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ts-caymanislands · 6 years

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Closing Statements

First, I'd like to address a few things.

1. Yes, receiving 10 votes may mean to some that I maybe didnt make as good as connections? In my opinion, maybe not receiving many votes people never perceived you as a threat? Yes, you can claim you were socially connected and whatever, but maybe it was just no one wanted you out bc most people felt like they could be you in the end including myself? And for that reason you had great social connections bc no one saw you as a threat so wanted to work with you? Yes, I did survive some very close calls but I don't think it was because I wasn't connected or socially "lacking." In my opinion, thats just an excuse.

2. Yes, I did initially want at least either ahrre or vilma at f5. However, as nick claims, I dont think he was the one to directly screw that over and really control those. After the mess of the nolan vote, I knew vilma had completely lost all trust in me. The reason I mainly wanted to keep ahrre or vilma in that I didnt tell them, is I knew down the line if I needed to turn on nick or tj I felt like i could work with those two much more over bryce and alex. After the nolan vote and she really started coming for me immediately, I knew that wasn't going to happen with her. Additionally, ahrre won 3 immunities, which nick cant control. I'm not dumb enough to let a comp beast make it close to the end as a shield. So, yeah I in my mind it was obviously worth the risk to take him out, instead of letting him get the chance to win more immunity. So, yeah even though I initially wanted to keep him in as strategic/social shield, that DOESNT mean I'm not allowed to change my mind because the circumstances change and him claim it was always him convincing me like he "claimed" with the nolan vote, as I do think he's exaggerating for a lot of moves he cant take full credit for. Finally, I'd just like to thank you all for the amazing experience of my first org, its been a blast. I do think in the majority of votes I was a major contributor. I also am very proud of the way I played no matter what others think. I think receiving 10 votes is a sign that I never gave up and fought to get to the end. I tried to make it as clear as possible to why I should win this game (apologies for I'm a horrible writer). This has been one of the most fun games I have ever played in my years playing online games, and thank you all for making is so. Also, thanks to the hosts for putting it together as the did an AMAZING job as I loved all the twists, challenges, etc...See you guys on the other side!

I honestly believe that I deserve to be the next sole survivor. I played this game hard the entire way through and did a lot of damage every week. I had a lot of influence and say over every vote from Final 8 to Final 3 and although this might be a bit douchey to say, I believe Daniel over exaggerated what he did. When he was ready to flip at Final 8, he told me and TJ that he only wanted to do it if we were able to keep Ahrre or Vilma until Final 5 since he wanted a shield. And so, what did I do? I convinced everyone to take them out before then. Here’s the brief rundown of how that went: Without Bryce’s vote at F8, we could not have gotten Nolan out. I did for us. At final 7, Daniel wanted to vote Bryce because he thought Vilma would use an idol and he would go. I convinced him to keep his vote the same and we powered through to get Vilma out. At final 6, Daniel wasn’t even around cause he was in the mountains. So, I came up with the idea of splitting votes to get Ahrre out and Me and TJ formed that together. At final 5, while Daniel was telling Bryce that me and TJ were a duo and that he wanted to “flush my idol”. Bryce was relaying all that information to me and me and Bryce decided that it was better to let TJ go. And so while Daniel thinks he sneakily came up with a plan that worked, I actually was wanting TJ to leave that week and THAT’S why I didn’t use the idol on him. I also voted Alex that round in case TJ had an idol himself AND I wanted to just not be a dick to TJ (which is the only 2 reasons I voted in minority that round despite knowing what was happening). At final 4, I told Daniel that I wasn’t going to vote Bryce. That’s why we decided to vote Kiler. And Bryce didn’t flip because he wanted Daniel to stay... Their connection was just so bad (retweet to when I said I was the one who brought all my allies together) that he believed Daniel and Kiler might actually be trying to get us to split votes. All in all, I believe that my social and strategic game were strong and gave me the ability to take out all the people I wanted, to keep all of my allies safe, and to ensure I was never in danger if the wrong person played an idol. And for these reasons I hope you vote for me to be your winner.

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ts-caymanislands · 6 years

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Bryce’s Jury Question

1. What was your favorite moment of the game?

2. What was the round that you felt least safe in and how did you guarantee you stayed?

1. My favorite moment of the game was honestly probably meeting everyone for the first time and making those connections with people.

The moment I won immunity for the first time ever was also very nice, in addition to barely surviving by one vote pre merge.

2. I felt very safe the round that Nolan and joey went home. I felt like my name wasn’t out there, and I knew exactly what the outcome would be, even if an idol was played I was still safe.

1). Honestly, my favorite moment was probably when you told me about how your alliance with Ahrre/Vilma/Daniel/Elsa was a thing. Because I was SCREECHING that literally every single person in the game was in a different alliance. It’s so rare for that to happen and I was shook. But was also extremely happy because you telling me about it solidified how close we were and I knew me and you would be able to play both of the alliances against each other. And honestly, that’s always been a dream of mine but it rarely is possible in games because people flip so easily and the lines are always much less defined.

2). I think the vote I felt least safe was the Ahrre vote. Not knowing who the jury would vote for was so nerve wracking. I think it was too difficult (and too risky for me to continuously push) to get Daniel, TJ, and Kiler not to vote you. We didn’t really know what Ahrre was doing and I knew you were idoling. So if Ahrre won the immunity, there was a chance Ahrre could’ve voted me and the vote would’ve been between me and Daniel. And that was the scariest situation for me. I wanted the idol for F5, but also wanted to stay safe. So there was a lot of dilemma for me between using the idol if Ahrre used one and if I didn’t would I have the votes to stay? It was truly a test of how much I trusted people to keep me over Daniel if that’s what happened

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ts-caymanislands · 6 years

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Alex’s Jury Question

ik my question is generic but its Why do you deserve my vote over the other

I do believe I had to work harder and fight to stay here, since I did receive a lot more votes than nick and was targeted more often. He might be able to say he was a good social player, but maybe this was also due to the fact he wasn’t really seen as a threat early on? Also, I can claim a huge move flipping on an alliance of four with you, nick, and tj where as he was already in that position and wasn’t really taking that many risks as I was.

I think I deserve to win over Daniel because I had connections that Daniel simply didn’t. Yes, Daniel did his own connections to Ahrre and Vilma, that I didn’t. BUT my connections with Bryce and TJ lasted much longer, kept me from getting votes (while Daniel received 10 votes), and were a major reason that certain people left the game. For the Nolan vote, Bryce’s vote was needed. I secured that, not Daniel. For the Vilma vote, Daniel wanted us to vote Bryce out (because he was scared of Vilma using the idol). But I got him to vote out Vilma AND got Vilma not to use the idol. During the Ahrre vote, Daniel wasn’t really there and Daniel received enough votes to actually leave the game had Ahrre won immunity (which we all expected to happen). So really, Daniel could’ve easily gone there and only got lucky that the jury didn’t give Ahrre safety. Your vote was not influenced by Daniel at all. And the only reason he stayed safe is because of Bryce got paranoid (and because I wanted to get you out for reasons explained in my response to Lexi). So yes, while Daniel voted correctly in the end each and every round, I believe I was the one who influenced the votes AND never put myself in the position where I could leave in the event of a tie or the wrong person playing the idol. While Daniel on the other hand, could have left at any point and really got lucky that Ahrre and Vilma just didn’t have idols.

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ts-caymanislands · 6 years

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TJ’s Jury Question

Alright, well first, congrats to your both on getting here. I tried warning several people along the way that you two were close, and I could never get the move across that I wanted so well done to you both there.

Now both of you played great social games, but I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that you both can claim that you have played the best social games when both Ahrre and myself were deemed the biggest social/jury threats and had to go. So here are my two questions to both of you to hopefully help me differentiate your two games and understand why one of us jurors are not more robbed:

1. How do you think the tribe swaps helped you maneuver through this merge?

2. What was your move? What was that one move that the other cannot claim any credit for and why you should get my vote as the Sole Survivor?

1. The tribes swap helped me form a some type of relationship with almost every single player. When we merged the only person I didn’t know was joey.

2. I do think my move that nick can’t claim to was flipping and voting Nolan. For two reasons. One, he was already against him and he wasn’t the one taking a risk aligning himself who has voted him out previously. 2. I do think I was more of a driving force since I was the one to message him, and create the alliance between us three. He wasn’t in my ear trying to convince me to do it

1). I addressed this kind of in my response to Ahrre. I think being on 3 tribes premerge really put me in a weird spot because coming into merge, There were 3 people I never had the chance to communicate with. BUT during those swaps, I was able to create my really really close allegiances with Bryce and Daniel. THEN got super close to you as well. Hell, when we swapped for the first time, we were literally in 2 different alliances with each other and then swapped together again with Daniel and Kiler. So coming into merge, I had you, Bryce, and Daniel as really close allies and had the 6 person alliance based on our 2nd swap. That gave me the ability to get through the first few votes at merge and really put me in a good position. It also allowed me to have connections with people who were on the other side, keeping me safe from their vote and who would later flip to our side and help me get to the end. So if your kind of sussing out how our premerge affected our merge games, you can see that all the connections I made before merge were strong and lasted so far into merge, that the 3 people I was closest to before merge, made it to final 5 with me (AND were actually still voting with me and keeping me safe), showing that my pre merge relationships were strong and helpful.

2). If we’re just comparing it between me and Daniel, Nolan, Vilma, Ahrre, and Kiler were all my moves. I’m not gonna steal full credit from Daniel on them. His vote was needed in the Nolan vote and the Kiler vote. But I definitely made each of the votes happen. (I’ve explained these votes a lot so I’ll make this one a little shorter. But if it’s not a sufficient explanation, look at my answer to Joey). When Nolan left, Daniel was 100% down with it and we definitely needed each other’s votes for it to happen. BUT, we also needed Bryce and Kiler to do it. Me/You/Daniel all tried to get Kiler to do it. But I ended up getting Bryce. If you go look at that week in our team Zwooper chat, you’ll see that I was the one who kept saying I think we had Bryce while Daniel kept saying he didn’t talk to Bryce and was questioning if we could trust him to vote with us. It wasn’t until 2 hrs before the vote that Daniel was sure we had Bryce (and that happened after me and Bryce talked about voting Nolan). So I definitely think I was the one who got that completely together even though it did start as a group effort.

The entire Vilma vote Daniel was paranoid af that he’d leave and that Vilma was using an idol. I went to Vilma and convinced her that I was voting Daniel and was the person who got you and Daniel to vote her out instead of Bryce. If it wasn’t for me, Bryce would’ve gone that week. (Again, all of this is in the Team Zwooper chat)

Daniel wasn’t really around for the Ahrre vote. Me and You brought that up to him and Kiler. Not the other way around.

And then when Kiler left, Daniel was actually wanting to vote Bryce. I disagreed with this (for reasons explained in Lexi’s answers). And definitely didn’t want it to tie 2-2 on Bryce and Daniel. Cause if Daniel lost that, Bryce wouldn’t trust me next round. So I told him I wanted to vote Kiler. So he simply had to do that. And he didn’t do anything to get Bryce to flip his vote. So he didn’t have any control over that.

I apologize if this came off as cocky or something. I’m rushing this cause I’ve wrote a lot before and know you were present for these situations so you don’t really need ALL this detail. I do believe that Daniel was a massive help in everything and that without his vote, it would’ve been really hard to get here. However, I think I should get your vote as the sole survivor because I truly had a lot of influence over each and every vote. I was very proactive in pushing names and ensuring we got the votes. I kept myself safe and made sure that every person who would keep me safe would stay in the game longer. And while Daniel and I voted the same way for most rounds, I personally believe I had more control over who left, keeping me safe and keeping other people as threats in front of me.

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ts-caymanislands · 6 years

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Ahrre’s Jury Question

Alright hello lads and congrats on making it til the end. I'm bad with introductions so let's jump in.

First off thank you both for having good speeches and not the usual parade of fancy words with all the substance of a water soup or the "I was this omnipresent being literally jesus and masterminded the game" kinda overselling bs.

Also thank you for not talking the goat to the end, idk if it was the best move but at least it makes for a fun FTC and an adequate ending to what I see as a pretty good season.

Now Daniel I'll start with you since I read your speech first.

To start with I respect how willing you were to work with anyone, including TJ who from what I heard used to be some rocky stuff between you two before the game. This willingness also shows in you decision to flip on the bois and I think it was the correct one given your position since you weren't in a winning position within it. However that raises my first question.

Doesn't it say something about your game being weaker if at that point Vilma and I had bigger chances of winning over you? When we all had the same opportunities to play the game? In other words why were you at the bottom in terms of "winning merit" in that alliance instead of at the top and how is that not a bad thing?

Secondly you did mention you had Nick giving you a heads up during the Elsa vote as to what was going to happen, does this mean you: A. Knew the vote wasn't gonna go your way and decided to just sit there and watch Elsa go, why? or B. You weren't actually told about everything that was going on. Or is there something else I'm missing?

Now the here's the main weak point I see in you as a player, and that is that you're simply a bad liar or at least you were during this game, which in a game about deception you would think it's a pretty big deal.

Starting with the Nolan vote for some reason you made the decision to not show up in the bois alliance chat during the entirety of that week, did you honestly expected that something like that wouldn't raise a flag? Truth is it was obvious you were flipping which is bad if you're trying to blindside someone I would say....The only reason why I didn't do anything about it like tell Nolan or something is bc I wanted him out and was only voting Alex in case he played an idol. Maybe if you bothered to read the situation you would've realized that and spared yourself from having to awkwardly "leave someone in the dark" and no Vilma was not super close to Nolan, if you payed attention to what was going on it was pretty easy to tell she wouldn't throw the alliance under the bus just for him. So that's no excuse for not bothering.

Now this leads us the most unnecessary and mind baffling part where you told Vilma you had screenshots of Nolan throwing your and my name around. Which was not only not true but screenshots were also against the rules and your blunder got tribal delayed lol

AND THEN you told me you never talked to her about voting Nolan. Fully knowing she was probably the one that let me know and we were close so it would be your word against hers.

And yet you did it basically killing your chances of ever being seen as trustworthy against.

Why? Lmao, like what even was the benefit of such an insignificant lie?

Then when you said you were voting Alex at F7 when it was obvious no one in his right mind would do that considering all the threats that were around, like you weren't even trying.

And then you basically did it again with Bryce too at F6 never messaging anyone and simply saying alex when asked (and no being in the mountains is no excuse, plus you did the same the past two votes) and all this lack of care or knowledge about how to lie almost got you voted out and can still cost you the game.

So my final question for you is why such a shitshow in that regard?

Alright so now with Nick

Honestly I can't say as much about your game since after we swapped for the first time we weren't on the same side. But I think it was that time we were apart is what set us up against each other come merge, since none of our allies really overlapped plus it had been a while since we were last together

And this is why I find the lack of premerge goods on your speech disturbing. So you said you had alliances with everyone else outside of the bois when merge hit.

So tell me how did each of those alliances came to be, when and who was in each?

Back to the merge I do believe however I made an effort to reconnect, maybe not the biggest but communication is a two way street bud plus at least I have the excuse of playing two other orgs at the same time.

Additionally TJ did connect with me better witch really makes you wonder why that was the case with him as opposed to you.

So now you tell me your theory, why do you think that was?

Additionally I want to ask you, Did you knew about the split vote idea during the Elsa vote? How?

Anyhow some flips and flops later and it's F6

So ofc the idea to split votes between me and someone else is the way to go. Yet for some goddamn reason I cannot wrap my head around you decided the other half of the votes were gonna go Bryce's way who was your ally, forcing him to play his idol.

So why on Earth didn't you make the split between me and Daniel instead of me and Bryce?

Since if I was Bryce I would be like excuse me what the fuck and you're costing yourself an idol that can come in handy next vote and most importantly Bryce's potential loyalty. Hell you said at F3 either guy was taking you to the end but I'm not so sure Bryce would've.

Which leads me to my final question:

Between Daniel and Bryce who would've you taken of you had won that final immunity?

Anyhow Nick and Daniel, that's gonna be it for me sorry if I made this a bit too long but oh well that's what she said? Looking forward to your answers and good luck!

First off yes, like you said yes you and Vilma were bigger threats. In my opinion this was due to the fact you were did have more of a driving force pre-merge, which I explained that I wanted. I never wanted an early target painted on my back once merge hit from all of the premerge business, so I let you and her take the credit. I feel like I was one of the driving forces come merge, but if I would have been premerge as well, my fate would have ended up exactly like yours. So this was an actual strategy not me lacking skills.

Now about the elsa vote, yes nick did tell me he thought that I wasn’t getting any votes. Then I went to you in pms hinting that nick said the votes were swinging towards Elsa on their side. Also, I didn’t want to get blamed for leaking nicks words and have blowback in later rounds from someone like nick or tj Bc I foresaw needing to work with them.

Ok yes, I know what happened at with the Nolan vote was messy, let me clear it up. So yes, I had planned on flipping this round.

Screenshots: Ok so, yes I did tell vilma I got screenshots from nick. I admit, I kind of exaggerated, BUT I wanted to get my point across and I didn’t realize screenshots were not acceptable. SO, nick actually did come to me saying nolan was throwing out your and my name. Additionally, he said he’d provide “proof” if I needed it. I never meant to lie about the part where nolan said certain things because I honestly believed them to be true and had a lot of evidence to support it, it didn’t come out of thin air. I went a little to far with the “screenshot” part to get my point across but he did offer me proof.

Ok I think there is confusion about me going to vilma. I did NOT go to her telling her about the Nolan vote until two minutes before day change when votes were about to be read because I knew nothing could change that quickly and wanted give her a heads up. I never went to her to try and flip her, just to let her know. When I told you I messaged her at tribal I meant that it was literally so close to tribal it had no effect on the game. I knew you and her were close, so why would I have reason to lie?

And yes I never messaged in that alliance. I felt like if I chose to be fake and tell an outright it would totally cut all connections. So I thought it better to not say anything and give an explanation after. Yes, you could have gone to nolan, but with him not being in the alliance and playing both sides I thought there was a high probability against it. I get that this is a game of lying, but some lies are unnecessary and I didn’t feel like I needed to. So between those three things I never meant for them to be major lies and have it appear as such a shitshow.

At final 7, yeah that was a little messy. I knew you had lost all trust in me after all of that. I just threw out Alex because I knew he was an easy target and no one could really throw me under the bus when using a name like that. If I had said tj, then that could have been used against me and forced them to lose trust in me.

I never meant for that shitshow to happen and truly believe it was a major misunderstanding, and some poor explaining on my end. I truthfully thought some of those things weren’t lies, beyyou are right, it would make absolutely no sense for me to do that.

At final 6, I understand if you don’t believe me, but I truly had no cell service. I have pictures of me trying to message my host chat without service and of all the animals i saw including bear, deer, and coyotes. I hope this clears everything up

I read your question once through, but it’s a lot. So I’m gonna go over it again and respond to each thing in order. So sorry if it feels a bit all over the place.

1) So premerge we obviously had our Lagarto alliance. During this time, I really built strong relationships with Daniel and Bryce. I knew Daniel from outside of this game so I came in knowing I wanted to work with him. But we had actually never played together before so I still had to feel it out and make it clear to him that I REALLY wanted to play the game. Me and Bryce also just hit it off really well. I found him extremely funny and enjoyable and really worked to build that bond up socially. BUT then we swapped. And the only person I was the same from Lagarto was Kailyn…. (who was pretty much inactive). HOWEVER, I ended up bonding with Nolan and TJ extraordinarily well. Nolan was obviously very smart and into the game and I just loved his attitude. Then, TJ and I simply just think the same way with everything. Me and TJ actually made an alliance with Jacob and then later, Nolan asked us for an alliance and we created one with us 3 and Kiler. Joey was also on this tribe, partially on the outs, but I got good vibes from him so I also kept him informed on the votes and my alliances made sure he voted with us. THEN we get yet another tribe swap. And this time, Daniel and Kiler chose to bring me and TJ to their tribe (on Pirata). Clearly they BOTH thought they could trust my vote and they both thought I was an asset to their game. But this also prevented me from meeting new people.

So, When we merged, the alliance between me/Kiler/TJ/Nolan stayed in tact and because we worked well with Joey and because the others worked well with Lexi during their swaps with her, we all came together to create a group of 6 (and ended up voting out Elsa). YET, outside of this 6, my early bonds with Daniel and Bryce held up, and they told me what was going on outside of my group. To the point where as soon as we merged Bryce told me that you/Vilma/Daniel/Elsa had a group as well. And so not only did I come into merge being close with TJ, Daniel, Bryce, Joey, Nolan, and Kiler, I ended up in an alliance with Lexi (someone I didn’t talk to before merge due to us not being on the same tribe), and my alliance instantly decided to target Elsa someone else I didn’t talk to.

And if all of that is hard to believe, Look at the first competition in which, I made it to the final 2 in a competition where everyone was able to take out someone they didn’t want to win.

2) You’re right. looking back at our messages, we did actually attempt to reconnect with each other so I apologize for that. I feel like our lack of communication later in the game made me feel like there wasn’t much at merge. But I do think we both gave it a shot. But because I knew about your alliance, knew you were a duo with Vilma, knew you and Vilma were AMAZING at competitions, and simply had other allies, it was hard to think that we’d ever work together. Like, we did attempt to talk about votes early on too. But I knew you were bullshitting me the whole time and that made it so much harder to trust you. For example, I DID know about the Split vote plan to save Elsa and get rid of Joey because Bryce told me about it. So while I continued to be real with you and let you know I was voting Elsa, you kept telling me lies and so I knew you weren’t actually trying to work with me. You were just trying to get your vote through. So after a few rounds of this, I knew that we were simply against each other.

And as you said TJ was able to connect more with you. But (1) he didn’t really have the same connections I had, so he needed to (i.e. he didn’t have Bryce and he thought Daniel was closer to me so he went for you instead). and (2) Because I knew everything you were doing (since Bryce let me in on it), I knew that it’d be VERY unlikely I’d have your vote and instead relied on keeping Daniel’s and Bryce’s instead.

3) Like you said, splitting was obvious. But who do I split it on? Bryce is super loyal to me. Daniel’s loyal to me. TJ is loyal to me. So with all those allies, the only 2 people I want to leave are you and Kiler.

But at this point in the game, Daniel and TJ did not have much trust in Bryce. They both consistently questioned if we had his vote, and when F6 started, Kiler was pushing to vote out Bryce. So… if you look at it from Tj and Daniel’s perspective, you’ll see that they think we have 3 votes and just need a 4th to split it. They don’t trust Bryce (since Bryce actually lied to Daniel about voting Vilma and TJ and Bryce just didn’t talk much) and comparatively Bryce was OBVIOUSLY a bigger target than Alex ever was. So for them, knowing Alex wanted to vote Bryce anyways, they thought they for sure they had 4 votes and that we would be getting either the biggest threat, you, OR the second biggest threat, Bryce out that round (outside of ourselves, ofc)

Thus, when I finally convinced them to split in general (because you were claiming you were randomizing your vote, weren’t talking to me despite needing votes, and being very vague with Bryce and Daniel from what I heard so I couldn’t split it with you), I was assigned to vote you and not Bryce. So if I were to say ANYTHING else, they’d definitely question my loyalty and realize just how close me and Bryce were.

Since I knew that Bryce had the idol, I had no reason to risk them questioning my loyalty. Instead, I told Bryce they were after him. I explained that they assigned me vote you so unless he was certain he had you (which he never was), I couldn’t do anything to help him avoid a tie.

Additionally, I had an idol and assumed TJ wouldn’t vote me at final 5 anyways. So I knew that I needed to at least try to get you out (even if you did tell Bryce you were voting with him). Why? Well, you easily could’ve won your way to the end. BUT I also knew that I could use the idol to save me AND Bryce the next round. If you and Kiler decided to vote me, we knew TJ likely wouldn’t. So I could Idol myself and me and Bryce could just vote out one of you guys (since our 2 votes beats TJ’s one). OR if you, TJ, and Kiler wanted to vote Bryce, we could use the idol on Bryce, and me and him could vote out someone else there as well. So either way, we were both likely safe.

And since Bryce gave me the idol, I think he truly understood all of that (and since we didn’t know what you were doing, he never had a reason to question my loyalty since me flipping my vote didn’t help him any)

4). Honestly, going into it I wasn’t sure who I’d take. Bryce was easily my closest ally throughout the whole game. But I also knew that Daniel would never have voted me out because we knew each other outside of the game. So either way, I was gonna be a massive dick to someone. I honestly believed I had a chance to beat either. They both flipped at the same time and they both voted with me each round. When Daniel flipped he legitimately asked for you and/or Vilma to make Final 5. And I purposely took out you and Vilma because of that (and because you guys were threats in general). So, I knew I was had more control over the game than he did (and always knew more than he did because with the information me and Bryce shared with each other, no on win the game was able to do anything against us without the other one finding out). I also had MUCH closer connections than he did with people. Because TJ, Bryce, Kiler were all willing to get rid of him at any point. While, TJ and Bryce were not willing to get rid of me. On the other hand, Bryce literally gave me an idol and voted with Daniel and TJ even though they didn’t trust him. Due to his trust with me, he literally put himself in a position where people wanted him out (i.e. F7 and F6). So I think without me convincing Daniel and TJ to vote out Vilma and you instead (or me warning Bryce to use the idol), he would have been in massive trouble.

Long story short, I wasn’t sure. I knew Daniel personally outside of the game, and was in another Org with Bryce (where I could win $100). So, I can’t tell you I knew exactly what I was gonna do since I was never put into that position. But, I think I would’ve brought Daniel. Because I knew that he didn’t really have that much control over the votes, that I literally created his worst nightmare at F5 (i.e. him not having a shield), and because I think Bryce had better connections with the jurors that I wasn’t really ever close to (i.e. You, Vilma, Elsa) so it was more likely for Bryce to get those votes than Daniel

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ts-caymanislands · 6 years

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Vilma’s Jury Question

Hi Daniel and Nick!

First of all, congrats on making the final tribal council guys. I think both of you have totally deserved your spot here (although I admit I was secretly rooting for Bryce ever since we hit the merge, RIP) and whoever takes the crown is going to have my full support.

Nick and I were never on the same tribe pre-merge, so unfortunately we didn’t really have a chance to work together at any point in the game. But I enjoyed the couple chats we had, and I was definitely able to figure out that you were super aware of what was going on in the game at all times. Daniel, on the other hand, was one of my closest allies for quite a long time. Even though I felt a bit betrayed after you turned on me and weren’t completely honest about it, I still think you’re a total sweetheart and played a great game. Oh and btw you both said such nice things about me on your rites of passages that I literally teared up and wasn’t able to finish my dinner that day. :’( Thank you guys your words really warmed my ice cold Finnish heart. <3

Coming into the final tribal council I honestly wasn’t sure which one of you guys was going to get my vote, although I thought I had a pretty good understanding of how both of you had played the game. But l definitely still needed to hear everything from your point of view. I was happy to realize that your opening statements pretty much confirmed my suspicions about your individual strategies and closest allies. Turns out I wasn’t just imagining things haha!

With that being said, even though I honestly love you both, I feel like one of you two has definitely played an overall better game. This person - at least in my opinion - had more control over votes, built stronger social connections and utilized more skill in their strategy. By the time we got to the merge I knew this person was one of the smartest players left, and I thought he would be a huge threat to win the game if he managed to make it to the end. After reading your opening statements my vote is already pretty much locked for that person, and I don’t really feel the need to ask any clarifying questions about the game, so feel free to answer this question just for fun:

If you could pick one person from the jury to spend a day with, who would you pick and what would you do together?

Thanks for a great game guys, it was so much fun! <3

I'd like to go to a concert with you and elsa xd

Okay, so my immediate reaction was to say you because we talked about wanting to travel and I really would love to do that. Like blah blah blah, i know we didn’t talk much and this can be seen as kiss ass. But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’m being serious cause you’re chill af and I think we’d have a great time. BUT we can’t do that in one day. SOOOO Instead, I’d want to hang out with TJ for a day, meet his girlfriend lol, explore his campus, and help him find some clubs around his school that he might like. Idk I just think TJ is a really cool dude and although I think he has confidence in himself, I don’t know if he’s fully aware of how cool he is. Like he’s told me once that he stayed away from the college atmosphere his first year and I just want him to realize that he EASILY has the potential to join a club, put himself out there, and still kill college. He has so much to offer so many people and I just kind of want to help him put himself a little bit out there more because I think no matter what he does, the people around him could truly benefit from being friends with him and I want him to realize just how much he has to offer.

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Nolan’s Jury Question

First off, congrats on making it to the final 2. It was no easy task this season given all the twists, turns, and flipping. My question to both of you is the same. What do you think played the most crucial role in getting you to the final two? It could be a singular move, an alliance, a key strategy, etc. I want to know what you think you did right to get yourselves to this position.

I think my key move was creating the all zwooper alliance between me nick and tj, after tj has already shown that he would vote me out. I took a risk to put myself in an Ideal situation where I could dictate votes, and that started with your vote unfortunately :/

I think the thing that was most crucial in getting me here to the end was my extremely deep relationships with the people I was working with. My relationships with TJ, Bryce, and Daniel were all so extraordinary that they were essentially all ride or die relationships. I can’t say if they’d all 100% take me. But I knew all of them trusted me and would keep me really far into the game. These deep relationships allowed me to flip the game on you, get vilma out (even though they didn’t even trust each other at all), get Ahrre out, and continuously be in the know. It gave intel from all sides of the game and ensured that the vote was never gonna end with me leaving. Hell, by final 7, it was near impossible to get me out without an idol since there was no way for someone to get 4 votes on me. And thus, I was able to do a ton of damage, stay safe, and get to the end.

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Joey’s Jury Question

Hello, the two of you. Congratulations on making this far, you did what the rest of us all wanted to do, yet couldn't, so that counts for something. I have no idea who I am voting for, because to be honest, I didn't really see either of you play very much game from my perspective, so these questions will be determining my answer.

Nick: Your speech shed a lot of light on gameplay I didn't know you played, which I think is a great way to play the game, but now you're here at the end. Reading through your speech, I didn't really see your BIG MOVE. The Nolan vote was impressive, but for the most part I just see you playing the middle and choosing to vote with the majority. Again, I really respect the way you played the game to get to the end, but I'm not sure if you were thinking about what you had to offer once you made it there.

Daniel: We never really talked, so your speech is giving me the only view I have on your gameplay is what you said in your speech. So I'll ask you an additional question: is everything you said in your speech 100% true? If I asked all the other jurors, would they say the moves you claimed as your own were your own? The alliances you made, were they genuine and mutual?

Here are the questions I'll ask for both of you - please answer honestly, because these will be dictating my vote.

1. Who was your #1? Specifically overall, but who did you trust most during every single merge boot.

2. Which boot, if you had full control, would you completely change, and who would you replace them with? How would that affect your game going forward?

First off from my point of view everything was 100% true. I wrote a plea trying to outline my game without exaggerating moves. Also, I gave credit where it was deserved.

1. On the first tribe is was definitely Ahrre and nick pretty equally as I felt we had really good connections. Next tribe swap it was probably Elsa as we talked A LOT just about the game and random things. When we went back to three tribes it was nick since I didn’t really have a connection with the other two. Come merge, elsa and Vilma were definitely my two numbers ones. After the elsa vote Vilma became my number 1. Once vilma left it was nick. Yes my allies were genuine, however when push came to shove I knew I had to turn on someone like vilma if I wanted a shot at winning. :/

2. Obviously if I could change the elsa vote I would but I couldn’t. Addition the first vote actually I probably would have votes kaitlyn instead of Joseph Bc he at least put in effort to talk. Now for the merge vote, every way I voted except for Elsa went my way and is what I wanted to happen, as it turned out pretty well and is why I’m here. HOWEVER, I do think if I could change a way a vote was handled, it would have been the Nolan vote Bc I felt like it totally tore Vilma and I apart when it shouldn’t have. It was kind of a dirty move not to tell her I was voting Nolan and stab her in the back like that. Going back I would have told her something.

I can’t tell if I’m supposed to respond to the paragraph you typed up so I will just in case. I think Nolan, Vilma, and Ahrre were all three big moves that I made. There was never a single time I just “went with majority” like you claim. I actually believe I made the majority (maybe not completely alone, but I definitely had a hand in every vote except yours).

The day Nolan left, TJ and Daniel were both ready to vote out Alex (3 hrs before the votes were due). They were scared we didn’t have the votes to get Nolan out. But I needed Nolan gone. So I talked to Kiler and Bryce. Made it clear we needed to vote out Nolan. And then when they agreed, I told them to talk to TJ and Daniel cause the only way it’d happen is if Kiler and Bryce said they wanted to do it themselves. So, In those last 3 hours, I flipped the vote to make sure it was Nolan leaving. (Refer to Lexi’s 1st question for a more detailed explanation of this vote and confirm with TJ and Bryce that what I’m saying is true).

The week Vilma was ready to go, Daniel and others actually were nervous about doing it. Everyone thought that Ahrre or Vilma had an idol and since Ahrre was immune, that idol would get played on Vilma. In fact, Daniel and Bryce distrusted each other so much that Daniel WHOLEHEARTEDLY believed Bryce was gonna flip back to Vilma and that we didn’t have the ability to split the votes. Here’s one of the quotes that he said “So I talked to Bryce and he does want to flip back with Ahrre and Vilma for now. I think he is thinking of taking out Alex bc of an idol […] I did think of another idea, but idk if y’all would want to do it. Us three plus Alex could take out Bryce here. He wouldn’t see it coming, no risk of an idol being played. Additionally going into final 6, we’d be up 4-2”. I can quote TJ saying “I’d rather have votes on Bryce as there’s a lesser chance of them saving Bryce than Vilma”. This happened 30 minutes before Tribal. I came on, told them that we have the votes to vote out Vilma, made Daniel and TJ believe the idol wasn’t getting played, made sure the idol actually wasn’t getting played, AND got Vilma out while saving Bryce. All things you can confirm with TJ as he was in the Team Zwooper chat where I did this. So while Daniel claims he was pushing to get her out, he was actually pushing to get Bryce out (or at least a split)

The week Ahrre went, everyone assumed he was gonna get the immunity to stay. Alex also tried getting Bryce out this round because of it saying “I think it’s safer to just go Bryce to keep us all in”. but I put my foot down and made it clear that there’s not a guarantee Ahrre will get it and that we have the votes to split it. Daniel, TJ, and Kiler wouldn’t have trusted Bryce enough to vote with us, so we had to split it 2-2 on Ahrre and Bryce. But I knew Bryce had the idol so I told him to use it just in case. Daniel was literally not even here for this vote and this plan, although I think I suggested it first, came to fruition because of me and TJ.

So while you might have thought my game was just to go with majority, I definitely went out of my way to create and push votes. And all except yours were successful. (Hell, even when you were in the game and we were split into tribes at merge, I told Bryce that me/Him/Ahrre could vote out Alex before you even brought up the idea. And although Ahrre and Bryce wanted to vote you that round, I helped make sure Bryce was aware you didn’t want him out so that Alex left instead of you)

Now onto the questions.

1). I think my number 1 was Bryce. I easily trusted him the most and knew he would tell me anything shady would happen behind my back. He told me when TJ tried painting me and Daniel as a target. Told me when he found an idol. Told me when Ahrre and Vilma shared their idol clue with Daniel and him (he even told me the idol clue). Gave me an idol. Told me whenever Daniel was trying to do something shady like vote TJ without telling me OR even telling me when Daniel was trying to paint me and TJ as threats. We literally told each other so much. And it’s funny because I used this info to get people like Daniel to admit things to me that I already knew (ie. that Daniel was voting TJ). Granted, I trusted Tj and Daniel a lot as well and knew they were hella loyal as well. Like I don’t think there was much (if anything) that TJ kept from me either. But Bryce just had more information that I needed. And somehow, me and him were able to make it seem like we weren’t that close of a duo.

2). Honestly, every vote that happened, helped my game. In fact, I literally wanted every vote except yours to happen (and voted in majority every time except for when TJ left. But I knew he was leaving and didn’t use my idol on him cause I wanted him to go). So I guess if I HAD to pick (cause I honestly wouldn’t change anything about my game), I’d choose your vote? And I wouldn’t do anything crazy with it. I would just replace Nolan with you because you were working with me, but EASILY had a bigger target on your back. Adding ANOTHER layer of protection to me.

(If premerge counts tho. I would actually choose to replace Elsa with Jacob premerge cause I had a really good connection with Jacob before merge and would’ve had yet another ally. But Idk if you care much about that since it was so early).

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Lexi’s Jury Question

1. what their favorite ice cream flavor is.

2. what do you think was the most important vote for your game. Like you didn’t need to have anything to do with it, but What vote do you feel most helped you get to this point

1. Favorite Ice Cream is definitely mint chocolate chip.

2. For me it was definitely the Nolan vote. It put me in a position where I felt I could dictate the votes moving forward and stick with a group I believed I’d have a great shot beating in the end.

1). Okay So I love many types of Ice Cream. Mint chocolate chip, chocolate chip cookie dough, etc. BUT I guess if I had to pick one, my friend’s mom makes a bomb Stracciatella which is like vanilla with a bunch of thin chocolate pieces in it and it gives me so much nostalgia of when I was in Miami eating it. Ugh it’s great

2). So there’s two ways to interpret this, so I’ll explain both. For me, I believe Nolan leaving when he did was the BEST thing for my game strategically. I think with having connections on both sides of the game, I had really good awareness of the game before this vote and people would’ve saved me going forward. BUT that would’ve been on their terms. So, I needed Nolan out when he left so my game would stay on my terms. And that’s what happened. Once he left, Daniel had no chance to flip back cause Ahrre and Vilma hated him. And for anyone else to flip, they needed me or each other, and I knew that Bryce didn’t trust Kiler or TJ that much and TJ was super close to me so I didn’t have to worry about that. So when Nolan left, I knew that if any big moves were to happen, I’d likely hear about them and at least be able to prepare or be in control of them. Additionally, at that point, I just needed 4 people with me to stay safe and with my connections with Daniel, TJ, and Bryce, that number would never reach 4.

On the other hand, I think the person who needed to get out most for me to make it here was Ahrre. The twist at F6 was such a blessing because Ahrre EASILY had the ability to go on an immunity run and if he was able to take that all the way to the end, there’s no chance I make it to the end cause I was clearly gonna a big threat against him.

So Nolan leaving when he did was definitely the most important vote in terms of ensuring I was able to play the best game I could. BUT Ahrre was the most important person to take out in terms of me being able to make it to the end (since I think I still had a chance to make it to the end if Nolan stayed instead of going when he did. It just wouldn’t have been as great of a journey)

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Elsa’s Jury Question

Woof woof woof. Congrats to getting to the end!! Great statements from both of you, I'll just ask a few clarifying questions (sorry in advance if it's a lot, don't feel like you need to write a paragraph for all of them, a straightforward and concise answer is best):

Nick

Hi Nick!!! It was sad that we never really got a chance to connect, but these things happen. My questions for you are:

1. You said in your speech that you don't think Nolan would have been voted out without you getting Bryce, Daniel and TJ to vote together. In Daniel's speech, he said that he came to you and TJ with the idea of voting out the biggest threats in the game. My question is, did you really feel that without your influence, the vote would have gone differently considering that people were already discussing making a big move?

2. During the round Vilma was eliminated, how exactly did you get people to believe that their safety was in jeopardy if they voted you over her? Did you tell them you had an idol? Considering your ties with Bryce, TJ and Daniel, did you genuinely believe you could have gone home if you hadn't revealed this info (assuming you did ofc)?

3. Were you 100% set on eliminating TJ or would you have done something differently if you had the numbers? I only ask because in Daniel's speech, he indicated that this was a plan formed without you, or at least one you weren't aware of up until the end (unless I misunderstood what he said).

4. Why did you think Kiler was a bigger threat than Daniel or Bryce? Him potentially winning final immunity was almost a non-factor considering his challenge performance history, and so you would have had better odds at winning final immunity. Him being taken to F2 over you, although being a risk, was something you could have countered by taking the one ally you knew you could persuade or by simply trying to win the final challenge. I applaud your loyalty to Bryce and Daniel, but Alex being voted out is a puzzling outcome for pretty much all us jurors.

5. You mention that only receiving a single vote throughout the game is indicative of just how well you've played. I definitely agree to a certain extent, but what would you say to someone with the argument that your fellow finalist, who's received 10 votes, must have played a better game for surviving all those close-calls?

Daniel

Daniellll <3333 You are a great ally, and I wish we had had more time to work together. Here are my questions for you:

1. By saying that you knew I was pretty much going, does that mean you knew that Alex and Nolan were also voting me out? Why did you decide to not share that information and let the rest of us carry on with the split-vote plan?

2. Do you credit getting Nolan to flip to yourself or Vilma? Who had more of an influence on his decision?

3. What exactly triggered your decision to flip on Nolan and Vilma, pretty much soon after you decided to be in a separate alliance with them? In Nick's speech, he said that you didn't really have a relationship with Bryce or TJ, so was it ultimately him that convinced you to make a big move, or was it something that you were always prepared to do, even if it meant losing a close ally?

4. Nick said he told you that Vilma was throwing out your name during the round she got eliminated. Did you believe him and was this the reason you flipped on her (apologies if she actually was, I never asked)?

5. I commend you for flipping on the 'bois' because clearly Vilma and Ahrre were bigger threats than TJ and Nick. However, how can you convince me that you were a leader and not a follower in your new alliance(s)? Especially considering that you admit you simply played a supporting role in getting Ahrre out.

6. I understand that it would have been hard to vote Bryce out, considering you'd need Nick's vote as well, and it could have gone to a tie-breaker instead. However, if you had had the opportunity, would you have voted him out over Alex, and why or why not?

7. Why was loyalty a factor when you made your decision of who to take to F2, considering it wasn't one when you flipped in order to make big moves prior?

1. I did not know directly that they were voting you, but was very confident in it. However, nick leaked to me that no one was really voting me and he was pretty sure it was all on you. I did mention this fact to Ahrre in pms actually, because I didn’t want to throw it out in the alliance where I might get thrown under the bus.

2. I definitely give some credit to vilma Bc I know she talked to him a lot. However I do think I should get some credit, Bc I obviously had to talk to him and form out a plan so he felt comfortable working with me when he was on the fence.

3. Tj and I surprisingly talked a good bit despite us being against each other. Also, Bryce and I had been in an alliance together, so it wasn’t dependent on nick. It was my idea to flip I as brought it up to him and made the alliance chat, he was not the one to convince me. I had planned the flip for a couple of rounds Bc I just knew Ahrre and Vilma were too big of threats.

4. Yes, I did believe him and I do think it was true. BUT, I don’t think this was the main reason I flipped on her. She was clearly mad at me for lying, plus she was a massive threat. Unfortunately, with those two combinations i was inclined to vote her.

5. Like I stated before, I was the one to reach out to nick and tj, plus create the alliance chat. Nick may have convinced Bryce to flip, but I do believe i was the driving force for the flip vote of Nolan. I said I wasn’t going to vote out vilma at that time, and that I preferred Nolan or Alex to go. Yes, I give credit where it is deserved. I was stuck in a mountain with no cell service as to why I couldn’t contribute much that round. However, I think all of the other rounds I was a driving force in the votes.

6. Honestly, I wanted to do whatever it took to make final 3 Bc I believed I had a very good shot at winning. I originally wanted Bryce to go, Bc I thought he was a bigger threat and assumed nick would prefer him too. But, because nick was loyal to Bryce as well, I was totally happy sticking with Alex since it didn’t really make much of a difference. Since I knew Alex was voting me, I had to take whatever I could to get to let people give me a shot with my plea instead of just dragging Alex to the end.

7. Loyalty and strategy were both major factors, not just one or the other. Like I outlined before, i wanted to be in a final with someone who played a different game then me, rather than Bryce who I feel like we made similar decisions. Additionally, I believe both nick and Bryce having BOTH a lot of jury credit. So why piss off one juror who I had a final 2 with and not have a chance at getting his vote, when I could take someone who believed I would have a better shot against AND I’d have a shot of getting Bryce’s vote in my opinion.

1). Honestly, yes I do. Daniel was very hesitant to flip most of the game. He had a really good alliance with Vilma/Ahrre and he was also close to me (and had a connection with TJ). When he flipped, he made a chat with me and TJ (we had all talked about working together previously). BUT he literally prefeced it saying that he wanted to keep a few big threats in the game because he wanted shields going into Final 5. These shields, were Ahrre and Vilma, so he WAS open to voting Nolan. BUT he actually asked to do Alex that round instead (All this can be verified by TJ as it happened in our alliance chat). Now, getting the votes on Nolan in particular was a major effort by me. We all were okay with it, but we needed 2 votes to flip. Those votes had to be Alex and Bryce. Again, when Daniel initially flipped, he straight up said him and Bryce don’t talk much in PMs AND Bryce told me the same thing. They never really had a connection or anything. And so while TJ tried to get Ahrre to flip with no prevail. I worked on getting Bryce and Kiler. And up until 3 hours before the vote, Alex and Bryce were telling them conflicting things and we were ready to do the easy Alex vote. But I talked to Kiler, Laid out the fact he was leaving, and told him he had to vote with us. I then asked him to talk to Daniel and TJ so they’re certain it’ll happen and Kiler literally told me he was nervous to do so because he might fuck it up. But I encouraged him, telling him it was the only way. And same thing with Bryce. However, I knew Bryce was down with it very early on, but needed Kiler’s vote before I was like “Okay Daniel, this is certain and we have the votes”. Sooo long story short, if I didn’t mediate those conversations and didn’t head the charge, making sure they all knew we were together, they would likely not have communicated and we would’ve voted Alex out then.

2). I think I mistyped something or you misinterpreted it. That round, I knew for sure I wasn’t going home. TJ and Bryce both told me Ahrre was pushing for my name but were obviously not doing it and then I got Daniel to tell me the same thing. I knew Vilma was voting out Daniel (and believe that I made her think I was too). So I knew if she played an idol, I’d play mine. And I’d be fine. My connections with everyone were just good enough that only Ahrre wanted to vote me. So, I actually didn’t have to reveal anything along those lines (even though Bryce knew I had the idol cause he gave it to me). What I did instead was just make people paranoid of each other. I made it clear the Vilma was pitching to vote Daniel to make Daniel paranoid. I made it seem like I might go home because Ahrre was really pushing for me and attempted to guilt trip people. And made it seem like there was so much lying and shady shit going on that if we split our votes, we might be in trouble (Because honestly, there was a chance other people were). And so that helped bring our votes together and made it less likely for Daniel to do anything to keep Vilma (Cause remember, he REALLY wanted a shield going into Final 5 and his stipulation when flipping was that we needed to keep Vilma for a bit).

3). I was 100% set on getting rid of TJ that round. Bryce won immunity that week and I had the idol, so actually, if we voted together. only our votes actually mattered (and I knew we would vote together). So as soon as the Bryce won, I went to him and we talked about what we wanted to do. I straight up said, “we have the power to evict whoever we want, let’s talk about it and decide.” We debated between everyone, talking about how one of us might leave if Daniel/TJ won immunity and Kiler was there. So we need to make sure they split their votes in Final 4. BUT came to the conclusion that TJ was a competition threat and that if he won Final 4 immunity and if it was a final 3, he’d win the game. During this conversation, Bryce told me the plan that Daniel and Alex came up with. He was like “Yeah, they’re gonna tell you it’s you so that if TJ has an idol, it’s played on you or so you play an idol on yourself instead of TJ”. And he even told me about their chat lmao. Like when Alex came to me telling me he was voting me, I already knew this info so I knew he was just trying to BS me. And then I used Alex’s stuff to try to guilt trip Daniel and make him re confirm his promise to keep me to the end. You can ask Bryce to validate all this, but yeah. When Daniel “Brought me in on the plan”, I was already completely aware of what was happening and just used that conversation to make him want to take me to finals.

4). Okay. So, this one is a bit more complicated and my thought processes had a lot involved.

a) In final 4, I just had a gut feeling that it’d be final 2. Idk I just did. Kiler, although not the greatest at comps, still COULD win one (He beat Lexi) and still COULD be taken by anyone else. As much as I like Daniel and Bryce, winning a final immunity competition and having the choice to take me or someone people thought was an easy win, it’d be hard to take me (especially when people like Daniel claimed they felt they needed something to prove). Hell, I’m not gonna lie. Even I considered taking Kiler at some points.

b) Kiler made it very VERY clear to me that he thought I played the best. So I knew if he left the game, there was a good shot I’d get his jury vote. While on the opposite end, I’ve played so closely to Daniel and Bryce that if I voted either of them, I knew there was a good chance they could be bitter because they both assumed I’d take them to the end AND I had really good personal relationships with them which could get mixed.

c) I know that for me to win, the jury has to vote on who they think they played the best strategically and socially. But it’s always very hard to tell if that’s gonna be the main factor behind a jury’s decision OR if their past relationships will be. In the event that it was a final 3, Bryce and Daniel had the same relationships with the same people and I simply didn’t. SO, I figured, if the jury decided to base it off of those relationships, Bryce and Daniel would split jury votes and I can win without a majority (while if Kiler was in the game, all those votes would go to One of them. I.E. If they were basing it on relationships and Me/Bryce/Kiler were at the end, Bryce would get Ahrre/Vilma/Nolan/Elsa and there would be no chance for me to get them). HOWEVER, In the event they base it on strategic game, I believed that I played better and that I was one of the biggest reasons that either of them made it to the end. And either way, I’d have to make the jury realize that. So since they were very similar on a strategic level, if I could do it against one of them, I should be able to do it against both.

d) Lastly, if tied the vote on Bryce, he wouldn’t trust me if it was a final 2. And if I voted out Daniel, he would literally hate me (I know Daniel outside of the game, and know he’s gotten 4th MANY times for being too loyal to someone. And it hurts him a lot when that happens. So I didn’t want to be that person, lose his jury vote, AND be a dick). Plus, I’m loyal and friends with both of these people. I didn’t want to ruin either relationship when I had legitimate reasons to keep them

5) Personally, I believe receiving votes is a bad thing. It shows that there’s a flaw in your gameplay somewhere because each vote is indicative of someone not wanting you in the game. This forces someone into very specific gameplay. They have to be super careful and almost certainly HAS to work with the people not voting them. So while Daniel got votes and almost went home round after round, I was able to have the flexibility to do what I want. For example, Daniel didn’t want Vilma to go before Final 5. BUT because he destroyed that relationship and she wanted to vote him, he had no other options. Additionally, in survivor, an idol can be played at any time. Getting votes is EXTREMELY dangerous for this reason. Daniel’s close calls could be attributed to having allies. But imagine if the jury actually did give immunity to Ahrre in F6. Daniel would’ve went home. Same with his close call against Lexi at F9. and the close call at premerge. So, Daniel could’ve easily gone at any point and I don’t think it should be attributed to him that no idols got used. Ahrre knew he was leaving and we all thought Ahrre would likely get immunity so if he truly had the connections, he would’ve made sure his name wasn’t up that round. Nolan was the one who flipped so Lexi got blindsided by him, not Daniel. AND hell, even in the final 4, Bryce didn’t flip his vote to save Daniel. He flipped his vote cause he didn’t want to risk Daniel and Alex flipping the vote on him. All things that Daniel didn’t have control over and all things that could’ve got him sent home at any point. While I had control and knew there was no chance to leave.

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Nick’s Opening Statement

Hello jury. I want to start off by thanking you guys for such a fun game. I had a great time maneuvering all the social dynamics and getting to experience this will you all. This may be surprising to all of you guys, but… I believe I should win the game. Okay, maybe it’s not that shocking that I think that lol but I do. So hear me out and let me explain it to you. I think starting off at merge is probably the best way to explain my game. I feel like a lot of premerge is unneeded but if we’re gonna point anything out from that, I’ll point out the fact that I was on three separate tribes with varying people. So, coming to merge, there were a lot of people I never had the chance to actually communicate with and that sucked. These people included, Elsa, Lexi, and Vilma. Which surprisingly, is a lot of people who certainly had other connections that weren’t with me (not to mention all the people who I only went to 1 tribal with)

So coming into merge, I knew I had to keep the connections I had strong and work on ensuring they stayed there. One of these connections, Bryce, instantly told me about his alliance with Daniel/Ahrre/Vilma/Elsa where he didn’t trust them that much since they had blindsided him. Funnily enough, I had an alliance with literally every other person in the game. So we decided we’d keep each others’ names off the chopping block and play the fuck out of both sides. And that’s what we did. We decided Elsa should go first (out of her and Joey) since majority was already there and I didn’t have a connection with her. And although I was supposed to say Daniel’s name, I told everyone the vote was Elsa since I knew the other side wasn’t voting me and used that to gain trust. At the split, I worked with Joey to keep Bryce safe. Flipping on my own alliance. And Bryce told me he had found an idol that we decided we’d use for later. Joey leaving was a mess and a half due to Kiler coming back and Nolan flipping. But we decided to split our votes again to look inconspicuous since neither of us were getting votes. In this round, Bryce actually found a 2nd idol and gave it to me (to make sure we both had one in case one of us gets blindsided). I’m making this it’s own paragraph to show how connected I truly was. Following the Joey vote, Daniel was finally ready to flip. Me and him were close but had been on opposite sides all game. Yet, I made sure I never lied to him for this moment exactly. He flipped under the pretenses that he wants to wait to get the big threats out for a bit (so that me and TJ couldn’t get him out). BUT I had other plans. Despite their lack of connection, I got Bryce, TJ, and Daniel to work with each other. It’s funny cause 90% of the time they all knew what was happening, but didn’t trust each other. So they kept lying to each other about how they were voting. Instead, I had to bring them together. I told Daniel and TJ that Bryce was willing to do Nolan. I told Bryce that Daniel was willing to do Nolan. And I asked them to talk to each other so they knew they were on the same page. I also did this with Kiler, someone who I evicted. I knew he was alone and did everything in my power to make him work with me that round and made sure he talked to the others so they were aware we had the votes. This led to Nolan leaving (and I don’t think it would’ve happened without me connecting them all). The next two votes had hella paranoia due to idols. Vilma was the obvious target, but people thought she’d idol herself. So I had to go out of my way to make sure she thought she was safe AND I had to make Daniel want to vote her by telling him that she was throwing his name out there. That round my name was also going around, but I used everyone’s paranoia to make sure they all thought they had to vote Vilma or risk leaving (again, Bryce and Daniel were lying about their votes to each other). I then did the same thing with Ahrre, making sure the vote split, that Bryce used his idol to stay safe, and that Ahrre left when he did (cause EVERYONE thought he was getting immunity that round). That put me in a position in final 5 where I had 3 unspoken final 2’s who would never vote me. And knowing Tj had the best chance of winning, I had to let him go (I say “let” cause I could’ve used my idol on him).

Then comes F4. Daniel wants to vote Bryce. Bryce wants to vote Daniel. But Kiler came to me before I won immunity, apologizing for flipping and saying me and TJ were obviously the biggest threats. So, for me, it was much more beneficial to send him to the jury (since he’s seen how well I’ve played and might vote me to win), get out someone who would NEVER keep me in a potential F2 scenario (and who other people would probably take since he got voted out once), and just be a genuine and loyal ally to Bryce and Daniel. So, I told Daniel I was gonna tie the vote with him so he could do a fire making challenge. But that I was tying it on Kiler. And then I let Bryce know that I was doing this as well. This led to Bryce’s paranoia and him eventually voting out Kiler with me and Daniel.

This left me, in a final 3 scenario, where either person would take me to the end.

And although I did try hard for that immunity, I clearly didn’t win it and yet I’m still here. Showing that all the trouble I put myself through, all the lying and social maneuvering, and all the connections I made ended up working in my favor. And I hope after all this, you guys understand my game a bit better and realize that although I wasn’t the most social with everyone, I definitely put in a lot of work to keep myself safe and made sure all the people I knew I had 100% were safe each and every round.

Tldr; I think I should win this game because I played hard. I had nearly 3 different unspoken final 2’s (I say unspoken because I never asked anyone for a final 2. My relationships with people just made it feel as though no matter what we’d take each other) who always kept me informed and made sure I would never get voted out. Hell, this actually led to me only receiving a single vote throughout the entire game. Additionally, I was a major reason that some of the biggest threats left the game. My allegiances didn’t really trust each other, but knowing that they were telling ME the truth, I was able to convince them to keep voting with each other to ensure that my targets went home (Nolan, Vilma, Ahrre). And then, when the numbers dwindled, I sat with safety, knowing nearly everyone was willing to take me all the way to the end. And it is for these reason I think I should win the game

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ts-caymanislands · 6 years

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Daniel’s Opening Statement

Hello everyone! First off I’d just like to say I’m honored to be here in the final, especially since this is my first tumblr org. Coming from zwooper I felt like I had something to prove.

My Game In A Nutshell

Starting out, I didn’t want to play too flashy or have it seem as if I was controlling the votes. I wanted to prove I wasnt just some scrub since it was my first time playing an org, but I didn’t want to be an easy boot. No, I may not have been the forefront of pushing who was to go the first couple votes, but I was making subtle suggestions and knew everything that went on while others painted themselves as a target. I used this pre-merge time period to build strong relationships that would allow me progress in the game. Come merge is the time I stepped up and started fighting for what I wanted to happen. I put myself in a position where my vote was always needed, whether which side it from. Except for the Elsa vote, the player who I pushed to go and voted for was eliminated every single merge round. Week 1: When the trustlist twist was revealed I was super excited. I host a game that uses these to decide nominees every round and what not. Anyway, my goal for this was to end up high in the top ten, but not so high that I would be seen as a big social threat. I tried to make strong connections with the people I liked, but I didn’t want that to be held over my head. I got ranked 6, which I thought was perfectly ideal for my situation. Once the tribes were confirmed, Ahrre approached me with the idea of an alliance. I suggested one with the four, me, him, nick, and Bryce. I created the alliance chat, and from there it was an easy first vote to get rid of Joseph. Week 2: Woo! We won immunity Week 3/4: Tribe Swap! I was honestly very excited and happy with my new tribe. I felt like I had a great connection with Vilma, Bryce, Elsa, and ahrre. And the rest I had been somewhat friendly with. However immediately after immunity results came out I heard Jill was pushing for my name. Ahrre, Vilma, elsa, and I had an alliance which we decided to vote Jordan in the case Jill had an idol. Bryce, who I thought could potentially be playing both sides, was told to vote Jill just in case as precaution. I survived in a 4-3-1 vote. Week 5: After losing another immunity, voting Jill was a no brained for me. She had pushed my name earlier and overall we just didn’t really have much of a connection. Week 6: Woo another immunity win. Rip Emma Week 7: Unfortunately I was not picked to be on a tribe. HOWEVER, Alex and were able to pick 2 others to join our tribe. I could tell he was very strict with picking people who were in his tribe to protect himself. So, I didn’t want to make a scene. Therefore, I suggested nick and tj. Nick, who I definitely trusted was close with tj and were also very good at comps. I believed this gave me the best shot at surviving without putting a target on my back. We did end up being safe! Rip Jacob Week 8: WOO MERGE! I Was so excited. First merge turned out to be the only vote in the game that didn’t go my way. I tried to push for joey. Additionally, Ahrre came up with a plan to try and confuse the otherside and have the vote split between Elsa and I. Luckily I had some connections with nick and we had an agreement to tell each other what was going, and I pretty much figured it was Elsa going. Ugh a true queen was robbed this round by one vote <3 Week 9/10: After the last vote I was extremely nervous when I saw what the tribes split into. The only person I 100% trusted was vilma at the time. Tj and I had a complicated relationship while lexi and I were mutually against each other. I talked with tj A LOT that day trying to sway him to vote nolan or Lexi. It seemed like I made some progress, promising a f3 between the three zwoopers. Also, Vilma talked to nolan to see what he was considering. When Vilma told he was open to voting lexi I immediately jumped on the opportunity. About an hour before day change vilma and I were able to convince nolan to vote lexi. I survived by a vote of 3-2. Lexi was then eliminated in the duel to the death twist which I will say I was happy about Bc I believe she was a much bigger social threat. Week 11: After nolan flipped and saved me last round, Vilma and I created a chat with him so as to ensure he would potentially be open to flipping again against joey. Since he was the main factor in securing the 5th vote that was needed, he needed to feel safe. Joey did go home this round. Week 12: This was the point that I decided I couldn’t just sit in alliance and let it dictate. I saw what position nolan was in. He was in the middle and since his vote was needed, he was dictating who went home. SO, I basically went to tj and nick and said, “hey, we need to put the past in the past. Us three know each other, and I think we all know that us three are not the biggest threats in the game.” I felt like this was a move I had to make against the iconic “bois” alliance. I felt much more comfortable in a final against tj or nick rather than Ahrre or Bryce. Nick additionally was able to pull in Bryce. I unfortunately had to lie to vilma and ahrre :/ I felt sooooooo bad about this since I was so close to those two. I didn’t want an idol to be played on nolan. I do apologize as it was kind of a dirty move and I’d hate to have it influence anything in a friendship moving forward, Bc I do feel really bad about it reflecting back. This move did work and I felt like it put me in the most ideal position in the game. Week 13: Ahhh, Vilma another icon robbed. Voting you out was one of the hardest things for me to do this game. You were pissed at me for voting Nolan, and you had every right to be, I never blame you for that. But unfortunately, our relationship had been torn apart and as much as I kicking myself for suggesting your name, you were a major threat and it had to be done. You had played an amazing game and would have killed a final. Week 14: This was the day I was stuck on a mountain looking at bears LMAO. I’m not going to take credit for something I didnt do. Nick and tj came up with a plan to split the vote on Ahrre and Bryce the case of an immunity idol. Ahrre, who was proving to be a challenge beast needed to go otherwise he could win his way to the final. I voted Bryce in the end and Ahrre went home in a revote. Week 15: After tj Won the immunity decided by the jury, it opened my eyes to how big a threat he was. He never had received a vote against him up until this point and had played an incredibly solid game. Alex came to me with an idea the round before to get of tj. I was 100% willing to do this since I didn’t owe tj anything. I messaged Bryce and tried to see if he was willing to vote tj. I additionally made a chat with me, Alex, and Bryce securing the three votes tj. Since nick and I were close, I told him Alex and Bryce came up with a plan to get rid of him so an idol would be flushed. I had no intention of getting rid of nick or betraying him, but i just needed to make sure an idol wasn’t played on tj. Week 16: After nick won immunity, I was totally expecting to go to a tiebreaker with Alex. I believed he would have been an easier opponent to beat in that situation. Nick was also able to convince Bryce to vote Alex so he ended up going 3-1. I did try to get Alex to throw his vote off me just in the case if Bryce didn’t vote Alex. Week 17: OMG my first ever tumblr individual immunity win! I did decide to take nick to the finals as we had a deal to take each other. I can never be certain if he would have honored his end, but I always intended to honor mine. ADDITIONALLY, I believe I had a much better shot against because I feel like Bryce and I played similar games. We both flipped at certain moments, were very strategic in putting ourself in the best position. Nick on the other hand had been on the wrong side of the vote a few times he never really made a flip from one side to the other or a major big move, but played more loyal. I wanted their to be a contrast in game styles between me and the other finalist. Key Points Why I Should Win: I always put myself in a position where my votes was needed and I was able to push what I wanted to happen. I was proactive not reactive. Besides one vote, I always knew exactly what was happening and voted out who went home.

I won final immunity guaranteeing myself a shot in the final.

I felt like I was an underdog, and had something to prove coming into this game being it was my first org.

Final Thoughts:

I just want to say I’m honored to be in the final, and proud of what I accomplished no matter the result. Nick too has played an amazing game and I wish him the best of luck. I tried to write a plea that was honest, with no bullshit trying to take credit for anything I didn’t do. I wanted to own up to my game, and if that isn’t enough then I’ll at least know I did my best. It was a pleasure playing with each one of you, and hope you consider voting for me. Thanks!

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