Thinking about the Don Suave scene and what it means in terms of LGBTQ+ representation because my brain does nothing if not torment me with random topics to ramble about on the regular.
Anyway, I just wanted to ramble about why I like the scene but to get it out of the way - the scene can very easily be interpreted in so many different ways, and all of them are valid. I personally see it as Leo having at least some attraction to a man. And the following is an explanation of my own interpretation and thoughts on it and what it means especially for Leo’s portrayal in the grand scheme of things.
Long-winded interpretation under the cut!
Now, to start with, it’s important to me that in the scene Leo looks at Don Suave in the very beginning and then for the entirety of the rest of the time the man is on screen, Leo’s eyes are closed. Yet, in the end, he is still visibly enamored with Don Suave, happily cuddling up to him as he’s being carried away.
You can very easily interpret this as Leo being spellbound and that’s honestly super valid and I believe he likely was at least somewhat in the beginning, but considering how fast he looked away and how he never looked again, I personally think it makes more sense to read it as Leo just finding the man attractive, at least somewhat. (For the record, I personally headcanon Rise Leo as bisexual with a heavy preference for men, but I want to be blunt when I say that any interpretation is valid. Literally any. Ace, pan, gay, bi, none of the above or a mixture of something new literally all of it is more than okay and fair. Hell you could even interpret this entire scene as more romantic attraction than physical and it would still work. Anything goes!! Don’t bother people, guys, really.)
The main reason I take this scene to be at the very least LGBTQ+ adjacent isn’t just because of how it’s portrayed, but because of who Leonardo is. Not in terms of Rise of the TMNT, but in terms of the entire Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles™️ franchise.
Leo’s a character who, while changing with each iteration, has still at his core been around for decades upon decades as “the blue one”. One fourth of the team. He’s the one most are going to look at as the Leader, and oftentimes he is the one closest to having the title of Main Character. Not to say the others aren’t just as important, but Leo’s presence in the A plots of basically all TMNT media is often something very main character-esque.
And that’s very, very important to note. Here we have a Main Character of a prolific and decades long-running franchise distributed by a children’s television network. You can play around with his and his brothers’ characters all you like, but there is always going to be challenges to dodge around, especially since this was still in 2018-2019.
For example, you can play around with their designs so long as they’re color coded turtles, but their sexualities? Now that’s tricky.
“But what about Hypno and Warren?” Not main characters and also they’re Rise originals. They have a lot more room to play around with than a character like Leo does. But even talking about main characters in the franchise, you could arguably have an easier time playing around with Donnie or Mikey’s sexualities than Leo or even Raph, as (unfortunately) the former two tend to get more B plots, so they’d likely have had a little more leeway (still not a lot though.)
So, where does this leave us?
It leaves us in a place where outright stating and/or showing undeniable proof of Leo’s attraction to men is very, very difficult. So, workarounds!
Workarounds like the entire Don Suave situation.
To be honest, as left up to interpretation and lowkey and deniable as it is, this whole scene means a lot to me because of who Leo is as a character. It’s just nice when we get so see even the bare bones of representation with characters that have been such a large part of pop culture for decades, y’know? Even if more would be so much nicer, this is better than I thought we’d ever get for these boys.
And, again, literally nothing I’ve said is the only way to interpret it, I’m more than happy when people interpret media on their own honestly, it’s just something I’ve been thinking of lately and I was wondering if others felt the same way.
Whatever you think when you interpret this scene or Rise Leo as a whole, I just thought this would be interesting to think about, even if it was ramble-y, haha.
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I'm not sure if it's an intentional thing or not but
I've noticed that your Stanley doesn't have another eye? It's cool tbh but is there some kinda lore or whatnot that connects it?
I’ve gotten an ask about this before but I’ll answer this one too :3
Yeah it’s intentional, I (almost) always draw him with just one eye, but there isn’t really a lore reason for it.
In 2022 when I first started drawing tsp I characterized Stanley’s lack of identity and speech by only drawing him with one eye —To make him more of a blank slate nobody yk?— But as I started drawing him more and more I decided to give him his mouth back so he could express emotions more. (Basically because it was easier to draw)
But maybe in the context of the post-parable au it could have meaning. He, and anyone else, sees his second eye, while the viewer is an outlier. It could be a visual indicator to show that Stanley, despite his average looks, is not fully human. Because he wasn’t fully human in the parable, why would he suddenly be now?
More subtly, The Narrator also has inhuman traits hidden in him that also serve as a indicator that he is not of this world. Those might be revealed later though
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Hi, I wanted to ask, what are your personal hc for tbs caracters after the canon timeline? like what is caleb doing with his ability and did sam leave the am and do joan and jackson ever happen or is that too caught up in owen? what is damien doing and what about olivers arc? and where is chloe-
im sorry ill shut up now im way too invested in these caracters
no, never shut up! I love hearing from people who are invested in these characters!
this isn't something everyone knows, because it's hard to get the word out about things not on the podcast feed, but the technically last bit of canon TBS timeline is this planner that most of the characters write in for Caleb and Adam's graduation. there's not a ton of concrete information in that, but the broad strokes are that Caleb and Adam move to the NYC area, Frank and Chloe are back in Boston, Oliver and Frankie are friends, Frankie and Caitlin are dating, Oliver and Mark are...something, and Sam and Mags are also something!
I realize I answered none of your wonderful questions with that and...I''m sorry to say I can't! not because I don't have ideas, but because I don't like to publicly say much about the post-canon lives of the characters (no matter how much I emphasize that they're my HCs, I know that the creator saying something can still kill the fun for some fans!). sometimes I'll speculate/toss out headcanons with the Pals in our discord server but otherwise, I really like to leave it open for fandom to do whatever they want and to leave myself room should I ever want to go back in and do something in this universe (unlikely, but never say never!).
I'm sorry I can't give firmer answers but would love to hear your ideas for where the characters end up!
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Howdy everyone! Here I am excited to show you all John Dory’s design for my ‘Guardians of the Strings’ AU! Yes, he’s competent with a violin. Is he any good? The simple answer to that question is no.
A little bit of background information:
The amnesiac oldest of five brothers, John Dory has been with the Classical Music Trolls since he was eighteen, and over the course of twenty years he’s become Trollzart’s apprentice. He’s always seemed out of place in his new home (excluding obvious reasons), and longed to find the answers to questions he’s held onto for decades. One day, with the sudden appearance of an injured Rock Troll that looked familiar to him, John Dory’s questions may finally have answers. He is the assigned guardian of the Classical Music String, disguised as the accompanying string for his glove, gifted to him by Trollzart.
A new chapter of Guardians of the Strings is now up! Happy reading ya’ll!
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