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@ambitious-procrastinator Mais naaaan qsdsqsdfdssdf ça fait 6 mois que je suis là et j'ai pas pensé une seule fois à cette réplique 😂🤣 merci

btw tous mes posts kaamelott c'est pcq 🎺🎺 kaamelott n'est pas bloqué sur youtube en irlande 🎉🎉(et oui, j'ai profité d'être seule dans une salle de classe pour projeter kaamelott sur le tableau et me faire un kiff et oui je compte le refaire why do you ask)

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i’m willing to believe some people are genuinely idiots who don’t know that 90%+ of polish jews were killed in the holocaust (and made up half of all poles killed in wwii), but. it’s almost like this shit helps nothing and no one

#I feel like that one is the craziest to date #antisemitism #They are basically telling their own countrymen to *go back to the gas chambers* and they think they're good people. #And then they have the GALL to try and guilt trip anybody who doesn't support their visceral jew hatred #I had more typed up but I deleted it #There are no words really

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The french word for résumé is not even french lol

The french word for résumé is not even résumé btw

#CV = curriculum vitae #I'm pretty sure we abbreviate it to cv because we can't spell it and we barely know what it means in Latin #also résumé IS a word in French! Rejoice! Only it means summary #So many french loan words just... don't mean that #But tbf we call sneakers “baskets” so who are we to judge

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local irish burger place now playing very evangelical worship music back in the kitchen?? Like I'm not complaining but hearing that stuff at a big franchise joint in a catholic country is certainly a surprise lol

#Local French blogger now coming to you from Ireland #“Huh” and also “nice”

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listening to a bunch of arguments against the gospel rn and I'm kinda astonished by the fact that one of the main taking points that keeps coming up could be lifted verbatim from Kaamelott.

It's this idea that 'condemning people on the basis of their unbelief in the cross is really unfair' (depending on who you ask, either because God could have simply not had Jesus die on the cross and/or because eternal condamnation is a really disproportionate punishment for something as neutral as mere unbelief or belief in something else). I'm bringing up Kaamelott because at his most depressed, Arthur says something I've always found fascinating but completely wrong:

"What do you call someone who suffers and spills his blood on the ground so that everybody be found guilty? All those who commit suicide are the Christ."

To me that quote and the argument against the fairness of the gospel come from the exact same place of profound misunderstanding. We are not condemned 'just' for not believing, and God didn't send Jesus into the world as a sort of twisted test for most people to fail. The very premise of the sacrifice for redemption (not suicide, not something Jesus could just not do and then we'd have all been fine) is that we are all condemned before the cross. If there was no cross to believe in, then guess what? The message would be that we are condemned, period.

The overarching story of the Bible is that we are already deserving of punishment for all that we do (all the hate and contempt we have for one another, all the good we should be doing and don't do, all the selfishness, all the hurt we cause...) and it's not lack of belief in what Jesus did on the cross that condemns us - lack of belief is what keeps us in our state of condemnation. We are not guilty because Jesus' blood was spilled (although that too is added to our sins if we remain in them), Jesus' blood is spilled because we are guilty. People asking 'so just because I don't believe in your God he's going to punish me?' as a gotcha to try and prove that God is malevolent are getting the most utterly basic cause and effect of the Gospel reversed.

This is how Jesus himself explains it in John 3! (which, btw, I saw some people quote as 'evidence' for this weird take)

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 

Whoever does not believe stands condemned already. And of course, people who reject the light remain lost in the darkness because they 'have not believed in [the light],' but the darkness was already there before the light came (duh).

It's expected that a tragicomic take on King Arthur in a wacky show that very deliberately has myth as its essence above even internal consistancy would have some wonky theological takes (by the way, that line is not even something Arthur believes, it's something from a dream that he had in his near comatose state after a suicide attempt, and he's recounting the dream to someone - which I wouldn't take as indicative that the line was meant as a bold philosophical epiphany reached through full clarity of mind) but it's baffling that people who want to seriously deconstruct the New Testament, the cross, the gospels or the concept of a redemptive offering for sin would be satisfied with something so shallow. Criticism of a belief system should get its fundamentals right to be meaningful, not be virtually indistinguishable from the angsty musings of some French polymath's Arthurian self insert.

#kaamelott #arthur pendragon #jesus christ #gospel #bible #salvation #king arthur #alexandre astier #hey I was deliberately watching videos of ex-christians giving their reasons for leaving and I was ready to have to think deeply #and they hit me with that?? #they left because they never knew what they supposedly believed in the first place not because they 'deconstructed it'

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Good question. I'm not sure there's meant to be an explicite connection between his knight status and his baptism, but the more medieval chivalry of the earlier books *is* very much the mark of Kaamelott's ChristianizationTM - while the later books seem to regress in time and the more celtic identity of the characters and the gods (plural) is emphasised. So in that sense, yeah, you can say him getting baptised is like holding on to knightgood while knighthood is slipping away.

So yeah, Perceval is now technically christian - just like Leodagant and Calogrenant and Dagonet and Lancelot and Galessin and Arthur and the other knights and kings are technically christians, but christianity is a veeeery fuzzy concept in Kaamelott. (For one thing, Perceval is being baptised by a priest and a druid, plus a million other things like Rome not being christian when Arthur grows up there in the 5th century even though it should have been for like 150 years) So IMO it doesn't mean all that much beyond the thematic throughline of Arthur's chivalric, civilized kingdom crumbling because of his failure (failure to keep faith, to be righteous) and collapsing back into the darker, wilder old ways. Perceval's adherence to the religion of Arthur's kingdom says more about him keeping faith in Arthur even through that disintegration than about his personal relationship with God I think.

hi kaamelott fans, what was the purpose of ceremony for perceval at the end of livre 4?

i thought it was a wedding but angharad wasnt there. it was just him.

was he baptized or something?

#Christianity in kaamelott is... extremely confusing lmao #Why is the lady of the lake - an envoy from the pagan celtic gods - guiding Arthur on his 'Christian' quest? #And IRL the grail is a distorted pagan myth retconned into a jesus thing but the medieval Christians did the retconning #Not the newly converted former pagans. So which is it here? #Why is Arthur's greater fault NOT killing Karadoc when David's greater fault IS killing uriah? #Unless the gods who punish Arthur and the God who punishes David are separate? #Why is there a pope with authority over Christian kings but also the Romans still overwhelmingly practice polytheism? #It's best summed up by Arthur when Viviane gets on his back about praying to mars: “religion's a total mess! Just admit it” #Unsurprisingly given how extremely atheistic AA is 😂😂 #fun fact his dad (playing leodagant) is from the one historically protestant region of France and has voiced God in a church theater produc #That my pastor uncle starred in xD #But it was absolutely a cultural heritage thing not a faith thing for him afaik #So yeah. Kaamelott is huh. Complex #And that's without getting on the fact Meleagant knows about the big bang and is very nihilistic in a non theist way #A strange quality for an emissary of the gods #Also he's explicitly been sent by (presumably celtic) gods but not the same ones that gave excalibur to Arthur #WHO SENT HIM #we don't know #I think he's been unleashed more so than sent but that still implies some forces that are stronger than the gods behind the grail quest #And that's not even mentioning that KAAMELOTT IS TECHNICALLY SET IN THE STAR WARS UNIVERSE #Is the Force a thing in kaamelott??? The force being pantheistic in nature??? #Is the kaamelott monotheistic polytheistic pantheistic or atheistic? Yes.

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I cannot stress enough how much I dislike most of the movie as my og tags attest 😂 Christian media is the best incentive to only get your Christian knowledge from the Bible.

like most Christian movies risen is cheesy and biblically dubious at times and gets loads of cultural stuff wrong for the sake of being recognizable to a primarily American audience but I'll readily admit the poor roman tribune's absolute bafflement at these religious weirdos who keep talking about love and stuff has me cackling unhingedly

Like, is it sound biblical doctrine and is it historical believable? No? Is it hilarious and do I enjoy seeing this random shmuck lose his mind going through what's essentially a very disturbing psychological thriller from his pov while the disciples are overflowing with joy? You bet??

The guy is dealing with horrifyingly decomposed dead bodies trying to find the right cadaver and previously sane soldiers going crazy and dead men being spotted alive and strange supernatural phenomena and angry gods and unexplained madness and religious fanatism spreading like a contagion, and meanwhile the disciples (and Jesus) are all like HELLO BROTHER WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE BEST NEWS EVER :D :D :D

#WHY DO THEY CALL JESUS YESHUA BUT JOHN 'JOHN'???? #“the chosen” did the exact opposite with the sanhedrin having Jewish names but the apostles having their anglicised names which. Huh. #Yet another nitpick #WHERE ARE ALL THE OTHER DISCIPLES BESIDES THE APOSTLES

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like most Christian movies risen is cheesy and biblically dubious at times and gets loads of cultural stuff wrong for the sake of being recognizable to a primarily American audience but I'll readily admit the poor roman tribune's absolute bafflement at these religious weirdos who keep talking about love and stuff has me cackling unhingedly

Like, is it sound biblical doctrine and is it historical believable? No? Is it hilarious and do I enjoy seeing this random shmuck lose his mind going through what's essentially a very disturbing psychological thriller from his pov while the disciples are overflowing with joy? You bet??

The guy is dealing with horrifyingly decomposed dead bodies trying to find the right cadaver and previously sane soldiers going crazy and dead men being spotted alive and strange supernatural phenomena and angry gods and unexplained madness and religious fanatism spreading like a contagion, and meanwhile the disciples (and Jesus) are all like HELLO BROTHER WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE BEST NEWS EVER :D :D :D

#Help my man Clavius he didn't ask for none of this #I gotta admit this is the first time in a while I've enjoyed any part of a Christian movie #even if most of it has me rolling my eyes and going “THAT'S not how it happened” #THE DISCIPLES WOULDN'T PRONOUNCE THE NAME OF GOD AND THE HOLY SHROUD IS BOGUS (for starters) #And there was no stranger - much less a roman - when Jesus appeared to the apostles #But I AM having fun with the tonal dissonance #Poor clavius is dreaming of blood and storms and his sanity is crumbling to dust and it feels like the end of the world #while to everyone who knows what's going on it's the single greatest thing that has ever happened and ever will #Risen 2016 #Resurrection #Bible movies #(Also in the list of things that get on my nerves no the spreading of the Gospel didn't hinge on one roman protecting the apostles) #(I hope they psychologically disturb that man some more he doesn't get to think he's that important) #(Centering a roman while getting some pretty basic stuff about Jewish culture wrong is also annoying) #(The beginning of the church are entirely and unambiguously JEWISH.) #(This character is like. 10 chapters too early.) #(Peter doesn't announce the Gospel to a roman until WELL after Jesus has ascended to heaven and even then it takes a direct order from God) #(And cornelius was already a follower of God and not pagan.) #(So Clavius just doesn't fit. And inserting a pagan guy as a witness to Jesus' most intimate moments with his disciples feels off) #The Gospel doesn't spill to the nations until God decrees it's time for it to happen. I don't like this romanisation #But again the first half of the movie had me laughing even though I could rant about its flaws for two hours

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I think I commented on that one but it never sent? Anyway I want it on here so...

Yes, he's getting baptised. AA did say he originally thought of the scene as a wedding (I think I got that from the books of screenplays) and changed it to a baptism because it didn't "fit."

Thematically, I'd interpret the juxtaposition between the ceremony and Meleagznt approaching Lancelot through Meleagant's line about solstice - the people of Kaamelott are celebrating the beginning of summer, celebrating a return to normal and to happier, brighter days, they're being righteous and religious again after Arthur leading the kingdom astray... all while they're actually blind to the 'return of the long nights' and the darker forces at play in the shadows. The two scenes oppose Kaamelott's return to normalcy and Lancelot's plunge into insanity but also foreshadow that 'normalcy' is actually shallow and not here to stay.

As to why Perceval specifically, it's probably bc he's the more innocent one out of all the Knights and also the most spiritual (in Kv1 he quotes the psalms and AA said P didn't actually know them, he was just saying stuff from the heart - showing Perceval is very deeply connected to the 'good' side of the universal balance)

hi kaamelott fans, what was the purpose of ceremony for perceval at the end of livre 4?

i thought it was a wedding but angharad wasnt there. it was just him.

was he baptized or something?

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How the fuck does someone get "what's happening to Palestinians is good actually" from "I think antisemitism is a bad thing and people need a more nuanced understanding of this conflict than they currently have and they *really* need to learn the actual history of the region rather than the bollocks they're swallowing."

The reading comprehension on this site is truly in the fucking toilet.

#Oh hey #Would you look at that #The exact sentiment I expressed on main that some people immediately took to mean I didn't care about innocent lives

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the idealized version of my tomorrow self will fix this

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new atheists deride religion as “primitive superstition” but when you hear their take on what religion is it’s clear they have the shallowest concept of it

#oh wow #that one is just hilarious

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amore

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"I'd kill you with my bare hands...

...rather than lose you."

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shoutout to Lancelot for the most unhinged love declaration ever.

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tfw he said he'd rather kill you with his bare hands rather than lose you.

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Dépression à la Thor : *récupère Mjolnir* J'en suis encore digne 🥲

Dépression à la Arthur Pendragon : *récupère Excalibur* Bah ouais nan mais c'est ça le problème en fait

#c'est tellement ça mdrrr #arthur veut ne PLUS être l'élu miskin

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another leodagan/seli married telepathy moment

"your son is a dumbass"

"that's your son"

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im lov them