#Besides the fact it was all the negative effects of. A hyperfix

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Oh to be fixated on moral orel again

#Those were good times #Besides the fact it was all the negative effects of. A hyperfix #And I was incredibly annoying

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France being pissed off for centuries upon centuries with england because he burned Joan is just too much of an exaggeration don't you think?especially considering the fact the French handed over Joan to the English to be burned, i think man like france does see nuance is such situation. Even if that wasn't the case giving that much important human mortality in midst of their unending life is too petty, and in canon he knows this very well, he made is peace and moved on. And englands fear of fire coming from this one human not his capital burning and being taken over multiple times is belittling the effect of English citizen suffering on england, the land and people would and should connect him more than this one part in history, albeit important and tragic, takes very little precedent to himself. Don't know I guess you just like France so you're giving him that much importance but some nuance should be applied I think.

I agree with you - however, I should note the French that were handing Joan over were Burgindians, a state that was currently supporting England at the time and she was put on trial and convicted of heresy by a Pro-English Burgundian; However, I agree with you that nuance would be applied...sadly, England and France lack quite a bit of nuance. England's fear of fire was *started* by Joan and progressively gotten worse, I mean...he *was* shoved into a firepit by Normandy. England also has other fears, that are more related to his people as you say. My autism for some ungodly reason hyperfixates on England out of all nations, so to say that I like France more than England is a bit odd? And besides, both are interesting nations who aren't really worse than each other to be frank. Also I feel like nation representations themselves are subjective. If they weren't, they wouldn't really be human. But they're swayed by negative biases and feelings and so on and so forth, because while they represent the people, they're also spirits unto themselves and I think France would be spiteful for centuries. I'd also argue it's not really about just Joan. It's about the fact he essentially turned on them for no apparent reason (in France's eyes at least which, again may I add, is subjective, and they expected that England would just chill in a few years) and the way England presents them in his narriative, to the point that Normandy's name is almost as interchangeable with France. Joan is merely a representation of all of that. Plus, England is quite a bit of a cunt to them, I was reading in a book about how the English burned and raided dozens of villages in France to the point where it may very well have turned some pro-English supporters into pro-France supporters cos they were really fucking fed up with the English raiding them like locusts. It's a complicated thing, could spend ages studying the 100 Years War tbh. Joan is merely the focal-point of their entire spat, because I think it was the point of no return. It was personal. England knew France cared for this person and England did it. Yes it was French people that handed them over to the English but they were Pro-English. They were Burgundians. So it's not like the Pro-French France faction handed Joan over, but the English allies who were french handed them over. And I've noted in my pinned post I don't take anything from canon, given that I don't consume any Hetalia content *aside* from fanblogs.

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