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ok but can we talk about the fact that when tom was putting that damn sticker on greg's forehead, greg was just staring at tom, like looking directly into his eyes the whole time and not moving, possibly trying to actually understand and find a reason of why tom will do anything for him, just like that you know, even though he himself tends to be a piece of shit sometimes and he just can't believe that there is someone out there who will forgive him and love him for who he actually is and then boom

he smiles back because tom is smiling and he is genuine, it's not a prank, it's not a joke 'i got you' cause he was always the only one that understood his value as another human being, as a good friend and a partner but still deep down he just can't understand why, is he really worth it?

#tomgreg #succession spoilers #tom wambsgans #gregory hirsch #ok but listen #i bet greg's still processing that scene himself

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the women and the gays have won successon, oh my god it's just like eurovision

#tomgreg #succession spoilers #why did my brain come to that conclusion

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and this is how the gay agenda wins in succession, thank you everyone for coming, it was a blast, i love winning

#tomgreg married #tomshiv still married #tho i hate the fact that shiv has to suffer now #she wanted to win and now she is just the simple trophy wife #oh how the tables have turned #tomgreg #tomshiv #succession spoilers

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i can't believe that in the final of succ tom literally castrated greg, had bathroom gay sex with him and then married and took ownership of him in front of everyone, dude what in a homoerotic buisness yaoi shit is this

#tomgreg #succession spoilers #and they said we were all delusional huh #with full honesty i was so scared tom will just throw greg away #but he DIDN'T #how are they the only real relationship out there with conwilla #i thought everyone will lose but it's just the main siblings #oh wow

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i think that in the last ep they will choose tom as a ceo, why you ask?

well right now shiv is basically crossed out just because she is pregnant, roman had a mental breakdown during the funeral and kendall is not really liked by the ones that have the power to choose someone for the position (it's because he won't cooperate with anyone), so we are left with tom and greg (from like the closest to roys circle)

they will not choose greg cause he isn't in the highest ranks of the company and overall it would be a stupid idea to do so but what we know is that mattsson and greg are suddenly bestsies and i can imagine them having a dinner together (like tom and greg used to have) and mattsson will outright talk to greg about this whole thing and gregory will obviously say something along the lines 'oh tom would be great for this position actually. like he has been in atn for a long time, you know he has been running this ship for logan not such a long time ago and he will gladly lick your boots man', which is all that mattsson wants to hear. also like when the american ceo will be given to tom, greg also gets the benefits (for sure he will get like a promotion or something), cause we all know these two are like one at this point, like the fight club situation

#tomgreg #tom wambsgans #gregory hirsch #succession #succession spoilers #my last ep predictions #i hope i'm right #tbh i can't see it ending any other way #and i think they might not even tell us who will be the successor and they just do an opening ending and all to the interpretation thingy #i don't even know if i would hate or love such an ending

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theory time my dudes,

but what if greg is really a little slut who sleeps with all the man that can give him a sit next to the big table, like obviously he has been emotionally manipulating tom and making him depend on him BUT

if you noticed in the new ep matsson out there is acting a bit strange during the funeral and flirting with greg as if when they had their little party he not only made him 'dance with an old man' but he liked it and had a little fun with him too OR what if that 'old man' was matsson all along but greg wanted to make tom as jelous as possible (i mean tom was kinda neglecting him for some time, he just wanted to push the right buttons)

am i crazy or am i crazy, you decide

#succession spoilers #gregory hirsch #i am here for an evil greg agenda and i want him to succeed #tho not like ceo succeed #tomgreg

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i have never really understood my bisexuality until i realised that both tom and shiv could wreck me and i would thank them, possibly even ask for more

#tomshiv #succession #tom wambsgans #shiv roy

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i just woke up from a dream where i was watching a new succ episode, there was this one scene where greg and roman were having a conversation and roman being the funny little guy kept refering to tom as greg's 'husband' (cause you know FUNNY man and a man married it's like hilarious), greg at first gets uncomfortable and awkwardly says 'no man... what do you even mean', he just doesn't know how to properly respond but then for some reason he changes his mind and throught the whole episode he himself starts jokingly refering to tom as 'my husband' and everyone just makes disgusting faces in response (especially siblings) but greg proudly smiles to himself cause he is so funny like that, while tom hears it, face blank at first, looks like he is going to say something but never actually does, he like just moves on and it makes the whole thing even weirder and more unfunny

#tomgreg #tom wambsgans #gregory hirsch #succession #my brain is coming up with full scripts while sleeping #they should at least pay me #i really need to pay my rant and being full time tomgreger is not helping

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if greg ever tells tom that he 'likes him more than a friend' way than i want it to be the most akward moment in television history, greg is literally shivering and tom just stares at him and then starts crying uncontrollably which stresses greg out so he just stands there with his mouth opened and head empty and then they just both leave the room and never talk about it again

#tomgreg #confession #my fun predictions? #jesse if you need me for a tomgreg spinoff i can write you stuff

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absolutely devastated, it kinda looks like greg is kissing his hand

#succession spoilers #tomgreg #no but like tom freaks out and greg just comes up to tom #takes his hand and kisses it while saying 'it's fine tom... i am right here' #and then tom makes a funny face and starts ugly crying #and then i scream #this last ep made me so delusional i might lose my sanity soon

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that tomshiv balcony scene was the best thing that could have happened to succession since logan died, shiv i love you girl, live your best life and raise the kid alone, hell yeah tom stand up for yourself and get that power that you want your way

#tomgreg #tomshiv #succession spoilers

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how is it living your best life when you already knew that tom actually does love shiv and that is why he married her and agreed to be treated the way he was even though it hurt him all the way and it wasn't only the money and the power, idk man it feels great if i must be honest with you

#tomgreg #succession spoilers

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people saying that if you think that tomgreg are queer in any way you just 'read the show wrong', oh ok i didn't know there is only one way of reading a show cause all of humanity shares one single braincell together

#tomgreg #succession #can a gay enjoy any show at this point

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hi, so i've become a tomgreg enthusiast just before the fourth season aired (i basically devoured the whole three seasons of succ in four days lmao). i don't really engage in social media and fandoms anymore but i would like to share my thoughts on the tomgreg relationship and the final season itself.

i would like to start with the fact that i was actually really surprised how explicit their relationship was in the first three seasons (in a way it still really is, but we'll get to that), since from what i knew about the show it was supposed to be something perfect for your 'normal' media consumer out there, just some business stuff, so with that logic i assumed it will be as heterosexual as it can get to not offend anyone (i mean homophobes). but the second tom and greg were together on the screen my brain materialised the 'i know what you are' dog meme and i loved it. it didn't feel superficial, it was something different, fresh and ugly and toxic and just real. seeing these two just be horrible to everyone (including each other) made sense and then seeing them finally lower their gourds down and care for only each other also made sense. so my main point is that it made a lot of sense for them to go with the dynamic and to just make it the way it is. i believe wholeheartedly that it is a genuine representation that i so desperately wanted, since i'm so done with all that 'gay ppl can't be horrible pieces of shit and have to be unnaturally perfect and good'. 

it isn’t as explicit as other queer relationships in media but that’s kinda what makes them so unique and fun to watch. they don’t have to kiss or to say ‘i love you’, cause we already have that confirmation through how they act towards each other. from ‘would you kiss me?’ first interaction to the ‘i will take care of you’ declaration, like he really didn’t have to do it, i believe he might have just been lonely in the roy kingdom and greg was the same, not in the inner circle but still a part of the family. that was the reason why he was so attracted to greg from the beginning. the nero and sporus speech, when tom decides to pour his whole heart into that speech and greg just responds with nothing, so tom awkwardly drops his smile, cause he thinks that he might be the only one that feels that way. (it was so fun to me cause for some reason i love to see tom suffer, idk why don’t ask me). but then greg immediately asks if tom is okay, cause he does care about tom and maybe he is just super oblivious to tom’s feelings at that point. in the fourth season greg allows tom to throw him under the bus during social interactions just for him to look better. he also is okay with tom treating him like shit throughout the whole show, even though he could have just leave him and try to suck up to his family more (as we can see in this season it is actually possible for greg to somehow have a working relationship with his cousins). i could give you so many more examples but we all get the point. it is not sexually explicit and it doesn’t have to, queer relationships are not only about sex or physical intimacy in general (though we still get all that patting on the back, stomach, shoulders ect., even all that whatever it was in the first ep from greg), it’s the emotional connection too. and we did get that. 

if it comes to the fourth season, i must admit that i agree with a lot of criticism. the characters feel really off to me. and i will focus on greg for a bit. this season he is suddenly gross and says stupid things, like he is a total imbecile that can’t think for himself (like i get it, he was always a little dumb dumb and ofc he can say gross things, it’s just that these are his only character trades right now, that’s the problem). he is definitely not qualified enough to be in a position that he is now but the greg from the second or third season would at least try to pinch some of his own ideas (even tho they are shitty) or maybe try to give his honest opinion on something, now he just goes ‘yeah it’s dope man’ and moves on. if it comes to tom i would say he is handled quite well, it might be because macfadyen is an absolute acting genius, but him being a total flop and trying so desperately to be on a good page with all the people that he betrayed makes sense. he is scared he is soon going to lose everything and it makes him do everything in his power to not let that happen, he is a total mess emotionally (and we love to see it). that includes coming back to shiv. even though he stood up for himself and i really wish he could just leave her and finally be happy alone, he has to be the a good and obedient husband once again, that’s his only way of saving himself. he says that he loves shiv for the money but i think there is also an actual unconditional love there, it’s just not a thing that she will understand, so he must speak in another language - a love for money and power. she then gets it and lets him in. but then you can see in a way that tom looks at her, that there is something more to it than the prestige of being married to a roy. 

and now the tomgreg relationship. we don’t see many scenes of them and yes it hurts a bit, since you wait a whole ass week for an episode and you don’t get much of their interactions but i saw someone saying that ‘they don’t need to show us tom and greg plotting together, cause we already know that. they focus on the dynamics of the relationships that are currently changing and tomgreg is as solid as a rock’ (obviously paraphrasing that one). i so agree with that, we don’t have to see them to know, it would be amazing to get more confirmation and just to see them both be all giggly middle aged men together but we already know where we stand. they have the deal, they work together behind the scenes, i bet that is exactly why in the sixth episode they went to an empty room, so that they can update each other on their secrety and confidential stuff. and why is greg gregging for ken and tom is suffocating himself in a toxic relationship with shiv? it’s simple, because it’s their plan to do so. they hope that at least one of the relationships will stick and save them from their doom. they will jump ships to whoever will be willing to not throw them away. this way it makes sense for us not to see them all that often together because we see them executing their plan, separately on camera but actually together. i hope that this will be addressed in the last four eps, it would be actually kinda fun to see maybe one of them or even both of them betray each other for their new friends/lovers to just be betrayed themselves and end up together anyway. it's what they deserve.

#tomgreg #just some thoughts #succession #i still love the show and i will watch it till the end