumblr User i wanted to be. i've had reservations about how weirdly people talk about israel, but they say its progressive and moral, and i fell for their words. in hindsight, i really should've known better than to take them at their word, and now i don't really reblog much about the conflict anymore bc holy shit people really showed themselves to be utterly vile about this conflict and i don't trust a lot of people here anymore

then people i thought were trustworthy started getting really mask off. one semi popular fandom account i followed reblogged jvp as a reliable source, but i later learned from browsing jumblr posts that jvp is actually really antisemitic and basically autism speaks for jews. and in addition they also reblogged stuff about how israelis are all Evil and don't deserve any sympathy for 10/7, which is just cruel. i couldn't associate w/ them in good faith any more. other fandom accounts i used to follow started reblogging some really stomach churning (but concerningly popular) posts such as one about how hamas treated the hostages "so well" and another about houthis supposedly attacking ships for palestine's sake. this and looking beyond my usual fandom circles really opened my eyes to just how toxic and ass backwards this was becoming, and how this kind of vitriol is spilling over into the real world and hurting jews while doing nothing to help palestinians or muslims affected by the concurrent rise in islamophobia. it's so nervewracking. now whenever i see fandom blogs post propalestine stuff w/ "river to the sea" in big letters i feel very wary that they might be hiding more dangerous prejudices under the surface. even those who do try to be more aware about the surge in antisemitism still can't help but put down israelis, dabble in conspiracy theories, and/or condescend to jews or occasionally their allies

honestly kudos to you for staying strong in these times. you're a lot braver than me and you and the rest of jumblr deserve better than this horror show

Thank you for the ask. I would just like to say that i don’t care if people support palestine and i don’t give a shit about the israeli government—i just want them to be normal about israelis and jews and not treat an actual war like team sports and fandomise this. Ideally people should want peace instead of thinking about innocent people in terms of a team they can root for while watching a match on the telly. Unfortunately, while the insanity didn’t start on social media, the current nature of the internet facilitated a really shit union between “activism” and fandom where more people are concerned about fictional antisemitic goblins than they are with real flesh and blood people doxxing jews and forming actual lynch mobs. They sloganeer for actual terrorist groups while ignoring the lives of palestinians and yemenis and lebanese and syrians and iranians directly impacted by them. All we can do is sit tight and hope more people come to their senses at least; if they don’t, then we shouldn’t waste time lamenting them.

#asks #israel hamas war

[aidenlydia]

Hey, just letting you know Jack Black isn't a Zionist, Zionism is the belief of Jewish self determination in a Jewish state. Unless he's said anything specifically about that, saying no civilians should be hurt and that Jewish people are afraid right now (true, antisemitic hate crimes have sharply risen) isn't Zionism, and equating that too Zionism is antisemitic and part of the justification for the harassment Jewish people are facing right now even if they aren't talking about what's going on.

It's good to talk about what's going on, but a lot of stuff is drifting hard into antisemitic dogwhistles and conspiracies and Jack Black should definitely be called out for his support of Autism Speaks, but not for saying Jewish people don't deserve hate and expressing concerns about all the civilians and the hostages. It might be helpful to talk to some Jewish folks about it too, even if you don't agree with them.

Jack Black is using the language of Zionists and that is worth criticizing.

1. Calls a literal GENOCIDE “nuanced and hard to understand” which is used by Zionists across the world (including my own country, which supplies Israel with tank ammunition) as an excuse to not call for a ceasefire.

2. Only talks about the images of kidnapped Israelis and attacks by Hamas, not a peep about the *well documented genocide* (doesn’t even use the word).

3. Calls Hamas terrorists - completely ignoring the 75 year long occupation, displacement, imprisonment and murder of the Palestinian people. (It’s ok when white people fight back against oppressors, but not when it’s Arabs)

4. Talks about the rise in antisemitism, but not the continued unaddressed and actively deadly Islamophobia.

These type of posts never focus on the deaths of the Palestinians and heavily criticize Hamas instead of Israel, despite Israel being the aggressor for decades. Yes, rising antisemitism is absolutely a problem and yes it’s the Israeli government that is to blame, not Jewish people. We know that. However that’s no excuse to be this incredibly one-sided and tone-deaf. Not when the Palestinians have been facing ethnical cleansing by an apartheid regime and are now on the brink of obliteration by both starvation and unimaginable amounts of violence, all while the world watches and supports it. Jewish people and Israelis aren’t the only victims here. Ignoring that is simply unacceptable. Jack Black is downplaying Palestinian suffering.

And I know what Jewish people think about this "war". I know Jewish people see this and call it an inexcusable genocide - that Israel started this long before October 7. You know how I know? Because they come to protests and make their stances clear. They aren’t afraid to speak up. This isn’t a Jew vs Muslim war, it never was.

#free palestine

[matan4il]

Daily update post:

Another five Israeli soldiers have been confirmed as killed during the fighting in Gaza. May their memory be a blessing.

Rocket fire into Israel continues, and we're once again seeing direct hits to Israeli homes. Thankfully, today no one was physically injured.

A recent survey, conducted after the Hamas massacre, shows about 70% of Israeli Arabs identify with Israel. Another poll shows about half believe the Israeli reaction in Gaza is justified. One more interesting finding is that the massacre has actually increased the importance of their identity as Israelis.

I mentioned in my post yesterday Asaf Hamami, who was killed on Oct 7 protecting kibbutz Nirim, and whose body is held hostage by Hamas. That Saturday morning, his 6 years old son Alon was visiting him at his army base. When the breach of the border fence started, Asaf kissed his son goodbye, and went out to protect the kibbutz. He didn't know at that point that the base would be attacked by Hamas terrorists, too. That his son would be under siege for many hours, and would eventually be evacuated, and the soldiers who would get little Alon out, would have to tell him not to look at the burnt cars and bodies spread out all across the road. Asaf didn't know it, but he was specifically targeted by Hamas terrorists, many of them were caught with his picture on them. Asaf was supposed to finish his service soon, his dream was to become a school principal. He's one of three Israeli colonels killed on Oct 7.

Yesterday, Israel presented at the UN some of the worst testimonies regarding the rape and sexual abuse of civilian men and women on Oct 7. The spokesman of the US state department also said officially what I mentioned to you many were whispering here, that Hamas broke the hostage deal, and refused to release the last of the women it's holding hostage, because it doesn't want the world to know what it has done to them.

France has frozen the assets of Yahya Sinwar, the commander of Hamas in Gaza, for half a year. I'm glad this step was taken, but I'm also wondering why only half an year. Will Sinwar stop being the mastermind behind the Oct 7 massacre in 6 months?

Most of the time, I don't get into the whole issue of fake stuff posted by Palestinians, because even if here a picture is AI generated, and there a vid is staged, it's obvious there are Palestinians killed in Gaza, and while some are terrorists, or directly aided Hamas, others don't deserve their fate. Still, when you come across stuff that is over the top fake, it has to be commented on, because it's a reminder that yeah, while some fake stuff is people unintentionally passing on misinformation (which can happen to everyone during a war), there are those who intentionally fake images, in order to emotionally trigger the world, and through such rage, force a narrative that only recognizes the Palestinians as victims (since Israel doesn't release the pictures of brutalized bodies to preserve the dignity of our dead), and erase the guilt of Hamas in victimizing civilians on both sides, by constantly diverting attention away from how Hamas started this war with the worst massacre and abuse of Jews since the Holocaust.

So here's just one fake vid coming out of Gaza, the woman in the first scene is clearly kissing, crying over and "mourning" a doll.

This is 27 years old Ofir Tzarfaty.

In fact, he turned 27 on Oct 7. He went to the music festival with his friends to celebrate his bday. He was murdered by Hamas, and his body was kidnapped to Gaza. The IDF managed to use the fighting to locate and retrieve the corpse, his family, friends and girlfriend got to have a funeral, and say goodbye.

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[roboticaspirations]

I don’t have Twitter anymore and anytime I (a Jew) would post stuff like this Zionists would tell me I deserved to cook in an oven anyway but I feel like I need to write this down somewhere, because I haven’t seen it mentioned and the fucking “no one should kill children, Hamas is bad” nonsense from the NPR crowd has me pulling my hair out. Israel keeps saying children in Gaza deserve death because they’re being used as human shields. They’ve said that every time they go on “preemptive defense” and it isn’t ever true, it always turns out to be a lie. What is true though is the children allegedly kidnapped / killed by Hamas ARE BEING USED ILLEGALLY AND STRATEGICALLY BY ISRAEL. The hostages allegedly taken by Hamas were on ILLEGAL SETTLEMENTS. The Kibbutz is and always has been an illegal settlement (4th Geneva convention, article 49). The children Hamas allegedly kidnapped were moved there by the Israeli government (sometimes from Israel, sometimes from Brooklyn) in an attempt to destablize and fabricate legitimacy for their illegal reign over the region. Those children are used as pawns by Israel every day. The thousands of children killed in the last two weeks by Israel are just civilian children slaughtered by one of the strongest militaries in the world. Every single Israeli on a Kibbutz is a war crime, a pawn brainwashed by a government that doesn’t give a shit about the lives of their own people and sees the Palestinian people as sub-human. Kids don’t deserve to be kidnapped but anything that happens to Israelis on a Kibbutz is the fault of the Israeli government, and they know it. The plight of their own citizens is a tactic, exactly like the tactics they (falsely) accuse Palestinians of using.

#palestine #free palestine #israel #genocide #settlement #Zionist

[fierceawakening]

It’s kind of creepily hilarious.

Almost everyone I see on tumblr is so anti Israel they say frequently that Israel deserved the attack, even including the taking civilians hostage bit. That it’s a European nicety to ask people politely to not commit war crimes.

Somehow though on Facebook, I read one article by a Muslim man who said “yes, most of us really ARE saying we want all Israelis literally wiped out, and after a lot of thought I’ve decided that isn’t great to want.”

I found that article thoughtful and interesting, but… since I clicked on it, Facebook’s algorithm is feeding me NOTHING BUT discussions of antisemitism and how every pro Palestine post out there is some leftist unpatriotic college student who wants all Jews dead. No nuance, no rethinking. One state solution, and that one state is… Israel.

I go from one to the other and it flips.

My point being not what side you should be on, but just:

Be REALLY CAREFUL what you take in on socmed about this. People are literally saying opposite things about the same events, and if you don’t have friends/mutuals/whatever the socmed calls it on both sides, you’re very likely seeing only one.

It’s really hard, because the death toll in Gaza climbs daily, to sit back and be like “I’m not sure about this that or the other.” People are appealing to emotion by claiming you have to decide you’re for the destruction of Israel immediately, that if you don’t throw all your chips in a genocide will be completed while you dither.

That’s powerful stuff. I feel it too.

But it’s pretty much never true that you don’t have time to make up your mind.

And pretty much always true that someone who says that is trying to get you to obey them now and not caring how you might break down emotionally later.

[mrmallard]

There's a lot I want to talk about regarding the Israel/Palestine thing happening at the moment.

On top of Palestinian support, I do believe that people are taking the opportunity to be antisemitic and I don't think that's acceptable. I saw it directly with an emotional pro-Palestine post I made where the first person who liked the post was reblogging pro-Israel posts and saying stuff like "who does Israel have to fear, Hitler?" with a bunch of laughing emojis. I'm still staunchly pro-Palestine, considering the long context of anti-Palestinian violence and an active ethnic cleansing effort against them which exists alongside Hamas taking hostages - but there are still people taking this opportunity to go full mask-off antisemite, and I disagree to the fullest extent with people who decide that's acceptable.

Like in my mind, there are two recent cases where strong condemnation against a large body of people and efforts to criticize an ongoing wrongdoing led to bigots empowering their bigoted opinions. That's the case of Uyghur concentration camps in China, and a rash of anti-Asian hate crimes in America.

Like I'm critical of the Chinese government for the persecution, detainment and crimes against the Uyghur people, on top of their false imprisonment of pro-democracy scholars and authors like Australia's Yang Hengjun, and purported cyber attacks against Australian universities for decades. Pro-CCP stooges will often try to discredit people accusing them of crimes against humanity by citing sinophobia - and the biggest issue is that from the largest proponents of anti-Asian bigotry like Donald "China Flu" Trump to the small, blue-collar bigots who've been conditioned to hate the Chinese people, there is a large, vocal crowd of people who are ready to use a big issue to say racist shit about China. Like there's an attempt to go after a totalitarian government, who actively suppresses its people, which is easily spoiled by a large enough contingent of people just saying bigoted shit about the Chinese people.

On a smaller scale, you had a rash of anti-Asian hate crimes being committed in America in the wake of COVID - and I saw people posting on GameFAQs, every day, that the perpetrators of these crimes were predominantly black. You had them playing up racial tensions between like Korean store-owners and black protestors during the LA Riots, and you had a lot of people coming out of the woodwork to use increasingly strong language to condemn the black perpetrators of anti-Asian hate crimes - to the point of deflecting and deferring from white perpetrators, so they could keep saying increasingly violent and extreme shit about punishing black criminals.

Good causes - protesting crimes against humanity in China and spotlighting bigoted violence against a racial minority in America - hijacked by racists and right-wingers and shit to be bigoted fuckfaces.

Like I said, I'm staunchly pro-Palestine and I'm incredibly critical of the state of Israel for the decades of ethnic cleansing and land theft from the Palestinian people. This is not a new issue, nor is this the first big broadcasted push of Israeli violence against Palestine in the past five years. It's fresh in my mind, and I wholly disagree with Israeli aggression against Palestine and its people.

I won't be a stool pigeon for bad-faith actors looking to share an antisemitic atmosphere, especially considering the Jewish protestors who are actively opposing Israel's actions in Gaza. Jewish protestors are getting arrested for standing up for the Palestinian people, and you have people trolling Jews about Hitler and the Holocaust. It's not right.

This is not "both-sides"ing the conversation; I'm vocal about my disagreement with Israel's actions against Gaza and the Palestinian people. I do, however, see an increase in blatant anti-semitism using this violence to prop up bigotry and to harass anyone of the Jewish faith they can find. But like my criticism of the CCP's actions against the Uyghur people and their control of Taiwan, I'm critical of Israel's violence against the Palestinian people; I have no inherent hate in my heart for the people of China or that culture, as I have no inherent hate in my heart for people of the Jewish faith and/or people within Israel itself who are against this violence.

But my criticism of the governments perpetuating that violence is very valid, and it's frustrating to see people take the opportunity not to highlight the actual issues and crimes and shit, but just to use what's happening to be bigots. It's unacceptable.

[dipdieddreams]

TW: More Israel Palestine stuff. How to actually support both sides.

For me Tumblr is a safe haven where I can be as nerdy and as honest as I like. Please please please use your discretion and DO NOT READ if it will piss you off, upset you, directly contradicts beliefs that are important to you. If you don’t have the spoons please don’t engage in all of this because it’s not worth it. I’ve had to see throwaway comments from blogs that I follow for my own pleasure that I have nothing to do with politics post uniformed, antisemitic stuff and it’s really upset me. Every author I love, every person I know except my immediate family and like two friends.

However if you want to hear what I have to say, read on.

If I have to read the sentence ‘x person is pro Palestine which gives me hope’

One more fucking time.

You can be both. You can support both.

The problem is the people who claim to are not. They do not understand that no it is not ‘the Palestinians have been destroyed under occupation for 70 years and don’t deserve this’

If you support both sides it should sound like this:

Hamas are a terrorist organisation using horrific, in humane methods of warfare against Israel and their own people. They are trapping Palestinians in an active war zone and are responsible for the severe poverty and lack of infrastructure that the Gazans live in.

Israel is fighting a war against an organisation that want all Jewish people annihilated. Their military operations are surgical and planned as fuck. They are working to minimise casualties as much as possible whilst Hamas are attempting to maximise the death and have somehow turned the liberal left over to their side. The IDF have made every effort to get Palestinian civilians out BEFORE the ground invasion. They haven’t actually done it yet because the human cost would be too great. They have to protect their own citizens and the civilians of the country who have repeatedly tried to destroy them over every single on of those 75 years, and long before that.

Gaza has fired more rockets into Israel, than Israel have into Gaza. A fifth of rockets fired from Gaza misfire and have caused casualties and death.

I’m not saying Israel are perfect or haven’t made a shit ton of mistakes. But if you actually support both sides you can see how fucking hard Israel are trying and how they’re being held to an impossible standard by the international community.

If you support both sides, you listen to Jews when they tell you what you are doing is antisemitic and don’t tell us to shut up. If you support both sides have the Magen David Adom charity link in your bio. If you support both sides you’ll entertain the idea that HAMAS does not seek peace, and that the chants of ‘free Palestine’ mean the destruction of Israel. You will include Jewish people in your activism.

If you support both sides you care about the hostages in Gaza. And you want them released.

If it makes you feel safe that someone is pro Palestine, then you need to question what you know and why you think that. What have Israelis done to you? What have jewish people done to you? Do you even know any?

I did. I learnt this in school, I studied it at uni, everywhere people tried to teach me what they believe about the situation. I researched and I learnt and tried to find a way to navigate this. And what I have seen is that the sides are not the same, the do not fight the same, they do not have similar goals, they have not treated their people equally and they are not held to the same standards by the international community.

But they do bleed, die, and suffer the same. If you really want an end to this, you will start by asking yourself why you care so much about a tiny ass country in the middle of nowhere thousands of miles away from you.

Sorry everyone. But it has to be said.

[matan4il]

Daily update post:

There's been talk about another hostage deal. I don't refer to that much, because so much of it is happening behind the scenes, is not being reported on, or is deliberately lied about to put pressure on one of the factors in the equation, I don't see a point in talking about it unless there's confirmation that there is a deal. That's what I did before, that's what I'll continue to do.

There's more than enough proof that Hamas used the hospitals in Gaza as bases for their terrorist activity, I've written about it multiple times, and yet the lie that Hamas did no such thing is SO big, and SO many people and organizations, which are considered reputable, were complicit in covering for Hamas' crimes, that every additional piece of evidence matters. Now we have the confession of a Gaza hospital director, who admits that he not only collaborated with Hamas' terrorist usage of his hospital, he actually joined Hamas, and was a member of this terrorist organization himself. He also testifies that Hamas used hospitals, because it considered them safe places (meaning, they knew the IDF is NOT going to attack there).

I mentioned in my daily post yesterday, that the Houthis' attempt at blockading Israel has become a threat to global economy. Today, the US has accordingly announced an international coalition of 10 countries so far (officially, it's reported that some countries will participate anonymously) to combat this terrorist threat from Yemen, funded by Iran. There's at least one Arab country that officially joined this coalition, Bahrain (one of the Arab countries that Israel has peace with). This reminds me once again of the First Gulf War. World order in regards to Iran is taking shape in front of our eyes. This is important stuff, with consequences much bigger and longer lasting than the war in Gaza, though very much connected to it (even if we won't feel them immediately).

Another drone from Lebanon infiltrated Israel's north today, it was intercepted by the IDF. I'll also take this opportunity for a reminder that rocket fire into Israel continues, even if I don't mention it in every update post. In the last 24 hours, many rockets were fired into Tel Aviv and central Israel.

A Hamas money launderer, in charge of transferring money from Iran and other countries to Hamas, money which fuels the organization's terrorist activities and fighting, has been killed in Gaza.

Actor Alec Baldwin was stopped by anti-Israel protesters, when he happened to pass by them in NYC. They demanded he condemn Israel, because apparently if you're a celebrity, you HAVE to have an opinion about every political subject in the world, and it's okay to harass you about it in your private time. That's not bullying if you're famous. But what's even more infuriating, is that the protesters implied Baldwin wouldn't condemn the Jewish state, because he works in Hollywood, meaning they repeated the age old antisemitic trope that Jews control the American film industry. These are the same people who make it unsafe for Jews to leave council meetings that discuss the war, without police protection. At what point do we call out this violent, bullying behavior, harming regular people, as an illegitimate form of protesting?

These are Amiram Cooper, Yoram Metzger and Chaim Perry. All of them are in their 80's.

They've been kidnapped by Hamas, which released a vid of them in captivity. The vid has not been published in Israeli media, as seems to have been the general policy when it comes to this part of Hamas' psychological warfare. I heard the familiy members (who obviously were shown the vid) of two of these kidnapped men. Both relatives said that all three men (who are from the same community) don't look like themselves, that they lost a lot of weight and seem to be in a bad shape.

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