jewomens

[jewomens]

Broke: Neil Gaiman must have read Good Omens fanfiction/hc’s with the amount of tropes that ended up in S2

Woke: Those fanfic writers knew the characters well enough that their guesses and “what if’s” were canon possibilities the whole time

#yes he’s involved in the fan community #but he’s a writer who clearly loves telling his own stories #if he had read them (or remembered reading them) I doubt they would’ve been included #be proud of yourselves (and fellow fans) for writing canon before it was canon #you guys clearly rock :) #good omens #good omens season 2 #gos2 #ineffable husbands

[jewomens]

Neil Gaiman mentioned earlier this summer that he wrote Crowley as Jewish, and lately I’ve been curious how that plays into his S2 arc of questioning and disillusionment.

Obviously Crowley isn’t ethnically or religiously Jewish, but it’s a pretty major part of Judaism and Jewish identity to question God and reinterpret the Torah as times change, and he specified that this was what he was referring to when discussing Crowley’s Jewishness.

His parallels to Christians who lose their faith are far more immediately apparent, so I could just be grasping at straws here, but there’s something about the way Crowley doesn’t fit easily inside Christian mythos, how he’s the first to really embrace life on Earth, and how he routinely dismisses Heaven and Hell that has a distinctly Jewish feel to it.

It’s also implied he had a closer relationship to God and Metatron than many of the other supernatural characters. When he tries to talk to God in S1E4, his tone is casual, and his language implies that God spoke to him at some point about His/Her plans for humanity. It’s almost as if he’s talking to a friend, which is a huge contrast to Aziraphale’s attempt to contact Him/Her (i.e. the ritual circle). Crowley’s also the first to recognize Metatron when he comes to Earth in S2, even after several instances of forgetting angels and demons he worked with previously.

This isn’t to say that Jews are somehow closer to God than Christians, just that - from what I’ve seen - Jews tend to have a more casual, interpersonal approach to their relationship with God than many more serious Christians. For example, the ideal of being “godfearing” seems to be more prominent and highly praised in Christian communities than Jewish ones, and the disparity between God and humans in Christianity (that God is infallible and perfect, and the humans are born tainted with sin) is really not a major part of Judaism at all. Rather, Jews see humans (and the Jewish people specifically) as having a role in making the world a better place, and that Satan is a tool of God’s to help challenge people to be better than their baser instincts. While I can’t speak to Crowley’s beliefs on that, his lack of total deference without any outright hostility seems more similar to the Jewish relationship to God than the Christian one.

That implied closeness could also be a hint at Crowley’s angelic alter-ego, and it might have nothing to do with Judaism. Unfortunately there’s no real way of confirming one way or the other until the third season comes out.

Either way, it’s fun to think about. Explorations of Jewish thought and relationship to God (particularly those written by someone with Jewish heritage) are few and far between, so it was an interesting idea to play with. Any thoughts/questions totally welcome! Most of this was fun speculation on my part, so I’m curious to see what other people might have to say.

#good omens #Jewish Crowley #good omens spoilers #good omens season two spoilers #gos2 spoilers #crowley #religion in good omens #good omens season 2

[jewomens]

I just want to take a second to say that - regardless of what people think of the ending - it was incredibly ballsy of Neil Gaiman to take an ambiguous and inoffensively queer relationship that half the fandom denied existed, and make the romance and love between them so obviously canon. That kind of easily deniable queer relationship is common, and it was super refreshing to have an author actually be willing to alienate part of their audience in order to be true to the characters and take a definitive stance.

The fact that he managed to do that while still preserving that delicate tenderness everyone loved about them to begin with is everything I could’ve hoped for tbh.

#also can’t wait for david and michael to be able to talk freely about all this instead of attempting to maintain plausible deniability #not that they were really trying #but still lol #please pay actors so we can listen to them geek out #good omens #good omens season two spoilers #good omens spoilers #gos2 spoilers #ineffable husbands

[jewomens]

GOS2 Finale Spoilers:

It seems like the ending’s a bit controversial already, but personally, I’m excited to really see Aziraphale dig deep into moral ambiguity.

So far, he’s been able to get by on believing that God has an all-knowing, ineffable plan with morals he agrees with, and that all the other angels are just misinterpreting that mission. Whenever he had real doubts, (particularly this season) he was able to ignore them by doing what was right, while still avoiding any outright confrontations with God’s plan. Him and Crowley just quietly fixed things, and he never had to turn away from God completely (at least in his own mind).

It’s clear too from the finale that he saw Crowley’s fall as a mistake, rather than a justified act of rebellion. That, yes, he has come to respect Crowley and believe in his goodness over thousands of years, but instead of learning that moral quality isn’t determined by institutions, he “learned” that Crowley never should’ve fallen in the first place (because he’s good at heart, he must still be an *angel* at heart, right?).

With him at the top, he’ll be forced to confront the root of it, and I think it’ll be pretty amazing to see what he finds.

None of that means my heart isn’t cracked in two (or that I’m not devastated on Crowley’s behalf) - just that I’m on board to see how Neil *actually* finishes the story.

#good omens #good omens season 2 #ineffable husbands #good omens spoilers #good omens season two spoilers #gos2 spoilers #gos2

[jewomens]

let's start a fun game while we're waiting for go2 !!! rb and in the tags claim a random minute (0-54 ?? that's the average episode length in s1 im pretty sure) from a random s2 episode (1-6), for example: episode 3, 32:54. then when you watch the season come back and say what scene you got (make sure to tag spoilers though) !!

#all I’m gonna say is #T-O-S-T-E #that was it that’s the scene #good omens spoilers #gos2 spoilers #good omens season two spoilers

[jewomens]

Maybe I'm just tired, but I just disagree that the kiss was a last-ditch Temptation(tm)

Idk, it was A LOT right, with all sorts of layers and feelings, but I just am not getting the Temptation vibes y'all seem to be

#agreed #it was way too desperate and badly timed for that #to me it just seemed like a last minute bid for him to stay #which 😭 #but anyway #good omens spoilers #good omens season two spoilers #gos2 spoilers

[jewomens]

let's start a fun game while we're waiting for go2 !!! rb and in the tags claim a random minute (0-54 ?? that's the average episode length in s1 im pretty sure) from a random s2 episode (1-6), for example: episode 3, 32:54. then when you watch the season come back and say what scene you got (make sure to tag spoilers though) !!

#😂 I’m down #calling episode 5 minute 33 #good omens #ineffable husbands

[jewomens]

COUNTDOWN TO GOOD OMENS S2 | 4 days

We can run away together! Alpha Centauri! Lots of spare planets up there. Nobody’d even notice us!

#seriously in awe of Michael Sheen’s depressed pout here #can’t wait to see more of it this week lol #ineffable husbands