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atopvisenyashill · 2 months
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There's this weird thing going on Reddit right now where people are claiming that legally, Rhaenyra children are not bastards. And I was wondering if you agree or disagree. I think that people are just making up their own canon lore at this point.
Well. Okay I think I’m about to give an answer that is a little spicy but when I get around to my ultimate point I think everyone is going to go "yeah it makes sense that's how you feel, that tracks." Let me start with a personal story to be extra annoying-
My mom, after separating from my dad, swore of marriage. Marriage derailed her life, it had derailed my grandma's life, so she decided that even if she truly fell in love again, she would stay unmarried because clearly marriage jinxes love. She met my stepdad and as he had been divorced three times (and bitterly each time too) he agreed. He proposed to her but it was really just a commitment thing - I promise I am all in on this relationship, and by wearing this ring, you promise too. He moved in. They had one of my siblings, K, and still remained unmarried despite pushback from a few relatives and friends.
And then my stepdad needed knee surgery. And my mom couldn't put a domestic partner on her insurance. So a week before my second sibling, B, was born, after my aunt finished teaching summer school for the day, on what was a random Thursday afternoon, we all put on some nice clothes, piled into the van, and went down to city hall where they got hitched and I cried while everyone made fun of me because their toddler was literally running around the waiting room, it was not a big deal! My parents were both wearing jeans!!! We went to Baker's Square after, not even a nice restaurant! Do you know how this marriage has affected K and B? Not even a little! Do you know why?
BECAUSE NONE OF THIS MATTERS.
There is no moral or biological difference between a child born in wedlock and a child born outside of it. If you put K and B's blood under a microscope and I didn't tell you the ages would you be able to tell the difference between them? Would you be able to figure out which one of my siblings is a bastard and which one is trueborn? No, you would not because the difference doesn't exist biologically, ontologicaly, ecologically, anthropologically, whatever ology you want to bring up, and I think what this fandom finds most frustrating is that there is also no legal difference because LAWS ARE MADE UP. THEY DONT FUCKING MATTER. THEY ARE MAN MADE. I need this fandom to kill the prosecutor that lives in their head and stop arguing over whether Rhaenyra’s oldest boys are ~really~ bastards or not. The “truth” of this is just as it is for my family - it’s completely emotional, situational, and dependent on the feelings of the people involved in it!
Alicent & Otto & Criston, in both the books and the show, have an ulterior motive to insist that legally Rhaenyra’s boys are bastards. They can talk about propriety and legality all they want, but not only were those boys raised and loved by Laenor & Corlys, the concepts of marriage & wedlock & legitimacy are merely tools used to keep people in their place, something those three are very aware of because Otto manipulates the law in order to cut Daemon out of the line of succession which is exactly what kicks off this conflict in the first place! Corlys & Laenor & Rhaenyra have completely different but still existent ulterior motives to insist that legally the boys are true born. They can talk about “well technically” and cite whatever law or precedent they want but again, this same insistence on their legitimacy is a cover for the fact that if they ARE admitted to be not Laenor’s, they all lose access to power.
Not only that, but both Rhaenyra and Alicent become insistent on these competing legalities because they are worried the other will kill their children. Alicent all but confirms that she would have killed them if Rhaenyra had accepted terms with her nasty comment about their deaths when Rhaenyra takes the capital, but Rhaenyra throws her own insistence that she won’t hurt her siblings out the window with b&c.
So yeah, people are making up their own canon lore here because both Otto and Rhaenyra are ALSO making up their own canon lore here. That’s the entire point. Both of these sides have their own agendas, their own very rational fear of the other, and instead of realizing they have to compromise just a bit to get out of the shitshow they’ve found themselves in, they escalate at every turn until they’re all dead and so are their dragons.
The point is - I think everyone is missing here that George is making fun of you nerds who spent all your time insisting they’re bastards or not and debating the legality ad nauseum. He has Stannis ranting about the sanctity of the line of succession and House Baratheon and everyone misses that Stannis is a fucking loser for this because the line started one generation ago and if he didn't want Robert overthrown by Cersei maybe he should have made sure Robert wasn't raping and beating her all the time!! It is the same exact thing here!! If they didn't want Rhaenyra to have bastards, they shouldn't have jerked her around as heir for years then trapped her in a marriage she resented to fix their stupid ass mistakes and if they didn't want the whole thing to escalate into a bloody war, they shouldn't have murdered Luke and Jaehaerys!! That simple!!!!
LEGITIMACY AND MARRIAGE ARE NOT REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hannobehrens · 7 years
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i was tagged by @leivangel​ my polish angel,  read it if you wanna know more about me i guess, don’t have much to do anyway
Rules: Answer these 85 statements and tag 20 people
THE LAST 1. drink: hot chocolate 2. phone call: mom 3. text message: yasmin!!! i’m counting down till the day she comes back but well. we cannot not talk @oblaks i mean i have your account but come back pls 4. song you listened to: lmao a song sung by JJ Lin (a Taiwanese guy) 5. time you cried: this week but i forgot which day 6. dated someone twice: no lah who wants me anyway 7. kissed someone and regretted it: ... 8. been cheated on: no 9. lost someone special: yeah?? ofc.. this year’s been v hard lmao 10. been depressed: i don’t think so lmao 11. gotten drunk and thrown up: no
3 FAVOURITE COLOURS 12. royal blue 13. green 14. black/purple (i can’t choose)
IN THE LAST YEAR HAVE YOU
15. made new friends: (what do you mean last year... 2017 or 2016) if you count tumblr... yes lmao; real life no 16. fallen out of love: no 17. laughed until you cried: i don’t really know, but probably yeah 18. found out someone was talking about you: not this year 19. met someone who changed you: people on here? idek 20. found out who your friends are: maybe 21. kissed someone on your Facebook list: 2017 no
GENERAL: 22. how many of your Facebook friends do you know in real life: i have no idea and i’m too lazy to check it 23. do you have any pets: not now 24. do you want to change your name: yeah sometimes i want to (especially my chinese name); my friends irl will know why 25. what did you do for your last birthday: exam 26. what time did you wake up: 7 something am lmao... 27. what were you doing at midnight last night: talking to ‘german anon’ jfdlkagjldksajflk, i forgot 28. name something you can’t wait for: this week to be over 29. when was the last time you saw your mom: yesterday 31. what are you listening to right now: some Cantonese singer singing? 32. have you ever talked to a person named tom: MY UNCLE 33. something that is getting on your nerves: leon goretzka to b*yern rumors 34. most visited website: tumblr/youtube 35. hair colour: black 36. long or short hair: i’ve always wanted to try short but i’m afraid lmao 37. do you have a crush on someone: idk anymore 38. what do you like about yourself: handwriting? lmao... 39. piercings: none 40. blood type: i actually don’t know, i think it’s O (sadly) 41. nickname: char/chip/orange 42. relationship status: kinda in a relationship with @johannesgeis​ 43. zodiac: gemini 44. pronouns: she/they (i don’t really mind..) 45. favourite tv show: ...... 46. tattoos: none rn i’m too young (illegal rn) for that but who knows; also my parents will probably kill me if i get one 47. right or left handed: fun fact: i was left handed until my mom forced me to write with my right (i HATE) 48. surgery: i can’t think of any 50. sport: volleyball, swimming, badminton, etc etc. not tennis. usually anything using arms/wrists. i mean funnily enough i can kinda throw the javelin and discus 51. vacation: i’ve been to quite a lot of places tbh! Canada (mainly the route from Vancouver to Calgary + Edmonton lmao, i mainly stay at Calgary) for 6 times? (relatives and all that), Australia (route from Sydney to Melbourne?), South Korea (Seoul x3), Japan (Osaka, and places in which i forgot their names), Philippines (Bohol, Manila), Thailand (Bangkok, Chiangmai), Singapore/Malaysia, China (Beijing, Shanghai, and places in the Guangdong province), Taiwan (Taipei, Kaohsiung)... yeah that’s probably the places i’ve been to 52. pair of trainers: a few pairs probably but i mainly wear a Puma one which is generally black in colour... it’s actually broken(??) though
MORE GENERAL 53. eating: i’ve eaten a bread today lmao i have no idea what i like the most 54. drinking: i can drink most things, trying to cut down on coke 55. I’m about to: see if there are any new youtube vids (Real Nimrod be PROUD) 56. waiting for: not bayern to win the bundesliga, freiburg (mad respect!!) to win the europa league qualifying round :) 57. want: a lot of things 58. get married: @johannesgeis when? 59. career: something to deal with sports, not much idea tho. mom wants me to work in the financial sector
WHICH IS BETTER: 60. hugs or kisses: hugs 61. lips or eyes: idk 62. shorter or taller: i don’t know, i just hate it when people (boys) taller than me tell me how short i am 63. older or younger: usually older 64. nice arms or nice stomach: arms? 65. hookup or relationship: relationship 66. troublemaker or hesitant: hesitant
HAVE YOU EVER: 67. kissed a stranger: no 68. drank hard liquor: yes 69. lost glasses/contact lenses: yes  70. turned someone down: lmao 71. sex on the first date: no 73. had your heart broken: ??? 74. been arrested: no 75. cried when someone died: yeah 76. fallen for a friend: who are my friends
DO YOU BELIEVE IN: 77. yourself: not really, sometimes yeah 78. miracles: sometimes 79. love at first sight: i still don’t know 80. santa claus: no 81. kiss on the first date: i’m asian 82. angels: devils
OTHER: 84. eye colour: very deep brown, black, idk 85. favourite movie: ......
i tag @mjhummels @johannesgeis @pre-season @hectorbaberin i’m just randomly tagging you don’t have to do it
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