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why she cant call kate a beast???' i hate how POC keep saying they want equally rights and al but then you cant complain about not getting a job becasue of diversity shit if you are white, or you cant call somone a beast if it is brown. You will keep hating Pen even if she was and angel, just because you all are fatphobics. SAD SAD world.

If Eloise has the right to not listen to Pen warning, edwina had the right to not listening kate making of her telling anthony was not a good match but not saying she wanted him for herself. You all prasing cheaters and villanasing the only plus size woman is disgusting

This says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about me. There's a reason you're not saying this off anon.

ALSO A PERSON IS NEVER AN IT

And on the topic of the s2 love triangle, Anthony was just as much to blame for that mess if not more but he's conveniently the only party that gets a free pass from the fandom whereas both Kate and Edwina have been torn to shreds since the day the season dropped. I have my issues with the writing of s2, I don't like that they changed Anthony's brief interest of Edwina as a potential bride in the books into a full-blown love triangle in s2. I think it was detrimental to all 3 characters involved. It was a huge disservice to all three characters.

Also, y'all do know that this is just one show? This wasn't even Nicola's big break, her big break was Derry Girls. Now I have widely different feelings about Claire and Penelope despite the fact that they're physically the same person, its almost like the writing for them both made the difference. Oh wait, that's exactly what happened.

#anti penelope featherington

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Am I supposed to care that Penelope ruined Eloise's reputation when Eloise had spent the entire second season chasing away all her potential suitors?

I mean, what Penelope did was wrong, but I can't find myself to care so much because Eloise is getting exactly what she has always wanted: spinsterhood.

Eloise doesn't want to confirm to society's expectations for her, yes that's true.

BUT

What Penelope did affects more than Eloise herself. It affects the rest of her family, especially her two younger sisters. Her simply becoming a spinster wouldn't affect Francesca and Hyacinth's prospects, this would and may well do so this season with Francesca debuting on the social scene.

Plus, Penelope should have known better considering she nearly suffered the same consequences after revealing Marina's secret. Had Daphne not invited herself, Portia & her sisters personally to the ball in s1 ep 8 and had Marina not opted to marry for the sake of her babies, not only would Penelope & her sisters' prospects been ruined, they would've likely been shunned for the rest of their lives.

It also limits Eloise's ability to further engage in political discussions and with wider society.

#thank you! #its the way people continously brush over and ignore eloises trauma over hyacinths birth #she just lost her dad and then her mum is going through a horrific labour #but according to some anons in my askbox shes a spolit brat #eloise they could never make me hate you

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Am I supposed to care that Penelope ruined Eloise's reputation when Eloise had spent the entire second season chasing away all her potential suitors?

I mean, what Penelope did was wrong, but I can't find myself to care so much because Eloise is getting exactly what she has always wanted: spinsterhood.

Eloise doesn't want to confirm to society's expectations for her, yes that's true.

BUT

What Penelope did affects more than Eloise herself. It affects the rest of her family, especially her two younger sisters. Her simply becoming a spinster wouldn't affect Francesca and Hyacinth's prospects, this would and may well do so this season with Francesca debuting on the social scene.

Plus, Penelope should have known better considering she nearly suffered the same consequences after revealing Marina's secret. Had Daphne not invited herself, Portia & her sisters personally to the ball in s1 ep 8 and had Marina not opted to marry for the sake of her babies, not only would Penelope & her sisters' prospects been ruined, they would've likely been shunned for the rest of their lives.

It also limits Eloise's ability to further engage in political discussions and with wider society.

#anti penelope featherington #eloise bridgerton

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im not confuse, you always do, praising kate, and how beautiful she is, and making fan of pen is fatphobic and you dont speak abut her body directly but undirectly yes.

second, WERE FOR GODS SAKE MARINA APOLOGISE TO PEN???? she never, she was a total bitch saying " your love is a unrequited fantasy, he desire me as a woman and see you as a girl. MARINAS WAS A BAD PERSON WHO HAPPENS TO BE PREGNANT AND NOW SHE IS ALLOW TO BE A BITCH

1, "you always do" again, you're projecting onto me anon.

2, speaks for itself

Bridgerton Season 1 Episode 8 'After the rain' (circa minute 5-6; if you want to be precise). And that total bitch is the one who spent 1 of her 2 scenes in s2 telling Colin to look towards Penelope.

#anti penelope featherington #marina thompson #marina they could never make me hate you for things you never did

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what you wrote about penelope is TOTALLY BULLSHIT!!!! she didnt harm anyone!!! your fatphobie is disfgusting!!! pen find a new, bold, intelligent way to win money for her life as a spinster with a economically ruined family . The beast comment to kate is totally inocent and in act Eloise didnt listen to her when she aid not keep going to the printer!!! eloise didnt listen

Bullshit = Canon events that happened in the show

Didn't harm anyone? Lmao truly anon

Pray tell, where did I comment on Penelope's appearance? You must have my askbox confused with someone else's. This is not an airport, no need to announce your departure anon

#👏👏👏👏 #^ all of this

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what you wrote about penelope is TOTALLY BULLSHIT!!!! she didnt harm anyone!!! your fatphobie is disfgusting!!! pen find a new, bold, intelligent way to win money for her life as a spinster with a economically ruined family . The beast comment to kate is totally inocent and in act Eloise didnt listen to her when she aid not keep going to the printer!!! eloise didnt listen

Bullshit = Canon events that happened in the show

Didn't harm anyone? Lmao truly anon

Pray tell, where did I comment on Penelope's appearance? You must have my askbox confused with someone else's. This is not an airport, no need to announce your departure anon

#anti penelope featherington

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plus, PEN DIDN UINED FUCKING MARINA!!! that bitch, thanks to stupid daphne end marrying a reach title man and she is living her best life, so she didnt ruined anyone

Stupid Daphne? Like I have my criticisms of Daphne re that scene in ep 6 but stupid? Really? For helping someone in a shitty situation? Empathy is stupid. Cool coop cool.

"Living her best life" I READ THE BOOKS I KNOW HOW THIS ENDS BUDDY

And let's recap;

She had no choice

Her reputation is still stained so her options of getting out of that marriage is non existent

JUST BECAUSE HE'S RICH AND TITLED DOESN'T MAKE HIM A DECENT GUY

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MARINAS WASNT PEN FRIEND!!! did you watch s1?' marina was a bitch making fun of pen feelings

Marina who apologised for what she said to Pen about her feelings for Colin?

Marina who told Pen that one day Colin may see how much she cares for her and feel the same?

Marina who advocated for Colin to look towards Pen in season 2?

Yeah I don't think I'm the one who has to rewatch the show...

#anti penelope featherington #marina thompson

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Me: I raise funds in D.C. for the Washington Monument [I love that one feminist and intellectual writer in Bridgerton]

LW/Penelope: She tells my story -

Me: I speak out against slavery [NOT YOU]

Me: You could have done so much more if you only had time

#theo sharpe #eloise bridgerton #eloise x theo #anti penelope featherington #<- for the block list #a revolutionary who fights for all #but I'm meant to be rooting for Marinas death so Eloise can end up with discount mr rochester? yeah nah #ya lost me #anti philoise

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It's hard not to find irony in the criticisms directed towards Eloise Bridgerton and the elevation of Penelope Featherington as a more genuine and hardworking figure in contrast with Eloise's supposed privileged circumstances and her discourse on feminism. Indeed, some voices have pointed out Eloise's feminism as something white and privileged, and while this is not without merit, it's akin to rediscovering what others have already noticed, akin to Christopher Columbus "discovering" America.

Understanding the context in which "Bridgerton" unfolds is essential. The series is set in Regency England, between 1813 and 1825. This historical period is marked by a highly stratified and conservative society, where women, especially those of the upper class, were relegated to traditional roles and lacked basic legal rights. In this context, any discussion of feminism must consider the unique limitations and challenges of the time.

It is true that Eloise Bridgerton, being part of a respected family in English nobility, embodies many of the characteristics associated with the white and privileged feminism of the time. However, this should not diminish the value of her role in advancing feminist ideas in her historical context. It is thanks to women like Eloise, who challenged social expectations and dared to question the status quo, that doors were opened for future, more inclusive feminist movements.

On the other hand, when analyzing Penelope Featherington's role in contrast with Eloise Bridgerton's, intriguing nuances worthy of a more detailed critical exploration are revealed. Although both come from upper-class families, Penelope's experiences differ significantly from Eloise's. In the society depicted in "Bridgerton," Penelope is portrayed as a more marginal figure, overshadowed by the prominence and glamour of the Bridgerton family. She is often seen in the background, struggling to find her place in a world where her social status does not put her at the center of attention.

However, it is crucial to unravel the narrative surrounding Penelope's role as Lady Whistledown. While her work as the mysterious chronicler may be perceived as an act of empowerment and determination, it is essential to question the underlying ethics of her actions. While Penelope has shown dedication and effort in her role, her method of earning a living is morally questionable. Lady Whistledown's identity is based on the creation and dissemination of gossip and scandals, which often result in harm to innocent people caught in her web of intrigue.

Throughout the series, Penelope exhibits a distressing lack of empathy and solidarity towards other women. Instead of promoting unity and support among her peers, her writings are driven by feelings of envy, resentment, and desires for revenge. Striking examples of this are her actions to publicly reveal Marina Thompson's pregnancy, with the intention of undermining her relationship with Colin Bridgerton, or defaming people like Daphne, Edwina, and Kate Sheffield, often for no apparent reason other than personal gain.

Penelope's behavior as Lady Whistledown sheds light on her complex nature and motivations. While it may represent an attempt to find her voice in a world dominated by more powerful figures, it also reveals a tendency towards manipulation and selfishness. Ultimately, her role as the mysterious chronicler is more than just a quest for identity; it is a reflection of the moral and ethical complexities underlying the society of "Bridgerton."

In summary, asserting that Penelope is more feminist and hardworking than Eloise due to her role as Lady Whistledown is, at best, simplistic and, at worst, deeply misleading. Both women, while privileged in their own right, have chosen different paths in life and have faced their own challenges. However, the narrative of Penelope as a morally superior and more genuinely hardworking figure should be questioned in light of her actions and motivations, which often reveal a lack of integrity and empathy towards her peers.

It's important to note that when Theo confronts Eloise, questioning her understanding of the real world and her privileged position, Eloise doesn't reject this criticism but uses it as a catalyst to seek greater understanding. Recognizing the validity of Theo's observation, Eloise actively seeks to broaden her horizons. She engages in conversations with Theo and John, seeking to break free from the bubble of privilege in which she has lived so far.

On the other hand, Penelope takes a different stance towards her own privileged position. Instead of acknowledging her situation and seeking to understand the realities of those less privileged, Penelope vehemently denies any suggestion that she also benefits from the system. Rather than accepting her position of privilege, she portrays herself as a victim, despite her actions suggesting otherwise. Ultimately, this divergence in attitudes between Eloise and Penelope highlights the complexity of individual perceptions of privilege and personal responsibility in an unequal world.

PS: The comment: "Penelope saved Eloise by writing that she hung out with radicals, she doesn't know what it's like to be grateful" is shit. Whose fucking fault is it that the Queen is on a crusade with torches and pitchforks, looking for blood and a rolling head? From Penelope because she doesn't know when to keep her hand still and stop writing, if it weren't for Penelope, the queen wouldn't think that Eloise is Lady Whistledown, Penelope wasn't looking to help Eloise, she was looking to save her skin.

#i have no nothing further to add other than #👏👏👏👏 #THIS

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So Eloise doesn't know about Cressida blackmailing Daphne, and, as Daphne will not appear in season 3, it's unlikely Eloise will ever know about it. But Eloise is the villain for not knowing that and entering a friendship (a friendship we don't know the exact context of yet) with Cressida? Yes, Cressida is obviously no saint, but she never pretended not to be a bully, while Penelope has used LW to bully others anonymously, including Eloise's own family. But again, I'm apparently supposed to be more angry at Eloise? For reacting pettily to the reveal of Penelope's bullying of her family - particularly Anthony & Daphne - and betrayal of her trust? Cressida has always been a bitch, but she's been honest about it. Better the devil you know than false friends.

#eloise bridgerton #anti penelope featherington #anti polin #pro Eloise Bridgerton

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didnt she also say something nasty about the queen when one of her kids had just died

Yeah here's part 2 of this

The way she talked about the death of Queen Charlotte's granddaughter; Princess Charlotte, who was historically only twenty-one when she died in childbirth. The Lady Whistledown commentary in QC is just outright cruel, it's clear Queen Charlotte in the off-season (QC present day timeline being set in the Winter/Early spring break between season 2 & 3) becomes Penelope's biggest target in the aftermath of her fallout with Eloise. There's no other way to describe it.

Ngl the above is really disturbing to me. She's angry at Eloise, has lost access to info from the Bridgertons because of her falling out with Eloise, and she's angry at the Queen for getting angry at Penelope's own words as LW, and trying to discover LW as a result. And so she spends the off-season insulting and attacking a grieving Queen Charlotte. I mean that's one way for a flower to bloom I guess...

Theo, one of the only working class characters in the show, nearly lost his job because of lady whistledown and may have lost it in the aftermath of the season.

A lot of her general commentary as Lady Whistledown isn't clever or witty; it's just outright cruel.

The way she talks about the Bridgerton family, a family that trusts and cares for her, is horrible. Particularly, the way she wrote about Daphne in season 1.

Betraying Eloise's trust for two entire seasons because it didn't start with the Theo situation. She listened to Eloise's frustrations about Daphne and then used LW to attack and belittle Daphne. Speaking as a sibling, I will rant about my sisters until kingdom come to my friends but the minute a so-called friend starts publicly attacking my sister, it's over. I would not be in control of my actions. Like over the course of two seasons, she's attacked and nearly destroyed the reputations of Eloise's eldest sister, two of her brothers, her first love, and the entire family as a result. Judging by the Bridgertons were born to shine line in the trailer, I doubt Francesca will make it through the season unscathed.

She hasn't felt real remorse. Despite nearly causing Marina's death (as she tried to miscarry in the aftermath of LW revealing her pregnancy), she ends season 1 smirking about being LW. Hasn't written or contacted Marina to see how she has been since, got jealous Colin went to see her and still probably hasn't written or visited her. Not to mention her "I least did something. All you did is talk" speech at the end of season 2 to Eloise. A speech that wasn't even accurate as Eloise had been to meetings, listened to speeches and debates, debated with Theo, shared and read and discussed different political leaflets with Theo, Eloise had grown intellectually from the beginning to the end of the season. It's because of Penelope that that came to an end.

Outside of rescuing Daphne from her betrothel to Berbrooke in s1, what good has her work as LW actually done? It's ruined far more lives than it's helped, and intervened countless times when it didn't have authority to. Many secrets weren't Penelope's to tell.

I could honestly keep going but I genuinely don't know how she's supposed to get redeemed in eight episodes because the character we have at the minute in no way deserves a happy ending. LW didn't really matter in the books as it wasn't as active a plot point as it is in the show. By expanding the LW concept to give Penelope a more complex arc, they've unwittingly robbed her of what made people like her book counterpart and as a result created a villain that they have no intention of trying to redeem, because they don't believe she needs to be redeemed.

#anti polin #anti penelope featherington #book violet would never forgive her let alone welcome her into the family

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Penelope:

Betrayed the trust of those closest to her including friends, namely Eloise and Marina, and her own family

Nearly ruined/ruined multiple people's reputations out of jealousy (Daphne & Marina)

Straight up attacked people who never had a bad word to say about her (Kate, Edwina, Anthony, Daphne)

Nearly ruined her own family's reputation

Nearly destroyed the Bridgerton's reputation

If she truly had Eloise's best interests at heart THERE WERE OTHER WAYS TO GET HER OFF QUEEN CHARLOTTE'S SUSPECT LIST. Eloise wasn't out in season 1, she wasn't present for most of the events Lady Whistledown described. Tell the Queen directly about Theo as she loves a love story. Or you know reveal herself. But no protecting her secret identity took priority.

Destroyed an actual working woman's business (the seamstress from last season) for personal gain (to get Genevieve Delacroix on side after she discovered her lady whistledown secret)

Her comments about George III's mental health are shall we say yikes in qc

The way she handled the Marina and Colin situation. If she truly had Colins best interests at heart, she could've told him or Eloise directly or through another anonymous means. By publishing it, she nearly destroyed her own family's and colins reputation, and trapped Marina in a marriage that if it goes anything like the book will kill her.

But Eloise is the villain for being a young woman and pettily starting a duo with her ex best friend's enemy after learning about the above? Yeah nah.

#anti penelope featherington #anti polin #more anti the fandom for the above bs I've seen but anyways #can the fandom learn they can like a character and acknowledge their faults? #is eloise perfect? nope #but she is getting so unfairly hated its ridiculous

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My husband has returned from war hiatus

#bridgerton #bridgerton netflix #benedict bridgerton

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Theo Sharpe, Marina Thompson, and Eloise Bridgerton, they could never make me hate you <3

#Bridgerton #bridgerton netflix #eloise bridgerton #she deserves better from both the writers and the fandom #anti philoise #marina thompson #theo sharpe #eloise x theo #marina deserves better period #her arc is a mess #if they do to her what they did in the books i swear - #theo you deserve the world

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"Destiel didn't do anything", let's not rewrite history here. There's many things I could point out but I'll draw focus to The Castiel Project, a fundraiser for the Trevor Project x

You are right though, Buck was always bi regardless Destiel. But Cas' coming out had an impact. Like Buck, he was a character in a long-running show that was read as queer by fans. His coming out broke a barrier, like it or not. It made it easier for 911 to have Buck come out. It gave the writers something to bring to the network if they had pushback, to be able to point at something like "look this show did this, we'd like to do something similar, here was the reaction from the fans". Buck is now on his own journey, and I'm looking forward to seeing it. Cas took a step, Buck is taking a leap so that whoever comes next can go further. It's all about paying it forward.

Part of acknowledging and celebrating good representation is appreciating those who paved the way for it. The actors and the writers behind it, but also the ones who came before it, and the ones who fought so hard but it just wasn't enough. The characters and the writers that walked so that Tim and Oliver and Buck could run. Those who came before had an impact, they mattered and they are a huge part of the reason we've gotten to where we are now.

Countless queer characters have been censored, sidelined and erased. I can think of countless examples. We're only now turning the tide and taking those stories back, taking ownership of what could've and what should've been.

There was a time before November 5th 2020 and there was a time after it, just like there was a time before April 4th 2024 and a time after it. They did what would've been unthinkable before, and the world will be a better place for it. It's not all about Destiel, because many shows and characters paved the way for them too, but let's acknowledge the impact of November 5th. We may meme that day to hell but God you just had to be there. Broke tumblr multiple times, trended over the US election, brought everyone and their mother out of the Woodwork. It's something I've only seen replicated now with Buck. This is a celebration, but it's also about solidarity and about feeling seen, that's the importance and the strength of representation. The quest for better representation is ongoing, the baton is passed and I can't wait to see how far it goes. The goal of good representation is to leave the world a better place than how one found it.

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"BUCK CANT BE BI HES A LADYS MAN!" since when the fuck was that mutually exclusive? Shock horror Bi people can have preferences. I swear these people want bi people to provide a certificate proving their attraction to more than one gender 💀💀

#911 season 7 #911 abc #911 spoilers #bi buck #evan buck buckely #buck x eddie #evan buckley #oliver stark