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Something I think thats key to Heart or to my interpretation of Heart is that, though he is manipulative, he genuinely does not believe he is nor does he mean to be or do it with any malicious intent. This does not make him less manipulative nor less self-victimizing! But I think it does better display how emotions work. Which is that they are instinctual responses and often deeply connected to defense mechanisms. So Heart is defensive and reactive but he isn't dumb- but he also isn't malicious. i think he can manipulate on purpose 100% but a lot of him is genuine reaction that winds up manipulative even though he believes its for the best or simply cannot help himself.
Its something about being the chaos without the balance. Mind is there to keep Heart as in check as Heart is to keep Mind in check.
Dunno if this makes sense? I just feel like people say "Heart is manipulative" a lot and don't put more nuance into it than that. Not to say he is villainized, but I feel there's a lack of acknowledgement that emotions may not intend to be that way, but can be and rely on consciousness or common sense to be recognized and realized as such.
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nova-they-exist-yup · 11 days
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bring back tumblr ask culture let me. bother you with questions and statements
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nova-they-exist-yup · 15 days
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ˑ  ֺ ָ ֙⋆ ִ ۫ ˑ ֗ ִ ˑ ִ ֗ ִ˖ˑ ּ 𖥔 ۫ ּ ֗ ۪ ⊹ ˑ ִ ֗ ִ˖ ࣪𓂂 𐫰𓈒 ॱ ִ ࣪  ⊹ ᳝ ࣪⠀. ִ ་ ּ ۫ ˑ ֗ ִ ˑ ּ 𖥔 ۫ ּ ⊹ ˑ ִ ֗ ִ˖ ˖
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nova-they-exist-yup · 15 days
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Shoutout post for systems with high headcounts!
[PT Shoutout post for systems with high headcounts!]
For those with headcounts so high they don't get mentioned in other posts about high headcounts. For those with tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions, or billions of alters. For those with headcounts so high they stopped counting. For those with headcounts so high they can't safely know.
This is a shoutout to systems that:
Can't meet everyone
Cant log everyone
Forget people exist
Get stressed out thinking about your system size
Don't record the members of sidesystems/subsystems/groupings, only the group overall.
Organise your notes in 'weird ways'
Don't record fragments, don't count fragments as alters or don't include fragments in your headcount
Don't track front
Can't tell who's fronting most of the time
Are scared to share your headcount or scared of your headcount
Have been fakeclaimed/judged for your headcount
Cant relate to other systems because of headcount differences
Have lots of introject doubles, have entire casts of fictives from the same source, or have lots of 'duplicate' alters
You all deserve to be acknowledged and celebrated and validated just as much as any other system, and it sucks that that doesn't happen very often.
You're not 'impossible', you're not 'too much', and you're definitely not 'faking'.
Others not understanding what its like to have such a high headcount sucks, but it has no bearing on your validity or worth.
You exist therefore you have worth.
We hope everyone that sees this has a good day!
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nova-they-exist-yup · 16 days
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I was thinking about the 5 year anniversary video and
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it is interesting to me how Patton kind of decided for Logan what his role in the "family" would be. all the other sides chose it themselves, but he didn't get to.
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even when he actively objects it's played for laughs and never addressed. this happened too when Patton revealed his name for him, and I just think it's interesting to note that after all these years, Logan still never gets to decide anything when it comes to Thomas, or even himself, to an extent. it's just kind of decided for him and he is expected to just go along with it, similar to how it was when Thomas dyed his hair.
ik it's mainly a "haha wine mom" moment, but that doesn't take away from how angsty it gets when you think about it.
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nova-they-exist-yup · 17 days
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i feel like mind gets wayy too much shade from the cj fandom... he's a dick but like. i feel like out of the three what he did is pretty damn justified
no ur so right tho!!!!! mind gets demonized so much and i will never understand it. i think all 3 of them are both justified and also unjustified in their actions. that’s kind of the whole point isn’t it. one isn’t better or worse than the other, they just all kinda suck (but i also get where all 3 of them are coming from, y’know)
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nova-they-exist-yup · 17 days
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The Negatives: Masterpost
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"Howdy there, to the audience beyond the screen! I'm your host Eris, and this is Late Nights With Disharmonia..."
The Negatives AU was borne, long long ago, by me fucking around with the ancient joke of Soul 2. Mind 2, Heart 2, Whole 2, etcetera. It evolved into something more sophisticated if light-hearted, and now it's psychological horror. Oops!
Firstly; Eris, this Whole, is American. That's the first part of the joke. The second is that he's supposedly everything a normal golden Whole isn't-- loud, confident, in control. The third part is that he's exactly like a normal Whole in those respects anyway. He might have willed away the loop amnesia, but this cold war he's started with himself might be worse.
Total and godlike control of his own Psyche means nothing if he can't stop himself from splitting anyway. His Thirds know what he does, and they're horrible like him too.
Phobos, the Green Heart, is the distillation of what Eris thinks makes him different to other people; acting and ingenuity, sure, but also a casual disregard for their wellbeings and a violent streak. His impulsive, or intrusive, thoughts.
Deimos, an Orange Mind, is what Eris believes the world wants him to be; a pencil-pushing pushover, dull and boring and content with mundanity. Deimos might be calculative, but that's in the literal sense. He's a calculator, with about as much personality.
Nemesis is where it gets interesting. This Teal Soul isn't needed to pretend to be him at all, not really. He's less so Identity, and more... self-hate. Sure, Eris intended for him to be an embodiment of social pressure/"cringe culture", yet all that's done is make his Soul even more viscerally self-aware of the futility of this all. Nemesis was built to hate. To hate what Eris wants to be-- to be critical, never-pleased, and cynical. By god does Nemesis fulfill these criteria. Because-- well-- what is he supposed to do? Not hate this? This insufferable, useless war? These two tumours Linked to his thoughts? The fact that him hating at all is decreed by Eris, and he's playing his role perfectly? So he hates, quietly. The other two overpower him, and Eris uses him again and again and again for the things he himself doesn't want to do.
What a cheery quartet!!!
The delicate balance of Whole and Thirds was disrupted by their additions to the chat. Entirely sick of <making his Thirds> running Youtube content farms, Eris seeks a way to monetize this supernatural happening. Mixed with his total control of his Psyche <due to being his Psyche>, it's a recipe for something finally interesting. Eris is more of a filmmaker than a songwriter, and to create The Perfect Story is his goal. If only it was that easy. Pretending to be nice and helpful in chat, in order to lure somebody over, did not go very well at all. Neither did exploiting the phenomenon of his self-duplication; the fact that sending constructs from his Psyche is literally sending chunks of his Psyche, i.e., him. If they're in the right shape to walk and talk and think like him, well, they do! Eris clones 3 and 4 both met separate grisly demises.
Why? Long story short, they're filled with assumption goop, and if Reality questions that too hard, it becomes real goop. They melt. This is what happened to 3. 4..... got beheaded. By Nemesis. OOPS! Turns out the breaking of the pattern gave the Whole-adoring Heart and Mind enough grievances for Nemesis to convince them to murder him. And thus ended a doomed attempt at coexistence. The following month unsupervised screwed up Eris' life, too, on his return. Punishment only made them hate him more, and now it's all collapsing...
Now, desperation makes men do terrible things.
This is all a very quick summary of the Negatives, of course. Feel free to ask for clarifications! I might even respond in-character... Toodles for now!
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nova-they-exist-yup · 18 days
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I wonder if aliens have seen eclipses. The reason why we have total solar eclipses is because the moon is 400x smaller than the sun and 400x closer to the earth than the sun. So by sheer coincidence, we get total solar eclipses. I wonder if we’ll ever meet an alien civilization that has seen eclipses on their planet too. I wonder if it’s more common or rare depending on the planet size, the moon size, the way away from the moon, how many moons etc.
What if a civilization didn’t experience them? Imagine an alien seeing an eclipse for the first time. They ask what’s going on, and they’re told it’s an eclipse and why it happens. I wonder if that fact, the fact that eclipses can even happen, can inspire some aliens far later in the past to become astronomers, astronauts, astrophysicists, etc.
What would an eclipse look like on a planet with a far bigger moon? Or a far smaller or far away moon? What about planets that orbit each other? Imagine standing on a planet, and suddenly everything goes dark. But nobody’s shocked, it’s normal. Well, far more normal than here on Earth. I wonder what that could do to a planet’s atmosphere, temperature, etc.
I wonder.
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nova-they-exist-yup · 18 days
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mind types with completely proper grammar and punctuation and all that, etc etc. HOWEVER, they got really obsessed with shortening things and now they use a bunch of borderline incomprehensible acronyms that nobody can understand. "FYI DW WM HFM" is a note he left to soul once. mind sees this as completely sensible and efficient and does not understand how it is confusing at all.
(i am projecting a little bit)
Headcanon #490
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nova-they-exist-yup · 18 days
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Heart sleeps in a nest bed.
(Specifically in a bed nest made out of pillows, blankets, and plushies, not an actual bird nest built bed.)
Headcanon #489
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nova-they-exist-yup · 23 days
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Soul gets extremely jealous of the sander sides episodes like mind would walk in and just see soul that and he’ll be like
[soul. Why are you crying?]
{MIND! Look at them, they’re so happy why can’t we be like thattt??}
And cut to the screen where it obviously shows them arguing
Headcanon #480
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nova-they-exist-yup · 27 days
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April Fool’s Day is in a few days, and I just wanted to make this clear. This blog is safe, and I can promise you no screamers, nothing emotionally abusive, no fake posts, and nothing to intentionally trigger dissociation. You are safe here.
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nova-they-exist-yup · 27 days
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these tags made me laugh
[ID: A simplistic multi-panel comic of the characters from Sanders Sides, told through screenshots of a Tumblr post.
Panel 1: Janus, dressed in a suit, sits at the prosecution desk from Selfishness vs. Selflessness. The screenshot, a post from @/crustaceousfaggot reads "Is lying ever ethically correct" Panel 2: Extremely simple renditions of Roman, Thomas, and Virgil in their courtroom attire sit on one side of a desk, while Patton, looking worried, sits on the other side. The screenshot is of Tumblr poll results, reading "Yes - 97.6% / No - 2.4%". Panel 3: Logan, sitting in a chair, squints at the scene from a distance. Panel 4: Logan sits in the back of audience seating, surrounded by chairs as well as text reading [chairs]. He speaks with a speech bubble with Tumblr tags in it, reading "#who voted no? immanuel kant isnt going to fuck you" Panel 5: Patton sits in a folding chair leaning forward to hold his head in his hands, in the pose of the Shinji chair meme.
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nova-they-exist-yup · 30 days
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All of the else will fade away
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nova-they-exist-yup · 30 days
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Plural culture is having *a time* when your English teacher asks you to come up with a childhood memory to write about...
Wdym I'm supposed to remember my childhood-
We had to write an autobiography in 5th grade and needless to say we had to bullshit most of it
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nova-they-exist-yup · 1 month
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today i learned theres a fandom for the latin textbooks i read in class and tbh im kinda living for it
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nova-they-exist-yup · 1 month
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two characters who understand each other like no one else does and therefore hurt each other like no one else can
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