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#we're not romantically attracted to each other but we do love and care greatly about each other bc of isaac
clockworkspider · 2 months
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I'm coming into your inbox to complain to you about rustica and chloe (and fandom shipping) because i can
I wish people would stop trying to painfully shove them into either "lovers" or "father and son" because both are very inaccurate and far-fetched.
Like, yeah rustichloe care about each other a lot but caring about people=/=romance? And yeah they're really cute together but again, wholesomeness=/=romance either?
And on the flip side, even if Rustica saved chloe when chloe was 13, older man caring about younger male child=/=family. Also, if you read any rustichloe story, 99% of the time it's chloe trying to stop rustica from getting scammed or getting otherwise taken advantage of. Like, if we're sorting people by what traditional family roles they're closest to, chloe would be the dad lol. But also at the same time chloe really needs someone as stupidly caring and comforting as rustica because god knows this poor baby never got comfort.
Anyways it drives me insane when people fight over them like "it's so obvious that they're lovers" "eew no, it's clearly a family" ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG. Clearly people are projecting hardcore when they look at rustichloe, and like, fine i guess. You can have fun with fiction and make your own interperpretations. But how do they not realize just how much they're projecting when they interact with other fans who come to entirely different conclusions? How do you not look at yourself after that and realize "hmmm, maybe my own experiences and wishes lead me to interpret these relationships in a biased way" and instead directly go to "i am right and these other people are wrong😤"
Rustichloe aren't lovers, they aren't family, they are mentally ill travel buddies who care about each other greatly. Why do fandoms try so hard to interpret things into text that just....aren't there. Canon gives you wonderfully weird relationships and you try to make it either family/friends/lovers? Why
In conclusion, live laugh love rustichloe, that one scene in mainsto 1 still makes me cry, holy shit chloe's VA is really good for that delivery
THEY ARE SO LIVE LAUGH LOVE!
Where are you even finding these fandom discourse? I don't really wanna know I just haven't seen any 😂
The funny thing is it's not that I would describe them as neither it's more like I could describe them as "all of the above". Cause I do think there's aspect of infatuation between Chloe to Rustica.
And like. Going off topic a bit. Specifically regarding romance it's like. Us as 21st century humans have a certain definition of romance that's connected to like... Marriage and the elusive thing called "romantic attraction" cause "dating" is a fairly modern concept that's almost paramount for romance to exist in the contexr of our lives. But like. A lot of people in history across different culture didn't "date".
"Dating" is a process in which people spend time together deliberately to get to know their romantic compatibility, with a special focus on "romantic attraction" and "chemistry". And I think the concept of dating is so integral to the modern understanding of romance that concepts like marriage and lifelong companionship also gets tied together in one big bundle.
And then here you have, like, characters who are wizards and they can live very long. They're also in a culture different from ours. They form companionships that either last for life or can last hundreds of years. They're often bond by fate in ways uncommon irl cause they're story characters. So really a lot of time the characters are very much like... Soulmates. They don't have to fit into our definition of romance but it's also Not not romance because like. Frankly we have very limited model of lifelong companionship irl.
(And like. Regarding QPR, it's a term that exist because we exist in a culture where lifelong companionship = modern romance = monogamy, so I don't think it quite applies to characters in settings where the culture isn't. Like. Modern 21st century queerspace.)
So anyway I think the way that Chloe and Rustica chooses to stay together make them very much like lovers, I also think Chloe's infatuation lends itself to exploring the concept of desire very easily. His dependence and Rustica's comforting nature also lends itself to exploring the concept of seeking love from parental figure very easily. And like. People looking for parental figure in their lovers? As common as one might think!
So yeah my two cents is I think they're more than either labels but I do think there's a strong resemblance to both.
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theninthdoor · 1 year
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seoho || ideal type; tarot reading
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disclaimer: in my Ideal Type readings, I look into what the person in question is currently (consciously and unconsciously) attracted to! it's not necessarily their perfect match or the one they will end up with.
✦ Impression (What is seen externally // Might not accuratelly represent the person):
cards: four of wands, death (ten of cups, two of wands), world
So, first of all: this is someone with a big, big presence! I'd even go as far as saying that they're visibly extroverted - everybody would simply know it by looking at them. Seoho's ideal type is the sort of person who fills a room with their energy and is capable of influencing everybody in there. They would love to bring people together and introduce them to each other, always hoping great friendships would be built out of that. Besides, they're also that one individual who's always in a good mood, making people laugh and asking them more about their lives and stories. So, overall, I think it's safe to say that we're looking at a very friendly and bright impression of a person. Also, they may seem very cultured and multifaceted at a first glance. In that sense, because they appear to be extroverted, they might be the type of person who, as soon as they meet someone new, they never stop talking about their trips, movies/documentaries they have watched, stuff they have read, other people they have met (specially those from different cultures, who might have taught them one thing or another), etc.
✦ Personality:
cards: knight of cups, six of cups (queen of cups), judgement (fool)
With this spread, I think it's fair to say that his ideal type is a heart over mind sort of individual. As we see with the Knight of Cups, this is someone who's in love with the idea of love. They would do anything to pursue their heart's desire, and might even fail to see the negative aspects of the situation/person they're running after. They are romantic, sensitive and charming, and perhaps somewhat idealistic. Mind you, this also means that they might not be the most mature and commited individual, even though they very much enjoy being in relationships. It's the excitement of the pursuit and of the honeymoon phase that gets them going; what's after isn't so much of their enjoyment. On a positive note, and to end this section, we see that Seoho's ideal type is also a very compassionate and sentimental person. They might be very fond of children, and find great delight in babysitting or teaching kids new and fun things; or they might even be greatly attached to the places and objects of their own childhood. However, they are also someone who knows when time has come to move on, and they're not afraid of taking that leap into a new beginning (as well as influencing others to do the same).
✦ What his ideal type should provide in a relationship:
cards: nine of cups (seven of pentacles), eight of pentacles, ten of pentacles
In contrary to what we saw previously, what Seoho looks for his ideal type to provide in a relationship is all about commitment, stability and a realistic approach. The only Cups card we got here was the Nine of Cups clarified by the Seven of Pentacles, so that means that there should still be that creative, romantic energy, and the pursuit of their dreams and goals as a couple, but it has to be done patiently and with a lot of planning and hardwork involved. He certainly wishes to enjoy a relationship full of abudance, happiness and the best things that life has to offer, however, both of them have to work for it and be willing to wait for things to manifest. On top of that, faithfulness and responsibility is very important to him as well. He looks for a partner that is aiming for the same type of longterm commited relationship as him, so people who can't seem to settle down and who clearly don't care about a traditional style of union might not be the best match for him.
(Disclaimer: all readings are alleged and for entertainment purposes only.)
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1111jenx · 3 years
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What are some Venus and Moon placements you love to see in synastry?
Hey baddie!🤍
This is so cute tbh I cant-😭 Where do i even start-
Favourite Venus/Moon
🦋synastry placements🦋
for more posts like this, check my masterlist I and masterlist II luvs🤍
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Venus in 5H
More than anyone else, when it comes to relationship I've always been a big fan of fixed house synastry/composite. Venus in 5H however has its own story.
One of the most powerful combinations for romantic and sexual attraction. Marriage would be for the sake of love, not for the sake of money or prestige. Think Romeo and Juliet.This placement brings a great deal of contentment and romantic fulfilment. While the aspects to Venus in this contrast are complicated, it does not lessen the romantic tendency displayed.
Venus is passionate, daring and everything the 5H person desires. The 5H person feels so tempted by Venus and Venus also feels the same way.
At first, depending on other placements, it could be possible that the Venus was more flirtatious towards the 5H but it is the 5H person that really starts to put in the work. 5H feels drawn to Venus, aroused by them yet initially, 5H was more detached in terms of emotions. However, after some time, 5H person may start to feel an urge to chase&conquer..
One another's best-kept secret, knows things about each other that others wouldn't. As this couple's fingers intertwined and their lips locked, everything is possible. The kind of couple that would do the most spontaneous things with each other. Play fights. Kisses along one's body. The dynamic feels hot and heavy. Sexual experiences is often very exciting and fun.
Opens one another up to experiences they wouldn't dare to. Crossing one another's bucket list goals. Could even be a one night stand type but would always fall for each other every-time they meet up. Friendly warning that when this synastry goes wrong, it will go so so wrong. But at the end, there will always be an unspoken links between these two🤍
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Moon in 11H
Love always come in hand with friendship. Some people often say that we date people who we're supposed to be friends with and stay friends with people who we supposed to date. Moon in 11H can be perfectly described based off that one sentence.
Electric and never platonic. When the couple has this placement in their synastry chart, I can already tell they have potentials to go with one another very far down in life. They care for each other so much yet its more than what casual friends would. They would always have gut feelings about one another. The type of people to finish one another's sentences.
The Moon person is soft and understanding, they are 11H's home and 11H wants to show them off to the world. Pretty public and may stay together for a very long time due the dynamic of a fixed house. Spaces spent without the others are greatly appreciated since the bring them even closer. 11H person is the Moon's ideal type or wishes that come true. 11H feels well taken care of and confide a lot on the Moon person.
In front of each other they don't feel the need to pretend anymore. Their masks are taken down and its the world vs them two. Forehead kisses, playful banters that turn serious. They share their dreams, aspirations and desire to the other person.
While they're inherently such different people, this couple feels like one another's last missing puzzle.
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Venus in 7H
"Who am I without you?" Venus in the 7H in synastry will always have a tension between them that will eventually push them towards each other.
Another aspect that can be pretty big on marriage, the 7H of partnership guarantees the couple to be together for the long haul, esp true if there are even more indicators.
Being in a relationship with each other teach the two a lot about their love nature. Venus is very considerate about their partner's desires and adamant about pleasing them. 7H partner is also trying to satisfy Venus by making the relationship as harmonious, caring, and peaceful as possible. As a result, when the two of them are together, friction is greatly reduced.
7H person feels so drawn to Venus, they can't stop staring. Venus is exciting and everything thats beautiful to them and 7H tends to get so so wholesome next to Venus:") Venus adores their nature and would return with perhaps even more affection.
They actually share very similar love languages and they understand each other's body language pretty well. Conflicts tend to be avoided yet can sometimes become too safe and comfy.
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Moon in 1H
"No words needed. I understand exactly what you mean".
The type of couple that suddenly come together but people will say "finally". The two people that everyone adores and support. Holding hands and walking through forests and trees. They love each other's comfort and yearn for each other's warmth.
One of the rare synastry placements I've seem these days but is very fulfilling. The house person don't just love Moon's sensitivity and emotions, they also love their helpful and profound nature.
Moon person can sometimes feel left out and ignored, will do anything to get their attentions back.
There are so much securities and emotions felt on both sides. Never ending love story. Hard to not get attach. Moon just opens up casually to the 1H person. as they don't feel judged ever.
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Moon in 8H
To love someone is to love their flaws, their worst moments, their ugliest and all. Moon in 8H couples are private people yet also are very passionate towards one another.
Sex bonds them.They share and keep one another secrets so well. 8H sees Moon as their home, with so much depth to them. i'd say that sex between these two can be so life changing. 8H knows the effect they have on Moon so so well and they can't help it but lure Moon in further.
One of the dynamics I'd chuckle if I see apparent in synastry's chart. Their thirst for each other's energy and emotions are crazy.
Either overshare everything or hold back completely. The Moon feel the need to learn&study and truly understand the 8H person. No small talk here. They can either fear each others emotions or take it all in so well.
While I do love the intensity and passion present here, I'm fearful of the jealousy and possessiveness of this placement. 8H will be stubborn to open up at first yet the second they do, the Moon person is theirs and theirs only. Crazy adventures but crazier fights.
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Moon in 4H
The theme of home life and security is always present. They can understand what the others want to say simply by looking at each other and smile. Truest modern romance.
The couple that felt the need to stay friends for some time before they jump into a relationship since they value the others sincerity so much. Brings each other joy, comfort and absolute trust.
Its us versus them. Indeed, may choose to isolate themselves from the rest of the world in order to be alone together in a safe space. Can be surprisingly public with affections yet very secretive about the nature of their romance. Reminds me of that old couple that hold hands in the park while being comfortably silent .
Extremely binding, the two of you will find it extremely difficult to separate. Emotions runs high here and the two must be wary not to become too dependent on one another.
If they can learn to trust and give, the relationship can go for years and years🤍
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Trying something new today:) Thank you for asking such a great question baddie🥳
love,
saint jenx🪐
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ailuronymy · 7 years
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I want to try writing a forbidden relationship better. Do you have any tips to make it feel more real rather than a plot device? I've made the relationship actually look like a good relationship, rather than "we're forbidden, let's love" and making it look like there will be actual consequences other than embarrassment, but do you have anything else?
Hm! This is super interesting but not something I can give a straightforward answer to, because it’s very subjective. What I personally feel could improve a forbidden relationship story isn’t necessarily going to be something other people agree with. It’s also very difficult to tell you how to “fix” problems in this particular vein of genre: there’s probably lots of different ways to approach it (some great, some not so much) and no one-size-fits-all re: what works with your writing style and characters and plot and setting. 
I should also flag that I am a difficult reader, especially when it comes to relationships between characters. Other readers might be happy with something totally different and/or less particular than my taste! Take everything I say with a grain of salt and please keep in mind there are usually always exceptions to the general rule. For example, if someone asked what I don’t like in fiction writing, first-person narration would be one of the first things I’d list–but I’ve also read books with first-person narration that I’ve really enjoyed. It’s all about how to tell your story, really. (Just look at Shakespeare!)
So, anyway. For me, the reoccurring biggest issue in forbidden relationships is that they’re often built on a premise that I don’t buy. A forbidden relationship is only compelling when there is a significant risk that is still outweighed by the benefit of the relationship–i.e., the relationship has to be worth more than death, or arrest, or poverty, or disgrace, whatever the risk is in your story. That’s some enormous initial stakes, because immediately what you’re advertising to the reader is, “Read this story because this relationship is going to be fascinating!” It also announces, “This relationship will be something that is unable to be replicated by any other character dynamic in this world.” What these characters provide for each other has to be unique and addictive enough to both of them to justify their running of the risk and their inability to find that quality in anyone else they know.
This quality may vary greatly between couples, and maybe even between partners in the couple! I can’t tell you what makes your characters need each other, because that’s basically limitless possibilities right there. But I can say that there are some things that, to me, just aren’t compelling enough. Sex is one of them. If physical attraction is the primary reason that the forbidden relationship characters run the risk, I’ll almost surely be bored. Perhaps I’m a little frustrating for more sentimental writers, but “love at first sight” doesn’t get far with me: to care and be invested, I need some level of emotional grip between characters. They have to be genuinely fascinating on their own before I can believe they’re fascinated with each other. I think of it as a major hook–for each character, something about the other is so memorable, so captivating (admirable or infuriating or something else, it’s up to you), it sinks into them and sticks. Then each event of the story and choice the characters make cranks a winch, pulling each towards the other–to continue the metaphor–by that hook. The closer they get, the more tiny hooks about each other they find and the harder and harder it becomes to break away.
Basically, being beautiful, handsome, winsome, ravishing–it’s nowhere near as good for a story as a character being ugly but interesting, in my opinion. You can say someone’s beautiful once and be done with it, but you can spend a whole novel talking about the intriguing parts of a person. (Not to say you can’t be beautiful and interesting, but a lot of the time, describing physical attractiveness becomes a shorthand for... everything else). A lot of forbidden relationship stories fumble this bit. They assume the reader will accept “we’re in love” as a basis for why the characters take the risks, but they don’t actually present an interesting dynamic between the characters that justifies their rule-breaking behaviour. Warriors is especially bad for this: Bluestar and Oakheart spring to mind first, because I can’t actually remember reading a blander, less convincing “romance.” I attribute that, at least in part, to the fact there is no hook for either character: they’re bland, so their relationship is bland. 
Frankly, my feelings re: writing any romantic relationship is that you should approach from the perspective not of “we’re in love,” but “here’s why we love like this,” and sort of prove to your reader the reasons why your characters want and need and care about each other in the individual way that they do. This is a stylistic philosophy on my part, so it might not do for everyone, but I like to think of love not as a passive thing that happens to people but as an actively collaborative attempt to live symbiotically. Which is part of what makes a forbidden–or possibly long-distance, I suppose–relationship such an unusual and potentially fantastic exploration in the romance genre! How do they live together (emotionally, mentally, etc.) when they are forced to be apart physically? 
Since you’ve said you’ve made the relationship into a decent one, forbidden or otherwise, I can’t really think what else would need to be done! Hopefully my long natter is of some use to you, but honestly, if you’re already writing an interesting relationship, I don’t think there’s anything more that you need to think about. If you’ve got more specific questions, feel free to ask and I’ll try to give a more direct answer than whatever this is. Good luck with your writing!
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prettyuncool · 6 years
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The truth I would say on dating apps.
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Being an 80′s kid who’s been in a relationship for most of her adult life, I now feel like the mother of Goodbye Lenin who awakens from her coma: no freaking idea how to deal with dating apps. I tried a few and lasted just for half an hour each. I had fun in Alienation Nation, but I probably wouldn’t live there, you know. My pictures suck, everybody’s pictures suck, everyone’s craving for some validation and how the hell do I even know you’re interesting with those few lines of bio available. It feels like the startup Pecha Kucha pitch of your own Flesh & Mind™, just as finely organized as in a supermarket shelf. I confess I also had some troubles finding any relevant shit to write about myself. The last time I’ve inquired about my own identity so thoroughly I was a teen and the last time I thought I’d use my identity for romantic-marketing purposes was actually never.
So I spontaneously thought we might be very close to a world where we should want to directly pursue what we eventually get from online networks, i.e. disconnection. I’ve imagined the non-dating app for happily staying away from each other, where everybody markets their worse flaws in their own bio’s. I wrote mine too. And then realized it was uncool anyway, because I don’t have a spectacular sense of self-unworth the same way I don’t have a neat sense of self-worth. Damn.
So I thought about the pure, raw truth. And ended up writing a shit-ton of stuff. I’ll share it with you below. Now, find me an app where I could honestly say it. And maybe some equally awkward matches, too.
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I am a wanderer. An astrology nerd. A flea market enthusiast. A gingerbread addict. I am a listener. I own an acoustic guitar which I can't play, but it's nice to have guests who play it sometimes. I love Primitivo wine. Also coffee - but I don't drink it, because it makes me freak out. So let's say I love who loves coffee. Black. No sugar. And craft beers. And dark chocolate. I find this shit so sexy! But it makes me feel sick. So I love it in others. Talking about difficulties we're attracted to, huh? I enjoy moody, underexposed photography. Most kinds of it. I'm too broke to own a proper camera, though. Nevermind. I love weird, indie movies. Bollywood cracks me up. I used to be a decent backpacker. I roamed a lot around Europe. I've been told I have a strong accent from Chicago. That's weird, I've never been there. I find marvels in little things. And in big things, too. I am left-handed. I practice meditation, when I can.
I find sciences and arts equally mesmerizing. I'm a serious meteoropath. I may cry over beautiful things. Like sunrise and kindness. I listen to jazz when I cook. Or Bossa Nova. But I'm a terrible cook. Wild strawberries are my favorite fruit. I never find them around. Normal strawberries make me happy, too. My perfume is Hypnotic Poison by Dior. I never change it. I work in advertising, in the creative department. But I feel guilty about it. I also did cognitive research for a while. Now I may start teaching semiotics of advertising at the University of Italian Switzerland. I find Switzerland majestically boring. But I have sweet memories of it, too. I'm both a cat and a dog type. Yeah, I'm an indecisive person. I often tend to overthink. And also underreact. I used to self-harm. My favorite color is yellow. My least favorite sex positions are cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. I never feel a thing when performing them. But I'm fine with most of the others. Men often tell me I look shy at first, but then I'm surprisingly and overwhelmingly sexy. Dude, I have no idea. I'm sure shy when it comes to singing. So I'm not comfortable at karaoke's. I live in Italy, but I have several dream places: Cape Verde, Morocco, Bali, Pakistan, Canada, Oregon, India, Patagonia. I am slightly obsessed over flower essences. There are so many of them! If I fail at my job, I can become a Reiki practitioner. I could actually already do it. I don't regularly swallow cum. Anal sex is fine, as long as it doesn't last too long. My shortest relationship lasted one month and a half, my longest one lasted 14 years. I am attracted to different types of people, with typically recurring features: resilience, emotional agility, curiosity, general culture, effective problem-solving skills. But I am also attracted to more superficial shit, like beards and travel experience, driving ability, cooking skills, basketball playing skills, good taste in wine and stuff like that. I used to fall for rebels, now I just find them funny. I've had several crushes, but fell in love only twice. Both of them used to smoke the same brand of French cigarettes. Curious coincidence. I find emotionally unavailable people ridiculously unworthy of my attention. I have experienced death, illness and loss of loved ones. So I value people's ability to suffer quite greatly. I've never got pregnant, but I used plan B twice. I'm not on the pill, so wear a fucking condom. Tash Sultana's music makes my soul vibrate wild. Other than that, I'm into intimate acoustic indie pop/folk and various kinds of dreamy tunes, more or less. I have unresolved mother issues. Some unresolved daddy issues, too. Whatever. I'm working on it. I definitely can't draw. And my sense of orientation sucks. I am also generally unimpressed by trends. This makes me feel so old. I am often uncomfortable around kids, but deep inside I love them. I may want to become a mother one day, but now is just not the right time. I'm neither a morning person, nor a night one. Let's just agree I'm fucking lazy. I'm a playful type, who may look codependent in love. But I normally lead a very independent life. I wouldn't call myself jealous, either. Yeah, lucky you.
I have a weird fascination for ex-Soviet republics. I wholeheartedly enjoy sex, but I've also experienced sexual harassment and some abuse. So please, be mindful. I love French, Indian, Japanese, Lebanese and generally Mediterranean cuisines. Saffron is probably my favorite spice. I'm a social drinker. I used to smoke weed, but stayed high for four days in a row every time I tried. That made me feel miserable! But if you smoke, that's fine for me. I am a feminist, but I wish it didn't make sense to be one. My sexual orientation is often under debate. I've never had a doubt I liked men, but I sometimes also had crushes, physical attraction and some intimate experiences with women, too. This doesn't always happen, though, so I honestly don't know if I should label myself as bisexual. Frankly, I don't really care. l'm 5'28" and weight about 106 lbs. I have no STD's, genetic illnesses or physical disabilities. I'm myopic, if that counts. My family has a history of breast and cervix cancer, though, so I should be careful. I was born premature, three months in advance. I love reading as much as I enjoy writing. I used to collect crystals, but then I stopped. They're too expensive and often fake. I'm slightly more extrovert than introvert, at least according to personality tests. That's because I'm curious and inquisitive AF. Other than that, I'm pretty quiet. Also easily overstimulated. I've been raised catholic, but I don't recognize myself as one. I deeply respect spirituality in others, though, and I'm craving a religion that makes sense to me. I believe political orientation is mostly a matter of historical and cultural context, but I may have troubles speaking with you if you support any type of institutionalized human submission over others, in any possible world. I also strongly believe that Truth is never relative, but opinion is. That was unrelated, but I find it super fundamental anyway.
I don't consider myself special. I am a very average person. I find peace on sandy beaches. And I love collecting shells from the shore. It reminds me of my childhood.
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