11x13kyle

[11x13kyle]

funniest character dynamic in the world to me is when you have one guy knows hes gay but doesnt realise hes in love with his best friend and another guy who knows hes in love with his best friend but does not know hes gay

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[11x13kyle]

[11x13kyle]

what did you think of spring break. gay stan is canon now basically right

(edit: meant to publish this a while ago and forgot because I have the short term memory of a goldfish now)

This made me realize I never gave my thoughts on the last two episodes. Will do another day. (ron howard arrested development narration: she did not.)

To answer your actual question, I -love- how often an episode plot that tangentially relates either directly or more discreetly to some kind of societal crisis of masculinity and/or gender anxiety includes Stan. obvious examples include Cissy, wherein which Stan is seemingly the only one outside of Wendy and Cartman's Shakespearean twelfth night transgender double bluff who has any semblance of actual "crisis" over the modern conception of gender identity, for seemingly no reason? We don't get a scene of him trying on a dress (*cough* chp9 of abfooc *cough*) or asking "what if I'm not a boy?" but his scenes seem to suggest or imply he is asking those questions privately with himself. Stan also shares a lot of focus in tweek and Craig -- not necessarily that homosexuality as a subject for commentary is 1:1 interchangeable with masculinity *now* but for an older generation, like those of Matt and Trey's age, it certainly is, and there really is no way to create a clear cut distinction between homosexuality and transgenderism as two separate experiences with no overlap despite efforts to on both sides of the culture war. Literally the first season of south park has Stan befriend a character named Big Gay Al and proclaim to the entire town that homosexuality is a natural and beautiful thing against the backdrop of our a-plot in which Stan laments his dog being gay b/c he isn't a 'butch' manly dog. Combine that with Stan's growing romantic disinterest in both Wendy specifically (with an episode -this- season showing just that) and girls more broadly as the show has gone on, goddamn. nevermind the subtext we can project onto on the covid specials where Stan, unwell and suffering the simulated tyranny of marriage to a woman (or, woman-figure. We are talking about a robot here.) Is only able to achieve any semblance of happiness by travelling into his own past to tell himself he needs to forgive Kyle or he will regret it every day for the rest of his life. So.

straight Stan -- 0. Gay Stan -- 1

honestly I think part of this is probably that trey parker in a lot of ways strikes me as someone very much so not a Man's Man, y'know. He's loves the shock value, paegentry, and the spectacle of flirting with cross dressing, homosexuality, and gender non-conformity in his chosen mediums in a very attuned... Dare I say, almost butlerian fashion. and also in a way that only infrequently comes across as judgemental or cruel. Though this is obviously not coming from a queer theorist framework and more just trey Parker's longstanding "if you tell me I can't do this I will just to spite you and also fuck you I can do what I want." attitude.

long story short, yeah. yeah stan's gay. throw up the banner.

#stan’s gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #stan

[11x13kyle]

Domestic fluff: who cooks better Stan or Kyle?

stan can only cook hotpockets or burnt poptarts, kyle is average at cooking but stan thinks its the most astounding thing hes ever tasted

#style

[11x13kyle]

Greek mythology anon again (sorry if I'm getting annoying) I have not been able to get Oedipus Cartman out of my head. It works but I don't know why argh I'm going insane. Begging you to explain your thoughts to me!!!

character who is damned by his own hubris kills his own father without realizing that it’s his father and though he doesn’t marry his mom, liane DOES have terminal boymom disease and it’s incurable

#asks

[11x13kyle]

Greek mythology anon here. I can totally see Cartman - Oedipus in a world where he tries to redeem himself and still ends up being his own destruction, (a more interesting post covid perhaps), but Oedipus seems more like a Kyle character to me? The self righteous hubris and downfall caused because you couldn't stop picking at the answers even when everyone told you to drop it. I can absolutely see Kyle - Antigone, though, and Stan - Orpheus you get me!!! (Meanwhile I think you could have a fucked up played for laughs absurdist comedy of errors Creek - Eros and Psyche parallel) Also, goes without saying but Randy is Agamemnon (Shelly is Iphigenia, Stan manages to straddle Electra AND Clytemnestra somehow, Sharon is Chrysothemis)

RANDY AGAMEMNON MAKING ME FEEL MILDLY INSANE RIGHT NOW .

#GOD. #stan electra and clytemnestra hi for the love of GOD HELLO #asks

[11x13kyle]

Kyle is like Sisyphus if he didn't do anything wrong. Kenny is Atlas (but also Jesus. In the sense that if you don't keep stabbing him every now and then the world explodes) Cartman is Prometheus except he had no good intentions he just thought it would be funny. Very much does have to keep having his liver (kidney lol) ripped out so South Park can function tho. Stan is Helen of Troy. This is my thesis they are all mini messiahs (who will take pity on them in this cruel cruel world?)

this is so interesting to me because my greek mythological south park take has always been kyle = antigone, cartman = oedipus (imagine oedipus and antigone aren’t from the same myth here. just walk with me okay.), kenny = sisyphus, and stan = orpheus. that being SAID. i love your mind and you understand me.

#asks

[11x13kyle]

A school bully who keeps up with intercommunity issues so that he always uses the most non-problematic terminology to insult you with

#i mean! #cartman

[11x13kyle]

let's pretend i never posted the previous one kthx

now let's wait a bit until i hate this one too and want to delete it and then myself

#style

[11x13kyle]

kenny, kyle, and stan

#thank you envy god bless #stan

[11x13kyle]

while i’m talking about things that don’t matter it also gets on my nervies when people who have Not watched south park go “lmao gay south park fans have clearly never watched the show they think it’s a wholesome yaoi and don’t know that it’s actually offensive” because they assume the show just spouts as many bigotries as they can fit in their air time. brother i hate to say it but there’s a reason this thing has gone on for 26 years and these guys have piles of awards. critically acclaimed musical The Book of Mormon is basically just a live action version of their usual shit now come on now

#i fear that the provocative and non-wholesome nature of the show is a large part of the appeal.

[11x13kyle]

#genuinely #fics

[11x13kyle]

are you jewish?? (no hate, just curious about it since you put a jewish symbol on ur bio)

yeas it’s shorter to just put that then write “jewish” and saying “jew” in bio well that’s just not classy

#asks

[11x13kyle]

i like that when you dont post for a few days and then you hust come up and post it feels like summoning bloody mary

HAH THANK YOU

#asks #testimonials

[11x13kyle]

[11x13kyle]

Not the prev anon, but I think Cartman would Gone Girl, however he'd fuck up one tiny detail and Kyle (not the target, that's probably Butters/ Liane) would figure it out and try to drag him home (not kyman, just I can see this happening in an actual episode)

cartman tries to gone girl and nobody cares that he’s gone besides liane and butters, which pisses him off beyond belief so he starts leaving clues around the town to imply that it was kyle, such as a letter written in strawberry jam meant to look like blood that says “it was kyle.” eventually he gets so mad that he shows back up to school and is like FUCK YOU GUYS KYLE KILLED ME AND YOU ASSHOLES DONT EVEN CARE and they’re just like oh hey cartman

#asks

[11x13kyle]

Would Kyle do and pull off a Gone Girl scenario (he'd be the gone girl)

this is what kyman is to me. if kyle ever wound up in that situation (unlikely!) he would absolutely fake his death and frame cartman for the murder.

#asks