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Reason #17: Jon’s “Sansa” Tantrums: Jealousy/Rivalry vs. Gratefulness/Forgiveness

Guys, I’m still not over the way Jon flipped in both scenes above. And about how differently they played out, even though they both ALL about Sansa. The question remains what the writers intended with this parallel. So I’m trying to dig a bit more into the Jon/Littlefinger dynamic and why the crypt scene really really matters a lot (and the Theon scene was supposed to make us aware of how much the “Littlefinger choke” mattered)

So we know that Sansa has become the center of Jon’s universe ever since he came back from the dead and found her. It is all still in the subtext whether this is a “romantic” attachment or not, but the point is that Jon is extremely attached to Sansa. To the point that she is the “button” that can either switch on Jon’s “killer” mode or - as in the case of Theon and Ramsay - switch it off, for “her” sake.

Sansa is at the same time the one thing that can make Jon lose control and at another time, regain it. We’ve written before about how Sansa is Jon’s weakness, his “pressure point” and purpose in (his new) life.

Regardless of whether Jon sees Littlefinger as a rival (he subconsciously does imo) the outcome of the choking scene is that Littlefinger sees Jon as a rival for Sansa’s heart. The scene in which he emerges from the crypts, still shaken because that was the closest he came to being murdered in a long time, it’s clear that the cogs are working overtime. I wonder: What do other viewer think he is thinking? Did he seriously expect Jon to give him a hug and welcome him into the family?

Hardly.

Littlefinger must have known he would be refused. What he did NOT expect was the violence of Jon’s reaction to his proposal. He expected Jon to be rude, gruff, perhaps a little rough (as a protetive brother would be), but he did not expect to get nearly killed. He also fully picks up on the Ned/Cat references - the last time he was choked for loving a Tully redhead it was by her *husband* - not her brother.

People also try to ”normalize” and explain away Jon’s violent attack on LF by citing all the bad things that LF did and that Jon supposedly knew about.

Fact is, he did not know. Unless Jon had been in telepathic contact with Bran who later reveals what LF really did.

At this point, what Jon looks at in the crypts is a smarmy creep, who’s only “crime” was to entrust Sansa to the Boltons and marry her to Ramsay - which was an absolutely horrible decision, however, it was not LF’s conscious choice to have Sansa mistreated. Seen from the outside, what LF did by bringing Sansa to WF was a stupid mistake (even if we judge him for it, because we feel that he should have been able to gauge the situation and danger better).

But another FACT IS: Jon made the SAME mistake LF made of “underestimating a stranger.” Actually, even worse, Jon still underestimated and misjudged Ramsay and his character even AFTER Sansa told him not to do so.

So if people want to argue that Jon attacked LF because he endangered Sansa by giving her to Ramsay -- this is Jon’s own mistake mirrored in LF. Jon nearly endangered Sansa AGAIN by underestimating Ramsay (and this haunts Jon big time -- as argued below)

Well, the funny thing here is that we know that Jon can be quite FORGIVING of other men who misjudge situations and make “bad” decisions, because he has done THAT often enough himself.

The fact that he forgives Theon for all he’s done to the Starks and Jon’s brothers (!), saying that he doesn’t always do the right thing himself is very telling. Jon doesn’t kill Theon on the spot because he redeemed himself in Jon’s eyes by “what [he] did FOR SANSA” - so saving Sansa’s life made up for all the crimes Theon committed against the Starks.

Now...remember how Littlefinger came to Sansa’s aid in the Battle of the Bastards and effectively saved her life? Jon knows that Sansa would have died if they had lost the battle, which was the case before LF came around the corner with the KotV. So Jon is also very much aware of the fact that Littlefinger objectively “redeemed” his mistake of giving Sansa to the Boltons by coming to “HER” rescue in the Battle of the Bastards and helping her bring down her abuser, Ramsay. In that way, Littlefinger also did something good

“FOR SANSA”

Jon SWORE to protect Sansa from Ramsay --- but he FAILED big time and it was Littlefinger who saved not only Jon’s ass and his men, but in a weird way Littlefinger also became Sansa’s champion and her hero of the BoB --- which had hitherto been the role Jon had occupied!

From 6x04 onwards, Jon had become Sansa’s “hero”, the hero she had always dreamt of: he promised to protect her, he promised he would not let Ramsay ever touch her again --- and then he failed and had to witness how LF became Sansa’s champion who protected her when he was unable to.

Don’t tell me there is no rivalry between Jon and Littlefinger - because there is more than enough.

And this is the crux: Jon can see how Littlefinger occupied roles in Sansa’s life that Jon himself could (supposedly) NOT occupy (for reasons): rescuer, champion, (supposedly, though we know better now) trusted confidante...

....SUITOR and LOVER...

And THIS is where something in Jon’s head goes “bang”.

The Battle of the Bastards was when BOTH Jon and Littlefinger fought for Sansa in their own way, more or less successfully, they were BOTH her champion/hero. But Jon failed in the end and Littlefinger came out as the rescuer/protector.

In Winterfell BOTH Jon and Littlefinger have scenes with Sansa in which they ask for her “trust” and to be THEIR confidante: both want to be Sansa’s “partner” and team-mate, the one whom she trusts and works with. And we know it is Jon whom Sansa CHOOSES as her second half, even if LF thinks that he still has relevance for her --- this time, Jon won that rivalry big time.

In the crypts, the topic of Littlefinger being a suitor for Sansa’s hand and potential LOVER comes up for the first time openly and explicitly. And this is a fight into which Jon CAN NOT enter, he is prohibited from partaking in THAT rivalry regarding Sansa. She is his whole world, but this is one ROLE he is NOT allowed to occupy in the given circumstances. But whether conciously or unconsciously, Jon is still part of this rivalry and it SHOWS in his violent fit.

Again, viewers who argue that Jon attacked Littlefinger because he hates him for “all he did to the Starks” (like, how does Jon know??) or “because he gave her to the Boltons” --- why does Jon not say so? Why does he not attack Littlefinger for exactly these reasons? Why are his words not “I could kill you for what you did to her/our family!!”

Instead it’s “Touch my sister and I’ll kill you myself” which are not resentful words out of hatred for past sins, Jon’s words are threatening, primal and a little bit on the possessive side (”my” sister). And I do not think that Jon is fully aware of his own behaviour, which is part of what makes this scene great.

Because Littlefinger gets it: there is subtext in Jon’s behaviour, and then he looks up at Sansa and he knows there is subtext in BOTH their behaviour towards one another.

All throughout Season 7, we see Jon desperate and frustrated, fighting to get his plans re: WW on track. He had every reason to flip out at some point while in Dragonstone or King’s Landing --- but there are only two times in all of the shit he is facing that Jon actually loses control....

...and both times it is about SANSA.

Sansa and NOT THE WHITE WALKER THREAT. When Jon tells Davos that he has not “time for any of that” meaning Queen D, this is literally five minutes before they spot the boat with Theon on the beach.

And Jon has time for THAT (cue Sansa-related scene coming up).

He had every reason to kill Theon and the urge was there, but Jon calms down because SANSA.

As we argued above, Jon had objectively zero reasons to kill LF, on the contrary, he owned him Sansa’s life as much as Theon --- had Ramsay won, she would have been dead or worse.

The big difference is: there is absolutely no rivalry between Jon and Theon. Even if Theon fucked the Starks big time and is in part also responsible for the death of Robb and Rickon (who was safe in WF before Theon came), the “factor Sansa” carries a lot more weight in Jon’s heart than anything else.

Theon did something for Jon that Littlefinger was threatening to “undo”: Theon gave Sansa to Jon. Littlefinger wanted to take her from him.

Little did BOTH Jon and LF know that Jon will soon be revealed to be the one who is truly in the position to take the two things Littlefinger coveted most in the world: Sansa and the throne.

It’s almost poetical that it is Sansa herself, together with Arya and Bran, who puts a final end to the underlying rivarly between the two men in her life. It was all about her - but she still has the last word and she gets to CHOOSE her champion and hero:

And it was NOT Littlefinger.

#jonsa #jon x sansa #sansa x jon #meta #reasons #Anti-Jonerys

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useyourrwords · 5 years

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Month in Review // So Many Readathons! – April | Part 1

My brain is tired.

This Month in Review post is going to look a little different!

This first post is just going to be about what I read, watched and listened to because… well there’s a lot! I mean it’s mostly books. But like. A lot of fucking books.

Well that’s not entirely true. It’s mostly because I decided to participate in loads of readthons! Not bad for someone who participated in their first ever readathon this year!

And I just couldn’t figure out a way to format things in a more space-efficient way without sacrificing how I like my posts to look. Perfectionism is a curse, honestly.

I didn’t want to put everything in one post because then it would have been v. v. long. and no one has the attention span for that…I sure don’t!

So you can find Part Two for this post as an extra post, outside of my usual blogging schedule, on Thursday!

If you would like to buy any of the following books please consider using my Book Depository Affliate link!

If you click on any of the fan art in this post it will take you to the artist’s page!

UnsolvedAThon

*Means that I had books for both clues.

UnsolvedAThon was created by Laura @ The Book Corps!

Clue 1*

[Ryan’s Path] The Search for the Mysterious Mothman – Read a book about a mythical creature or a monster.

[Shane’s Path] The Harrowing Hunt for Bigfoot – Read a book about a mythical creature/monster.

Clue 2

[Shane’s Path] The Strange Disappearance of D.B. Cooper – Read a mystery or thriller book.

│The Rook││

Clue 3

[Shane’s Path] The Haunting of the Salem Witch Trials – Read a book involving witches.

Clue 4

[Shane’s Path] The Horrifying Murders of the Zodiac Killer – Read a retelling.

│Toil & Trouble││

Clue 5

[Shane’s Path] The Secret Society of the Illuminati – Read a book about or involving a secret society.

│The Rook││

Clue 6

[Ryan’s Path] The Enigmatic Death of the Isdal Woman – Read a book involving spies or espionage.

│The Morning Star││

Clue 7

[Ryan’s Path] The Haunting of Hannah Williams – Read a book involving ghosts or spirits.

│City of Ghosts││

Clue 8*

[Ryan’s Path] The Historic Disappearance of Louis Le Prince – Read an unknown book or a book that has less than 500 ratings on Goodreads.

│Rad Girls Can││

[Shane’s Path] The Thrilling Gardner Museum Heist – Read a book involving a heist or thieves.

Clue 9*

[Ryan’s Path] The Haunted Town of Tombstone – Read a book about an outlaw/a group of outlaws.

│The Morning Star││

[Shane’s Path] Horrifying Cases of Ghosts and Demons – Read a collection of short stories/anthology.*

│Toil & Trouble││

Clue 10

[Ryan’s Path] The Odd Vanishing of Amelia Earhart – Read a book with a female main character.

│The Rook││

│Toil & Trouble││

│City of Ghosts││

I did it!

O.W.L.s TBR

Half way through the month I watched a few O.W.L.s TBR video’s on Youtube and decided I would participate as long as the books I was already reading for the UnsolvedAThon would fit the prompts.

If you don’t know what the O.W.L.s readathon is you can check it out in the link above. It’s basically a readathon created by Gintare @ Book Roast on Youtube so us mere muggles could experience the exams that students at Hogwarts have to experience!

I had initially wanted to join O.W.L.s when I first heard of it in March but brushed it off as impossible since I was already doing a pretty major readathon.

Well it turns out that I could participate without having to read any extra books I hadn’t already decided to read!

I decided to sit my exams for the Professor career. There were quite a few career’s I would have preferred but unfortunately it was required to read the History of Magic prompt, which is a book at least 10 years old and I just didn’t have time to add another book to my TBR. Plus the only books I know I own that meet that requirement are IT and Game of Thrones and fuck that. I definitely don’t have time for those!

For the Professor career you get to choose which subject you want to teach! I would have chosen to be a History of Magic professor but, like I said, none of the books on my TBR fit the prompt. Instead I have chosen Ancient Runes!.. Or maybe astronomy???

I don’t know! I just covered both topics and then I’ll decide when its time for the N.E.W.T.s, a readathon connected to the O.W.L.s, in August! Not being able to choose which subject is very on brand for me.

Ancient Runes

Read a retelling

│Toil & Trouble││

Arithmancy

Read a work written by more than one author

│Toil & Trouble││

Astronomy

Read a book with Star in the title

│The Morning Star││

Care of Magical Creatures

Read a book with a land animal on the cover

│City of Ghosts││

Charms

Age-line: Read an adult book

│The Rook││

Defence Against the Dark Arts

Reducto: Read a title that starts with R

│Rad Girls Can││

Herbology

Read a book with a plant on the cover

│Toil & Trouble││

Muggle Studies

Read a contemporary

│The Morning Star││

Transfiguration

Read a book with sprayed edges or red Cover

│City of Ghosts││

I did it!

YA Bookaholics April Readathon

April 11-15

I decided last minute, again, to participate in another readathon! This one was hosted by the YA Bookaholics group on Goodreads and for that one we kept track of how many pages we read!

I was hoping to read more, but it did kick my butt into gear to finish two books!

Thursday

│Sawkill Girls│61│Toil & Trouble│36│Total 97 Pages│

Friday

│Sawkill Girls│80│Total 80 Pages│

Saturday

│Sawkill Girls│138│Toil & Trouble│53│Total 191 Pages│

Sunday

│Sawkill Girls│181│Total 181 Pages│

Monday

│The Rook│16│Total 16 Pages│

Grand Total

│565 Pages│

I think I might continue to participate in this reading-sprint style readathon each month, from now on, as it really makes me want to read more! Hopefully next time I’m not working every day of the readathon!

Unexpected Readathon Time – April

April 18-22

Destiny @ Howling Libraries hosts unexpected readathons over in her group on Goodreads!

I decided to participate this month since I was already doing so many readathons, what’s another one???

Like the Bookaholics readathon, I chose to keep track of my progress by pages read.

Thursday

│The Rook│69│Total 69 Pages│

Friday

│The Rook│17│City of Ghosts│100│Total 117 Pages│

Saturday

│The Rook│35│City of Ghosts│64│Total 99 Pages│

Sunday

│The Rook│46│City of Ghosts│121│Total 167 Pages│

Monday

│The Rook│9│Total 9 Pages│

Grand Total

│461 Pages│

Not as good as the Bookaholics one but I still feel like a read a lot! More than I would have otherwise.

April’s TBR

│I’ve Got This Round││

Read

│I’ve Got This Round│Mamrie Hart│││││★★★★★│Read Apr 6│

│Rad Girls Can│Kate Schatz││││││★★★★│Read Apr 7│

│Toil & Trouble│Tess Sharpe││││││3.5★│Read Apr 16│

│City of Ghosts│Cassidy Blake #1│Victoria Schwab││││││★★★★│Read Apr 21│

│The Rook│The Checquy Files #1│Daniel O’Malley││││││★★★★│Read Apr 27│

│The Morning Star│Shadow of the Templar #1│M. Chandler││││││★★★★│Read Apr 30│

I literally read finished this book 3 minutes before midnight.

│Smoke Gets in Your Eyes│Caitlin Doughty││││││

│Murasaki Shikibu│Khutlun│Sayyida Al-Hurra│Mochizuki Chiyome│Doña Ana Lezama De Urinza & Doña Eustaquia De Sonza│Bygone Badass Broads│Mackenzi Lee│││││

│”Stagecoach” Mary Fields│Yennenga│Annie Jump Cannon│Wilma Rudolph│Alfhild│Calafia│Keumalahayati│Marie Marvingt│Iara│Jane Dieulafoy│Rejected Princesses│Jason Porath│││││

Book of the Month

│Sawkill Girls│Claire Legrand│││││││★★★★★│Read Apr 14│

│Average Rating: 4.5★’s│ 5│

Structured TBR Pass or Fail?

│Must Read: 7/5│ 1/1│ 0/0│ 4/2│ 6/3│ 10/10│ 5/5│

│Allowances: 1/1│ 1/1│ 0/0│ 0/0│ 1/2│

Past Grey Reads

Book Review // Girl Made of Stars – I Am Broken

Grey Reads // Everything’s On Fire and I Couldn’t Be Happier – Girls of Paper and Fire

Grey Reads // Bloody Moors & Candy Castles – The Wayward Children 2 & 3

Film & TV

Month’s TBW

│Game of Thrones│Season 2-3││

│The Bold Type│Season 3││

│Brooklyn Nine-Nine│Season 6││

│RuPaul’s Drag Race│Season 11││

│On My Block│Season 2││

│Captain Marvel││

│Avengers Endgame││

I plan on seeing this with my mum on Mother’s Day!

│Us││

I was going to see this while my car was being serviced but there wasn’t a screening on at the right time for me.

Watched

│Younger│Season 1-4││2015│ Darren Star│ Sutton Foster, Miriam Shor, Hilary Duff│

There is so much about this show that I don’t like, that annoys me a ridiculous amount and yet…I can’t stop watching it. It’s a problem. And there’s only 12 episodes each season and they’re only 20 minutes each. It’s so easy to put this show on and not think about anything but how stupid the characters are.

Except Maggie. I love Maggie.

│The Bold Type│Season 3││2017│ Sarah Watson│ Katie Stevens, Aisha Dee, Meghann Fahy│

I love this show so fucking much. I was hoping Younger would be just an older version of The Bold Type… And yet The Bold Type shows far more maturity, actually has character growth, and I don’t want to punch any of the main characters which is far more than I can say for Younger.

│RuPaul’s Drag Race│Season 11││2009│ RuPaul│RuPaul, Michelle Visage│Watching weekly episodes│

I’m still living for this season. I’m glad to see more of Plastique’s personality and Vanjie is still giving me life.

│Game of Thrones│Season 2-5││2011│ David Benioff, D.B. Weiss│ Emilia Clarke, Peter Dinklage, Kit Harington│

I—I forgot what an actual shit storm I had to endure. Like I knew. But I forgot how bad it was all the time. It just doesn’t stop.

But I’m loving making snide smart-ass comments throughout now that I know what happens.

Like bitch, you about to dieeeeeeee.

Fuck your honour, I’d rather survive, to be honest.

Also this re-watch is just a reminder of how fucking much I love Tyrion. And Briene. And Arya. And Sansa, god I love her so much more now. And Podrick, bless him.

Mum and I are getting through the seasons so quickly (thank you Easter weekend!) that now I’m worried we’re gonna finish it before the last season is completely out.

│Captain Marvel││2019│ Anna Boden, Ryan Fleck│ Brie Larson, Samuel L. Jackson, Ben Mendelsohn│

I went and saw this with my mum and omg it was sooooooo good.

This was better than Wonder Woman. I would die for Carol Danvers and Fury and his fucking cat.

Also I would fucking love to see grown up Scientist Monica in End Game, kicking ass STEM style.

│Bonding│Season 1││2019│ Rightor Doyle│ Zoe Levin, Brendan Scannell, Kevin Kane │

Youtube

│Ladylike│Devin Shares Her Sexual Assault Story│

I sobbed, like ugly crying, can’t breath, quiet sobbing.

Obviously it’s a very triggering video so please don’t watch it if it’ll harm your mental health!!!! You’re health comes first!

If you’re someone who wants to try and understand what its like for women who experience sexual assault then this is a good video to watch.

│Jessica Kellgren-Fozard│Royal Inbreeding Gone Wrong! (Was It Ever Right?) // Charles II [CC]│Am I Disabled Enough? // ft. Hannah Witton [CC]│LGBTQ+ Relationships Should Be Taught In Schools [CC]│Royal Drama! // How Historically Accurate is Mary Queen of Scots? [CC]│A Lesbian Queen of England!? How Historically Accurate is The Favourite? [CC]│The Bisexual Artist Who Changed The World From Bed // Frida Kahlo [CC]│Deaf, Blind and Awkward // Helen Keller // #DisabilityHistoryMonth [CC]│The deaf princess who became a style icon // Queen Alexandra // #DisabilityHistoryMonth [CC]│

OMG. So i stumbled upon this youtuber ages ago because I saw that she did a video on how historically accurate The Favourite was and I was panning to watch that movie. So I watched it and then forgot about Jessica’s video but she popped up in my feed again and so I spent almost the entire last day of the month binge watching her videos when i should have been doing food shopping.

Anyway I love her, she’s disabled, and super gay and vintage and really outspoken about being disabled and super gay and I love her.

She is also someone who makes learning history really fucking fun. Her Royal Inbreeding Gone Wrong! video is especially funny and she also has a video on disabled & queer historical figures and a video on how historically accurate the Mary Queen of Scots movie is!

A lot of her videos are closed captioned (not just the predicted captions, like actually people sat down and took the time to create accurate captions for her videos) and I super appreciate it as someone with audio processing issues and a mum who can’t sleep with any volume above like a 5. You can tell which ones by the [CC] in the title!

She’s amazing and if you’re going to check out any new youtubers in the immediate future, it should be Jessica.

Music

│YUNGBLUD│11 Minutes + Halsey│Loner│Falling Skies + Charlotte Lawrence│

│Dodie│Burned Out│

│Troye Sivan + Lauv│i’m so tired…│

│Steve Aoki│Waste It on Me + BTS│

│Billie Eilish│idontwannabeyouanymore│bury a friend│bad guy│you should see me in a crown│all the good girls go to hell│

│Ariana Grande│NASA│fake smile│

Past Grey Watches

Grey Watches // I Hate It So Much I Love It – A Christmas Prince

Grey Watches // It Has To Be A Shit Show – A Christmas Prince: The Royal Wedding

Grey Watches // I Wanna Bone Jude Law and Kate Winslet – The Holiday

I’m honestly in Game of Thrones Overload

What did you do this month? What did you read? What did you watch? What posts did you write that you’re super proud of?

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