And now Iām the one who wakes up in the middle of the night, seeingĀ my hands kill Kevin
Because Gadreel wasnāt the first to use Samās hands to hurt someone he loves (we can only hope heās the last)
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"Sams forgotten how to behave with non-drans"!!!... ššššš¤£š¤£...gold!
sam trying to make ava feel like heās just a regular guy when he keeps doing things that make it painfully obvious heās a fucking weirdoā¦ like he left stanford a year ago and heās already forgotten how to act in front of non-deans.
he gets off the phone from what sounded to ava like a normal conversation and just calmly says. āmy brothers got a gun on him. he used a code word.ā and sheās like !!???&}?{!? ācode word?ā and sams like āyeah, funky town.ā and sheās just. so fucking confused that this maniac and his brother have Code Words for when someone has a gun pointed at them. and he looks embarrassed about it and kinda apologetically goes āhe chose it! itās.. a long story.ā like dude that is the Wrong Thing to clarify when you just identified the shells from a silenced sniper rifle
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the difference between sam and dean is that in the phrase āincestuous romantic relationshipā sam cringes at incestuous and dean cringes at romantic.
i think heād be maybe a little weirded out but not that embarrassed if he just. wanted to fuck his brother. likeā¦ have you seen his brother? who doesnāt wanna fuck him.
no.. deanās embarrassed because the thought of his brother not wanting to fuck him makes his heart actually hurt, which he thought was just an overdramatic romcom line. because if he fucked his brother and his brother wanted to keep it casual, it would destroy him.
he doesnāt just want to fuck his brother. he wants to sleep next to him and kiss him and play with his stupid hair and grow old with him and die in his arms.
dean doesnāt wanna fuck his brother. he wants to make love to his brother. and that makes his skin crawl.
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Deep down, i believe the two brothers are both protagonists, and that's a given fact, but i have another more comprehensive reason Sam is the protagonist.
I dont wanna delve into it, but it's something along the lines that Dean has always existed as an ultimate extension of Sam. His standing within the narrative is that of a soldier, not a leader; he exists to protect (sam) and constantly needs an external drive (which sam fills) to do anything.
Dean is also heavily biased and prejudiced. He is not really a protagonist for a story who'd lead/take all under his wing bc he wouldn't. He is definitely a protagonist in Sam's life but not in the supernatural story.
He doesn't hold the axis of the general narrative as Sam does, and as he does hold Sam's.
Yea they both dont make the best selfless protags but Dean is by far the lesser chivalrous out of them, he is also unwilling to take that burden canonly, he HATES taking care of other people his role as a soldier/guardian has always kinda just extended to Sam and ended there that's why he says there's no me if there ain't no you to Sam. Dean IS the ultimate extension of Sam. Without Sam, he ends.
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Rewatching supernatural from s1 is like watching an animal be raised for slaughter. Like it genuinely hurts my heart. Sorry Sam, full as you are of anger, and passion, and ambition to fight for a way out, a better life, your destiny hangs over you like the unseen axe head. Sorry, yeah everything you have ever done has been to claw your way out, for survival - you may be in uni now but you're still on the farm. Sorry dude I wish I could get you out of it too but its inescapable, it's IN you, you don't know it yet but it is. Yikes.
Alternatively watching supernatural from s1 is great. Gothic horror, monster adventures and strained family relationships yes please. Let's hunt monsters whilst working out our deep seated issues about our father and how his treatment of us had turned by fundamentally into the people we are now. Yippee.
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Jared Padalecki - Salute to Supernatural Minneapolis 2018 // November 4, 2018
Photos by me - please credit my tumblr, twitter, or flickr if you use.
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Seriously though, what is the deal with the Winchester boys?? Every character in universe is obsessed with them. They fall for them. They literally know it and they canāt help it. They die for them.
And every person who watches in this universe, does the same. We watched them for 15 years and we beg for more. We go to conventions years after it ended. We take over social platforms whenever something of note regarding them happens.
The Winchesters inspire unparalleled devotion and I canāt explain why that is, but I am also a victim of it.
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The implications of it all!!.... that's the real kicker....it's story n themes are as much in the implied n all the horrors left to your own imagination than what's explicitly stated n on the screen....
The implications are what give it the depth...
do i ship wincest. yeah they're an inseparable pair on a narrative and thematic level, can you truly understand one without understanding the other? they're two halves of a dialectic on heroism and sacrifice. they're two points on the family trauma survivor spectrum, sometimes opposing, sometimes intersecting. they're like watching your parents who should've gotten a divorce years ago somehow stay together, against all reason. they're two inheritors of a rugged American masculinity and isolated individualism, internal and external violence springing forth. regressing to the nostalgia of frontier brotherhood as substitute for the nuclear family. they're a set of quintessential outlaw lovers. maybe true love only exists in the kind of freedom you keep when you're always moving, on the road, in your childlike bubble excluded from society, left with nowhere to burrow your roots except into each other's very being. they're the world's loneliest childhood shared between two feral dogs, one biting down on the other, unable to let go. they're the fantasy of an unconditional love so powerful it can survive the apocalyptic enormity of your own self-loathing. they're a set of matryoshka dolls, one consuming the other. journeys end in lovers meeting, but what kind of journey is it really when you've never left home: it's been sitting in the seat next to you this entire time. your haunted house is not a home but a person who'll never let go. they're an erotic fantasy of domestic horror as a sweet, sickening embrace as opposed to an all-consuming fire, a car driving off into heaven's sunset as opposed to one crashing into a tree. (wrong: they're both). so horribly enmeshed and trapped in a magnified love so destructive to the world around them they leave catherine and heathcliff wuthering heights in the dust. they're two brothers trapped in a 15 year long spiral of an abusive codependent pseudo-marriage, in part due to a network unable to let go of a successful show format, thus unable to afford them any growth that might disturb the status quo. but the implications of it all.
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Fan-reactions conforming to the very things the show tries to call out as horrific is the real horror of spn tbh!....
see liking supernatural is a curse.....because here's a pop horror show exploring generational family trauma and the consequences of social isolation, transience, poverty and the cycles of violence through a fantastical lens. how abuse of power is inherently baked into the foundations of the nuclear family, and how familial abuse is systemic rather than an anomaly. and as vehicles to carry these themes, we have two complex characters providing relatable and messy portraits of what being raised under a cocktail of adverse childhood experiences does to people. yeah sometimes it's poorly written; sometimes it delivers these narratives in incredibly clumsy ways, sometimes it frames them in markedly horrifying ways. but overall it's a rich source for analysis and personal reflection. it's actually an exceptional piece of media in the landscape of 'family horror'.
but watch out! 90% of the fandom is stubbornly determined to either ignore or whitewash any complexity found within the show. anything deemed too unpleasant, unpalatable, or beyond their understanding will be glossed over. if it doesn't fit neatly into their socially conservative worldview, it will be sanitised beyond recognition. they will use fictional characters as proxies to uncritically spout dominant cultural narratives around abuse victims. they will express the very same values systems that exclude and marginalise survivors of familial violence in the real world.
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wincest: you wannaā¦? by nargynargy
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Dean has always pushed sam to the point of suicide ...he did it in s4/s5 n he did it again s8/9...
N also end of s7, sam:
Thought dean (&everyone else he knew) was DEAD - thought dean was in heaven
Sam STILL did look for him - he stopped looking though n then walked away (he says in the season," I shouldn't have stopped looking" - clear indication that he DID look for dean even though ge did believe dean was dead n in heaven)
End of s7 sees sam just coming fresh out of hell-induced hallucinations n losing his mind after losing his soul (interestingly, BOTH due to castiel-just saying) - he may not hallucinate anymore but he's got ALL his hell-memories back - centuries upon centuries of torture n twisting from both lucifer n Michael- all, freshly available...just imagine the trauma n ptsd!...
n he coped with all of it alone, by himself..
Sams been coping by himself & dean is actually never there when sam needs him - he hovers n postures about his caretaker's role to sam n in general - but dean is never ACTUALLY there for sam when sam needs him in his corner : EG: Stanford fight,losing jess,losing dad,apocalypse 1.0 n on n on...
Dean might FEEL responsible for sam but dean's never TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY for his actions,words or treatment n behaviour towards sam - ever.
So, yeah, dean "talking sam off a ledge"? - doesn't really count if you drive him to that ledge in the 1st place through your own cruelty ....
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šÆ ...a few more examples:
He also said "no" to the devil again - while trapped in a cage with him
He said "enough" to all demons n declared that there'd be no new king of hell:
He killed Alastair- dean's torturer in hell:
He killed literally a horseman(famine) and his minion-demons single-handedly:
He survived demon-blood addiction n his stay in the panic room -twice. The 2nd time, he volunteered himself.
he killed lilith (the stated goal of literally EVERYONE that whole season):
He shot God aka chuck
he killed that alpha-vampire:
feel free to add on any others - let's start a bada$$ sam list! š
Sam is a badassā¦.
I think so many people overlook Samās badass side, lets not forget Sam:
Took control from the devil himself.
Overpowered Demon Dean and was able to cure him.
His heroic action in Red meat episode, he was in injured almost dying, still he managed to kill the monsters by himself and drive back to the hospital.
He lead a team of hunters the fight against BMOL.
I dislike that people use his relationship with Dean as prove that he cant make decisions or take charge. The fact that Sam loves and respects his big brother, doesnāt mean he is weak or lack strength in anyways.
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