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meanwhile over at GWU and SBU:

"no sexual relationships" 😔 is it bc no one wants to fuck them. is it bc y'all need a guideline about personal hygiene and y'all are stinky and nasty.

As a seasoned Reviewer #2 I have some questions that are more like comments:

10:45 is considered MORNING by these retards???

Drum circle for 45 minutes???

I love how CHANTS! WITH! ANGELA! takes more time than whatever "queers for palestine" is vfjfbjskskfnb poetic

Abolition letter writing??? I thought this was college not high-school hshfjbfjs

What's a WATER RITUAL and how is it relevant??

[lihyot-am-chofshi-beartzeinu]

One of the many, many, many reasons why seeing "Antizionists" claim that "Israel is acting just like the Nazis!/Jews are the New Nazis!/Israel is committing a genocide!" and other forms of Holocaust inversion is so incredibly offensive is that these claims undersell the horror of the Holocaust itself.

Let me just give two comparisons to show why the claim of "Zionists are genocidal!" is flat-out wrong.

First, it's been about (as of this writing) 200 days since the Hamas mass murders in early October--just under seven months. In that time, 34,262 Gazans have died according to the Hamas-run Gazan health bureau's official statistics. They are not distinguishing between Hamas' own combatants and civilians (by design), but that is the current death toll as of 29 April, 2024.

And this is a number that is claimed to be proof that Israel is attempting, with intent, to wipe out the Palestinian Gazan population.

Meanwhile, historically, 33,771 Jews were murdered in two days at Babi Yar in what is now Ukraine, near Kyiv, on the 29th and 30th of September, 1941. Three weeks later, on the 22-24th of October, 1941, another 34,000 Jews were killed in Odessa.

Those are just two massacres, each of which was accomplished with 1940s technology, while in the middle of a war with the USSR, each with a death toll comparable to the current death toll of Gazans, including Hamas combatants, each of which took two or three days to do all of the killing.

Compare that to Israel, with far greater technology for killing at its disposal, a civilian populace that is packed into a smaller area, and not having to fight against a technological peer...

And their death toll, while tragic, is at under 1% of the Nazis' own genocidal efforts. And that's because, as hard as it is for people to accept, they're not trying to kill all of the Gazans. They are, in fact, taking tremendous efforts to minimize the casualties (although there are legitimate criticisms to be made about their thresholds for what constitutes acceptable collateral damage to get at Hamas fighters).

But clearly, since they're (((Zionists))), they're the epitome of evil and must be worse than the Nazis.

And all the Jews hear from those claims is a slap in the face to both our dead and the efforts by the IDF to not kill, despite how easy it would be.

The thing is...

If the IDF did want to kill all of the Gazans, they could have easily done a Babi Yar or Odessa level massacre every day starting from October 8. At 33,000 deaths per day for 200 days, that's 6.4 million, or three times the total population of Gaza.

Instead, 98.5% of the Gazan populace is still alive.

But that apparently counts for nothing, and, in fact, "antizionists" are upset that more of them aren't dead, and are instead inflating the numbers...

Because it's more important to them to defame Israel than it is to actually improve the lives of Palestinians.

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They're also using it as a nice bit of historical revisionism. Watermelons were Zionist!

POSTER PROMOTING THE JEWISH GROWN WATERMELON IN THE MANDATE. 1939.

nah, the watermelon is bc its the colours of the palestinian flag (minus white) idk why not just use the flag emoji, but here we are

That what the Pro-pals told you, anon? Then why is the white missing, huh? I'm just asking questions here...

If Pro-pals told me the sky is currently blue I'd rather run outside to check if it's night, sunset or a storm coming in rather than believe them.

They don't use the flag because it's banned now because it's associated with the PLO who was the terror organization that ran Gaza before Hamas took over.

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@silver-the-socialist LMAO the way you tell on yourself!!! The Arab world PURGED 800,000-1M Jews of the Middle East. Most of them went to Israel, including my family who were expelled from Egypt for the crime of being Jewish. Middle Eastern Jews are the biggest Zionists I know, on account of them being ethnically cleansed from countries they were already 2nd class citizens in, you dumbfuck

why does every anti-zionist have a jewish anti-zionist on hand as a gotcha, but the other 90% of jewish folks are just chopped liver to said anti-zionists

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alizalichtxo

I hope everyone will read this and share it. I posted the full piece. Hamza Howidy is a Palestinian from Gaza City. He is an accountant and a peace advocate. I follow Hamza on X and his tweets are very important. Unfortunately, he is being blocked. In his words, “But the protesters aren’t interested in peace. Some of the groups have been blocking Palestinian peace activists like me—and I am from Gaza, the very place they claim to care about! Instead of blocking peace activists, they should be inviting us to join these protests and guide them in the right direction—a place without hatred with a focus on calling for the release of the hostages who have been held captive by Hamas for more than 210 days.”

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Every Jew I know, and a lot of Jews I don't know, have repeatedly said that JVP represents Jews about as much as Autism Speaks represents autistic people, so you'd think there wouldn't be as many gentiles saying "look, this demonstration where people chanted explicitly Jew-hating slogans can't possibly be antisemitic! JVP was there!" and yet

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thinking about how so much of the left spent so long making dual loyalty accusations that so many jews had to reiterate that "judaism != israel" as in "just because i'm jewish doesn't mean i support anything and everything the israeli state does wtf" only for the left to turn around and start saying "judaism != israel" as in "israel has nothing at all to to do with judaism" as in "any and all discussion of antisemitism with regard to israel is irrelevant derailing" (at best) and have the gall to act like they're saying the same thing because those are the Right Words, right? forced them to put up a shield only to rip that shield from their hands and beat them with it. vile. fucking vile.

#reference

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It cannot be stressed enough that Israel is the ONLY country "Leftists" feel comfortable talking about this way.

No support for anti-war and anti-government protests on the ground (you know, the protests that might actually make a difference)

No empathy for or solidarity with civilian victims (only when it comes to Israeli civilians are you going to hear self-described Feminists and Leftists explain why rape is fine, actually)

No understanding of the difference between the state and its' citizens (or even the Jewish people, generally)

No desire to actually learn about the history of the region and conflict comprehensively (the expulsion of over 700,000 Palestinians during the Nakba was horrific, and a crime that needs to be addressed. Out of curiosity, what was happening to the 800,000-1,000,000 Jews living in the surrounding Arab nations around then?)

All understanding of complexity and nuance? Of the concerns of minority, queer, disabled, and other vulnerable populations with the country? It's all out the window. It's all just one big Evil Zionist Entity.

This is how even accurate criticisms and condemnations of Israel can end up being antisemitic. You are viewing the Israeli state through a lens that you hold to no other nation-state on Earth. (and then holding random Jews to account for that).

You can do better and still advocate for Palestinian liberation and autonomy. It's actually not that hard.

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Not blind - just not "attuned" to it, so to speak. As someone who worked for many years in the Australian Jewish community, I've always been sharply aware of the antisemitism of the left simmering just below the surface, going undetected by decent society because by and large, non-Jewish society simply can't identify dogwhistles. They're called "dogwhistles" for a reason! Antisemitism is baked into Western society social structures. Like a virus, it mutates to suit the occasion. It's not something I "blame" non-Jews for not being able to see/identify, but the fact that you have such moral clarity and can see it now - when so many non-Jews on this site and around the world have gone full mask-off antisemite - is something for which myself and other Jews are incredibly grateful.

As for Ted Cruz - definitely a stopped-clock moment. It leaves me wondering how this will affect American Jewish voting trends. American Jews have traditionally voted Democrat/left wing... this low-hanging fruit of sensibility might signal a shift. I guess only time will tell.

by Virginia Kruta

Cruz’s response got straight to the point: “If this is a student, she should be expelled. If this is a #Columbia professor, she should be fired. No university should allow one member of the community to advocate the murder of other members of the community.”

Cruz was not alone in his sentiments, as others flooded X with comments on the photo. AG added a second post, saying, “This image also made me think of a great line I saw from @neontaster the other day: The difference between a radical anti-Zionist and a moderate anti-Zionist is that a radical anti-Zionist wants to kill you, and a moderate anti-Zionist wants a radical anti-Zionist to kill you.”

“This was the least of it. At least one Jewish student was attacked at Yale. Several Jewish students were threatened at Columbia,” AG added in another post. “There are videos of the crowds threatening violence, telling Jews to go back to Europe, cheering terrorism, celebrating the American flag being taken down. This is all happening on 2 American campuses. It’s clear that these campuses are clearly not safe for Jewish students right now and not particularly productive for others as they have been taken over by antisemitic and pro-terrorist mobs. This is all coordinated and well-funded by some national activist groups, but the schools allowed for it to get to this place by allowing those involved to keep pushing the line/normalizing such behavior and they hired faculty/administrators who encourage it. Now it’s up to these schools to figure out how to address these mobs. It’s their problem because their reputations are on the line and their failures that led us here. If they refuse to address it, they should face civil rights investigations, lawsuits from students, and permanent reputations loss.”

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Antisemites posting all their token pet Good Jew™️ takes and being like omg look I found a JEW to sign off on this antisemitism so it must be TRUE (I am not an antisemite!!!) Like okay well I’m a Jew and I disagree. Now what? I’ve cancelled your little token out.

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Hey @rose-coloured-girl , maybe you could start by not linking to articles that support JVP, which is considered a hate group run by non-Jews by the Jewish community at large:

https://aish.com/uncovering-the-real-voice-of-jewish-voice-for-peace/

https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/jewish-voice-peace-jvp-what-you-need-know

https://www.commentary.org/articles/joshua-muravchik/not-so-jewish-not-for-peace/

Why should we trust any of your sources? Why should we believe you actually care about this Judenhass on campus when you can't even identify JVP as a dangerous antisemitic hate group cosplaying as your good token Jews with their "anti-Zionist seders" (🤡) who give you and others permission to hate other Jews?

These sorts of demonstrations did not happen for any other war in recent years. Russian students were not treated like this. Syrian students were not treated like this. Jewish students are. And American students are collaborating with CUAD.

Stay in your fucking lane and don't try to gaslight us about what is going on.

I can’t get over how the students at Columbia screamed “Go back to Poland” to American Jews. Not even Israelis (though that wouldn’t be okay either). American fucking Jews.

Way to tell me that you don’t want me in your country and think my family and I would be better off dead. You’re such an activist, gleefully screaming for the ethnic cleansing of your country’s own populations.

Get absolutely fucked, you monsters.

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absolutely amazing (by which I mean vile) how @sirswooshnoodles ignored everything OP said and doubled down and then had the fucking audacity to insult her with sexist terms as soon as they're challenged with their own racism and prejudice. truly, proof that their ""activism"" is skin deep and ultimately just a front for their Judenhass.

I can’t get over how the students at Columbia screamed “Go back to Poland” to American Jews. Not even Israelis (though that wouldn’t be okay either). American fucking Jews.

Way to tell me that you don’t want me in your country and think my family and I would be better off dead. You’re such an activist, gleefully screaming for the ethnic cleansing of your country’s own populations.

Get absolutely fucked, you monsters.

#g-d forbid Jews talk about antisemitism without uneducated goyim busting a nut to scream about Israel

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I can’t get over how the students at Columbia screamed “Go back to Poland” to American Jews. Not even Israelis (though that wouldn’t be okay either). American fucking Jews.

Way to tell me that you don’t want me in your country and think my family and I would be better off dead. You’re such an activist, gleefully screaming for the ethnic cleansing of your country’s own populations.

Get absolutely fucked, you monsters.

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You know how I was saying earlier that there is no justification for rape and torture ever, under any circumstances?

These people are calling for that to happen to Jews every. single. day.

There is no excuse for this whatsoever. I better hear the gentiles insisting that the pro-Palestinian movement is not antisemitic condemning this with your whole chest.

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^ This damn fool having the fucking audacity to write this shit on a post about clearly documented institutionalised, state-backed antisemitism defending well-documented antisemitism in an inherently antisemitic movement, trying to claim that it's just a few bad apples so we're foolish for thinking maybe we should be concerned about large mobs of people who could turn violent at the mere sight of a Jewish person.

Yes, it's "your movement", and yes, these people are in fact speaking for you, because no one in that movement is condemning it, no one is pushing back, and people like you people who say Israel is a Zionist state (it is, because Zionism is about Jewish self-determination and having a homeland in the Levant 🤪) and protesting Zionism mean they are inherently not treating people fairly and with kindness and respect. Zionism is a word about Jews, FOR Jews, to define; it is NOT YOURS to warp and walk away with a definition that makes it okay to believe lies and propaganda about Israel. It isn't just a few people "using" Zionism as an excuse to be antisemitic. The entire pro-Palestine movement is founded on the desire to eradicate the state of Israel and her 7 million Jews (what's going to happen to the 2 million Arabs, Christians, Bedouins, and other non-Jewish citizens of Israel??).

You, @foobco, can literally fuck off my post. When I called you out on your antisemitism, you denied, deflected, doubled-down, and then told me to "chill out" and "be rational". How dare you? Literally, how dare you tell Jewish people to chill out and be rational when there are police in Britain who are threatening to arrest Jewish people for being Jewish in public. I refuse to blame the actions of Israel for the way the worldwide pro-Palestine movement has made it unsafe for Jews. You claimed that if you were sitting at a table with Nazis you'd stand up and walk out. Go on then. Walk out of the pro-Palestine movement, because Jews are no longer safe to walk the streets of London. What is that, if not a Nazi movement?

don't worry guys, it's just antizio-- oh wait, the Met officer literally said the Jewish man would be arrested for the crime of [checks notes] being Jewish in the street and that being Jewish could cause the Hamasniks to turn violent, so the Jewish man would be held responsible for disrupting the peace. also apparently it's OK for pro-Palestine protestors to threaten and vow to follow visibly Jewish people around for no other crime than being Jewish in a public space, and not get called out/arrested by the police in the UK.

BUT DON'T WORRY GUYS, IT'S JUST ANTIZIONISM 🤪

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“Hit them, Israel!” “Iranians stand with you!”

This is becoming a trend in Iran! ❤️

IraniansStandWithIsrael

#iranian x israeli solidarity

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don't worry guys, it's just antizio-- oh wait, the Met officer literally said the Jewish man would be arrested for the crime of [checks notes] being Jewish in the street and that being Jewish could cause the Hamasniks to turn violent, so the Jewish man would be held responsible for disrupting the peace. also apparently it's OK for pro-Palestine protestors to threaten and vow to follow visibly Jewish people around for no other crime than being Jewish in a public space, and not get called out/arrested by the police in the UK.

BUT DON'T WORRY GUYS, IT'S JUST ANTIZIONISM 🤪

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#antisemitism #leftist antisemitism #UK #british antisemitism #met police #antizionism