#writing this down it doesnt have to bounce around in my head distracdting me

[bomnun]

(more annoying thoughts. skip this post if you don’t want to read about album sales and other statistics, which i know many of you people, who are much smarter and have much more self preservation than me, don’t)

for some reason i can’t make it unrebloggable, but please don’t reblog this nor interpret it as “hate” towards any of the other artists i mention here. success or lack thereof is never a reason i’d hate or try to diss anyone. i’m just comparing numbers.

not paying attention to numbers within kpop at all is good and healthy, and i wish i were more like that too, but i feel like when you’re going to make assumptions about groups’ success, future and levels of popularity you should at least go to wikipedia first. sorry for being like this, but i do get really annoyed when fans assume pentagon desperately need this goddamn survival show and go on about how much it helped victön and nü’est. 2022 ptg sells more albums and charts better than 2022 vïcton. nüest’s first week sales pre produce were 600 (obviously they exploded in popularity after the show, but the novelty of it and people’s trust and interest in survival shows has died off since completely; on that note ptg chart better than the previous mnet planet survival show group in korea). invite u’s first week sales were 76 996. the album sales market has changed drastically in that time, but, still, for comparison ptg’s debut album sold 3 636 in its first week, which wasn’t good then either i think???. i’m not pretending they’re mega famous or anything, and cube clearly wants an explosion in album sales from their artists, so 110k-ish, is clearly not enough to them.

the situation isn’t equivalent to clc either (helicopter 18k sales vs invite u 102k sales and a music bank win), because, elkie had already terminated her contract before gp999, they hadn’t had group activities in months, while ptg had aaa and kbs gayo daechukje during the training camp week still one of the main reasons i couldn’t believe it and are going to france performing as a group in february. if cube’s going to try to pull the plug on them it still hasn’t officially happened. based on their recent vlives kino’s trying hard to manifest a positive future (and i support him!! i’m with you) but shinwon’s trying to be as realistic as possible, and they both said they’re going to come back in 2023, even when things ar e....looking the way they are.

if people are going to make such big statements about doom or how one group’s situation is exactly like anothers without knowing...anything... please… look up basic facts first. i know everyone thinks they know pentagon because they know shine and the fact that they haven’t had a mega viral hit song Everyone knows since, but we really aren’t in 2018 anymore  the fandom has more than doubled since, and, yeah, a few left after the survival show participation announcement but it’s still much bigger than it was pre-2020.

i still think there’s no similar situation to such a publicly recognized (in korea and overseas; some japanese 48 girls are more popular, but...not already in kpop grouos nor have they made multiple hits for mnet before) person who still has an active group, a legit fanbase, and success of that scale not even in a distant past putting himself in a situation like this. i doubt we’ll be able to fullly hear his reasoning for another couple of months, but i still seriously wonder what the conditions were for him to unplannedly join within days after his military discharge, when he’d gone for two years spending as much time as possible with pentagon and only talking about the future pentagon comebacks he wanted to participate in.

#i feel like #writing this down it doesnt have to bounce around in my head distracdting me #tldr im tiiiired of people talking about pitigi knowing nothing and continuing to argue with fans who are just stating facts #in other agencies groups on pitigi level are keeping the lights on