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One idea I have for next season is that Anthony and Kenny hash things out and start a social media campaign to help Robby:

#justiceforRobby

In their campaign, they resurface and spread the clips from the school fight that highlight all of Miguel's wrongs against Robby as well as the fact that Robby was protecting Sam and the Cobras kept attacking them or stopping them from escaping. Miguel did no different. They can include how Miguel had attacked Robby at the canyon party and accidentally hit Sam. They can also include Miguel pulling on Robby's injured arm to win. (These two are incidents Anthony knows about.) They'd need to put a lot of emphasis that what happened at the end had been an accident. They can be the ones to help tell Robby's side of the story.

If Miguel flipped a switch and attacked Robby at the beginning and again in the middle of the school fight, and then later flipped an opposite switch to stop attacking Robby and attempting to break his arm for no reason at all, how could Robby know if Miguel wasn't going to flip yet another switch and attack him again? Miguel has always been unpredictable when it comes to attacking Robby. Miguel still is.

They can also spread how Robby helped and mentored them, never bullies anyone, and encouraged that they hash things out. Kenny can also talk about how Robby has always encouraged him to try a better way and that Robby even came to the Cobra Kai dojo to encourage all the students to leave Cobra Kai.

Robby will probably never get justice, but hopefully Miguel's reputation takes a hit. Miguel has shown no humility, taken no accountability, and still feels entitled to attack Robby whenever he wants.

Another idea is that they help Robby become a YouTuber. With his karate and skateboarding skills, he could rise to fame doing awesome stunts using both sets of skills. After all, he taught himself the two-legged kick using his skateboarding skills.

Robby is super smart and talented. I don't like that he won't get to earn his high school diploma through school and walk across the graduation stage like the other kids will. Even Tory's going to be able to do that.

The adults in Robby's life don't seem to care about helping and encouraging him for his future. His karate mentees might as well be the ones to help him. Maybe the message can be that at any age you can have a real positive impact on someone's life.

Robby teaching his mentees Miyagi-Do in the Cobra Kai dojo.

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Robby was never going to be accepted by Johnny or a majority of fans because he is a constant reminder that Johnny is a shitty person. He was only accepted when he went back to Chameleon Robby and played the role of agreeable and people pleasing son. It infuriates me because Robby is a loving and kind boy who does everything he can for those he loves. And he just wanted that same love and attention in return, but never got it.

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Who the hell is Miguel to question Robby if he is in Cobra Kai, specifically mentioning that Robby had told Sensei that he had left Cobra Kai? Like, what business does Miguel have in Johnny and Robby's relationship and what right does Miguel have to question Robby's loyalty to his own father?

Or like Miguel telling Hawk and Demetri that Miguel's not letting it get to him that Robby is with Johnny now. Like, who the hell is Miguel to be bothered or even think that he has the right to be bothered by Robby's presence in Johnny's life? Robby is Johnny's son.

And of course what has made all this worse is that Johnny has set the unspoken condition with Robby that he has to get along with Miguel in order for Johnny to be happy with Robby and keep him around, even though Robby had made it clear that he is fine with Johnny and Miguel having their thing as long as Robby is kept out of it. But, Miguel had issues with Robby, and Johnny wanted them resolved so he pressured Robby into fighting Miguel instead of respecting Robby's wishes, thus empowering Miguel and making it clear that what Miguel wants matters more than what Robby wants.

And of course, Miguel was happy with this because he finally got to hurt Robby like he has wanted to since s1 and got to do so with Johnny's full approval. Miguel and Robby both know that Miguel is still the more important one to Johnny between the two of them.

That fight and its resolution cemented for Robby that he was still not Johnny's priority even before that news dropped.

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There’s still nothing about this that even remotely suggests that Robby is about to strike sam- to the audience or to Miguel. There’s no aggression in his body language or voice. “You wouldn’t have cared even if you did know” is the last thing he says before Miguel pipes up and even then there’s no aggression- just disappointment. The most aggression he shows is when he says “stay out of it”. No insinuation he’s about to strike sam whatsoever. That argument is a complete stretch.

Robby should have known what ? To make the assumptions he’s making- Robby is going off of objective experiences and history he’s had with Miguel and Sam. In Season 1, Miguel is making assumptions based on a couple of things he’s seen with a guy he’s never met and has no history with. That’s the difference. So again, while both confrontations as I already said, are based on misunderstanding, Robby has far more justifiable reasons to draw the conclusions he’s coming to based on his objective history and experience with both characters.

You writing out the dialogue with some added in biased descriptors just further proves my point. The “it’s not her fault” is speaking up in defence of Sam. True. Never said anything against that. Robby then gives Miguel the option to stay out of it- the “I don’t think I will” while stepping forward is challenging and suggestive of what Miguel is prepared to do. He’s not going to back off- he’s prepared to do the opposite. It’s provocative and very in keeping with Miguel’s character. That’s a threat and THAT’S what Robby responds to. So no, while AGAIN, I don’t condone what Robby did there- he doesn’t do it unprovoked. That’s objectively wrong. He does it after being challenged by a guy who he just gave the option to back out to, as evidenced by the dialogue that you wrote out.

“I was hoping you’d say that” - yes, suggestive of Robby’s state of mind, and yet he STILL goes for the non-violent option first.

I find it interesting that people think the beach party confrontation in Season 1 and the scene where Robby returns to Miyagi-Do to find Sam in Miguel’s arms in S3 are complete parallels. They’re not, there are actually quite a few key differences.

Let’s look at the way Miguel handles the situation at the beach. He’s completely wasted and when he confronts Sam, gets increasingly aggressive both in body language and vocally. He accuses sam of being a liar and completely disrespects her. When all Robby does is try to say sam was telling the truth, Miguel straight up shoves Robby and of course then tries to again and accidentally hits sam. Robby had every reason to pipe up and get involved in this scene - Miguel was coming across as aggressive and borderline threatening. Let’s not forget, Robby was also probably acting on pure instinct which has been ingrained in him over the years. Robby is used to seeing his mother mistreated by various men as suggested by how protective he is of her and his warning to the man in S2 about not hurting her. He sees Sam potentially receiving the same treatment from her currently aggressive boyfriend- it’s no wonder he stepped in. I hate that people try and blame Robby for butting in- what was he supposed to do ?

In terms of Robby’s handling of the situation, in S3 when he confronts Sam- we can see he’s visibly upset, but there’s no aggression. There’s no threatening body language or raising of his voice. I can sort of understand why Miguel would want to defend Sam, but the fact of the matter is there was actually no real need for him to pipe up. Robby wasn’t coming across as threatening the way Miguel was in S1. All Miguel piping up did was escalate the situation. I find it interesting that Robby pipes up in S1 to try and deescalate the situation - not looking for a fight- and Miguel who’s already been escalating it, escalates it further by inciting violence. When Miguel pipes up in S3 however, it’s not an attempt at deescalation - in fact, it’s pretty evident that Miguel is all to ready and prepared for a fight. This comparison is very in keeping with both characters. People view Miguel’s actions here as heroic- I don’t. I think they’re unnecessary.

Another key difference is that, as I previously mentioned, when Robby intervenes in S1, Miguel straight up pushes him to the ground. He immediately initiates a physical altercation. It’s only after that, that Robby issues a challenge in response to being shoved and provoked. When Miguel intervenes in S3, Robby actually gives Miguel the chance to back off first and that’s when Miguel issues an unnecessary challenge-unprovoked- in an attempt at being a hero. It’s a very key difference. Miguel immediately resorts to violence in S1 whereas in S3 (and just generally), Robby’s approach is words first, actions second. That’s a key difference between these characters in these scenes and again in general. Miguel is all too prepared to incite violence unprovoked while everything Robby does is reactionary. He never actually initiates violence without reason or without being threatened.

This leads me to both Miguel and Robby’s reasons for being angry and attacking the other. In S1, Miguel and Robby have never met. There’s no history between them. Miguel has witnessed Robby having dinner with the Larussos and next sees Sam and Robby at the beach. (In fairness to Miguel, I don’t think it was the best move for Sam and Robby to show up holding hands when there was tension between Miguel and Sam- even if Robby was just helping her down the hill). But at this point Robby has never actually done anything to Miguel to warrant Miguel’s hatred towards him. Miguel’s dislike of Robby- again, a guy he’s never met at that point- is based on pure paranoia and insecurity caused by miscommunication in his then toxic relationship with Sam. Miguel’s antagonism towards Robby isn’t based on any concrete facts. Robby and Sam aren’t together and cheating like Miguel assumes they are. Miguel ignites a rivalry between him and Robby based on pure speculation. He ignites a rivalry essentially for nothing.

By the time we reach the S3 altercation, there’s obviously much more history between Miguel and Robby. In Robby’s mind, Miguel is the guy who has continually attacked and provoked him during their interactions, with the most recent attack having horrendous consequences and landing Robby in juvie when all Robby wanted to do was stop the fight and protect his girlfriend. I’m not condoning Robby moving to attack Miguel, but because of the history between them, I’m far more understanding towards his reasons for doing this. I would completely understand if Robby was thinking he would strike first before Miguel got the chance to do what he always does- again, strike first- especially after Miguel issued a challenge unprovoked and was ready to go. Robby’s reasons for attacking Miguel actually are based on concrete facts and objective history between the two. This might be a stretch - but Robby going to punch Miguel could weirdly be considered a form of defence after being threatened. “If an enemy insists on war- then you take away his ability to wage it” comes to mind. That approach worked with Robby in juvie when he dealt with Shawn threatening him - so in Robby’s mind it could work with Miguel threatening him now. Miguel was ready for a fight- so Robby was going to get in there first.

This leads me to both of the boys’ anger towards Sam in these altercations. Like Miguel and Sam’s confrontation, Robby and Sam’s is centred around misunderstanding. The difference is I would argue that Robby has more justifiable reasons for being upset with her. Again, Miguel’s anger towards Sam was based on nothing but paranoia. The one thing I can understand Miguel being angry about is her hiding their relationship from Daniel and that only fuelled his insecurities. The simple fact of the matter is - again, she wasn’t cheating on him. Nothing really warranted him being THAT angry and disrespectful towards her. Miguel just assumes the worst in her without any concrete evidence.

Robby’s anger towards Sam is more understandable and yet, he’s still respectful towards Sam even after he learns she cheated on him. He STILL defends her against anybody that speaks badly of her and gives her the benefit of the doubt. Then after all of his defending of the girl who cheated on him and who hasn’t been there for him, he comes back to his once safe place to find her in the arms of the guy she cheated on him with and who has made his life a living hell since their first interaction. Anybody would be livid and even after all of that- Robby’s first instinct isn’t to immediately incite violence the way Miguel’s always is.

People look at these “parallel “ situations in far too simple a manner. There’s so much context and nuance to them that actually makes them completely different.

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Back off sam ? They were having a discussion. And a far more calm one than Miguel and sam’s confrontation in S1. As I said Robby’s spent so much time dedicated to defending Sam after she cheated on him and returns to find her in Miguel’s arms. Robby had every right to be angry. I also said already said I don’t condone Robby taking a swing at Miguel in my post - all I said is his reasons for doing so are far more understandable given the history that’s now developed between Miguel and Robby.

Again because of history, Robby has more reason to believe they got back together and accuse her of these things given that by this point, Sam HAS actually cheated on him and she’s now in the arms of that same guy she cheated on him with. In S1, Miguel believed Sam cheated on him when in reality- she didn’t.

Miguel thought Robby was about to take a swing at Sam ? Proof ? I’m sorry but that’s a baseless argument. Robby’s demeanour was in no way physically aggressive or threatening towards Sam. He doesn’t even raise his voice. He pretty much maintains the same amount of distance between them throughout the entire scene, only stepping closer towards Miguel when he pipes up. If Robby have MIGUEL the chance to back off first before initiating violence, there’s no way he was going to take a swing at Sam. Again I’m sorry, but that’s a non-argument with zero evidence to back it up.

The point is, Miguel initiated violence unprovoked with no threat to him with someone who- as you said yourself- he didn’t even know. And he doesn’t just do that while he’s drunk- he’s done it throughout the seasons. The school fight would be another example. Robby only initiated violence AFTER being threatened by someone with a history of attacking and provoking him. That’s the point I’m making. Robby always looks for non-violent solutions first before initiating violence. Miguel doesn’t. AGAIN, I’m not condoning what Robby did, but the history between the characters matters here and it’s what makes the two scenarios actually very different from each other.

I find it interesting that people think the beach party confrontation in Season 1 and the scene where Robby returns to Miyagi-Do to find Sam in Miguel’s arms in S3 are complete parallels. They’re not, there are actually quite a few key differences.

Let’s look at the way Miguel handles the situation at the beach. He’s completely wasted and when he confronts Sam, gets increasingly aggressive both in body language and vocally. He accuses sam of being a liar and completely disrespects her. When all Robby does is try to say sam was telling the truth, Miguel straight up shoves Robby and of course then tries to again and accidentally hits sam. Robby had every reason to pipe up and get involved in this scene - Miguel was coming across as aggressive and borderline threatening. Let’s not forget, Robby was also probably acting on pure instinct which has been ingrained in him over the years. Robby is used to seeing his mother mistreated by various men as suggested by how protective he is of her and his warning to the man in S2 about not hurting her. He sees Sam potentially receiving the same treatment from her currently aggressive boyfriend- it’s no wonder he stepped in. I hate that people try and blame Robby for butting in- what was he supposed to do ?

In terms of Robby’s handling of the situation, in S3 when he confronts Sam- we can see he’s visibly upset, but there’s no aggression. There’s no threatening body language or raising of his voice. I can sort of understand why Miguel would want to defend Sam, but the fact of the matter is there was actually no real need for him to pipe up. Robby wasn’t coming across as threatening the way Miguel was in S1. All Miguel piping up did was escalate the situation. I find it interesting that Robby pipes up in S1 to try and deescalate the situation - not looking for a fight- and Miguel who’s already been escalating it, escalates it further by inciting violence. When Miguel pipes up in S3 however, it’s not an attempt at deescalation - in fact, it’s pretty evident that Miguel is all to ready and prepared for a fight. This comparison is very in keeping with both characters. People view Miguel’s actions here as heroic- I don’t. I think they’re unnecessary.

Another key difference is that, as I previously mentioned, when Robby intervenes in S1, Miguel straight up pushes him to the ground. He immediately initiates a physical altercation. It’s only after that, that Robby issues a challenge in response to being shoved and provoked. When Miguel intervenes in S3, Robby actually gives Miguel the chance to back off first and that’s when Miguel issues an unnecessary challenge-unprovoked- in an attempt at being a hero. It’s a very key difference. Miguel immediately resorts to violence in S1 whereas in S3 (and just generally), Robby’s approach is words first, actions second. That’s a key difference between these characters in these scenes and again in general. Miguel is all too prepared to incite violence unprovoked while everything Robby does is reactionary. He never actually initiates violence without reason or without being threatened.

This leads me to both Miguel and Robby’s reasons for being angry and attacking the other. In S1, Miguel and Robby have never met. There’s no history between them. Miguel has witnessed Robby having dinner with the Larussos and next sees Sam and Robby at the beach. (In fairness to Miguel, I don’t think it was the best move for Sam and Robby to show up holding hands when there was tension between Miguel and Sam- even if Robby was just helping her down the hill). But at this point Robby has never actually done anything to Miguel to warrant Miguel’s hatred towards him. Miguel’s dislike of Robby- again, a guy he’s never met at that point- is based on pure paranoia and insecurity caused by miscommunication in his then toxic relationship with Sam. Miguel’s antagonism towards Robby isn’t based on any concrete facts. Robby and Sam aren’t together and cheating like Miguel assumes they are. Miguel ignites a rivalry between him and Robby based on pure speculation. He ignites a rivalry essentially for nothing.

By the time we reach the S3 altercation, there’s obviously much more history between Miguel and Robby. In Robby’s mind, Miguel is the guy who has continually attacked and provoked him during their interactions, with the most recent attack having horrendous consequences and landing Robby in juvie when all Robby wanted to do was stop the fight and protect his girlfriend. I’m not condoning Robby moving to attack Miguel, but because of the history between them, I’m far more understanding towards his reasons for doing this. I would completely understand if Robby was thinking he would strike first before Miguel got the chance to do what he always does- again, strike first- especially after Miguel issued a challenge unprovoked and was ready to go. Robby’s reasons for attacking Miguel actually are based on concrete facts and objective history between the two. This might be a stretch - but Robby going to punch Miguel could weirdly be considered a form of defence after being threatened. “If an enemy insists on war- then you take away his ability to wage it” comes to mind. That approach worked with Robby in juvie when he dealt with Shawn threatening him - so in Robby’s mind it could work with Miguel threatening him now. Miguel was ready for a fight- so Robby was going to get in there first.

This leads me to both of the boys’ anger towards Sam in these altercations. Like Miguel and Sam’s confrontation, Robby and Sam’s is centred around misunderstanding. The difference is I would argue that Robby has more justifiable reasons for being upset with her. Again, Miguel’s anger towards Sam was based on nothing but paranoia. The one thing I can understand Miguel being angry about is her hiding their relationship from Daniel and that only fuelled his insecurities. The simple fact of the matter is - again, she wasn’t cheating on him. Nothing really warranted him being THAT angry and disrespectful towards her. Miguel just assumes the worst in her without any concrete evidence.

Robby’s anger towards Sam is more understandable and yet, he’s still respectful towards Sam even after he learns she cheated on him. He STILL defends her against anybody that speaks badly of her and gives her the benefit of the doubt. Then after all of his defending of the girl who cheated on him and who hasn’t been there for him, he comes back to his once safe place to find her in the arms of the guy she cheated on him with and who has made his life a living hell since their first interaction. Anybody would be livid and even after all of that- Robby’s first instinct isn’t to immediately incite violence the way Miguel’s always is.

People look at these “parallel “ situations in far too simple a manner. There’s so much context and nuance to them that actually makes them completely different.

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I find it interesting that people think the beach party confrontation in Season 1 and the scene where Robby returns to Miyagi-Do to find Sam in Miguel’s arms in S3 are complete parallels. They’re not, there are actually quite a few key differences.

Let’s look at the way Miguel handles the situation at the beach. He’s completely wasted and when he confronts Sam, gets increasingly aggressive both in body language and vocally. He accuses sam of being a liar and completely disrespects her. When all Robby does is try to say sam was telling the truth, Miguel straight up shoves Robby and of course then tries to again and accidentally hits sam. Robby had every reason to pipe up and get involved in this scene - Miguel was coming across as aggressive and borderline threatening. Let’s not forget, Robby was also probably acting on pure instinct which has been ingrained in him over the years. Robby is used to seeing his mother mistreated by various men as suggested by how protective he is of her and his warning to the man in S2 about not hurting her. He sees Sam potentially receiving the same treatment from her currently aggressive boyfriend- it’s no wonder he stepped in. I hate that people try and blame Robby for butting in- what was he supposed to do ?

In terms of Robby’s handling of the situation, in S3 when he confronts Sam- we can see he’s visibly upset, but there’s no aggression. There’s no threatening body language or raising of his voice. I can sort of understand why Miguel would want to defend Sam, but the fact of the matter is there was actually no real need for him to pipe up. Robby wasn’t coming across as threatening the way Miguel was in S1. All Miguel piping up did was escalate the situation. I find it interesting that Robby pipes up in S1 to try and deescalate the situation - not looking for a fight- and Miguel who’s already been escalating it, escalates it further by inciting violence. When Miguel pipes up in S3 however, it’s not an attempt at deescalation - in fact, it’s pretty evident that Miguel is all to ready and prepared for a fight. This comparison is very in keeping with both characters. People view Miguel’s actions here as heroic- I don’t. I think they’re unnecessary.

Another key difference is that, as I previously mentioned, when Robby intervenes in S1, Miguel straight up pushes him to the ground. He immediately initiates a physical altercation. It’s only after that, that Robby issues a challenge in response to being shoved and provoked. When Miguel intervenes in S3, Robby actually gives Miguel the chance to back off first and that’s when Miguel issues an unnecessary challenge-unprovoked- in an attempt at being a hero. It’s a very key difference. Miguel immediately resorts to violence in S1 whereas in S3 (and just generally), Robby’s approach is words first, actions second. That’s a key difference between these characters in these scenes and again in general. Miguel is all too prepared to incite violence unprovoked while everything Robby does is reactionary. He never actually initiates violence without reason or without being threatened.

This leads me to both Miguel and Robby’s reasons for being angry and attacking the other. In S1, Miguel and Robby have never met. There’s no history between them. Miguel has witnessed Robby having dinner with the Larussos and next sees Sam and Robby at the beach. (In fairness to Miguel, I don’t think it was the best move for Sam and Robby to show up holding hands when there was tension between Miguel and Sam- even if Robby was just helping her down the hill). But at this point Robby has never actually done anything to Miguel to warrant Miguel’s hatred towards him. Miguel’s dislike of Robby- again, a guy he’s never met at that point- is based on pure paranoia and insecurity caused by miscommunication in his then toxic relationship with Sam. Miguel’s antagonism towards Robby isn’t based on any concrete facts. Robby and Sam aren’t together and cheating like Miguel assumes they are. Miguel ignites a rivalry between him and Robby based on pure speculation. He ignites a rivalry essentially for nothing.

By the time we reach the S3 altercation, there’s obviously much more history between Miguel and Robby. In Robby’s mind, Miguel is the guy who has continually attacked and provoked him during their interactions, with the most recent attack having horrendous consequences and landing Robby in juvie when all Robby wanted to do was stop the fight and protect his girlfriend. I’m not condoning Robby moving to attack Miguel, but because of the history between them, I’m far more understanding towards his reasons for doing this. I would completely understand if Robby was thinking he would strike first before Miguel got the chance to do what he always does- again, strike first- especially after Miguel issued a challenge unprovoked and was ready to go. Robby’s reasons for attacking Miguel actually are based on concrete facts and objective history between the two. This might be a stretch - but Robby going to punch Miguel could weirdly be considered a form of defence after being threatened. “If an enemy insists on war- then you take away his ability to wage it” comes to mind. That approach worked with Robby in juvie when he dealt with Shawn threatening him - so in Robby’s mind it could work with Miguel threatening him now. Miguel was ready for a fight- so Robby was going to get in there first.

This leads me to both of the boys’ anger towards Sam in these altercations. Like Miguel and Sam’s confrontation, Robby and Sam’s is centred around misunderstanding. The difference is I would argue that Robby has more justifiable reasons for being upset with her. Again, Miguel’s anger towards Sam was based on nothing but paranoia. The one thing I can understand Miguel being angry about is her hiding their relationship from Daniel and that only fuelled his insecurities. The simple fact of the matter is - again, she wasn’t cheating on him. Nothing really warranted him being THAT angry and disrespectful towards her. Miguel just assumes the worst in her without any concrete evidence.

Robby’s anger towards Sam is more understandable and yet, he’s still respectful towards Sam even after he learns she cheated on him. He STILL defends her against anybody that speaks badly of her and gives her the benefit of the doubt. Then after all of his defending of the girl who cheated on him and who hasn’t been there for him, he comes back to his once safe place to find her in the arms of the guy she cheated on him with and who has made his life a living hell since their first interaction. Anybody would be livid and even after all of that- Robby’s first instinct isn’t to immediately incite violence the way Miguel’s always is.

People look at these “parallel “ situations in far too simple a manner. There’s so much context and nuance to them that actually makes them completely different.

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The way Cobra Kai could’ve been a show about cycles of abuse directly tracing back to how the military preys on young, vulnerable, desperate men and intentionally destroys their humanity, turning them into a living weapon only to thrust them back into civilization with little to no support or means to assimilate back into daily life or to process what was done to them or what they were forced to do to others in the name of an agenda that wasn’t what they were told it was and that they don’t even believe in or understand. And how instead we have whatever the fuck this show has become.

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“The last time we fought - why didn’t you hold back ?” Miguel asks Robby at the end of their S5 apartment fight. You could ask Miguel the exact same question with regards to him attacking Robby and escalating the school fight fight in the first place 👀

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Another scene that annoyed me in S5 - Johnny declaring to Robby in Ep 1 that he went looking for Robby with Daniel in S3, yet failing to mention that he bailed as usual the minute things got difficult and when he heard Miguel was awake. Johnny gave up. I can understand wanting to see Miguel after he woke up, but the fact of the matter is that Johnny knew Miguel was somewhere safe and now awake. Johnny also knew that Robby was out on the streets all alone and in an unsafe situation, yet he abandoned the search for his son because seeing Miguel was more important. Surely his priority should have been to secure Robby’s safety and then see Miguel in the knowledge that both boys were in better and safer situations. Even after he’s seen Miguel for the first time since he woke up in S3 there’s then no desire exhibited from Johnny to resume his search for his son. It’s as if he’s completely forgotten about Robby now that Miguel is awake.

Then Robby’s “I had no idea” as if Johnny actually did something for him. Ugh. I wish that Robby had asked Johnny why Daniel was alone when he found him with Shannon if Johnny went on the search with Daniel. Johnny would have been forced to admit he abandoned his search for Robby in favour of seeing Miguel. Of course though, the writers are determined to leave out important context so that they can narratively frame Johnny in a better light as a father.

The reality is, to Robby, Johnny is still as shitty a father as ever, even though I did like some of the bonding scenes between them. Johnny’s never done anything for Robby where Robby is the primary focus. Robby and Johnny’s first “father and son trip” consisted of Johnny dragging robby to Mexico under false pretences and placing him in danger to find the kid that he’s been prioritising over Robby since S1. The fact that people are praising Johnny for becoming a better father figure is completely insane to me.

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Not but seriously what am I going to do with my life if Robby doesn’t win the Sekai Taikai? We have everything against us!! First of all, Ralph’s interview saying we might see Robby as a Sensei instead of a participant, and then the fact that half of the fandom expects Robby to win AND COBRA KAI NEVER ALLOWS US TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THIS (like seriously I don’t know about you guys but I didn’t see it coming when Tory and Hawk won, mostly because I didn’t think they were going to make a a boys and girls division tho but anyways). So yeah, they always give us what we don’t expect and I will lose it.

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Click on the first image to see the full post. I saw this on instagram. Ok don’t get me wrong, I LOVE Xolo Mariduena and Vanessa Rubio, they’re both fantastic actors and seem like genuinely great people, but there’s something that just doesn’t feel right to me about the actors even joking that Miguel should have kicked Robby over the balcony at the end of their S5 fight. I’ve seen so many die hard Miguel stans saying that Miguel should have just gone ahead and done it as an act of revenge and surely the actors even joking about it will only encourage those people. Like even the actors are low key kind of shitting on Robby and promoting the idea that Miguel is innocent, even if they are joking. I’ve never seen the actors make these kinds of jokes about any of the other characters. I don’t know, maybe I’m just reading far too much into it and it’s a sort of in-joke between the actors, but again, it just didn’t sit right with me.

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Very interesting. Makes sense given that Johnny and Miguel were the aggressors with Daniel and Robby respectively, thus starting their rivalries.

Putting aside how this is in no way a proper parallel, I do find it interesting how Robby is paralleled with Daniel while Miguel is paralleled with Johnny

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Sorry but literally the saddest moment in the history of the whole world is actually when Robby is waiting on Johnny to show up to visit him and he’s just anxiously shaking his leg and clutching his hands together and hiding his face behind them and then Johnny doesn’t show. Just like always.

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To add on to my previous post about the apartment fight-while what Johnny did was very abusive to Robby, it's actually not at all surprising that it was good for Miguel. I discussed this with someone I know who is a psychologist and specializes in child development. While that fight is by no means an ideal therapeutic technique and is usually highly frowned upon, if you look at it from the shows context it makes perfect sense. Now Miguel obviously has trauma from the fall and that's perfectly understandable. That said, it was not Robby's fault and I won't say that Robby is responsible for traumatizing Miguel. Miguel is traumatized by the accident itself and chose to pin the blame on Robby rather than examining the role he played. As far as the fall and it's aftermath is concerned, Miguel was surrounded by people at his beck and call. He had constant support from his family, friends and even got Sam back. People were doing fundraisers for him. So while that fight was by no means a proper therapeutic technique, it makes sense that it would be healing for Miguel because he finally got exactly what he wanted. He got to beat Robby up and feel like a hero. After all, for the past 4 seasons, Miguel had been burning up with the knowledge that the only reason he'd beaten Robby was bc he played dirty and Robby was badly injured. Then he had Johnny call him out for it. Then he found out that the same kid he had to fight dirty to win against was the son of the man he considered his own. To add insult to injury, this kid was also who the girl he viewed as his chose over him. Then of course the school fight happened and Miguel's grudge against Robby just grew even more. So when he finally got permission from Johnny to beat Robby, he took it. While Miguel was ready for the fight, Robby was hesitant. You can see an unsure expression on his face as he braces himself. He knew that this was the opportunity Miguel had been waiting for and he knew that there was no way out for him except to fight. So he did and then when he realized that fighting back would only prolong things and make it worse, he stopped. Of course, it's also very likely that he stopped bc he felt that he deserved it. We all know Robby is far too quick to shoulder blame.

So when Miguel pulled him back from the railing, he offered up an apology to Miguel. Miguel, who now has everything he has ever wanted, is more than happy to take it as if he is doing Robby a favor. The reason the flashbacks are shown from Miguel's perspective is bc the fight was only ever meant for his sake. It certainly wasn't for Robby's. So Miguel gets to be the hero and gets an apology from the kid who he declared a vendetta against from the moment he met him. The best part? He got to do it with Johnny's full permission. So no, I don't feel sorry for Miguel at all during that scene nor am I impressed by him at all. Of course Miguel tells Hawk that he and Robby are cool now. Because as far as Miguel is concerned, the order of his universe has been restored. He's cool with Robby now just like Johnny is cool with Robby now. He's cool with Robby bc Robby has submitted to him in the same way he submitted to Johnny. This fight is the biggest proof of all that everything Miguel gains always comes at the cost of Robby's happiness, safety and health. It's as though these things are stolen from Robby to give to Miguel

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The fact that Johnny literally witnesses Miguel pushing and being aggressive with Robby in the water park parking lot, yet never queries why Miguel is doing that makes my blood boil. Meanwhile he takes every opportunity he gets to blame Robby for starting fights (as he did in S3 during his juvie visit) and to pin all of Miguel and Robby’s beef on Robby when Miguel literally ignited their rivalry🤦‍♀️

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honestly this is a mistake on my part but never in my wildest dreams did i imagine johnny pushing miguel and robby into “fighting it out”. i knew they’d fight again, i knew miguel would have to beat robby before putting the rivalry to rest, i knew it would be some attempt at a full circle moment, but johnny? that might’ve been the only plot twist that actually left me gasping.

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cobra kai trying to make robby excited about johnny & carmen's baby is truly the stupidest fucking thing hes like "dad i'm so happy for you!!1!" as if that isnt the same man who abandoned and neglected and literally left him homeless as a child