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strawhatsemerald · 1 month
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You know what I also hear about Zoro and Sanji's relationships?
That it’s got drama, it’s got anger issues, it’s got feelings of insecurity, it’s got unhealthy coping mechanisms, it’s got devotion, it’s got bloodlust, it’s got the whole crew pulling their hair out because they were fighting a second ago and now they’re making out while taking breaths to still make fun of each other.
I am seruous now. And I'm like... WHERE?! Isn't that frickin Whiskey Peak for Zolu? And what about Zolu? Doesn't it got all of that? That is not headcanons?
& no drama??? What is Zoro saying he'll quit the crew if Luffy can't choose to be a proper Captain & set his foot down, when Luffy is extremely upset over Usopp leaving???
Zoro also being insecure of not even being strong enough to protect Luffy & his crew??
Also who has the most bloodlust of the crew?? Luffy & Zoro!! Sanji's dream isn't even to be the strongest, he just wants to find the best legendary seafood ever & run the best restaurant in the world. Whereas Luffy & Zoro's dreams require them to be the strongest fighters ever- & Luffy n Zoro are the ones who enjoy themselves, make jokes & laugh the most while fighting!!
What is Luffy's unhealthy coping mechanism? Being extremely hedonistic in avoiding of his own emotional pain (eg taking hallucinogenic mushrooms when he's at his saddest point), being ultra self-sacrificial for people he just knew, making extreme deals he might fail to live up to if the people he befriends don't help him enough (eg literally in his first meeting with Zoro he accepts the consequence of having to commit seppuku/kill himself if he blocks Zoro from Zoro's dream!!)
& Zoro's unhealthy coping mechanism?? He's so extremely kind to people he can emphatize with that he risks his whole life just for them with little to no reward (eg defending that girl delivering him the onigiri... still wanting to keep Luffy safe risking his guts popping out, even tho he initially complained of how dumb Luffy is in just having one tiny boat with no navigator...),
Training + emotionally burdening himself too hard whenever he feels jealous/inadequate
Not revealing himself almost dying to Kuma, since Zoro actually doesn't want Luffy to kill himself because Luffy had almost killed Zoro... (Luffy might have killed himself anyway if he realizes Zoro died because of his mistake of wanting to adventure in Thriller Bark!!)
As in Zoro has almost the same types of unhealthy coping mechanism Luffy has!!
Zolu has drama too, but it's also accompanied with the sweetness & laughter/friendly mocking Zosan fans think only Zosan has. What's Luffy & Zoro's most comically toxic traits to each other? Their extreme expectations of each other! Them always being super hedonistic (eg Luffy eating all the time, getting trapped in strange places & not paying attention, Zoro falling asleep/getting lost in random places- they're very similar in their executive dysfunction!), Them competing who's less stupid than the other! Yet when they do this mocking of each other, they take it so much easier & it always leads up to them laughing & smiling at each other, approving each others' extreme tendencies!! (Eg literally after their Whiskey Peak fight of genuinely almost killing each other, they just banter  with big smiles over how excited they are to fight a Warlord, with Nami pulling her hair out over them!! Zoro & Sanji don't have this outside of anime-only filler arcs!!)
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strawhatsemerald · 1 month
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Now it is really disturbing, the persistence zosans in the zolu tags are pushing the idea that Luffy is asexual and cannot fuck or be fucked by Zoro, and therefore the best match for Zoro is Sanji…
Whom they are trying to convince of this more? Themselves or those who believe Zoro and Luffy fucking is perfectly fine? But seriously, when there is a person who says that they ship zolu and zosan, there will definitely be an addition that Luffy is aroace and cannot have sex, and therefore Zoro is only better with Sanji. This is some kind of sick obsession already.
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strawhatsemerald · 1 month
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I do not care about other ships, but I care when people use zolu tag to praise other ships, zosan specifically while putting zolu in a bad light, like these conversations about Luffy's asexuality with the obligatory addition that Zoro is better off with Sanji because they fuck while zolu cannot. And if you read using your eyes you will notice that my posts are exactly about the shit. You can headcanon all you want about Zoro having a thing for Sanji, but leave Luffy's sexuality out of this. This is so pathetic of you. Not to mention people like you use zolu tag specifically to show off, to praise the other ship.
And what do you mean by "i prefer zolu for luffy" if you literally used zolu tag to say how you ship zosan? You are such a hypocrite as any other zosan fans using zolu tags to only say how Luffy cannot fuck and that's why zosan is better. Disgusting.
i ship zolu
i ship lusopp
i ship zolusan
i ship lusan
cry about it. fandom and shipping is supposed to be fun. multi shippers aren’t hurting anyone. be chill guys.
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strawhatsemerald · 1 month
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It is funny how pathetic people like that cannot stand the truth.
If multishippers aren't hurting anyone why can't they just come up with their own tags so that people who are not into the shit don't have to see thу shit in the main tags? Not to mention the tags are used for showing off.
Oh, Luffy is aro/ace, he cannot fuck, so Sanji is a better choice for Zoro, because they can fuck! See! See!!
This is how that shit usually looks like and this is what the tags are usually used for.
i ship zolu
i ship lusopp
i ship zolusan
i ship lusan
cry about it. fandom and shipping is supposed to be fun. multi shippers aren’t hurting anyone. be chill guys.
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strawhatsemerald · 1 month
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Don't you think it's a strange coincidence that Zosan fans have been invading the Zolu tag lately? And every post is about how much they love Zosan, they praise the ship, but for some reason they use Zolu in the tags. Why can't they stay in their own space? Is this an attempt to show off or what?
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strawhatsemerald · 1 month
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Cannot reblog the shit, but you can read the whole disscussion here
And this is basically my answer to this.
This is actually disgusting as fuck. Stop giving ZoLu fans that aro/ace shit. And what's with that
Also, if we’re honest, canon Luffy really just is an aro/ace icon
shit?
Who said so? Zosan stans who are just so pathetic to prove there is any proof of their ship at all while there isn't, that they came up with that pathetic argument? It is just a headcanon! Nothing more. And lol no, there is no reason to ship Zoro with Sanji, people just see two white hot looking guys who has nothing in common but bickering. Everything else is just out of character and headcanons having nothing to do with actual manga or anime series. They are just another cliched yaoi couple you can see in every other yaoi manga. And it works only because it is cliched.
There is nothing wrong with Zoro and Luffy fucking (because there are a lot of spectrums, including demisexuals, who actually fuck), no matter what those Zosan stans, who you support, are saying. And you are protecting the fuckers? Those who're basically saying "oh I think Zoro and Luffy cannot fuck but Zoro and Sanji can so Zosan is better"? Really? You're just a fucking hypocrite who chose to defend another hypocrite who is literally shitting on ZoLu, because they cannot stand these particular characters fucking.
Also that line is funny
stop implying that everyone who ships Zosan is a depraved sex-freak
You serious? While saying this shit
I however personally headcanon Luffy as Aro/Ace so my primary ship for Zoro is Sanji.
THIS is basically saying "I want Zoro with Sanji because I want/see them fucking while Zoro and Luffy cannot"
This is just soooooo pathetic. And well, it actually proves Zosan shippers are depraved sex-freaks.
Otherwise posts like this wouldn't even exist
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strawhatsemerald · 1 month
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Like... If there is a zosan stan they will always claim Luffy is asexual and cannot fuck, that's why they ship Zoro with Sanji. Can we just stop with that bullshit, please? I know that zosan stans are desparate to have more proof of their ship than they can actually find... but this? You are basically saying that the only thing you ship Zoro and Sanji for is because of the fucking. Well, that's true, the ship is based on fucking only, no actual depth or canon proofs. Thank you for finally admitting it. And Aro/Ace Luffy is just a stupid headcanon. He can be demisexual as well.
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Gosh zosans are so desperate for their ship to be canon while there is nothing like even a good chemistry except stupid bickering they call sexual tention. So they just claim Luffy to be ace.... as if ace people cannot fuck.
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strawhatsemerald · 5 months
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What answers? I do not need your headcanons that have nothing to do with the actual characters and their personalities.
And lol no. You are basically saying that ZoSan is better than ZoLu because it has things ZoLu doesn't which is stupid as hell because all those things do not even exist, not in oroginal manga, not in LA. They are still headcanons. And no, zosan shippers do not like zolu, most of you tend to say that zolu is silly, has no chemistry or passion and that they do not fuck. Which is even more stupid.
Once again, take Sanji away and nothing will change, Zoro will be still Zoro, take Luffy away and Zoro will never be Zoro we know, there will be no Zoro without Luffy.
Zoro and Sanji have no relationships. You silly, everything is still headcanons you refuse to admit. Interestiong story? Still another cliched and stupid headcanon, give me facts, not your hopeless sick imagination. And it is not about a ship being canon, it is about the non sense you, zosan shippers, spread that is based on nothing but cliched tropes with two hot looking white guys bickering that you see as some sexual tention which it is not.
And I do not care what you are reposting or rebloging, you are just another hypocrite who uses a zolu tag to shove their zosan shit down people's throats, and saying that this ship has a story it never had. Because everything is still headcanons, nothing more, that is supported by the ship's popularity, doujins and fics. And I know what I am talking about because I used to ship these two when I was a teen and had no idea about the original manga, but after growing older I just understood that this shit is built on... nothing, nothing at all, just on headcanons people created about it over the years and that has no actual proof in original story. It is popular because it is a cliched trope, it is loved because people love what they've created, not the actual characters.
And yeah, I can get it that people ship characters that have no screen time but these people, who ship Sanji and Ace (which is also based on looks and so called hotness) never say it is better than zolu or more canon or other crap you, zosans, tend to do. I, at least, have never seen anything like that. Zosans yet? All the time people like you post shit (often using zolu tag) just to remind people how hot and how better the shit is because of the things that do not even exist. So do not even try lecturing me and telling me how you like zolu, ain't true.
why would someone like Zosan? I can tell you why if you want
Lol no, you cannot, because everything you say will have nothing to do with actual Zoro and Sanji.
I love how Zosan shippers also typically like Zolu. Zolu has the same general stupidity but it’s so much cuter. It’s easier to make religious imagery, and it’s easier to draw healthy conclusions to…but Zosan…
It’s got drama, it’s got anger issues, it’s got feelings of insecurity, it’s got unhealthy coping mechanisms, it’s got devotion, it’s got bloodlust, it’s got the whole crew pulling their hair out because they were fighting a second ago and now they’re making out while taking breaths to still make fun of each other.
Think of the crew in a Zosan universe. It’s the top gossip. Zoro falling for his captain and Luffy falling for his first mate? Adorable, predictable, a tale as old as time. Zoro falling for the flirtatious cook with anger issues and Sanji falling for the directionless swordsman who never showers? Think about the other straw hats gossiping about it, think about the news coos definitely snapping pictures of them yelling at each other and then wrapping each other wounds after a nasty spat. It would be the biggest scandal since Cross Guild and if I was a citizen in the One Piece universe I would pay for a special edition newspaper all about what’s been going on with them recently with headlines like, “Zoro and Sanji finally breaking up for good?!?! Strawhat chef says he’s ‘done with the ugly swordsman’ Could this be it for our on-again-off-again-pirate lovers?!?”
The next edition would be like, “A pirate marriage! Sanji and Zoro finally tying the knot?!” And I’d be hooked on every fucking word.
@certain-arcade-dinosaur this is all of my thoughts and feelings on the matter (this is a lie I could talk about these dipshits til I croak)
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strawhatsemerald · 5 months
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And another stupid thing. Which moment in manga, exept bickering, shows you this? Everything you have are still just headcanons, no any canonical proof from manga which is more canon than anime.
You may say that ZoLu is a headcanon too, but in comperison to ZoSan it has more of canon then you would ever have. Yours is still just a popular cliched trope people read as sexual tention and other shit that has nothing to do with actual characters. And I bet that your entire idea of this couple is based on other people’s headcanons, fan fiction and doujinshi, while ZoLu doesn’t need any of this because there are enough moments in the canon that directly say that there is no one as dearest to Zoro as Luffy. The words, buddy, we have the words directly from character's mouths. About devotion, care. Even in Wano, Zoro, thinking that Kaido killed Luffy, is ready to follow his captain to hell. He says this directly. What YOU have to prove there is something more than your imagination and headcanons between Zoro and Sanji?
And no, I do not want to hear what ZoSun shippers see, because I've seen enough, it will always be same cliched shit as it was years ago and nothing had changed. Old headcanons that have nothing to do with actual chracters and their personalities. People just saw two hot guys bickering and decided it's a thing. ZoSan isn't the first ship built on such shit, there are planty of those, so I am not even surprised.
I love how Zosan shippers also typically like Zolu. Zolu has the same general stupidity but it’s so much cuter. It’s easier to make religious imagery, and it’s easier to draw healthy conclusions to…but Zosan…
It’s got drama, it’s got anger issues, it’s got feelings of insecurity, it’s got unhealthy coping mechanisms, it’s got devotion, it’s got bloodlust, it’s got the whole crew pulling their hair out because they were fighting a second ago and now they’re making out while taking breaths to still make fun of each other.
Think of the crew in a Zosan universe. It’s the top gossip. Zoro falling for his captain and Luffy falling for his first mate? Adorable, predictable, a tale as old as time. Zoro falling for the flirtatious cook with anger issues and Sanji falling for the directionless swordsman who never showers? Think about the other straw hats gossiping about it, think about the news coos definitely snapping pictures of them yelling at each other and then wrapping each other wounds after a nasty spat. It would be the biggest scandal since Cross Guild and if I was a citizen in the One Piece universe I would pay for a special edition newspaper all about what’s been going on with them recently with headlines like, “Zoro and Sanji finally breaking up for good?!?! Strawhat chef says he’s ‘done with the ugly swordsman’ Could this be it for our on-again-off-again-pirate lovers?!?”
The next edition would be like, “A pirate marriage! Sanji and Zoro finally tying the knot?!” And I’d be hooked on every fucking word.
@certain-arcade-dinosaur this is all of my thoughts and feelings on the matter (this is a lie I could talk about these dipshits til I croak)
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strawhatsemerald · 5 months
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I can deny, what chemistry? Zoro is jealous because Sanji has a crush on Luffy. Everything else are stupid headcanons based on popular trope with two dudes bickering.
I'm too tired for that shit. Do ZoLu stans are really like that? Seeing this... chemistry... based on nothing and being like oh im zolu stan but i wanna see these two fucking just because? You sure you are zolu stans?
"That infuriating waiter guy! I'll keep an eye on him."
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P. S. I'm ZoLu for life but you can't deny the chemistry between these two insanely charming men 😍
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strawhatsemerald · 5 months
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Another stupid thing I've ever heard. ZoSan is built on headcanons only and on how hot two dudes, in their opinion, look with each other. That's it. And everything you've mentioned IS a huge headcanon, it has nothing to do with actual characters. Zoro is only bickering with Sanji, there is no drama, there is nothing, just a popular trope people choose just to have a reason to ship those who have nothing in common. Just looks. That's it. It is so funny to see when zosan shippers are trying to say there is something more to a ship than their own headcanons.
It’s got drama, it’s got anger issues, it’s got feelings of insecurity, it’s got unhealthy coping mechanisms, it’s got devotion, it’s got bloodlust, it’s got the whole crew pulling their hair out because they were fighting a second ago and now they’re making out while taking breaths to still make fun of each other.
Can anyone show me WHERE we can see all of this in actual canon? And episode? A moment? Not just some headcanons. I also love how ZoSan stans say "oh zolu is cute but they do not have what we do" and I am always like WHAT? What the fuck are you talking about?
The whole scene with Zoro giving up on his dream and his life for Luffy is already more than you, ZoSan stans, will ever get. It's already more than any of your headcanons. Because it shows there is only one man Zoro will be ready to give everything he has for.
I love how Zosan shippers also typically like Zolu. Zolu has the same general stupidity but it’s so much cuter. It’s easier to make religious imagery, and it’s easier to draw healthy conclusions to…but Zosan…
It’s got drama, it’s got anger issues, it’s got feelings of insecurity, it’s got unhealthy coping mechanisms, it’s got devotion, it’s got bloodlust, it’s got the whole crew pulling their hair out because they were fighting a second ago and now they’re making out while taking breaths to still make fun of each other.
Think of the crew in a Zosan universe. It’s the top gossip. Zoro falling for his captain and Luffy falling for his first mate? Adorable, predictable, a tale as old as time. Zoro falling for the flirtatious cook with anger issues and Sanji falling for the directionless swordsman who never showers? Think about the other straw hats gossiping about it, think about the news coos definitely snapping pictures of them yelling at each other and then wrapping each other wounds after a nasty spat. It would be the biggest scandal since Cross Guild and if I was a citizen in the One Piece universe I would pay for a special edition newspaper all about what’s been going on with them recently with headlines like, “Zoro and Sanji finally breaking up for good?!?! Strawhat chef says he’s ‘done with the ugly swordsman’ Could this be it for our on-again-off-again-pirate lovers?!?”
The next edition would be like, “A pirate marriage! Sanji and Zoro finally tying the knot?!” And I’d be hooked on every fucking word.
@certain-arcade-dinosaur this is all of my thoughts and feelings on the matter (this is a lie I could talk about these dipshits til I croak)
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strawhatsemerald · 7 months
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What really annoys me here (and I'll probably get hated for this, but someone had to say it) is when someone writes how much Zoro loves Luffy, how devoted and loyal he is to him, and that they don'tship Zoro with anyone but Luffy, there is always someone to say "oh, they could be in a poly relationship with other characters."
Yes, people can be in polyamorous and open relationships, they can have new lovers or orgies every single day… but this is clearly not what Zoro and Luffy's relationship is or will be like. I think when people say they love ZoLu that's what they mean. So why force the idea of polyamory on them? Why doesn't anyone consider that both can be monogamous or demisexual? Or is it no longer fashionable in the modern world to love one person and sleep with only one person?
For some reason, when it comes to ZoSan, no one talks about polyamory, everyone wants Zoro to love Sanji. So why can’t the same be said about ZoLu?
Personally, I don't see Luffy and Zoro with anyone other than each other either. Although I admit the fact that there was also powerful chemistry between Luffy and Sanji , at least in OPLA and the potential for a wonderful and healthy ship. And if Zoro weren't there, Sanji would be in his place. But Zoro is, right there. And that's a fact. Therefore, I don’t understand why some people consider it their duty to mention polyamory and open relationships in posts about Zoro and Luffy’s love, especially when the people who wrote those clearly mean love between Zoro and Luffy
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strawhatsemerald · 7 months
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It is funny that you have a problem with some harmless ship that you just feel the urge to voice it. Do you really think people are sure Oda would make it real? People just wanna dream a bit and be happy about it. It ain't a crime. Let people enjoy the ship they like, it isn't that difficult, is it? And no, you mentioned zolu in tags so we see it ON zolu tag, buddy.
No offense but if you think Oda is like intentionally supporting your strawhat ship in one piece you're delulu
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strawhatsemerald · 7 months
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I'm wondering... do people write the same shit on zosan tag or it's just zolu so special?
No offense but if you think Oda is like intentionally supporting your strawhat ship in one piece you're delulu
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strawhatsemerald · 7 months
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The way Luffy looks at him... and then that short movement of Zoro's head at Luffy's words...
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strawhatsemerald · 7 months
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Who confiremed this? Nobody! This is just headcanon of you ZoSan stans, because you are jealous that in reality Zoro doesn't give a fuck about Sanji and that his all life revolves around Luffy.
And as for sexual tention is a headcanon too, because there should be something more then bickering to make characters fuck.
Hope this helps!
I really hate it when people say something like "oh but I see Luffy as asexual because he is so pure, naive and a kid... but I definitely see ZoSan fucking because there is so much of a sexual tention between them when they bicker". Fuck this shit.
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strawhatsemerald · 7 months
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It's just ridiculous when people say that Luffy from the Netflix adaptation (and from the manga) is aroace and therefore can't be shipped with anyone, and Zoro is Sanji's boy… just where does all this come from? Remove Sanji from the show and NOTHING in Zoro's life will change. Not his character, not his goals, not his dream. Take Luffy away from him and there will be no Zoro.
I get it, headcanons, I get it, people want to praise their favorite ship, but to claim it all as if it were true?
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