#4x1 the munsters

[tomwambsgans]

hands down funniest thing he's ever said

#roman roy #nan pierce #4x1 the munsters #nine b lives in my brain #mine

[tomwambsgans]

that one little squint greg does in 2x7 and 4x1

#greg hirsch #tomgreg #2x7 return #4x1 the munsters #gifs #mine #i looove him

[tomwambsgans]

tomgreg + cum

#i was gonna add 'i drank things that arent normally drinks but this felt more cohesive #tomgreg #1x8 prague #3x2 mass in time of war #4x1 the munsters #mine

[tomwambsgans]

tom wambsgans + who's afraid of virginia woolf ? (1966)

#tomgreg #tom wambsgans #4x1 the munsters #4x7 tailgate party #tomshiv #gifs #mine #there's a lot of really specific parallels that i might make another post about #but for this i really mainly wanted to gif the tomgreg thing #also the original play was written by a gay man and i HAVE to think that george is meant to be closeted #bc of little details dropped about exactly why he and martha don't work

[tomwambsgans]

kerry(of logan) + greg(of tom)

#kerry castellabate #greg hirsch #tomgreg #logankerry #4x1 the munsters #4x2 rehearsal #and this is just the most overt stuff #there's like.. the fact that marcia easily parallels shiv here #losing her husband to a mistress who is his assistant #but also not really losing bc they still get all the assets (so far) #mine

[tomwambsgans]

#greg hirsch #succession spoilers #4x1 the munsters #here's my contribution #but naw fr i clutched my pearls when he said the tick on the chart thing like WHAT... GREG NO #but also like tears of joy bc of how obvious it is the path that he's gonna be taking #like he's trying to do frat boy homoeroticism with tom this is insane #mine

[tomwambsgans]

UH so okay uh. greg is 100% having random casual sex purely so he can tell tom about it. like that is undeniably what is happening

#tomgreg #succession spoilers #4x1 the munsters

[tomwambsgans]

idk why i didn't really think about it before but kerry asking greg for bridget's full name, already presuming he doesn't know it, then THIS

like shit this is not the first or even probably the second time that greg has brought a tinder date specifically to an event like this huh. probably also isn't the first or second time that he's almost immediately abandoned said date once he saw tom but anyway that also really tracks with this,

which gives me the sense of, alongside all the obvious and by now thoroughly-discussed comphet and tomgreg going on with greg's dates, it's gotta be a huge factor that it gives greg a sense of power and independence that he didn't have before, like in a business way, not entirely related to the fact that his dates are girls that he's not actually into at all. like how he talks to kerry here makes it so clear. he's repeatedly trying to assert that he's not extraneous, that he can be the one who brings someone extraneous.

#greg hirsch #tomgreg #4x1 the munsters #mine #meta #greg

[tomwambsgans]

split seconds before slaughter

#god greg's curled hand ready to grab tom..... #tomgreg #4x1 the munsters #mine

[tomwambsgans]

That's also Bertrand Russell.

#greg hirsch #ewan roy #1x5 i went to market #2x7 return #all the bells say #4x1 the munsters #4x7 living plus #mine #gifs

[tomwambsgans]

i'd fully believe that tom didn't do anything remotely sexual with any women between seasons 3 and 4 anyway, but his conversation with shiv about naomi in 4x1 really seals it for me. like whether it was a purposeful mindfuck or if tom simply figured that it might look like a date and just wanted to get ahead of it, it's really clear that they haven't had any other conversations of this nature. especially considering shiv's half-serious interrogation of tom at the end of the episode. if tom was actually doing anything with anyone else (who was a woman) he would undoubtedly tell her. like, if only to hurt her, or get even in some way. but clearly shiv knows of nothing, therefore, he did nothing. and this is bc tom is gay and coming to finally fully realize it during that interim and only has eyes for greg anyway but that's a different post which i've definitely already made several times lol

#tom wambsgans #4x1 the munsters #mine

[tomwambsgans]

so i've now watched the 1952 importance of being earnest specifically bc of the "capacious handbag" line from tom, figuring that the (almost certainly) purposeful reference may have more significance than just wanting arbitrarily to establish tom as a wilde fan (and i otherwise wasn't already super familiar with the play so), and BOY was i right

first of all, if we were to put tom in the main role, then take the handbag line and its context - tom quipping about the size of it, asking what she could possibly fit in there. well, that aforementioned capacious handbag in the original context had in fact contained a baby. that baby was accidentally dropped off in that bag at a train station, and found and then raised into the man who is the main character Ernest. do some quick literary math here and it's tom in the bag. greg's date, carrying tom around. you could say that the concept of "greg's romantic interest" and "tom" are physically connected. idk. kind of a stretch but also not, bc the bag that tom references containing the baby who is ernest who is tom is inarguably Something.

then there's ernest trying to marry his good [lowkey homoerotic] friend algernon's cousin, and algernon not wanting him to do so, which doesn't remain the truth the whole time but it's a decent little parallel

along that vein, what stands out to me most strongly is this dialogue:

now, there wouldn't be any solid *unambiguous* message to pick out from this even if we knew for certain that the allusion was intended to utilize the entire play as like some kind of pseudo sister-narrative or whatever BUT. i think it's fair enough to say that there was intentional depth there one way or another, given the very deliberate nature of everything about succession... so this is something to think about.

#4x1 the munsters #tom wambsgans #tomgreg #THE VERY ESSENCE OF ROMANCE IS UNCERTAINTY!!! #also all the stuff about greg kinda like. trying hard to BE tom fits in well with the mistaken identity stuff in the play #mine #meta

[tomwambsgans]

tellis + greg

they both serve very explicit role of giving other characters the "read" on situations and are compensated well, and begrudgingly so (by the sibs) because they're not necessarily specially equipped. though the fact of the matter is that the sibs need a "pitch wall" and a second (fourth) opinion to reinforce their own value. there are general parallels here but there's also a sense of literal, in-universe replacement of greg in the sibs' life when he's not around, because he was useful in ways that they need even if they don't value him as a person.

#greg hirsch #cyrus tellis #4x1 the munsters #with open eyes #meta #mine

[tomwambsgans]

tom's battle with himself and his pathological fear of change finally coming to a close but not without the epilogue of "I can see if I could make love to you" just as one last noncommittal try for maintaining something familiar rather than straying into unknown territory.... but it's so clearly lacking in desire behind it, it's just sadness at how things have to change. that makes me sad, he says, a statement without action. there's no fighting to keep her bc he really has accepted that it's not a good relationship, that attachment is not enough, it's just, even if it doesn't amount to a reconciliation he'd at least like to see evidence that this person who's been important to him for so long would want to try..... and ultimately that last comfort being taken in that, at the very least, it makes her sad too. yeah.

#tom wambsgans #4x1 the munsters #succession spoilers #mine #meta #i really do think that a fear of change is at the core of it #like otherwise it just would not have lasted this long #he's clearly been wanting out of the obligation of this relationship for a while now so he could be emotionally free #like he couldn't have possibly expected them to stay together after pushing her down the stairs #he just didn't want to connect these things in his mind because. yeah he wants the change but he's terrified of it

[tomwambsgans]

greg having to say shit like "bingo bongo that bango" and then sounding absolutely mortified when he actually has to describe what he did, which yknow could have been easily, objectively just called "mutual hand stuff" but instead he acted like he had to create some plausible deniability that he was even talking about sex at all, saying "had a bit of a rummage" is sooooo like........ this guy cannot describe sex with a woman (but he COULD say "which, the cum?" hmmm) like i guarantee if someone was offering greg a million dollars to say the word pussy he'd still gag and puke in his mouth a little with the effort

#THAT is how gay this bitch is #he is SO thinking of tom the entire time so that he only ever conceptualizes the 'notch' after the fact #greg hirsch #4x1 the munsters #succession spoilers #mine

[tomwambsgans]

it changes nothing about the accidental sex tape whether they came or not so really tom was just asking if greg came either 1) to tease him about the fact that he probably didn't or 2) just to know. just to know if greg came

#tomgreg #succession spoilers #4x1 the munsters #mine