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unhalloa2 · 2 years
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this is gonna be a weird ask , but can you elaborate on the image you reblogged for akutagwa. the dog biting the man's hand ? i have theories to why you would put these two things together but it really just struck me and i thought it was really neat :D.
oh absolutely!!    his is gonna turn into a meta so stay tuned under the cut.
typically in literature,   dogs have many symbolic meanings.   for the sake of akutagawa,   i usually play on the following:
dogs as symbols of death
dogs as symbols of vigilance
dogs as symbols of loyalty
it’s not a secret akutagawa has a lot of dog related motifs to him.   most notably being a couple alias’ he is called in the manga.   [ black-fanged hell hound, ]   in my portrayal and visions,   serves to signify dogs as symbols of death.   [ silent mad dog, ]   serves to signify dogs as both symbols of vigilance and loyalty.   i’ll go into more detail,   now,   below.
DOGS AS SYMBOLS OF DEATH.
it’s no secret that in many classical mythologies,   death and canines go hand in hand.   i think it’s important to note that dogs have two rolls in death:   serving as death omens while simultaneously showcasing the journey from the land of the living to the land of the dead.   [ for example: ]   cerberus,   the three-headed dog that guarded the entrance to the underworld in greek mythology   ---   this also has ties to dogs as symbols of vigilance.   anubis,   the god of death from egyptian myth,   had the head of a jackal.   BLACK DOGS,   ESPECIALLY,   SEEM TO BE VERY SYMBOLIC OF DEATH.   black dogs are thought,   in some traditions,   to be denizens of the underworld.   akutagawa is surely no stranger to death,   as a dying man himself with the blood of countless others on his hands.   a manga panel is pictured below with a quote i find very relative to this.
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DOGS AS SYMBOLS OF VIGILANCE AND LOYALTY.
piggybacking off the previous image,   akutagawa ryunosuke is loyal to a fault.   and thus,   the port mafia’s silent mad dog was created.   one of the most notable classical uses of a dog’s loyalty i can think of occurs in greek myth,   that being odysseus’s arrival to his homeland after his wanderings, and meeting his old dog Argos, the only one who recognized him.   to put it shortly,   akutagawa took to dazai osamu like a dog sitting at the grave of it’s long since passed owner.   [ i recommend reading greyfriars bobby by eleanor atkinson for more on the imagery of a dog sitting at a grave! ]   and in doing so,   abandoned his sense of self worth.   not only does akutagawa serve as a watch dog for the port mafia,   his loyalty and need to prove himself leave him and his ability to be easily used for the benefit of others,   and to his own demise.   pictured again below.
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LASTLY,   BITING THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU.
akutagawa’s plot revolves around coming to terms with himself.   in order to do that,   akutagawa has to remove himself of dazai completely.   AKUTAGAWA HAS TO BITE THE HAND THAT FED HIM IN ORDER TO LIVE.   the more akutagawa begins to think for himself,   the more he finds confidence in himself:   growing to believe that he himself has worth outside of his special ability.   he has a long way to go,   but i think one day,   akutagawa will finally take his leash off.   or die trying.
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tipsycad147 · 3 years
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Hermes – Messenger of the Gods
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As one of the twelve Olympian gods, Hermes was an important figure and features in many ancient Greek myths. He played many roles, including being a psychopomp to the dead and the winged herald of the gods. He was also a great trickster and the god of several other domains including commerce, thieves, flocks and roads.
Quick and intelligent, Hermes had the ability to move freely between the divine and mortal worlds and it was this skill that made him perfect for the role of the gods’ messenger. In fact, he was the only Olympian god who could cross the border between the dead and the living, an ability that would come into play in several significant myths.
Who was Hermes?
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Hermes was the son of Maia, one of the seven daughters of Atlas, and Zeus, the god of the sky. He was born in Arcadia on the famous Mt. Cyllene.
According to some sources, his name is derived from the Greek word ‘herma’ meaning a heap of stones like those that were used in the country as landmarks or to indicate the boundaries of the land.
Although he was a god of fertility, Hermes didn’t marry and had few affairs, compared to most other Greek gods. His consorts include Aphrodite, Merope, Dryope and Peitho. Hermes had several children including Pan, Hermaphroditus (with Aphrodite), Eudoros, Angelia and Evander.
Hermes is often depicted wearing a winged helmet, winged sandals and carrying a wand, known as the caduceus.
What Was Hermes the God Of?
Apart from being a messenger, Hermes was a god in his own right.
Hermes was the protector and patron of herdsmen, travellers, orators, literature, poets, sports and trade. He was also the god of athletic contests, heralds, diplomacy, gymnasiums, astrology and astronomy.
In certain myths, he is depicted as a clever trickster who would sometimes outwit the gods for fun or for the benefit of humankind.
Hermes was immortal, powerful and his unique skill was speed. He had the ability to make people fall asleep using his staff. He was also a psychopomp, and as such had the role of escorting the newly dead to their place in the Underworld.
Myths Involving Hermes
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Hermes and the Herd of Cattle
Hermes was an impish god who was always searching for constant amusement. When he was just a baby, he stole a herd of fifty sacred cattle that belonged to his half-brother Apollo. Although he was a baby, he was strong and clever and he covered up the herd’s tracks by attaching bark to their shoes, which made it difficult for anyone to follow them. He hid the herd in a large cave in Arcadia for several days until satyrs discovered it. This is how he came to be associated with thieves.
After a hearing held by Zeus and the rest of the Olympian gods, Hermes was allowed to keep the herd which consisted of only 48 cattle since he’d already killed two of them and used their intestines to make strings for the lyre, a musical instrument he’s credited for having invented.
However, Hermes could only keep the herd if he gifted his lyre to Apollo which he willingly did. Apollo gave him a shining whip in exchange, putting him in charge of the cattle herds.
Hermes and Argos
One of the most celebrated mythical episodes involving Hermes is the killing of the many-eyed giant, Argos Panoptes. The story began with Zeus’ secret affair with Io, the Argive Nymph. Zeus’ wife Hera was quick to appear on the scene but before she could see anything, Zeus transformed Io into a white cow to hide her.
However, Hera knew of her husband’s promiscuity and was not deceived. She demanded the heifer as a gift and Zeus had no option other than to let her have it. Hera then appointed the giant Argos to guard the animal.
Zeus had to free Io so he sent Hermes to rescue her from the clutches of Argos. Hermes played beautiful music which lulled Argos to sleep and as soon as the giant was nodding off, he took his sword and slayed him. As a result, Hermes earned himself the title ‘Argeiphontes’ which means ‘Slayer of Argos’.
Hermes in the Titanomachy
In Greek mythology, the Titanomachy was a great war that took place between the Olympian gods and the Titans, the old generation of the Greek gods. It was a long war that lasted for ten years and ended when the old pantheon that was based on Mt. Othrys was defeated. Afterwards, the new pantheon of gods was established on Mt. Olympus.
Hermes was seen during the war dodging boulders thrown by the Titans, but he doesn’t have a prominent role in this great conflict. He apparently did his best to avoid it whereas Ceryx, one of his sons, fought valiantly and was killed in battle fighting Kratos, the divine personification of power or brute strength.
It’s said that Hermes bore witness to Zeus banishing the Titans to Tartarus for all eternity.
Hermes and the Trojan War
Hermes played a role in the Trojan War as mentioned in the Iliad. In one long passage, Hermes is said to have acted as a guide and counsellor to Priam, the King of Troy as he tried to retrieve the body of his son Hector who was killed at the hands of Achilles. However, Hermes actually supported the Achaeans and not the Trojans during the war.
Hermes as Messenger
As messenger to the gods, Hermes is present in several popular myths.
Hermes as Messenger
Hermes escorts Persephone from the underworld back to Demeter, her mother in the land of the living.
Hermes escorts Pandora down to earth from Mount Olympus and takes her to her husband, Epimetheus.
After Orpheus turns back, Hermes is tasked with escorting Eurydice back into the Underworld forever.
Hermes’ Symbols
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Hermes is often depicted with the following symbols, which are commonly identified with him:
The Caduceus – This is the most popular symbol of Hermes, featuring two snakes wound around a winged staff. Because of its similarity to the Rod of Asclepius (the symbol of medicine) the Caduceus is often mistakenly used as a symbol of medicine.
Talaria, the Winged Sandals – The winged sandals are a popular symbol of Hermes, connecting him to speed and agile movement. The sandals were made of imperishable gold by Hephaestus, the craftsman of the gods, and they allowed Hermes to fly as fast as any bird. The winged sandals feature in the myths of Perseus and helped him in his quest to kill the Gorgon Medusa.
A Leather Pouch – The leather pouch associates Hermes with commerce. According to some accounts, Hermes used the leather pouch to keep his sandals in.
Petasos, the Winged Helmet – Such hats were worn by rural people in Ancient Greek as a sun hat. Hermes’ Petasos features wings, associating him with speed but also with the shepherds, roads and travelers.
Lyre -While the lyre is a common symbol of Apollo, it’s also a symbol of Hermes, because he is said to have invented it. It’s a representation of his skill, intelligence and quickness.
A Gallic Rooster and a Ram – In Roman mythology, Hermes (Roman equivalent Mercury) is often depicted with a rooster to herald a new day. He’s also portrayed riding on the back of a large ram, symbolizing fertility.
Phallic Imagery – Hermes was seen as a symbol of fertility and phallic imagery associated with the god were often placed at household entrances, reflecting the ancient belief that he was a symbol of household fertility.
Hermes Cult and Worship
Statues of Hermes were placed at the entrances of stadiums and gymnasiums throughout Greece because of his swiftness and athleticism. He was worshipped in Olympia where the Olympic Games was celebrated and sacrifices made to him included cakes, honey, goats, pigs and lambs.
Hermes has several cults throughout both Greece and Rome, and he was worshipped by many people. Gamblers often prayed to him for good luck and wealth and merchants worshipped him daily for successful business. People believed that Hermes’ blessings would bring them good fortune and prosperity and so they made offerings to him.
One of the oldest and most important places of worship for Hermes was Mt. Cyllene in Arcadia where he was said to have been born. From there, his cult was taken to Athens and from Athens it spread throughout Greece.
There are several statues of Hermes erected in Greece. One of the most famous statues of Hermes is known as the ‘Hermes of Olympia’ or the ‘Hermes of Praxiteles’, found amongst the ruins of a temple dedicated to Hera in Olympia. There is also priceless artwork depicting Hermes on display at the Olympian Archaeological Museum.
Hermes in Roman Tradition
In Roman tradition, Hermes is known and worshipped as Mercury. He is the Roman god of travellers, merchants, transporters of goods, tricksters and thieves. He is sometimes depicted holding a purse, which is symbolic of his usual business functions. A temple built on Aventine Hill, Rome, was dedicated to him in 495 BCE.
Facts About Hermes
1- Who are Hermes’ parents?
Hermes is the offspring of Zeus and Maia.
2- What is Hermes the god of?
Hermes is the god of boundaries, roads, commerce, thieves, athletes and shepherds.
3- Where does Hermes live?
Hermes lives on Mount Olympus as one of the Twelve Olympian gods.
4- What are Hermes’ roles?
Hermes is the herald of the gods and also a psychopomp.
5- Who are Hermes’ consorts?
Hermes consorts include Aphrodite, Merope, Dryope and Peitho.
6- Who is Hermes’ Roman equivalent?
Hermes Roman equivalent is Mercury.
7- What are Hermes’ symbols?
His symbols include caduceus, talaria, lyre, rooster and the winged helmet.
8- What are Hermes’ powers?
Hermes was known for his swiftness, intelligence and agility.
In Brief
Hermes is one of the best-loved of the Greek gods because of his cleverness, quick-wit, mischievousness and skills he possessed. As one of the twelve Olympian gods, and as the messenger of the gods, Hermes was an important figure and features in several myths.
https://symbolsage.com/hermes-god-greek-mythology/
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moved202347 · 5 years
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Hekate / Hecate
(from my old amino before I got banned 😂, pretty much copy n pasted for reference)
Dogs/puppies [from https://hekatecovenant.com/resources/symbols-of-hekate/dogs/] -The dog was connected to spirits, the home (as a guard), a friend of the family, also symbolising an easy birth and fertility.  Represents the earth element. Also known as the 'black bitch'. Originated in ancient hymns, writings, ancient Greek pottery, stone carvings and statues. Its first symbolism came from the Trojan Queen Hekabe who leapt into the sea after the fall of Troy. Hecate took pity on her and turned her into a black dog which became her familiar. In some Greek towns, black female dogs were sacrificed in Hecate's honour, usually at night. Cerberus, the three-headed hound who guards the entrance of the Underworld is additionally connected to Hecate. In American + European folklore, dogs have always been seen as supernatural in the nature of what humans can't see. Black dogs are thought to roam the locations Hecate holds sacred; desolate roads, moors, cemeteries and the crossroads. Dogs attend her as she roams these desolate spaces. 
Dragons [credit to https://hekatecovenant.com/resources/symbols-of-hekate/dragon/]- There are loads of epithets of Hecate. One of her epithets comes from the name 'propylaya' meaning 'she who stands before the gate'. Her hound is believed to be the three-headed dog Cerberus who guards the gateway into the Underworld and some myths believed that dogs replaced dragons. There is imagery associated with Medea with riding her flying chariot escaping from Korinthos after the murder of the king Kreon. Her dragons were a pair of winged, serpentine dragons. 
Black lamb - A preferred sacrificial offering to Hecate. In modern times, it would be more suitable to have a representative of a black lamb such as a statue or photograph , or somehow getting a living black female sheep into your house without wrecking havoc in front of your altar (I don't recommend having a living animal on your altar!). 
Fire breathing Horse or Bull - Represents the fire element. It was symbolic of Hades fiery soul. Hecate is often seen in images crowned with bull-like crescent horns. Black bulls became heavily associated with Hecate as sacrificial animals in necromancy rituals. It is a constant reminder of her powers as creator and destroyer symbolised by the phases (waxing and waning) of the moon and seen in the crescent horns of a bull.
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Hydra headed snake or serpent [https://archetypicalwitchcraft.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/understanding-hekate-part-5-the-meaning-of-her-ancient-symbols/]- A solar and underworld symbol. Represents the water element. It was an ambivalent symbol just like the dog, it was connected to the sun, healing and regeneration. Yet there was also a link to the spiritual side, the underworld too. There was old folklore which believed spirits would appear as a snake to bless the house. Snakes, like domestic animals was said to be able to see and feel the presence of spirits, so they were used in necromancy and magic to figure out if there was spirits around. 
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Other associations are: frogs or toads; black bulls (draped in wreaths of yew and was then slaughtered in her honour);belladonna (poisonous herb!), cypress; dittany; mandrake; honey (anything sweet), dark chocolate (modern interpretation!); red wine (of course only if your in the age to use it, though your not going to be drinking it!);  torches;  infernal spirits; dagger; ebony; knives or daggers (obviously be safe and don't do any silly things with it!); twin torches; magickal brewing (so potions); silver; grey; bats; rope; black; mental health; hearth and home; dreams; divination; cauldrons; fate. MORE HERBS:  hazel, black poplar, cedar, willow, garlic, thyme, almonds, myrrh, mugwort, mint, dandelion, cardamom, hellbore, belladonna, hemlock, mandrake, hecateis (aconite, wolfsbane [poisonous]) opium poppy, verbena, sage, purple honeysuckle, camomile. Any hallucination herbs (be careful obviously and know your stuff and even then check it with someone who also knows their stuff). Owls, bears, ravens, cats (possibly) and donkeys. 
She is associated with yew, garlic, all poisonous herbs (use representations, so little tiny mushroom statues), oak, white, red, purple, ferrets (polecats), healing, healing herbs (more of the stronger ones and notorious ones), keys (Knowledge, unlocking wisdom, seeing the truth), mandrake, lamps, saffron, sandals in bronze or gold, whips, iron, the wolf, mullet (the blood-coloured goatfish), the new moon, twilight (best time to do rituals with her).
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Also MORE epithets ("An epithet is an honorary and praiseful descriptive title used as part of a name."), all taken and sourced from http://www.patheos.com/blogs/matauryn/2017/07/19/many-epithets-hekate/. 
Adamantaea ‘Unconquerable’, ‘Untamable Goddess’
Admêtos ‘Indomable’, ‘Unconquered’
Aenaos ‘Eternal’
Agallomenen Elaphoisi ‘Rejoicing in Deer’
Agia ‘Sacred’, ‘Holy’
Aglaos ‘Radiant’
Agriope ‘Wild-eyed’, ‘Fierce-faced’, ‘Savage-watcher’, ‘wild-voiced’
Agrotera ‘Huntress’
Aidônaia ‘Goddess of Hades’, ‘Of the Underworld”
Aimopotis ‘Blood-drinker’, ‘Murderer’
Aiônos ‘Eternal’
Aizêiοs ‘Vigorous’
Aktinochiatis ‘Radiant haired’, ‘With Rays for Hair’
Aktiophis [Of Unknown Meaning]
Alexeatis ‘Averter of Evil’
Alkimos ‘Powerful’, ‘Strong’, ‘Stout’, ‘Brave’
Amaimaketos ‘Unconquerable’, ‘Raging’, ‘Invincible’, ‘Unapproachable’, ‘Uncontrollable’
Ambrotos ‘Immortal’
Ameibousa ‘One That Transforms’
Amphiphaes ‘Circumlucent’
Amphiprosopos ‘Double-faced’
Amphistomos ‘Double-mouthed’
Anassa ‘Queen’
Anassa Eneroi ‘Queen of the Dead’
Androphonos ‘Killer of Men’
Angelos ‘Messenger’
Antaian Theou ‘She Who Meets’
Antania ‘Enemy of Mankind’
Aôroboros ‘Devourer of the Prematurely Dead’, ‘Devourer of the Untimely Dead’
Apanchomene ‘The Hanged One’
Apotropaios ‘Averting’, ‘Averter’
Aphrattos ‘Unnamed One’
Arêgos ‘Helper’
Archikos ‘Royal’
Ariste ‘The Best’
Ariste Cthonia ‘Best of the World’, ‘Best in the World’
Arkuia / Arkyia ‘Spinner of webs’, ‘Entrapper’
Arrhetos ‘Ineffable’
Astrodia ‘Star-walker’, ‘Star-Courser’
Atala ‘Tender’, ‘Delicate’
Atasthalos ‘Pretentious’, ‘Reckless’, ‘Presumptious’
Athanatos ‘Immortal’, ‘Of Immortal Fame’
Autophyês / Autopheus ‘Self-generating’. ‘Self-begotten’
Azonos ‘Without Borders’
Azostos ‘Ungirt’, ‘Without a Belt’
Baridouchos ‘Barque-holder’, ‘Skiff-holder’
Basileia ‘Queen’, ‘Princess’
Bolos ‘Far-Thrower’,
Boôpis ‘Cow-eyed’
Booporos ‘Ox-Herder’
Borborophorba ‘Eater of Filth’
Boukolos ‘Ox-Herder’
Brimô ‘Angry-One’, ‘Terrifying’
Buthios ‘Abysmal’, ‘Of the Depths’
Charopos ‘Ferocious-aspected’, ‘Fierce’, ‘Grim’, ‘Flashing’, ‘Bright, ‘Having blue-grey eyes’, ‘of the Sea’
Chthonia ‘Chthonic’, ‘Of the Earth”
Chrysôpis ‘Golden-faced’
Chrysosandalos ‘of Golden Sandals’
Chrysosandalaimopotichthonia ‘Goddess of the Lower World Wearing Golden Sandals and Drinking Blood’
Chrysostephanos ‘Golden-Crowned’, ‘Crowned with Splendor’
Chrysostephês ‘Golden-crowned’
Dadophoros ‘Torchbearer’
Dadouchos ‘Torch-bearer’
Daeira ‘The Knowing One’
Daidalos ‘Cunning’
Damasandra ‘Dominator of Men’, ‘Subduer of Men’
Damnamene ‘Means of Constraint’
Damnodamia ‘Subduer of Subduers’
Damnomeneia ‘Dominating Force’
Dasplêtis ‘Horror’, ‘Frightful-one’
Deichteira ‘Teacher’, ‘Revealer’
Deinos ‘Terrible’
Despoina ‘Lady’, ‘Mistress’
Dione ‘Goddess’
Doloessa / Doloeis ‘Astute-one’, ‘Subtle’, ‘Wily’, ‘Cunning’
Drakaina ‘Serpent’, ‘Dragon’
Eidôlios ‘Phantasmal’, ‘Ghostly’
Eileithyia ‘Nurse of Childbirth’, ‘Goddess of Midwives’
Einalian ‘Of the Sea’
Einodia Thygater Demetros ‘Daughter of Demeter, who is of the Road’
Ekklesia ‘Of the Assembly’
Ekdotis ‘Bestower’
Elaphêbolos ‘Deer-huntress’, ‘Shooter of Deer’
Elateira ‘Driver’, ‘Charioteer’
Ellophonos ‘Fawn-slayer’
Epaine ‘Awe-Inspiring’, ‘Glorious’, ‘Sublime’
Empousa / Empusa [Of unknown meaning, related to the monster Empusa and the idea of phantoms and specters]
Empylios ‘At the Gate’
Empyrios ‘Empyrean’
Enodia ‘Of the crossroads’, ‘Of the Roads’, ‘Of the Path’
Ephodia ‘Traveling Expenses’, ‘Provisions for the Road’, ‘Traveling Supplies’, ‘Resources’
Ephoros ‘Guardian’ ‘Overseer’
Epigeioi ‘of the Earth’
Epiphanestate Thea ‘the Most Manifest Goddess’
Epipurgidia ‘on the Tower’
Episkopos ‘Guardian’, ‘One who Watches Over’, ‘Overseer’
Epiteichea ‘The Stronghold’, ‘Fort’
Epi-tymbidia ‘Sepulchral’
Eranne ‘Lovely’
Erannos ‘Lovely’
Ergatis ‘Energizer’
Êrigeneia ‘Daughter of morning’, ‘Early-born’
Erôtotokeia / Erototokos ‘Bearer of love’, ‘Producing Love’, ‘Who Bore Love’
Eukoline ‘Good Tempered’
Eupatepeia ‘Noble-born’
Eurippa ‘Horse-finder’
Geneteira ‘Mother’
Genetyllis ‘Birth-Helper’, ‘Goddess of Childbirth’, ‘Midwife’
Gigaessa ‘Giant’
Gorgo ‘The Grim’, ‘The Gorgon’
Hecatoncheires ‘Hundred-handed’
Hegemonen ‘Guide’
Hêgemoye ‘Queen’
Helike ‘Revolving’
Hersechthonia ‘Speaking From Below’
Hexacheira ‘Of Six Ways’, ‘Of Six Hands’
Hiera ‘Holy One’
Hieros Pyr ‘Holy Fire’
Hipparete ‘Horse-Speaker’
Hippokyon ‘Mare Bitch’, ‘Horse Dog’
Hippoprosopos ‘Horse-Faced’
Hypolampteira [Of Unknown Meaning – possibly related to light or brightness]
Iocheaira / Iokheaira ‘Arrow-shooter’, ‘One who Shoots Arrows’
Indalimos ‘Beautiful’
Ippokyôn ‘Mare-Dog’, half dog/ half horse
Ippoprosôpos ‘Horse-faced’
Kalkaea ‘Wearer of High Boots’
Kalligeneia ‘Bearing Beautiful Offspring’
Kalliste ‘Fairest’
Kapetoktypos ‘Tomb-disturber’, ‘Causing the Noise of Lamentation’
Kardiodaitos ‘Heart-Eater’, ‘Feasting on Men’s Hearts’
Kareia ‘of Karia’, ‘Kraus’
Karko ‘Lamia’, ‘Child-Eating’, ‘Nocturnal Spirit’
Katachthonia ‘Subterranean’
Katakampsypsaychenos ‘Bender of proud necks’
Kelkaia [Of Unknown Meaning]
Keratôpis ‘Horned-faced’, ‘Horned Looking’
Keroeis ‘Horned’
Kthonia ‘Of the Underworld’, ’Of the Earth’
Kleidouchos / Kleidoukhos ‘Key-holder’, ‘Key-keeper’
Klôthaiê ‘Spinner of fate’
Kore ‘Maiden’
Kourotrophos ‘Child’s Nurse’, ‘Nurse of Youths’
Krataios / Kratais ‘Powerful’, ‘Dominator’, ‘Of the Rocks’
Krokopeplos ‘Saffron-Cloaked’
Kunolygmatos ‘Doglike Howler’, ‘Who howls doglike’
Kydimos ‘Glorious’
Kynegetis ‘Leader of Dogs’
Kynokephalos ‘Dog-Headed’
Kynolygmate ‘Howling Like a Dog’, ‘Who Howls Dog-like’
Kyôn ‘Bitch’, ‘Dog’
Kyôn Melaina ‘Black Bitch’, ‘Black Dog’
Kyria ‘The Powerful’, ‘The Supreme’
Laginitis ‘Of Lagina’
Lampadephoros ‘Lamp-bearer’, ‘Torch-bearer’, ‘Who Warns of Nighttime Attack’
Lampadios ‘Lamp-bearer’, ‘Torch-bearer’
Leaina ‘The Lioness’
Leontoukhos ‘Holding a Lion’
Leukophryne ‘White-Browed’, ‘Of the White-Browed Hill’
Limenitis ‘Harbor Goddess’
Limenitikos ‘Of the Harbor’, ‘Harbor Goddess’
Limenoskopos ‘Of the Threshold’, ‘Watcher of Havens’, ‘On the Harbor’, ‘Watching the Harbor’
Liparokredemnos ‘Of the Bright Headband’, ‘Bright-Coiffed’
Liparoplokamos ‘Brilliant-Braided’
Lochias ‘Protector of birth’, ‘Goddess of Childbearing’
Lykaina ‘She-wolf’
Lyko ‘She-wolf’, ‘Wolf-formed’
Maera ‘Shining’
Mageus ‘One who Kneads’ [Possibly related to Magi]
Makairapos ‘Blessed-one’
Medeousa / Medusa ‘Protector’, ‘Guard’, ‘Gorgon’
Meisopomenos ‘Laborer of the Moon’
Meisoponeros ‘Vice-Hating’
Megiste ‘Greatest’
Melaine ‘Black’
Melaneimôn ‘Black-clad’, ‘Wearing Black’
Melinoe ‘Soothing One’
Mene ‘Moon’
Moira ‘A Share’, ‘Fate’
Monogenes ‘Only Child’
Monoprosopos ‘With One Face’
Mormo ‘She-Monster’
Munychia [Of Unknown Meaning]
Nekuia / Nekyia ‘Goddess of death’, ‘Mistress of corpses’
Nerteria ‘Infernal’, ‘Subterranean’, ‘Nether One’
Nerterios ‘Infernal’, ‘Subterranean’, Nether One’
Nerteron Prytanin ‘Mistress of the Dead’
Noctiluca ‘Light of the Night’, ‘Night Shiner’
Noeros ‘Intellective’
Nomaios ‘Pastoral’
Nychia / Nykhia ‘Nocturnal’ ‘Nocturnal-One’ “Goddess of Night’
Nyktairodyteira ‘Night Riser and Setter’, ‘She that Rises and Sets by Night’
Nykteria ‘Of the Night’
Nykti ‘Of the Night’
Nyktiboos ‘Night-Shouter’, ‘Night-Crier’
Nyktipolos ‘Night-Wandering’
Nyktophaneia ‘Night-shining’
Nymphen ‘Bride’
Nyssa ‘Goader’, “Goal’, ‘Beginning’, ‘Turning Post’, ‘Ambition’
Oistrophaneia ‘Manifester of Madness’
Oistroplaneia ‘Spreader of Madness’, ‘Causing the Wanderings of Madness’
Oksyboê ‘Shrill-screamer’, ‘Shrieker’
Oletis ‘Destroyer’
Opaon ‘Follower’
Opheôplokamos ‘Coiled with Snakes’, ‘With Snaky Curls’
Oriplanos ‘Mountain-roamer’, ‘Mountain-Wandering’
Oroboros ‘Tail-Eating’
Ourania ‘Celestial’, ‘Heavenly’
Ouresiphoites ‘Wanderer in the Mountains’
Oxythymia ‘Gallows’, ‘Quick to Anger’
Paggennêteira ‘Mother of All’
Paiônios ‘Healer’
Pammêtôr ‘Mother of All’
Pandamateira ‘All-tamer’, ‘All-powerful’, “All Subduer’, ‘Master of all’
Pandina [Of Unknown Meaning – Possibly related to ‘whirling’ or ‘rotating’]
Pandôteira ‘All-giver’, ‘One who gives everything’, ‘Bestower of Everything’, Bounteous’
Pangaios ‘World-wide’
Panopaia ‘All-seeing’, ‘One who sees everything’, ‘Panorama’
Panta Ephepousa [Of Unknown Meaning]
Pantos Kosmou Kleidokhos ‘Keeper of the Keys of the Cosmos’
Pantrephô / Pantrophos ‘All-nurturing’, ‘All-sustaining’, ‘who feeds all’
Parthenos ‘Virgin’
Pasikrateia ‘Universal Queen’, ‘All-powerful’, ‘who dominates all’
Pasimedeonsa ‘All-guarding’, ‘All-protecting’
Pasimedousa ‘Ruling Over All’
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Prologue - Part 1
6:03 AM,
Monday,
5th July 1897,
Quelptic Hill,
Doonesberry Town,
Maysteirn, Acordia Petra
“..There was no way to escape..I can hear them tailing on my heels, getting closer and closer with every step. Shouts and screams of anger and vindication echoes within these walls. There was only one place I can turn to..only one place to seek my final refuge..my final sanctuary..our sanctuary. As I finally closed the door behind me, their voices continues to reverberate. There was no way that the door will hold against the juggernaut that is the mob. I immediately went to the altar and turn the pages of the tome..my followers braced themselves for the worst..I've always hoped that it would not come to this..trust have always been my Achille’s Heel. The banging at the door was getting louder..the page was right in front of me. I read its passage, post haste, to my best of chanting the right words with the right flair..it shall not end like this. Splinters began to fall off from the door..it will not hold much longer. I have to finish the passage..[Groaning]..Curses!..The fiery pain was searing on my skin!..Eating me alive!..I have to keep reading!..I have to..”
“..and jus' like tha'...they suddenly vanished!..Jus' like tha'!”
“Hogwash...”
“I beg ya' pardon!”
“HOGWASH! ARSECRACK! HORSE DUNG! COW DUNG! YOUR SHIT-STAINED BACKSIDE!”
“Ya' kiss mum with tha' mouth? An’ ere’ I thought ya' a lady..[Laughing]”
“I am a lady, little brotha'..but only in tha’ presence of another man..you..little brotha'..are no man..”
“Ol' right, ol' right! Mock all ya' will! An’ it's a true story I tell ya!' Thas’ wha' exactly happened there!..”
“Ya' ge’ in all too worked up over some fairy tales..”
“Fairy tales? Have ya' been stickin' ya' head so deep into the underworld?”
“Don't talk back to me like tha', Sebastian! I'm still ya' olda’ sista'!”
Sebastian went silent for awhile. All that can be heard was the sound of the cart which was carrying buckets, brooms, mops, feather dusters and rags, creaking as they slowly made their way towards a black structure that was coming up ahead.
“Woah..” Sebastian was in awe at the sight of the old black mansion that still stood after half a century later.
“Don't open ya' mouth like tha'..flies will ge’ in an’ eat ya' bowel an’ guts.”
“Thas’ not true..”
“Sure it is..ya' believe in all them little fairy tales, right?”
They finally stopped in front of the steps towards the main entrance. Red octagonal shapes were engraved on the heavy double doors.
[Jingling sound]
Valerie then produced a large set of iron keys before heading towards one of the doors. Seconds later, a clicking sound echoed within the walls inside the mansion. Sebastian can barely contain his excitement.
“Don't ge’ all too excited now..ya' don't wanna ge' we’ inside ya' pants..” Her dry humor was almost inhuman.
Finally, she pushes the doors open. Dust and dingy smell immediately fill their nostrils.
[Coughing sound]
“Good heavens..” said Valerie as she was fanning the dust away from her face with her hand.
What they saw before them was definitely a sight to behold.
Grandmaster Lord Caligo's Mansion a.k.a The Black Mansion was located at Doonesberry Town, quite a distance from the nearest civilization where it had been hiding itself on top of Quelptic Hill. The Black Mansion was as mysterious as the man himself. In 1844, a man who calls himself Grandmaster Lord Caligo, arrived in the town one day and simply proceed to purchasing the piece of land on top of Quelptic Hill, in cold hard cash. No one really knows where he was from and the property was never for sale to begin with, but seeing the amount of money that he had to offer, the mayor was more than willing to overlook the policy and approved the purchasing of the public property. The hill had always been a popular spot for the residents to enjoy the scenery from the top of the hill while having a picnic or just a simple trek going up and about. All that changes the moment Grandmaster Lord Caligo bought the place all to himself. The resentment eventually grew bigger at the corruption of the local authorities for allowing the privatization of the public property. They eventually learned that Grandmaster Lord Caligo was more than just a rich outsider, much more than a man with a lavish mansion who had a thing for the darker shade of colors.
“Oi! Where are ya’ goin’ now!”
[Running footsteps sound]
Sebastian went running across the hall towards the twin staircases that would spiral next to each other at the end of the large hall. There was also a short staircase that led downstairs, between the other two staircases. Just about every material in the mansion was painted black or made of black materials including the glasses on the high windows that eerily filters the light of the day. There were tall black statues of bizarre looking figures, some with animal heads and holding weapons, standing on every corner of the ground floor. Sebastian went towards the one that looked like a monk wearing a robe with its head down and holding a staff in one hand, standing near one of the staircases. His sister finally caught up with him.
“Damn it, Sebastian! This isn't the Doonesberry Drive on a Sunday!” scolded Valerie while taking her breaths.
Sebastian took a closer look at the sculpted figure.
“Ave’ ya' eva’ seen anything so majestic?” asked Sebastian.
“An’ did ya' know tha’ this whole mansion was made of black marble? Imagine the amount of gold he must ave’!...An’ did ya' know why the last lord of the house sold this property?”
“No..lil’ brotha'..do pray tell..”
Sebastian chuckled for a moment.
“Oi sistha'..[Chuckling]..such ignorance!..It was said..tha’ his brotha’..which was the true lord of the house before he inherited it..gone missing, inside the house!..Jus' like tha'!..Like the wind!..”
His sister was still far from being impressed with his story.
“But..it was said tha’ he didn't jus’ went missing..he went missing in this house after enterin’ a room..the same fate that befell on the other lords after Grandmaster Lord Caligo...the lost room..” said Sebastian while trying to add an eerie tone to his tale. His sister maintained her blank stare.
“The very same room tha’ Grandmaster Lord Caligo disappeared into..it was said tha’ the room would appear and disappear on any walls of tha’ house..searching for its next victim..”
“Ya' done?”
“Wha’? Damned be to ya' funny bones! Ya’ ave’ no sense of a good tale!”
“Ya' mean tha’ yarn tha’ ya’ spun over an’ over again?”
Sebastian looked disappointed.
“Hey sistha', where did Lord Cali go? Huh? Savvy? [Laughing]”
Valerie can barely contain her emotions anymore.
“An’ did ya’...”
“Sebastian! We're not at some royal grand ball, exchanging tales of grandeur, cock an’ bull on top, sipping our wines an’ admiring stones an’ such! We're ere’ to clean!” Valerie then shoved the bucket containing the cleaning items as well as the mop at his brother.
“We ave’ 3 days!..3 days!..That's all we ave’!..Now go to the study room an’ start cleaning!”
Sebastian took them without much enthusiasm. His sister then took hers before heading towards the back of the mansion.
[Sighing sound]
Moments later, after filling up his bucket with water from the well and reaching the upper floor, he finds himself walking along a dark and short hallway right in the middle of the level. Another double door engraved with the same octagonal shape guards the entrance to its domain. He took his time walking slowly towards it before turning on one of the handles.
[Loud clicking sound]
[Creaking sound]
“By the stars and the moon..” whispered Sebastian.
The room before him was unlike any other room he had ever seen in his life. For starters, it had more than 4 walls, 8 of them to be precise. Sebastian slowly walked towards the center of the room while “spinning” around. It also had a low illumination from the windows high above the walls.
“What manner of a room is this?”
On top of every side of the room just below the windows, hangs a painting. He looks down. The floor was adorned with yet another octagonal shape that seems to “radiate” from the center of the room with its extending layers until it hits the walls surrounding it. Sebastian took a glance at all of the paintings. The imagery and scenery on the paintings were beyond his imagination and comprehension. All of them, however, share one thing in common. There will always be a dark figure looming somewhere behind. Aside from its semi-obscure silhouette, the most visible part of the figure was its shiny black hand with its forefinger fitted with an emerald ring. At least one of the drawings was that of a naked woman who was her on knees, almost as if she was in sorrow while a dark figure stood ominously at a distance, looking and “waiting” on her. Underneath the paintings were long dark red banners that covers the wall all the way to the ground. Sebastian was about to look closely at one of the paintings when suddenly, he heard something.
[Wind blowing sound]
He immediately turns around to locate the source of the mysterious sound.
[Wind blowing sound]
After a few turns, he finally saw it. Towards his far left, underneath one of the paintings, the banner seems to be slightly moving.
[Wind blowing sound]
It was unmistakable that there was definitely an opening behind the wall that was causing the banner's movement. Sebastian hesitated for awhile before he decided to a few steps towards the mysterious occurrence in front of him.
“Sebastian...”
It was faint but he was sure that he heard his name being whispered. He approaches the banner cautiously.
“Sebastian...”
He stretched out his right arm, inching ever so slowly towards the banner that was lightly waving in the air. The voice became louder.
“Sebastian...”
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Pitioss Ruins: Revelations
What better way to start this blog, than with our first infamous FFXV theory about the mysterious Pitioss Ruins...
http://imgur.com/OeP20ZH
Original theory by husband & wife team, Perona77.
WARNING: Major game story spoilers below. Don't read if you haven't completed FFXV.
FOREWARD: First off… a BIG THANK YOU to everyone who read & participated in our last thread, Pitioss Ruins; a tale of love & despair. We were blown away at the response it had, and are thrilled that it sparked so many of you to discuss the masterpiece that is Pitioss & got people interested in re-playing this often overlooked gem.
THANK YOU: HUGE shout out to Youtuber Final Fantasy Peasant, for making a video about our theory!! We love you, man! We did want to make it clear that we are the original creators of this theory. Peasant seemed confused as to who originally wrote it, because we mentioned we had gotten a piece of the puzzle from someone else’s comment about the female statue being an astral corpse. Other than that small detail, everything else is us. We’ve spent DAYS together playing FFXV, researching leads, brainstorming, & writing this all out to share with you guys.
THANK YOU: We also want to thank Felipe C. for leaving us a comment on facebook earlier today. He mentioned that one of the producers of FFXV worked on Bloodborne, a game famous for using environment & item descriptions to bring lore and story in to the game. This lines up with Tabata’s comments during the FEB 2nd ATR that a “certain” developer wanted to put a floating head of Ramuh in Pitioss. This cements the story we are about to lay out for you even more. Thanks, Filipe!
In the first thread, everything was written as if one person was writing, but actually, we are a husband & wife who both love Final Fantasy. We worked this story and the previous theory out together. Each of us noticing things that the other didn’t.
Link if you want to read our first theory about Pitioss:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXV/comments/5rwru8/pitioss_ruins_a_tale_of_love_despair/
In our original Pitioss: A Tale of Love & Despair post, several commenters pointed out holes in our theory that we kind of agreed with. This inspired us to revisit Pitioss & think even further outside the box. What we found shocked us. It has turned the game as we knew it upside down. We have all been as blind as Ignis up to this point. Please read our tale to the end, so you can fully grasp the majesty and depth Square Enix has snuck into this game.
The story in Pitioss, as said in our last post is a tale told through symbolism. It is Ifrit’s masterpiece crafted to tell the tale of how he tried to save Eos, Goddess of the Dawn, by travelling into the Underworld to free her from her imprisonment. Let us stress here that Pitioss is NOT where these events actually occurred. Pitioss is literally a Greek tragedy stage play set up by Ifrit himself to tell his epic tale to a future Lucian king & memorialize his beloved, Eos.
The Greeks invented stage play with the Greek Tragedies, and this game is heavy with Greek & Roman mythology. It fits the tone of FFXV perfectly. Ifrit is fickle as fire, emotional, and a romantic. He could have just written a book & hidden it somewhere. But no. He’s artistic. He wants to lay his tale out in a very visual & symbolic way, down to the last detail. This explains the heavy use of symbolism throughout Pitioss Ruins.
We realized that if the statues, puzzles, and events in Pitioss are symbolic…then the items strewn about the dungeon and details on objects must be as well. We slowly went through Pitioss and studied every item and what we know they mean. Paying attention to even the smallest of details in Pitioss truly opened the story to us in a completely new way.
Now join us, as we jump back in to the Pit of Eos.
CHAPTER 1: “AN IDEA”
The play begins in the main hall of Pitioss Ruins. A spotlight shines on the bearded statue who is holding a door shut with one hand and a platform with the other. This is Titan holding the Door to the Underworld shut while supporting the earth. A second spotlight shines on Ifrit in a cage. Titan is barring Ifrit’s way forward. There is very light, sinister music playing in the background. The stage is set. http://imgur.com/X58taw1
Take a look around, this place has the same architecture as Costlemark Tower and Steyliff Grove, but it is grossly unfinished! There are holes in the ground, loosely stacked pillars, haphazardly placed stones… Solheim started to build this place, abandoned it, and later, Ifrit used it to build a sanctuary for his tale. This can be evidenced by the building materials ALL OVER this dungeon, represented through items like rusty bits, chrome bits, metal scraps, building stones….Ifrit had a specific reason for this location…but we will get to that at the end.
We see Ifrit in a cage. The cage represents that he is either imprisoned, locked in thought, or that he is alone in his way of thinking & morals.
After multiple play throughs, we’ve noticed sometimes as you approach Ifrit’s statue the first time, the OST Overworld Music, “Wanderlust” track begins to play. We think this is important!! The music playing is saying that at this point, Ifrit is outside on the world map, restless, eager to start his journey.
The first puzzle to progress further involves bouncing a giant ball off the cage. We think this symbolizes a Meteor hitting whatever has Ifrit imprisoned. Alternatively, it could represent an “Ah-Ha! Moment, or a sudden idea involving the use of a Meteor.
We want to make note of this now because this pertains to the entirety of Pitioss. From here on out, whenever the player hits a switch, it represents an action being taken. Casting a spell, opening a door, etc. There are also a lot of random items in this dungeon that at first might not make sense like Rare Coins, Gemstones, etc. Ifrit is crafting spells with these items throughout his journey to help himself progress. Anytime the player sees a healing item, it represents a time Ifrit used it to heal himself. The red Glowing Wall Guards are literally daemons he has to fight. They glow with the same red lights we see when an Iron Giant spawns. Ifrit placed these Wall Guards throughout Pitioss for two purposes: one to represent when he fights a daemon, and two, to force the player down the correct path of his story. http://imgur.com/22edcA3
The next puzzle lets you get in to Ifrit’s area after the “Meteor” hits it and the cage is lifted. Next, the player jumps on to Ifrit’s back so they can then jump to the Meteor and hit the yellow switch to trigger a Meteor that smashes Titan’s statue completely. Proof that this actually happened is that the real Titan has been pinned down by the giant Meteor in Duscae.
Of note inside the cage area we find a Blood sword in the corner, and a Garnet Bracelet literally inside of Ifrit’s hand. http://imgur.com/NeuNopK
Blood swords in previous Final Fantasies have the item description of being covered in the blood of its victims. Ifrits in early Islamic lore are said to be formed from the blood of murder victims. Garnets can be associated with fire. Even more compelling here, however, is that they are symbolic of quick returns and a separated love and as such will be given to a lover about to embark on a long journey. AND if we take a look at Ifrit from the battle in Insomnia we can see that he is covered head to toe with jewelry adorned with red garnets…does this outright say that Ifrit is represented by this statue? No, but it certainly is a step in the right direction to proving that it IS indeed Ifrit. http://imgur.com/7B4DRI5 Another interesting piece of evidence that the identity of this statue is Ifrit, is Ifrit's artwork from Final Fantasy Tactics: http://imgur.com/R8DVRdX
From here, we climb to the next switch that causes a second meteor to blast through the door that had been blocked. Once Noctis hits this switch he says “This’ll work”! as if he’s mirroring Ifrit when he uses the second meteor.
SO….the first Meteor is the one that is holding Titan down at the Disc of Cauthess. http://imgur.com/dTIYTeD
The second Meteor is thrown at the spot that becomes Lestallum in the future. The crater in Lestallum creates an entrance to the Underworld for Ifrit to enter through.http://imgur.com/gGDHe1X
This would explain why daemons sometimes appear in the power plant…not because of star scourge in the meteor, but because deep below is a direct hole to the Underworld! Don’t believe us? Listen to this. It is widely believed that Episode Gladio involves going in to the Underworld. http://imgur.com/daYGUAz
We know Gladio leaves the party at Cape Caem. There are screenshots of Gladio in the Taelpar Crag area with Cor. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ
We are positive that while Ifrit originally enters the Underworld in Lestallum, he exits the Underworld somewhere in Taelpar Crag. So where does Gladio start his journey with Cor? Taelpar Crag. And where do we first encounter Gladio again after he has left for his mission with Cor?? Answer: The power plant in Lestallum! http://imgur.com/k6yRZY8
It’s such a weird part of the game, isn’t it??? It feels like bad story writing to have Gladio leave the party then randomly reappear later fighting Daemons in the power plant. But no. Square Enix had this planned from the start.
Ok! Let’s move on…we head through the now open door, and the music changes to dungeon music and a notice of officially entering Pitioss Ruins pops up…as if saying you weren't in it before. We think the main hall of Pitioss was built by people of Solheim, Ifrit only adds a few details to this room,such as his statue ,cage, and Titan statue. It’s only once we officially enter the “first” room of Pitioss that we start getting the crazy imagery. From here on out, Solheim only has minor things built, such as hallways or the general shape of the rooms. Everything else seems to be of Ifrit’s making.
The next room has the giant spinning globe with another Ifrit statue perched above it. http://imgur.com/lJLKOFp
Notice that his statue seems to have smashed through a steel beam that runs the length of room…more imagery that he has smashed through something. The globe represents the planet of Eos itself. There’s a giant hole in the globe that you have to jump through to reach the center of the globe…all while dodging fiery spikes (could this represent lava?).
Another thing to notice here is if you follow the statue of Ifrit’s gaze, you can see the statue of Eos far below. http://imgur.com/On4wiww
Until you actually arrive at the statue of Eos, anytime you see her below, it represents Ifrit thinking of her, not that he actually sees her. Why else make her visible at key points throughout Pitioss? Remember….Ifrit is a romantic, Eos is his beloved, & he is undertaking this massive journey for her sake.
Now, the outside of the globe has an interesting patina that looks like earth crust or perhaps an old, yellowed map. Inside the globe itself we noticed something crazy! There is this weird patterned, mosaic interior. Let’s look at it closer: http://imgur.com/0xfhz4z
Do you see it?? These tiles seem to represent the 4 Four Fiends of Chaos from FF!!! Marilith (the 2 headed snake), Lich (The boney face with a red hat that has souls flying to him), Kraken (aka Ultros with his 8 tentacles), & Tiamat (the white flower with 8 petals). What a stunning detail that so many people seem to miss! We think that there could be a connection to the 4 Fiends within Pitioss, but we couldn’t conclusively be sure. In particular, we couldn’t find a placing for for Tiamat & Kraken. But we found hints at Maralith and Lich. Maybe someone else could piece this part together.
The way to continue your path is to literally jump into the planet from the top, as if you’re falling into the planet, past lava, through the hole Ifrit made.
CHAPTER 2: THE GREAT RIVER & THE PHANTOM TRAIN
After crossing a short series of jumps, the player lands in a long rectangular room with 5 doors, and another Ifrit statue. http://imgur.com/V1ItTX7
There is an epic story being told in this room. Ifrit’s statue is perched at the beginning of the room, looking down the the hall that leads to the Door of the Underworld. http://imgur.com/SUBh6ly
Ifrit isn’t in the Underworld yet, rather deep inside the planet Eos, approaching the Door to the Underworld. Interestingly, there is a bright red spotlight shining on him, and in his hand is a Prawn Antennae. http://imgur.com/7CgU5YF
Weird, right? This is all seems very random…but it’s not, there is a tale being old here. As we discussed earlier, lighting is important here in Pitioss. Red lighting can be used to convey several emotions….violence, anger, or passion. Based off evidence of the Prawn Antennae we can decipher what happened here. Prawn Antennae are dropped by the lobster like Karlobos monster. In FFV Karlobos is a boss that guards a great river. After the heroes defeat Karlobos, he creates a whirlpool that wrecks their ship. Based off of these hints…we believe that Ifrit fought Karlobos who was guarding one of rivers of the Underworld. The red lighting signifies battle. Ifrit won the battle since he has the Prawn Antennae in his hand. Upon being defeated, Karlobos creates a whirlpool that sucks Ifrit into the river. Visualize this hall room as a river that Ifrit has been sucked in to and must traverse to reach the Door to the Land of the Dead.
The first room players can enter is full of moving spikes and platforms. http://imgur.com/AjrpFrD
The spike platforms move up & down, left & right, its pure chaos in here. This room represents the whirlpool, created by Karlobos, which Ifrit has been sucked into.
The second room, we are challenged by some spinning pillars. http://imgur.com/dYbGC4E
We make our way to the top where we then have to jump onto the pillars to reach the next room. This room is after the whirlpool, Ifrit is under the water and must get to the surface. He is still stuck in a mighty river rapid represented by the player spinning as they stand on the top of the spinning pillars.
The third room has spinning wheels and platforms. http://imgur.com/VMlIPPA
The spinning wheels represent his struggle to stay at the surface as he’s still being drug down the river. At the end of this room the player slides down a steep slope. This is a waterfall, and Ifrit uses a spell as he crashes down. The next thing we see is a small cut scene of the door being blown off its hinges and landing in the main path of the hall way room. The cut scene for this is really odd…the door is blown off but it manages to stand up briefly and then falls down in an odd way….like a tree falling down. Ifrit uses this tree log to float or cling on to in his desperation to not drown.
Which leads us in to the fourth room. http://imgur.com/3WTNxrR
Here Ifrit is clinging on to his log, struggling to hang on. This is represented by all the obstacles that can push you off your platform. There comes a point in this room where the player is forced to react quickly or be hurt by spikes. And remember, the spikes here in Pitioss very likely represent lava. Ifrit is forced to stand and balance on top of his log as he floats down a river of fire. There’s a spike wall that you can barely squeeze past. Noctis even groans here. He’s getting closer now…
Finally you reach the shore & must scale up narrow ledges, like climbing up a narrow canyon. On the precipice there’s one final trial of a wall of lava on each side. http://imgur.com/5BPgvvZ
Ifrit has to squeeze through & finally jump off the cliff, landing safely in a circle of lava. Ifrit triggers a switch…the music changes and the Door to the Underworld opens…
THANK YOU to reddit user /u/PenguinSunday for pointing out that in this final room as you land in the circle of lava and hit the switch to open the door to Doomtrain's room, the music changes from What Lies Within (normal dungeon music) to Disquiet (the music that played during Noctis's nightmare) after you hit the switch.
Interestingly, hidden at the top of the door frame to enter the next room are some Marlboro Vines. This might be a hint as to what awaits in the next room. In FF8 Marlboro Tentacles are a key ingredient to finishing the quest to obtain the Doomtrain summon…also, this door is odd, it is spinning. This could be like a turnstyle at the entrance to a train station…
This next room is Doomtrain’s station in the Underworld. http://imgur.com/yjHBNik
There is imagery in here that references Charon from greek mythology, but In the Final Fantasy universe, Doomtrain plays this role. Don’t forget Doomtrain is in Amano’s Big Bang art. http://imgur.com/wqyhnL3
(Oh look…Noctis is riding on the back of Doomtrain…towards his death…)
Doomtrain/Charon ferries the souls of the dead to the Underworld. Upon death, a soul encounters the Ferryman, Charon, who ushers souls across the River Styx to the underworlds. Only those who could pay the fare with coins placed under their tongues are granted passage.
When the player enters the room, seeing Doomtrain for the first time, there is a long perch with a chrome bit on it. Doomtrain literally rolls up to the perch, and it is inserted in to his chin, just where the bottom of his tongue would be! Or you could take it as that it is going down his throat, he’s eating it. This perch is to offer coins for passage on Doomtrain! There are quite a lot of oracle ascension and rare coins in this room hmmm... http://imgur.com/MzNiBhD
After the first time the player has run through a compartment on Doomtrain and has continued along a path to enter the next compartment, there’s something odd in your way. A hand, jutting out of the wall. http://imgur.com/KWiH8JW
It’s as if the hand is saying “Tickets, please”!
Many people in our previous thread argued with us that this is NOT Doomtrain. And to an extent, they’re right, it isn’t. This skull contraption is a REPRESENTATION of Doomtrain. Ifrit needs this place to pass the test of time, an actual train would be difficult to maintain.
At the end of this room, before jumping through the last door, we pass through two small halls that highly resemble the exit terminal of a train station. The two pillars framing the exit, are unlike any other pillars seen in Pitioss. They resemble pillars you would see in a grand train station.
CHAPTER 3 “THE DEEP DESCENT”
After Doomtrain’s room, you’ve moved past the Gates of the Underworld. This is the realm of the dead, the point of no return. http://imgur.com/BqE6RQ1
Up to this point, you could have turned around and walked all the way out, but once you hit the switch to enter here, you cannot go back… we’re in it for the long haul now! Noctis even comments on this, saying, “Oh no…have to get back…have to get back…” http://imgur.com/IflYDfH
Time & space have no meaning in this room. It’s darkness and chaos. There is nothing in this room of chaos that looks like people from Solheim built. There’s cave outcroppings, even. http://imgur.com/kxyWkoZ
It’s clear that Ifrit is the architect from here on out. This place is woven with magic.
You can see Eos’s statue clearly at just one point while in this room. There is a ruby bracelet right where your player stands to see her. For thousands of years, Rubies was considered the stone of love. Like no other gemstone in the world, Ruby is the perfect symbol for powerful feelings. It can’t be any clearer that Ifrit dearly loves Eos. http://imgur.com/On4wiww
Right after this hall of chaos, the player’s perspective radically changes & a new somber song begins to play. The perspective of Noctis in this maze adds depth of space & time. This section could almost be seen as a time skip. It’s showing Ifrit’s long and very deep descent. Ifrit truly went to the depths of the planet. There are even Ammonite Fossils & Ancient Dragon Teeth items to represent just how deep he is going.
And then FINALLY, the reason Ifrit has trekked through absolute hell & faced so many dangers is before him. His true love, Eos, Goddess of the Dawn. http://imgur.com/zzM71af
We want to change our original statement that this is Eos’s actual corpse from our previous Pitioss theory post. This is definitely a statue, and we will prove she is a statue by the end of this thread.
So finally, Ifrit has reached his goal. This is Eos. As you walk closer to her, the whole room begins to spin. (At this point, we originally thought that Eos was dead at this part of the tale. However, Reddit User /u/TurtleBees worded it best and several other readers commented that Eos was likely alive at this point. Her picture in the Big Bang art, and her statue both depict her as having her eyes open. This and other points make more sense if Eos is alive here. Several points from here have been rewritten from the original post to convey this point.) What Ifrit sees before him, is not what he was expecting...there is something horribly wrong with Eos. The spinning room symbolizes Ifrit’s despair at finding Eos in this state. He came all this way to save her, only to find her chained and...not herself…It’s truly sad.
The player gets closer to Eos and soon the only way to continue is to jump onto her chest. We believe this is Ifrit embracing her & then quickly cutting her chains, freeing her. http://imgur.com/kruAgsG
Something to note here is that you find the Genji Gloves at her navel. http://imgur.com/XqH6F6b
This is key as to WHY Eos was imprisoned and sentenced to the Underworld. She was pregnant. Could she have fallen in love with a human, and become pregnant? That would be a huge taboo in the eyes of the other Astrals... http://imgur.com/B7Sosgw
In Final Fantasy Peasant’s Youtube video about our original Pitioss theory, he made a connection that we did not about the Genji Gloves. That is that Genji represents twins. He thought that could mean Eos gave birth to Ardyn & his brother Izunia. We disagree on that point. We strongly believe that the male twin is the one whose descendants would eventually become the Lucis Caelum family. And the other twin’s line led to the Nox Fleuret family. Ying & Yang. Both families are key to bringing about the Dawn. You can’t have light without dark. This explains why the Lucis & Nox family have powers separate from the crystal. They are part Astral. Only someone from the line of Lucis, descendants of Eos, could completely get rid of the star scourge & bring about the dawn. Regardless of who’s wrong or right, the fact remains that Eos DID exist and she had children, most likely with a human.
CHAPTER 4: “THE PANICKED ASCENT”
Now the player progresses by jumping off the top edge of Eos’s hanging rod to fall through to the next room. This part is jarring & scary. You slide down a long shaft very quickly. We believe this symbolizes the quick and sinking feeling you get in your stomach when you realize you’re in very real danger. Noctis takes huge damage from the fall, almost dying. http://imgur.com/2XANm3E
Something terrible has happened to Ifrit after embracing Eos and releasing her. Something that would make even an Astral at peak strength despair in terror. But what?? The story that follows next through symbolism & hints is the climax. Things. Get. Real.
Before this point, Ifrit’s journey led him down deeper and deeper into the Underworld. From this point on we only move up, Ifrit has started to make his way back.
The player boards an elevator, as the player rides the elevator, you can notice that it is a very quick ascent. Ifrit is running. He needs to get out.
At the top of the elevator we find several items strewn across the floor. http://imgur.com/AyNUDCq
Most all of them have a common theme: A blue choker to increase HP recovery, Safety Bit to protect from sudden death, Silver Bangle to increase HP, a Megalixer to restore full health. Ifrit is doing his best to keep Eos alive as he makes his escape...but also among the items are Fireproof Inners to protect from fire damage…but what could be burning Ifrit, the Astral of fire, The Infernian?! The answer is Star Scourge. Ifrit is being burned & is taking major damage.
Eos, the radiant Goddess of the Dawn has been imprisoned in pure darkness, surrounded by daemons and souls of the dead. She must have despaired from her fate and let the darkness overtake her, turning her once majestic light into the purest form of darkness to the point that it literally oozes out of her.
We next make our way up a narrow upwards path. Everything in this room is utter darkness. Watch Noctis at this part…he stumbles and trips. http://imgur.com/heCxGFo
This is a blind run towards the surface! Then…suddenly in the path, we get one last glimpse of Ifrit. http://imgur.com/avPKWYZ
His face has changed! He is skeletal, eyes sunken in. He is dying!! Compare pictures of his face from the first three Ifrit statues: http://imgur.com/lnlyxQo
Now take a close look at his current face vs the figure carrying Eos’s corpse in Amano’s Big Bang art: http://imgur.com/JLxTmOc
He is completely burned in the Big Bang art. His hair is charred off. His face is skeletal and damaged.
BUT…but…Perona…!! The figure in BB art has wings, and the Ifrit statue doesn’t! Don’t worry fam, we got you.
Now let’s continue. We really encourage you the player to play this part of Pitioss with this imagery in mind. This room is intense. Past the statue of Ifrit, the only path forward is random, twisted steel beams. The far end of the path is a dead end with a steep wall. There’s desperate scratch marks all over the wall, oozing star scourge. http://imgur.com/wjnQ4DB
Ifrit is going berserk, trying desperately to find his way out. At the dead end, you must turn around to follow another path which leads you back to the Ifrit statue. You must jump on top of Ifrit’s head to continue, once again taking his perspective. But…at the tip of his horns is an item. http://imgur.com/OLj564Z
The Golden Hourglass. Eos is running out of time. Time is literally weighing on Ifrit's head. Once again from Ifrit’s perspective, you must find the way out, a tiny steel beam, it’s his golden, shiny wire of hope!
The steel beam leads to a small tunnel, finally, they are able to ascend. This tunnel twists and turns in such a way it’s disorienting. Almost every surface in this tunnel is covered with oozing, desperate scratch marks and patches of large drag marks, oozing star scourge. You can SEE the terror Ifrit must have felt while desperately trying to claw his way out of the Land of the Dead while clinging to his beloved as her life is quickly fading. http://imgur.com/P3362KR
CHAPTER 5: “THE CHASM OF MANY DOORS”
Finally Ifrit has found his way out of the realm of the dead, but before him still lie many obstacles. Ifrit enters a large room with several doors. We as the players have been in this room before, but narratively this is now representing a different area. This is suggested by the continuing dungeon music playing, whereas the first time we come here a different song plays.
Remember how earlier we discussed that Ifrit originally entered via the Lestallum Crater? But in episode Gladio, Gladio and Cor will probably enter the Underworld through Taelpar Crag. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ
So narratively, think of Ifrit and Eos being located somewhere deep in Taelpar Crag. Only….it’s not a Crag yet. It’s a cavern. Let’s not forget that Taelpar Crag was created sometime during the War of the Astrals… http://imgur.com/u09FTuc
So you as the player are completing the last obstacles of Pitioss on your trek out. From Ifrit’s point of view, he knows that he is on the final legs of his ascent with Eos. He keeps looking for a way out, ripping doors open forcefully, climbing through tunnels, traversing pitfalls…but they are all dead ends. http://imgur.com/TZaQSqK
Time is running short for Ifrit, and he has no way out…at one point in this part of your trek out of Pitioss you find the Pendulum accessory…another allusion to running out of time. http://imgur.com/O2g8rZl
At this point we believe Ifrit goes berserk and starts rampaging in the cavern. He can’t find a way out, so he MAKES a way out. Perhaps in his rampaging he causes a major earthquake that tears the Crag open, creating Taelpar Crag as we see it today.
He has finally found his exit
This exit point, must be the “entrance” in Taelpar Crag that Gladio will use in Episode Gladio. It will be interesting to see what happens with Episode Gladio, if he truly does enter the Underworld through Taelpar Crag…then this would only further prove what we are writing here. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ
A few other items found on your way out are: Warm Inners (Reduces DMG from ICE), Insulated Inners (Reduces DMG from Lightning), and 2 Behemoth Horns (Bahamut is the Arabic word for Behemoth). Could Ifrit have been anticipating an encounter with Shiva, Ramuh, & Bahamut?? Either way, it’s clear an attack didn’t occur, most likely because Ifrit and Eos are literally oozing Star Scourge . The last thing the other Astrals would want to do is touch Star Scourge. Clearly, it is poisonous to Astrals, too.
Regardless, this is the last leg of Ifrit’s journey out of the Underworld. The last hallway before the player exits the ruins we find an excessive amount of healing items and the Black Hood. http://imgur.com/oCj5iLQ http://imgur.com/RLIxQe7 It is here that Eos meets her end...Ifrit used all the items and spells that he could, but it was not enough...Eos was too far gone. Just as we exit, we find the Black Hood...Eos died just as she was brought back into the sunlight...she was able to see the day one final time after her eternity of torment.
We then jump out of the side of the building. Not where we entered, but close by, mimicking Ifrit’s final exit from the Underworld.
One last question remains… If all Ifrit wanted was to be with Eos, why not just die with her down in the Underworld? She is not far from death's door, and he knows that he is going to die, so why the frenzied escape from the depths?
EPILOGUE: “The True Story of FFXV Revealed”
Well, Perona77, that’s a nice little theory you two have there, but it’s only a THEORY! It’s not canon unless there's proof in the game!
We were convinced that this tale HAD to be true. All of the imagery is there, it is nearly impossible to dispute in at least some of the areas…but it wasn’t enough, there were still pieces missing to this puzzle.
There’s nowhere to look for information about Ifrit. The Hexatheon don’t speak of him, there’s no lore in game, all we know is that he is “The Betrayer”. So we turned to the only interaction we have with Ifrit in the entire game, the battle at the Citadel, hoping for SOMETHING. And boy, did we find something! http://imgur.com/id7RSBy
This short conversation conveyed SO much. Shiva calls Ifrit “Pyreburner”. That’s an odd choice of words…a Pyre refers to a cremation burial…
“That heart of flame was turned to ash once”…what could have turned Ifrit’s heart, master of fire, into ash?
“A dead flame must burn no more”…Why is he a dead flame??
“Taste again the chill wind of death”….So Shiva confirms in game that Ifrit has died before.
Pyreburner… He has burned a pyre. This is proof that he has handled a corpse. This perfectly falls into place with everything we have laid out for you about Pitioss Ruins. But somehow, this still isn’t quite enough…
And then we saw it...
http://imgur.com/TChYBA0
Do you see it?? They've been in front of our faces this whole time!
Ifrit burst out of Taelpar Crag, carrying Eos…and lit a Pyre at the nearby Rock of Ravatogh in order to purify her and save the last bit of her light buried deep inside her heart. He laid his beloved Eos down, lit the Pyre, and collapsed in death next to her, and while embracing her body, burned along with her. As her corpse burned, the ash and smoke rose in the sky, releasing the star scourge throughout the planet. And all that remains are her fossilized wing, and his crystalized horns, still visible from atop The Rock of Ravatogh to this day. http://imgur.com/829cqW6
During the quest “Ascend The Rock Of Ravatogh” Vyv says, “if you really want to impress people, you’ve got to show them something they’ve never seen before. They say there’s a cave near the summit that offers the finest view in all of creation.” This is a sublte hint from square enix! When you arrive at the cave to photograph it for Vyv.…there’s an item nearby. A RUBY BRACELET. Now why say it’s the finest view in all of creation, when it’s just a tiny cave with lava that you can’t even enter? Let’s take a closer look at it…. http://imgur.com/hxgqEhd
Huh. This reminds us of something… http://imgur.com/4knAvLR
That isn't a cave, it's a crystallized heart. See the veins sticking out? It's Eos' heart! It has a hole in it…the same shape and size of the Dark Lucian Crystal. Let’s see what Bahamut has to say about the Crystal. http://imgur.com/XF86yoy
The soul of the star is in the crystal. The sun is a star. Eos’ soul is in the crystal. This is why it can restore the Dawn. The crystal contains a small shred of the goodness and light that once was Eos. Ifrit saved her just in time, before the last of her light was extinguished. If he had not gotten Eos’ out when he did, and purified her body with the Pyre, her light would’ve gone out, bringing eternal night. Burning her on the Pyre spread the star scourge into the air, but it was a necessary evil.
But how was the Crystal retrieved?? Let’s look at Ifrit during the Citadel battle. http://imgur.com/PpxwtZR
After Ifrit transferred his soul to his nearby messenger, he must have returned to the Pyre after the flames died down. He must’ve cut open her heart and reached inside to retrieve the Crystal. That is why he has burns on half of his body. Her burning, crystalized heart was still that hot! At some point, Bahamut must’ve stolen the Crystal from him. Also, at some point after his first death and retrieving the crystal from Eos’ heart, Ifrit in his messenger’s body must have built Pitioss ruins.
At the cost of his life, at the cost of becoming a Betrayer, at the cost of spreading star scourge unto the world. If Ifrit had not saved Eos when he did, the last of her light would've been extinguished, and there never would of been another dawn!
Ifrit is the hero of this game! Not the Lucian Kings, not The Oracles, and certainly not the other Astrals! Ifrit unintentionally save the world with his act of pure love. http://imgur.com/25AG2hq
But why do the other Astrals call him The Betrayer? We know Titan was blocking his entrance. They most likely believed that nothing was wrong, and Eos would be fine in her prison of utter darkness, continuing the cycle of Dawn for all eternity. In their eyes, all they see is Ifrit coming forth from the Underworld with the Punished One, festering with Star Scourge. In their eyes, Ifrit is to blame for bringing forth the Star Scourge. Wow, they’re assholes. Hmm…who else acts like this? The Gods in Greek & Roman Mythology!! They’re Astrals, Divine Beings, couldn’t they of purified the crystal themselves? It’s pure malice that they put this on humans. They want every trace of the original Eos to be erased, and if her bloodline can’t do it, then fuck the planet, enjoy your eternal night.
Ifrit then continued to oppose the other Astrals plans to have the Lucian line purify the Crystal. If Eos is reborn, then it would no longer be “HER”. Ifrit goes as far as to side with and aid Ardyn , slowing the plans of the other Astrals for centuries. Even in the battle at the citadel, Ifrit fights to the death to protect the last sliver of his Beloved. My god…how tragic is this?!? He fought SO hard to save Eos, literally going to the depths of hell & back, giving up his life, only to die in the end, and knowing that his efforts were for naught.
http://imgur.com/cFPnGct
How appropriate is Chapter 0 now?! This story begins and ends with Ifrit.
Even the song, Somnus, fits in to the story of this game now:
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God (Eos) sleeps
And his (her) children (Lucians) start a fire (Ardyn)
Which they cannot extinguish
And he (she) will never be able to awake.
Every tragedy divides,
before our very eyes,
the things which should be loved.
And in this endless night,
In despair,
He (she) can see the dawn
That will awake him (her) in the next morning
That’s why the developers left Somnus in the game! That’s why it plays during your last trek through Insomnia! It still applies!
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FURTHER EVIDENCE: Let’s look at more evidence that this is Ifrit’s corpse next to Eos on the Rock of Ravatogh.http://imgur.com/JLxTmOc
These rock formations perfectly match up to where the horns of Ifrit are seen on the Rock of Ravatogh.http://imgur.com/db15wdd
THANK YOU to reddit user /u/stomp_office for investigating the Rock of Ravatogh and finding this! Pics of a foot and you can even make out a toenail. https://imgur.com/gallery/HrKYy
THANK YOU to reddit user /u/knixion for his find at the Rock of Ravatogh! "I was checking the Heart of Eos and I found the remaining Crystal shards around the heart. You can see the Shards clearly shining looking through the Noctis Camera." Heart of Eos: http://imgur.com/gallery/9N3D0
THANK YOU to reddit user /u/AstralElement for pointing out the painting of what was "Etro" or Eos from FFVXIII : http://i.imgur.com/bCtZW64.jpg Shows her with a hole in her stomach in the exact same position as the statue.
Next, bring up your world map and zoom into the Rock of Ravatogh area. You can see Ifrit’s horns, Eos’ wing, Ifrit’s wings & spine…but look closely. Do you see the skull of Eos near her wing?? Screenshots don’t pick it up very well because it’s very faint, but it’s there. Go look! There’s a faint underlying purple color that stands out and looks like a x-ray. You can make out bits and pieces of Eos’ & Ifrits’ bones. Astral bones on the world map and no one noticed! Here’s the best picture we could get: http://imgur.com/qEaBvTr
Go ahead and visit The Rock of Ravatogh right now. Let’s take a fun tour! First, what do you see strewn throughout the entrance and dungeon of Ravatogh? http://imgur.com/XteOuom
Those are giant logs of petrified wood. They’ve been stacked up for a pyre & petrified in the pyre blaze.
Ravatogh Tour Part 2: Owlyss Haven. http://imgur.com/JTE3I4g
Owl in latin is Aegolius, and refers to a group of birds of prey who are thought to be an ill omen. So Aegolius refers to a genus of owls, the most common being Boreal Owls. The genus name for Boreal Owls is Aegolius Funereus. Translation: An ill-omened funeral. So SQ even went so far as to leave a hint at a campground!!
Ravatogh Tour Part 3: Can’t leave out the crystallikzed heart of Eos! http://imgur.com/hxgqEhd
Go ahead and take a tour of your own. Lots of things look like body parts. We’ve been trying to place the various body parts of Eos & Ifrit in Rock of Ravatogh, but can’t 100% nail everything down. We do have our suspicions, though. We personally believe that the arch you walk under to get to Owlyss Haven is Eos’ Pelvic bone. That would make Owlyss literally her womb…The Tomb of the Fierce could be placed Eos feet. Heck, the Mace of the Fierce even kind of resembles bones found in the foot. But since SQ made a point of there being basically vultures present, a lot of their bones are scattered.
Evidence is even in this loading screen for Chapter 15!! http://imgur.com/uwdQhap
The Rock of Ravatogh is on the western side of the continent. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. The sun is setting over Eos’ wing…and the night is coming. Her story has ended. Her sun has set. And now she is waiting for the new Dawn.
Ardyn wears a coat with one black wing in the Kingsglaive movie. http://imgur.com/HtbCA6V
Regis’ crown is a subtle hint. He wears a stone crown that resembles a lock of Eos’ hair. PIC: http://imgur.com/22eCplf
This imagery of one wing raised to the sky has been around even back to Versus XIII days. http://imgur.com/g5sjRZ4
Another interesting thing to look at is the Vesperpool. Vesper is the Roman equivalent of the Greek demigod Hesperus. In Greek mythology, Hesperus is the Evening Star, the planet Venus in the evening. He is the son of the dawn goddess Eos. Hesperus' Roman equivalent is Vesper ("evening", "supper", "evening star", "west"). Hesperus' father was Cephalus, a mortal. The word "kephalos" is Greek for "head", perhaps used here because Cephalus was the founding "head" of a great family. Cephalus was one of the lovers of the dawn goddess Eos. So Vesper means "Evening Star".
What weapon do you find in the Vesperpoole tomb?? The Star of the Rogue. The Evening Star. Or rather,Hesperus, son of of Eos. And Hesperus's father was mortal, Cephalus, who was the head of a great family...
Tabata held an Active Time Report on February 2nd. During it, he was asked about Pitioss.
Q. How was Pitioss concept born? A. Some developer wanted to make Ramuh a massive floating head, but that didn't work out but he used his ideas for Pitioss.
So try and puzzle out how a floating head of Ramuh would’ve fit in with Pitioss, lol!
Daddy Tabata has created an awe-inspiring Masterpiece with Final Fantasy XV…it had just been locked away in the depths of Pitioss this whole time.
And now…just in case there’s any shred of doubt left in any of your hearts, we’re going to leave this beautiful photo…This is why Ifrit chose this location to build his Masterpiece… This is the final act of Ifrit’s play… This is the first thing you see on the horizon when leaving Pitioss Ruins. http://imgur.com/rZrHLCv
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Hekate / Hecate
(from my old amino before I got banned 😂, pretty much copy n pasted for reference)
Dogs/puppies [from https://hekatecovenant.com/resources/symbols-of-hekate/dogs/] -The dog was connected to spirits, the home (as a guard), a friend of the family, also symbolising an easy birth and fertility.  Represents the earth element. Also known as the 'black bitch'. Originated in ancient hymns, writings, ancient Greek pottery, stone carvings and statues. Its first symbolism came from the Trojan Queen Hekabe who leapt into the sea after the fall of Troy. Hecate took pity on her and turned her into a black dog which became her familiar. In some Greek towns, black female dogs were sacrificed in Hecate's honour, usually at night. Cerberus, the three-headed hound who guards the entrance of the Underworld is additionally connected to Hecate. In American + European folklore, dogs have always been seen as supernatural in the nature of what humans can't see. Black dogs are thought to roam the locations Hecate holds sacred; desolate roads, moors, cemeteries and the crossroads. Dogs attend her as she roams these desolate spaces. 
Dragons [credit to https://hekatecovenant.com/resources/symbols-of-hekate/dragon/]- There are loads of epithets of Hecate. One of her epithets comes from the name 'propylaya' meaning 'she who stands before the gate'. Her hound is believed to be the three-headed dog Cerberus who guards the gateway into the Underworld and some myths believed that dogs replaced dragons. There is imagery associated with Medea with riding her flying chariot escaping from Korinthos after the murder of the king Kreon. Her dragons were a pair of winged, serpentine dragons. 
Black lamb - A preferred sacrificial offering to Hecate. In modern times, it would be more suitable to have a representative of a black lamb such as a statue or photograph , or somehow getting a living black female sheep into your house without wrecking havoc in front of your altar (I don't recommend having a living animal on your altar!). 
Fire breathing Horse or Bull - Represents the fire element. It was symbolic of Hades fiery soul. Hecate is often seen in images crowned with bull-like crescent horns. Black bulls became heavily associated with Hecate as sacrificial animals in necromancy rituals. It is a constant reminder of her powers as creator and destroyer symbolised by the phases (waxing and waning) of the moon and seen in the crescent horns of a bull.
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Hydra headed snake or serpent [https://archetypicalwitchcraft.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/understanding-hekate-part-5-the-meaning-of-her-ancient-symbols/]- A solar and underworld symbol. Represents the water element. It was an ambivalent symbol just like the dog, it was connected to the sun, healing and regeneration. Yet there was also a link to the spiritual side, the underworld too. There was old folklore which believed spirits would appear as a snake to bless the house. Snakes, like domestic animals was said to be able to see and feel the presence of spirits, so they were used in necromancy and magic to figure out if there was spirits around. 
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Other associations are: frogs or toads; black bulls (draped in wreaths of yew and was then slaughtered in her honour);belladonna (poisonous herb!), cypress; dittany; mandrake; honey (anything sweet), dark chocolate (modern interpretation!); red wine (of course only if your in the age to use it, though your not going to be drinking it!);  torches;  infernal spirits; dagger; ebony; knives or daggers (obviously be safe and don't do any silly things with it!); twin torches; magickal brewing (so potions); silver; grey; bats; rope; black; mental health; hearth and home; dreams; divination; cauldrons; fate. MORE HERBS:  hazel, black poplar, cedar, willow, garlic, thyme, almonds, myrrh, mugwort, mint, dandelion, cardamom, hellbore, belladonna, hemlock, mandrake, hecateis (aconite, wolfsbane [poisonous]) opium poppy, verbena, sage, purple honeysuckle, camomile. Any hallucination herbs (be careful obviously and know your stuff and even then check it with someone who also knows their stuff). Owls, bears, ravens, cats (possibly) and donkeys. 
She is associated with yew, garlic, all poisonous herbs (use representations, so little tiny mushroom statues), oak, white, red, purple, ferrets (polecats), healing, healing herbs (more of the stronger ones and notorious ones), keys (Knowledge, unlocking wisdom, seeing the truth), mandrake, lamps, saffron, sandals in bronze or gold, whips, iron, the wolf, mullet (the blood-coloured goatfish), the new moon, twilight (best time to do rituals with her).
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Also MORE epithets ("An epithet is an honorary and praiseful descriptive title used as part of a name."), all taken and sourced from http://www.patheos.com/blogs/matauryn/2017/07/19/many-epithets-hekate/. 
Adamantaea ‘Unconquerable’, ‘Untamable Goddess’
Admêtos ‘Indomable’, ‘Unconquered’
Aenaos ‘Eternal’
Agallomenen Elaphoisi ‘Rejoicing in Deer’
Agia ‘Sacred’, ‘Holy’
Aglaos ‘Radiant’
Agriope ‘Wild-eyed’, ‘Fierce-faced’, ‘Savage-watcher’, ‘wild-voiced’
Agrotera ‘Huntress’
Aidônaia ‘Goddess of Hades’, ‘Of the Underworld”
Aimopotis ‘Blood-drinker’, ‘Murderer’
Aiônos ‘Eternal’
Aizêiοs ‘Vigorous’
Aktinochiatis ‘Radiant haired’, ‘With Rays for Hair’
Aktiophis [Of Unknown Meaning]
Alexeatis ‘Averter of Evil’
Alkimos ‘Powerful’, ‘Strong’, ‘Stout’, ‘Brave’
Amaimaketos ‘Unconquerable’, ‘Raging’, ‘Invincible’, ‘Unapproachable’, ‘Uncontrollable’
Ambrotos ‘Immortal’
Ameibousa ‘One That Transforms’
Amphiphaes ‘Circumlucent’
Amphiprosopos ‘Double-faced’
Amphistomos ‘Double-mouthed’
Anassa ‘Queen’
Anassa Eneroi ‘Queen of the Dead’
Androphonos ‘Killer of Men’
Angelos ‘Messenger’
Antaian Theou ‘She Who Meets’
Antania ‘Enemy of Mankind’
Aôroboros ‘Devourer of the Prematurely Dead’, ‘Devourer of the Untimely Dead’
Apanchomene ‘The Hanged One’
Apotropaios ‘Averting’, ‘Averter’
Aphrattos ‘Unnamed One’
Arêgos ‘Helper’
Archikos ‘Royal’
Ariste ‘The Best’
Ariste Cthonia ‘Best of the World’, ‘Best in the World’
Arkuia / Arkyia ‘Spinner of webs’, ‘Entrapper’
Arrhetos ‘Ineffable’
Astrodia ‘Star-walker’, ‘Star-Courser’
Atala ‘Tender’, ‘Delicate’
Atasthalos ‘Pretentious’, ‘Reckless’, ‘Presumptious’
Athanatos ‘Immortal’, ‘Of Immortal Fame’
Autophyês / Autopheus ‘Self-generating’. ‘Self-begotten’
Azonos ‘Without Borders’
Azostos ‘Ungirt’, ‘Without a Belt’
Baridouchos ‘Barque-holder’, ‘Skiff-holder’
Basileia ‘Queen’, ‘Princess’
Bolos ‘Far-Thrower’,
Boôpis ‘Cow-eyed’
Booporos ‘Ox-Herder’
Borborophorba ‘Eater of Filth’
Boukolos ‘Ox-Herder’
Brimô ‘Angry-One’, ‘Terrifying’
Buthios ‘Abysmal’, ‘Of the Depths’
Charopos ‘Ferocious-aspected’, ‘Fierce’, ‘Grim’, ‘Flashing’, ‘Bright, ‘Having blue-grey eyes’, ‘of the Sea’
Chthonia ‘Chthonic’, ‘Of the Earth”
Chrysôpis ‘Golden-faced’
Chrysosandalos ‘of Golden Sandals’
Chrysosandalaimopotichthonia ‘Goddess of the Lower World Wearing Golden Sandals and Drinking Blood’
Chrysostephanos ‘Golden-Crowned’, ‘Crowned with Splendor’
Chrysostephês ‘Golden-crowned’
Dadophoros ‘Torchbearer’
Dadouchos ‘Torch-bearer’
Daeira ‘The Knowing One’
Daidalos ‘Cunning’
Damasandra ‘Dominator of Men’, ‘Subduer of Men’
Damnamene ‘Means of Constraint’
Damnodamia ‘Subduer of Subduers’
Damnomeneia ‘Dominating Force’
Dasplêtis ‘Horror’, ‘Frightful-one’
Deichteira ‘Teacher’, ‘Revealer’
Deinos ‘Terrible’
Despoina ‘Lady’, ‘Mistress’
Dione ‘Goddess’
Doloessa / Doloeis ‘Astute-one’, ‘Subtle’, ‘Wily’, ‘Cunning’
Drakaina ‘Serpent’, ‘Dragon’
Eidôlios ‘Phantasmal’, ‘Ghostly’
Eileithyia ‘Nurse of Childbirth’, ‘Goddess of Midwives’
Einalian ‘Of the Sea’
Einodia Thygater Demetros ‘Daughter of Demeter, who is of the Road’
Ekklesia ‘Of the Assembly’
Ekdotis ‘Bestower’
Elaphêbolos ‘Deer-huntress’, ‘Shooter of Deer’
Elateira ‘Driver’, ‘Charioteer’
Ellophonos ‘Fawn-slayer’
Epaine ‘Awe-Inspiring’, ‘Glorious’, ‘Sublime’
Empousa / Empusa [Of unknown meaning, related to the monster Empusa and the idea of phantoms and specters]
Empylios ‘At the Gate’
Empyrios ‘Empyrean’
Enodia ‘Of the crossroads’, ‘Of the Roads’, ‘Of the Path’
Ephodia ‘Traveling Expenses’, ‘Provisions for the Road’, ‘Traveling Supplies’, ‘Resources’
Ephoros ‘Guardian’ ‘Overseer’
Epigeioi ‘of the Earth’
Epiphanestate Thea ‘the Most Manifest Goddess’
Epipurgidia ‘on the Tower’
Episkopos ‘Guardian’, ‘One who Watches Over’, ‘Overseer’
Epiteichea ‘The Stronghold’, ‘Fort’
Epi-tymbidia ‘Sepulchral’
Eranne ‘Lovely’
Erannos ‘Lovely’
Ergatis ‘Energizer’
Êrigeneia ‘Daughter of morning’, ‘Early-born’
Erôtotokeia / Erototokos ‘Bearer of love’, ‘Producing Love’, ‘Who Bore Love’
Eukoline ‘Good Tempered’
Eupatepeia ‘Noble-born’
Eurippa ‘Horse-finder’
Geneteira ‘Mother’
Genetyllis ‘Birth-Helper’, ‘Goddess of Childbirth’, ‘Midwife’
Gigaessa ‘Giant’
Gorgo ‘The Grim’, ‘The Gorgon’
Hecatoncheires ‘Hundred-handed’
Hegemonen ‘Guide’
Hêgemoye ‘Queen’
Helike ‘Revolving’
Hersechthonia ‘Speaking From Below’
Hexacheira ‘Of Six Ways’, ‘Of Six Hands’
Hiera ‘Holy One’
Hieros Pyr ‘Holy Fire’
Hipparete ‘Horse-Speaker’
Hippokyon ‘Mare Bitch’, ‘Horse Dog’
Hippoprosopos ‘Horse-Faced’
Hypolampteira [Of Unknown Meaning – possibly related to light or brightness]
Iocheaira / Iokheaira ‘Arrow-shooter’, ‘One who Shoots Arrows’
Indalimos ‘Beautiful’
Ippokyôn ‘Mare-Dog’, half dog/ half horse
Ippoprosôpos ‘Horse-faced’
Kalkaea ‘Wearer of High Boots’
Kalligeneia ‘Bearing Beautiful Offspring’
Kalliste ‘Fairest’
Kapetoktypos ‘Tomb-disturber’, ‘Causing the Noise of Lamentation’
Kardiodaitos ‘Heart-Eater’, ‘Feasting on Men’s Hearts’
Kareia ‘of Karia’, ‘Kraus’
Karko ‘Lamia’, ‘Child-Eating’, ‘Nocturnal Spirit’
Katachthonia ‘Subterranean’
Katakampsypsaychenos ‘Bender of proud necks’
Kelkaia [Of Unknown Meaning]
Keratôpis ‘Horned-faced’, ‘Horned Looking’
Keroeis ‘Horned’
Kthonia ‘Of the Underworld’, ’Of the Earth’
Kleidouchos / Kleidoukhos ‘Key-holder’, ‘Key-keeper’
Klôthaiê ‘Spinner of fate’
Kore ‘Maiden’
Kourotrophos ‘Child’s Nurse’, ‘Nurse of Youths’
Krataios / Kratais ‘Powerful’, ‘Dominator’, ‘Of the Rocks’
Krokopeplos ‘Saffron-Cloaked’
Kunolygmatos ‘Doglike Howler’, ‘Who howls doglike’
Kydimos ‘Glorious’
Kynegetis ‘Leader of Dogs’
Kynokephalos ‘Dog-Headed’
Kynolygmate ‘Howling Like a Dog’, ‘Who Howls Dog-like’
Kyôn ‘Bitch’, ‘Dog’
Kyôn Melaina ‘Black Bitch’, ‘Black Dog’
Kyria ‘The Powerful’, ‘The Supreme’
Laginitis ‘Of Lagina’
Lampadephoros ‘Lamp-bearer’, ‘Torch-bearer’, ‘Who Warns of Nighttime Attack’
Lampadios ‘Lamp-bearer’, ‘Torch-bearer’
Leaina ‘The Lioness’
Leontoukhos ‘Holding a Lion’
Leukophryne ‘White-Browed’, ‘Of the White-Browed Hill’
Limenitis ‘Harbor Goddess’
Limenitikos ‘Of the Harbor’, ‘Harbor Goddess’
Limenoskopos ‘Of the Threshold’, ‘Watcher of Havens’, ‘On the Harbor’, ‘Watching the Harbor’
Liparokredemnos ‘Of the Bright Headband’, ‘Bright-Coiffed’
Liparoplokamos ‘Brilliant-Braided’
Lochias ‘Protector of birth’, ‘Goddess of Childbearing’
Lykaina ‘She-wolf’
Lyko ‘She-wolf’, ‘Wolf-formed’
Maera ‘Shining’
Mageus ‘One who Kneads’ [Possibly related to Magi]
Makairapos ‘Blessed-one’
Medeousa / Medusa ‘Protector’, ‘Guard’, ‘Gorgon’
Meisopomenos ‘Laborer of the Moon’
Meisoponeros ‘Vice-Hating’
Megiste ‘Greatest’
Melaine ‘Black’
Melaneimôn ‘Black-clad’, ‘Wearing Black’
Melinoe ‘Soothing One’
Mene ‘Moon’
Moira ‘A Share’, ‘Fate’
Monogenes ‘Only Child’
Monoprosopos ‘With One Face’
Mormo ‘She-Monster’
Munychia [Of Unknown Meaning]
Nekuia / Nekyia ‘Goddess of death’, ‘Mistress of corpses’
Nerteria ‘Infernal’, ‘Subterranean’, ‘Nether One’
Nerterios ‘Infernal’, ‘Subterranean’, Nether One’
Nerteron Prytanin ‘Mistress of the Dead’
Noctiluca ‘Light of the Night’, ‘Night Shiner’
Noeros ‘Intellective’
Nomaios ‘Pastoral’
Nychia / Nykhia ‘Nocturnal’ ‘Nocturnal-One’ “Goddess of Night’
Nyktairodyteira ‘Night Riser and Setter’, ‘She that Rises and Sets by Night’
Nykteria ‘Of the Night’
Nykti ‘Of the Night’
Nyktiboos ‘Night-Shouter’, ‘Night-Crier’
Nyktipolos ‘Night-Wandering’
Nyktophaneia ‘Night-shining’
Nymphen ‘Bride’
Nyssa ‘Goader’, “Goal’, ‘Beginning’, ‘Turning Post’, ‘Ambition’
Oistrophaneia ‘Manifester of Madness’
Oistroplaneia ‘Spreader of Madness’, ‘Causing the Wanderings of Madness’
Oksyboê ‘Shrill-screamer’, ‘Shrieker’
Oletis ‘Destroyer’
Opaon ‘Follower’
Opheôplokamos ‘Coiled with Snakes’, ‘With Snaky Curls’
Oriplanos ‘Mountain-roamer’, ‘Mountain-Wandering’
Oroboros ‘Tail-Eating’
Ourania ‘Celestial’, ‘Heavenly’
Ouresiphoites ‘Wanderer in the Mountains’
Oxythymia ‘Gallows’, ‘Quick to Anger’
Paggennêteira ‘Mother of All’
Paiônios ‘Healer’
Pammêtôr ‘Mother of All’
Pandamateira ‘All-tamer’, ‘All-powerful’, “All Subduer’, ‘Master of all’
Pandina [Of Unknown Meaning – Possibly related to ‘whirling’ or ‘rotating’]
Pandôteira ‘All-giver’, ‘One who gives everything’, ‘Bestower of Everything’, Bounteous’
Pangaios ‘World-wide’
Panopaia ‘All-seeing’, ‘One who sees everything’, ‘Panorama’
Panta Ephepousa [Of Unknown Meaning]
Pantos Kosmou Kleidokhos ‘Keeper of the Keys of the Cosmos’
Pantrephô / Pantrophos ‘All-nurturing’, ‘All-sustaining’, ‘who feeds all’
Parthenos ‘Virgin’
Pasikrateia ‘Universal Queen’, ‘All-powerful’, ‘who dominates all’
Pasimedeonsa ‘All-guarding’, ‘All-protecting’
Pasimedousa ‘Ruling Over All’
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