#tw: mental illness minimized by Hollywood

[shallowseeker]

Dean as god theories are just “eh” to me.

Tw for hollywood portrayals of mental illness and religious paranoia

thought experiment

I’m not saying it’s bad, it’s just, if we’re gonna go that symbolic, it’s not as compelling to me as Sam as the pseudo-primary “god/personality” and Jack as the maybe true primary “Hunter Heroici type of hidden god” perhaps Amara as the “traumagenic deep god” in a sea of non-integrated emotional and symbolic manifestations (that may or may not be complex manifestations of his past).

(And Chuck is based on the for-profit sleazeball using the recordings of trauma/case notes in connection to parallels, mirrors, fate etc to invite his pulp readers to perceive things a certain titillating way (“false god”). ) “Writers lie.” He’s also an advocate of fusion/integration, which is very outdated and traumatic for some systems.

Chuck’s book series is an indictment of the audience, especially the ones who know no real trauma (Hunger Games-coded Capitol), as much as it is a triumph of the audience using it to work through their own trauma (like perhaps Becky). I would say something about Sybil here but it makes me feel icky. I feel like the controversy is relevant for Chuck though. “Sylvia” (Sybil) appears in season 15 in Gimme Shelter. And I’m not convinced they weren’t covertly pushing this tired “gotcha.” And Chuck well…Chuck Shurley (Shirley Mason) was a bit on the nose.

From Nihilism

Please, you have to -- you have to try to remember, because the people in your life -- in your real life, out there -- we need you to come back.

The anti-possession tattoo is a metaphor to ward off the family illness. It’s why individual growth and integration of characters like Chuck and Amara are threats to the universe. It’s why the “healthier” Sam gets, the more “the people” die. It’s even why Dean died.

It’s why Dean protected him from everything, even from dad.

It’s why Cas can “shift” Sam’s trauma to himself.

It’s why “I’d never put anything ahead of you!” in Dean and “Nothing is worth your life, Sam!” in Cas. It’s why Jack choosing Cas as his “father” is heartbreaking.

It’s why Jack is Sam, another doomed child. It’s a manifestation of, “If I’d had Dean and Cas back then, it would’ve gone right for me.”

It’s why angels, possession, and angel radio.

It’s why season 8 Sam’s delusion was Amelia and Dean’s delusion was Benny (Shadow selves and longing.)

It’s why that random gym guy says, “You said you’d protect us!” to Cas is episode 2 or 3 of season 15. Sam is blaming Cas for not protecting him-them-Jack.

It’s why Dean says to Cas in script, “I put on you what I couldn’t take.”

It’s why we.

It’s why hunting. It’s why the initial two monsters look like Sam and Dean in 15x20 and why it just feels more like serial murder here. Maybe even unaware/bitterly motivated murder to destroy that family’s perfect life that they can never have, and why Sam-Jack kill Dean here. It’s why the dad was drained of blood…and Sam’s bullet was soaked in a dead man’s blood.

It’s why when Mary died she said to Cas in flashback, “they were never alone.”

It’s why Lucifer says, “Sam’s different,” when referencing how people come back from the dead “not themselves.”

It’s why Jack makes the empty “loud.”

In this approach, Gods don’t often interact with their stories, and when they do, they have to leave to get back to their “real” words is the ableist implication.

That’s why Jack “takes himself out of the story” and sends everyone to their respective ends (death, the empty).

Its why, like a child looking at their caretakers, Sam didn’t figure out Cas and Dean for so long. One might argue he even judged them in bouts of religious paranoia. It’s why Sam concocted a confession in a dungeon in his mind, with Dean disallowed from speaking. Sam unlocked that they were a family but seeking their happiness was what killed them.

It’s why the rest of the story is Sam making peace with the people who already died long ago. And finally making peace with his figment of Dean.

​I prefer that Chuck is a god that won and wants it to seem more meaningful so he copied a bunch of edgelord takes from well known pop psych books with little insight into psychiatric conditions, and he just pats himself on the back. He’s a powerful singularity obsessed with monotheism and integration and he simply ate Jack, as evidenced by the charming acres style shots in 15x19 and the gloating nature of the dad being stabbed like Cas and the mom’s tongue being cut out in 15x20. It’s why they drained the dad’s blood and cut out mom’s tongue (callback to fridged Mary, mute Dean).

I mean you could argue they’ve always been sacrificing people to father-god and that creates a sort-of…god complex. But honestly in that case Sam is still sacrificing Dean at the end here, sending him somewhere he can “be happy” and “not hurt anyone anymore.”

But thing is…. ANY story could be framed as a complex delusion with main characters functioning as Demi-gods and chosen ones. It’s…not a novel take or a particularly compelling one.

So really… 15x20 is… Chuck rebooted the universe…with different rules of perspective. He sharpened the genre to be more rigidly psy-pop horror. Or, if he’s going by “Jack” now, he’s infected the SPN with reality in the same way Sam and Dean infected ScoobyDoo.

It’s stripped of the meaning of family. Chuck has found a new spin to explain the nature of story as delusion and a new theory of everything. This may be Chuck's new pitch. The ommitted scenes are purely manipulating reality to sell Chuck's new idea. We can always go edgier and darker...and soon we'll have a bigger HBO style budget!

#tw: mental illness #tw: mental illness minimized by Hollywood #tw: did #hollywoodification of personality systems #Sam and the dog as spectre of ghosts and loss #Dean may have been real at one time but it’s equally fascinating that spn may have been Sam working through why Dean #tw: suicide #pop psychiatry #speculative #it’s right there right down to Cas shifting the burden from Sam to his own mind #down to Dean taking the brunt of the emotions and protecting sams mind #for the record I don’t think it’s good #it’s actually pretty damn ableist #sigh #which is why I tend to stay away from the hypothesis #but Dean as god is popular in this really angry judgmental way #and it’s just…not what they were going for #Dean getting the anger and the emotion is very Sybil and I hate that tbh #I just feel like if you GO there you kinda have to go THERE #and Sybil commercialization did so much damage to the subject #tw: Sybil #they got too meta about that particular topic imho #I prefer the mindfuckery of an angry gif trying to make them think they’re not real tbh #they are punished for making deals to keep their family with them and that sucks tbh #15x20 carry on #15x20