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Colourful beauty at the Vaisakhi Sikh festival.

Manchester, UK

30.04.17

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An Easter service in Karachi, Pakistan. (Photographer: Fareed Khan - Associated Press)

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If you struggle with vanity, yes, maybe you should be sticking to neutral colors. I actually recognized a bit of it myself and went strictly purple or black for Lent one year (and it was surprisingly eye opening).

Why is it completely appropriate then for a woman to wear her “Sunday best” to Mass with dresses that have designs and colors on them as they present themselves to God... but not an equally lovely veil?

You’re right, you don’t go to church for other people to see you, you go for God. You dress up for Him, right? The veil is part of that. Putting it on should give you joy if you so choose to wear it!

I once saw a woman at a Latin Mass wearing an R2D2 veil. Great! I own a super Mario scarf that I used as a veil a couple of times. Super! Relax guys!

Tbh if you’re going to veil at Mass I don’t think you should be wearing a veil that’s tons of colors or colored designs. It isn’t a fashion statement, you’re covering your head in the presence of God.

Getting a colorful one for a kid makes sense but imo a grown adult should stick to white or black.

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What is your opinion on non-Muslims veiling or wearing Islamic clothes like abaya/jilbab?

Salaam,

So, Im going to try to avoid making this a super lengthy post. As far as veiling goes, it is not an exclusively Muslim tradition. I would argue that you can find veiling in most major world religions, and even just in many cultures regardless of religion. 

Women veil in Islam differently and for different reasons. Some women believe it is a commandment from Allah (swt), others believe its purpose is to guard our modesty, and for others hijab is a form of empowerment or decolonization. For some women it is a mix of all of these. And contrary to what people want to hear, sometimes hijab is cultural and not religious at all. I’ve met women who still wear hijab, but never pray and don’t consider themselves super religious. But, because their families veil, they decide to continue to do so as a cultural tradition. I even knew a Syrian Christian who’s family practiced veiling in an Islamic way. 

Following this, I personally think it’s okay for non-Muslims to wear Islamic clothes/veiling, but to an extent. Anyone can search for modesty among these traditions, as modesty is something men and women can strive for. For example, I’ve even seen Traditional Catholics search for outfit ideas among Muslim women. However, there is a certain knowledge requirement I would think is necessary to veil specifically with hijab/abaya/jilbab. I know that there is a lot of discourse now surrounding like, white neopagans who end up “veiling” in a fashion that looks extremely similar to Muslim women but don’t like to be connected to Islam, and thats where the problem comes. 

If you decide to veil in an Islamic fashion (specifically wearing hijab, abaya, niqab, jilbab, and so on) you MUST educate yourself about Islam. There is no doubt that you will be mistaken for being Muslim, and whether you like it or not, you will become a representative of Islam for the masses by associating with us so visibly. It is fundamentally irresponsible for a non-Muslim, veiling in a clearly Islamic fashion, to know nothing about the religion. Even learning “Assalamu alaikum/Walaikum assalam” is the bare minimum of respecting Muslim culture and the Muslims who will see you and assume that you share the same faith. By putting on hijab/jilbab and so on, we put ourselves more at risk by visibly declaring “We Are Muslim”. For people in very conservative and white areas like me, that can become a safety concern. Because of that, a non-Muslim searching for modesty in the terms of Islamic dress is fundamentally required to be knowledgeable about the image they are then portraying to the world.

I also think intent matters a lot. Are you veiling because you are called to that form of modesty? Or are you veiling because you like the aesthetic? If it’s just about the aesthetic, I wouldn’t agree there. 

I hope this makes sense? Again, I am not a scholar of Islam. And I’m sure that there are Muslims who would argue that like, neopagans wearing hijab at all is cultural appropriation..... So this is just my personal opinion.

EDIT: Also just to clarify I am NOT okay with nor do I approve of people who wear Islamic veiling and combine it with sexual fetishes/fantasies/weird narratives of being an oppressed and helpless submissive to some big scary Muslim man. In no way shape or form is that acceptable in my eyes, I find it repulsive and offensive. It infuriates me, sorry. Im all for people having their kinks BUT NOT when it’s getting off to this sick narrative surrounding all the stereotypes about Islam. 

Blessings

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RECEIPT VEIL

...holy shit.

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Women in niqab practicing archery is the realest aesthetic of them all.

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YO I MAKE VEILS HMU

Hey, I see you talking about veils and stuff a lot, I'm interested in it and was wondering what kind of veil and where you get them? Thanks!

Hey anon! 

So I am an infrequent veiler, since no one else does it at the Mass I attend my anxiety just goes a little nuts. I had this veil from Evintage and love it but... I lost it and cannot find it anywhere it’s kind of driving me insane. 

FYI my posts relating to veiling will probably be in relation to getting over my own personal anxiety, not really dealing with the reasons for veiling or “veiling inspo” if you will

Evintage veils has many more styles of veils, Veils by Lily is another site I don’t own a veil from them but I know someone who did and the one she had was lovely.

Of course you don’t have to wear a veil other people will wear bandanas, hats, snoods, etc.

I recomend checking out @paula-of-christ and @veiled-threat they will have a lot more information than I do. (any other blogs with info on veiling please let me know)

And here are just some articles with information on why Catholic women veil:

Why Do Catholics Wear Chapel Veils?

The Theology of the Veil

Why Women Wear Chapel Veils – And Should You Too?

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Thanks!! If you want a custom, dm me!

@patron-saint-of-smartasses I wore The Veil™ to Mass today to celebrate Christ the King. ❤️

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HEY I MADE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

@patron-saint-of-smartasses I wore The Veil™ to Mass today to celebrate Christ the King. ❤️

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You’re correct, but for the sake of information I wanted to let OP explain themselves

oh that’s awesome to hear with your husband veiling !! may i ask, what kind of material does he veil with and what styles does he wear?? thank you for sharing !! 👏🏼🧘🏼‍♂️

hey!!

He likes cloth/crochet zucchetto type beanies and prayer cloths/mantles similar to mantillas, we also share headbands and headscarves since we have similar taste, he uses color correspondences for his practice but it depends on his mood too

thank you for the question!!

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Some of my newest veils

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Assyrians singing at Christmas mass in Baghdad, Iraq. (Credit: Thaier al-Sudani - Reuters)

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How is the practice of catholic veiling in your country?

In my place it is still associated with traditionalism. In that way, the re-adoption of catholic veiling is not accepted by many priests and people.

The simple fact of being a type of devotion is not perceived by the major population of the country, making it more difficult for women who want to start veiling to feel in a deep way this spiritual practice.

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In Baghdad, a Muslim woman (in black hair covering and holding a copy of the Quran) stands in solidarity with a Christian woman (in white hair covering and holding a copy of the Bible), to show solidarity with the dwindling number of Iraqi Christians and their right to live freely and peacefully side-by-side with their Muslim sisters and brothers.

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I made a thing!!