#and i'm not gonna bring up the chanel styling but there's another scandal reference if you want one

[sanstropfremir]

....I have to ask..... what do you think about gidle song nude? The Marilyn Monroe inspiration was definitely there along with that jazz age sound in a way?? But man... I'm not sure what to think of it. Bc I can see what they're going for. The different shades of blonde remind me of red velvet ice cream cake era. I can see the message maybe about embracing sexuality? Something that exid would do in terms of messaging but way more obvious. Idk. It feels like soye*n is trying to make impactful songs which chart wise and album sale wise she does but it doesn't ever hit for me.

i wish gidle would actually do something that was worth the 'hype' that they get. i don't like the song but i've never liked a song from them so. the mv........it's complicated. there are actually a lot of good connections and ideas happening there, but the problem is that they just don't DO anything with them. like 90% of the mv is references to different types of 'scandalous' media or cultural touchstones, and from which ones they've chosen i can see that they're trying to make some kind of comment on the judgement and policing women's bodies and sexuality, but they don't really follow that through to anything meaningful. they themselves don't actually do anything scandalous, which, in my instincts, would be the logical conclusion in my brain. they just make references and call it a day.

the base format for the whole thing is vaudeville, which is pretty much the ancestor of burlesque and stripping; the opening moment with the pink velvet dress is just a knockoff version of marilyn's diamonds are a girl's best friend number from gentlmen prefer blondes; the cone bra is obvs a madonna reference; the cartoon is jessica rabbit from who framed roger rabbit; the book she's reading is (i'm assuming) walt whitman's leaves of grass; obvs also the marilyn white dress moment; also inexplicably there's a banksy reference too with the shredding frame. which was a scandal, but it's not at all related to gender or sexuality so i have no idea why it was included, unless they're trying to make the conflation between the female body and art as a bought and sold commodity, which.................well. there's better ways to handle that that make more logical sense. like clearly there was a creative team that had relatively lofty ideas, but you have to do something with those ideas. and they kind of set themselves up for failure in this instance, because they were clearly trying to make some sort of intentional statement (basically it wasn't just a spectacle piece), but you can't just reference a bunch of media and call it a day. you have to synthesize something new out of those references. that's the difference between why something like 2 baddies works and why this doesn't; 2 baddies makes something new from a ton of source material (literally in the case of the custom porsche too). it also isn't trying to be deeper than it is, yea it's based in a bunch of weird niche research but the mv isn't expecting you to know about the history of car manufacturing or art deco in order to appreciate the neon vomit chaos. it's there in order to give the visuals an underpinning logic. but if you don't know any of the references in the nxde mv, the theme means literally nothing. it's incomprehensible. they literally have to name some of the references at the end of the mv so people get it. and that's a cheap shortcut, instead of actually doing the work to make something that has artistic merit on its own.

#gidle w #kpop questions #like a lot of this mv explicitly hinges around jessica rabbit's ''im not bad im just drawn that way'' #but do you think a single kpoppie has seen who framed roger rabbit. or even knows who she is on sight? #tbh i think it's even a reach to expect ppl to know that scene from gentlemen prefer blondes at this point #idk like i guess its possible that they accidentally stumbled into the same themes since jessica is meant to be the same type of comment #but idk. i dont think they were smart enough to get there #and the animated/live action combo is like way too specific of a detail. esp with the style #also? extremely weird and racist to associate being blonde and pale with being 'nude' #and i'm not gonna bring up the chanel styling but there's another scandal reference if you want one #text #answers #like if they truly wanted to make the art/body connection what they SHOULD have done was referenced the marilyn warhol prints #not banksy. also who the fuck cares about banksy these days #like i hadnt heard that name in like five years at this point #like there's a ton of postmodern art references you can make here to talk about art market manipulation etc etc #like you cant just kind of vaguely gesture at the whole women/art thing without unpacking #bc it BOLD to make the inference that a certain type of person is bought and sold as a commodity????????? hello???????????? #anyways gidle made a thing i didnt like again. big surprise