#turnabout trump is great and i love turnabout corner!!

[metalkitty21]

Apollo Justice

just finished Apollo Justice and what a game! Even while going into it with some knowledge it was still such an exciting and enjoyable game!

So you guys get to suffer with me going into details about my thoughts of the case /hj

all details under cut!

Case 1: Turnabout Trump

I went into this case knowing that Phoenix was the defendant and that was it. Kristoph was such a dick in the best way possible and probably my favourite villain of ace attorney. He's such a villain, even in just this first case. Phoenix is a good defendant, Payne is...well Payne, and Trucy is adorable and no one can stop me from loving her. Olga is a great witness. She goes from adorable Russian gal to a fucking pirate, what else do you want in a gal?

Case 2: Turnabout Corner

Worst case of the game, but not horrendous. The mixture of the a murder and theft is a cool idea, I don't know the panty aspect of it wasnt completely needed. Wocky is probably my favourite defendant of the entire game. He's a goofy goober who just loves his fiancé and didn't know he was dying. I was so happy when he appeared in credits enjoying life with his family to the fullest. Eldoon was brilliant, despite the pun name, he was a fun guy, with a dog called Spoon, a mascot called Salty and gave me the betray of the century when he took the ramen wig off. Anita(?) was an okay villain. Nothing special. Stickler didn't ruin the case, but he made it a little hard to deal with at times. Ema's return was nice, but this was my first experience with her since I never played Rise from the Ashes. The forensic stuff was fun and she ended up being one of my favourite characters! Klavier is golden! He takes the cake for the gayness introduce in Ace Attorney history and just flirts with Apollo the entire game and I fucking love this man to no end.

Case 3: Turnabout Serenade

I went into Serenade knowing a lot, like Machi wasn't blind, it was Lamroir who was, I even knew Daryan was the killer. Yet this case, despite all the hate it gets, is my absolute favourite case of this game. The events happening with the lyrics is such a good concept and execution so well. Daryan was a pretty good villain, and his murder attempt on Lamroir was unexpected ans I like they included it. Machi was a bit meh honestly. Lamroir though, she was great. Such a good character with all the twists and turns and just a character as a whole she's amazing! (We'll get back to her) the mixing board was a tad annoying at times but hunting through to find the gunshots while Lamroir was singing was such a good choice to make.

Case 4: Turnabout Sucession

In trust AA fansion, the final case is brilliant, but sometime holds it back and we'll talk about him last. The case seven years ago was absolutely painful to do because of the knowledge the evidence was forged. Zak was fun, baby Trucy was extra cute, FUCKING GUMSHOE, Valent is probably one of my favourite characters because of this case, he's such a good character. The incident was Thalassa is honestly heartbreaking and that fact she's fucking ALIVE AND LAMROIR is such a good twist (which I called because I'd seen Trucy's mother before and thought Lamroir looked similar) but a good twist nonetheless. Valent was fun in Serenade and was even more fun in Case 4. The actual case for Case 4 thought was great. Being a ploy by Kristoph that ended up because delayed seven years because Vera wanted the stamp was brilliant and actually made a lot of sense. Klavier broke my heart, and Kristoph breakdown was satisfying as fuck. the MASON system was so fun, my part part of the case. It was confusing at times, but I'm also stupid, so. Hopping between past and future and having it explain by a camera in Phoenix's hat is such a good explanation. Yet...

spark Brushel...ruined everything. he's a bad character and not a fun witness at all, but he would have been manageable if he stayed in the first day of the court BUT HE KEEPS COMING BACK AND IT FUCKING SUCKS

Overall View

It's a great game! Would recommend! Apollo, Trucy, Klavier, and Valent are probably my favourite new characters from AJAA Case rankings are Case 3, Case 4, Case 1, Case 2. Favourite defendant is Wocky, closely fellowed by Vera and Zak. Guilt love fucking slaps

#ace attorney #apollo justice #ace attorney apollo justice #ajaa #aa4 #ajaa spoilers #aa4 spoilers

[spiritofjustice]

after playing a couple cases in Dual Destinies and finishing Apollo Justice i've consistently found i like cases everyone hates and hated cases people loved.

i fucking hate Turnabout Trump but i really like Turnabout Serenade and Monstrous Turnabout. i agree with most people about Turnabout Corner though, aside from Wocky who was great

also, i do not fucking understand why people hate Monstrous Turnabout. it fuckin slapped. it was honestly really great. i can see why people thought the antagonist was weak but he was funny as hell and it works for me.

#psy's no punctuation posts #aa tag

[queenlua]

Ace Attorney case tier list

so, in the past year, i finished replaying games 1 through 5 for the first time in forever, and also played game 6 for the first time ever

so here’s where i ruthlessly rank each of the cases based on that most scientific metric of all, My Opinions:

OPENING CASES

S-tier: Turnabout Trump (4-1).  I already knew this case, and I still gasped with surprise when Phoenix showed up, and when Kristoph showed his true colors, and when Apollo realized OH SHIT OH FUCK I REALLY AM ACCUSING MY BOSS OF MURDER HUH... what a wonderful, splashy, shockingly concise case to open up the post-O.G. trilogy world.  Marvelous.

A-tier: Turnabout Memories (3-1).  Seeing Mia Fey (finally!) in action is a long-awaited delight; seeing Phoenix being a total dumbass was an unexpected-yet-perfect and fitting delight.

B-tier: The First Turnabout (1-1).  Solid lil’ case with some conventional-but-well-executed humor.  I’ve got a soft spot for Larry Butz.

C-tier: The Lost Turnabout (2-1), The Foreign Turnabout (6-1).  The former’s fine but a little forgettable; the latter has some fun gags (Payne’s ridiculous new outfit, dude absolutely shredding on the mandolin, etc) but is marred by how uh... kinda silly the game’s core conceit is, lol

E-tier: Turnabout Countdown (5-1).  The context surrounding this introduction is just sloppy (badly handled in media res + let’s lowkey retcon game 4 isn’t a great setup), and also the case itself is just. irksome. ted tonate is just fundamentally irritating to look at

FINALE CASES

S-tier: Bridge to the Turnabout (3-5), Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4).  No explanation needed.  God they fuck so hard

A-tier: The Cosmic Turnabout + Turnabout for Tomorrow (5-4 + 5-5), Turnabout Succession (4-4).

The former two cases are what makes AA5 worth it, and they make for a tremendously fun ride.  It fumbles the execution in some notable ways (Apollo’s sudden j’accuse moment feels a little forced/awkward/inadequately foreshadowed, and damn it sure would’ve been nice to know Clay Terran at all before he died, and also The Phantom’s final meltdown could’ve used a bit more emotional heft)... but okay let’s be real, I’m here for Simon Blackquill, and this case gives me so much of him so who gives a shit.  (And Aura!  Condescending obnoxious engineering queen!  I love her!)  

As for Turnabout Succession... while I earnestly wish the game had explored more of Klavier’s feelings about this whole setup, and some more emotional beats for Apollo, the case still makes for such a satisfyingly twisty and fun investigation overall (the poison stamp! what a ridiculous murder method! I love it!) that it’s a more-than-worthy finale.

B-tier: Turnabout Revolution (6-5), Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4).

The former does some cool stuff—I particularly like the opening half, where Apollo’s being real snippy and coping with Frankly Bizarre Dad Feelings, and giving Apollo a chance to finally throw down against Phoenix is a blast.  The latter half of the case starts feeling a little... ridiculous? cramped? idk? like, they didn’t do nearly enough foreshadowing about Nahyuta’s whole deal for me to care about his drama, this justice system is so obviously silly and the manner in which the revolution is playing out strains my already-suspended-sky-high disbelief... fun, and flashy, but more noise than signal in the last part, I guess.

As for Farewell, My Turnabout: of course I love Edgeworth rolling back into court goin’ through SOME kind of bizarre emotional arc of Hey I’m Totally Healed Now and obnoxiously preaching about Truth TM.  And it’s cool that the game set up a case where you want to lose.  But the net result is a bit strange tonally—it’s trying set up some kind of message about It’s Not Just About Winning, It’s About Pursuing The Truth, but it feels really muddled when that’s combined with Okay But Maya’s Literally Being Held Hostage Like Right Now, Surely A Reasonable Justice System Has A Process For Dealing With This Obviously Complicated Situation, Right?

but also Franziska takes a fucking bullet (how did I forget about that) and then gets to roll in like Ms. Save The Day so, really, lots of good shit here

FILLER CASES

S-tier: Reunion, and Turnabout (2-2), Turnabout Beginnings (3-4).  Look, the first one gives me all the Fey family drama a girl could ask for, and the latter gives me young Edgeworth being a total shit in an obnoxiously shimmery outfit.  The whole enchilada is here

A+ tier: The Magical Turnabout (6-2).  DELIGHTFUL!  MAGICIAN!  SHENANIGANS!  Like you get to guess the trick behind a magic act as part of the case, how fucking fun is that, and also the Apollo & Athena duo’s chemistry is perfect, the villain is a FANTASTIC bastard, and even the bit characters you meet during the investigation are total delights... Probably the best “standalone” case in the series, in that it doesn’t rely on any emotional connections to previous cases (unlike 2-2 and 3-4) to still totally and completely rule.

A tier: Turnabout Samurai (1-3), Turnabout Reclaimed (5-DLC).

For Turnabout Samurai, I remembered before this replay how delightful the TV SHOW STUDIO investigation and actor-fandom stuff was; I had TOTALLY forgotten Vasquez calling in her mob connections to try and wreck you.  What a fantastic villain; what a fun case.

Turnabout Reclaimed is just good solid goofy nonsense.  Probably receives a boost for me in particular because, yeah, Simon Blackquill.  But then again who isn’t giving cases a boost on that account; they are MISSING OUT

B tier: The Stolen Turnabout (3-2).  Ron and Desirée are so great sighs into hands

C tier: Listing roughly in order of preference: Turnabout Academy (5-3), Turnabout Serenade (4-3), Turnabout Sisters (1-2), Recipe for a Turnabout (3-3), Rite of the Turnabout (6-3), Rise from the Ashes (1-5).

Four of these (5-3, 4-3, 1-2, 3-3) are perfectly solid cases; I just don’t love them quite as much as “thievery hijinks” or “Hollywood hijinks” or other such particularly delightful flavors.  Everyone has a favorite flavor of Jolly Rancher and all that.

Rite of the Turnabout is interesting and connected with the larger themes of the game in a cool way, and makes good use of the divination mechanic.  However, the last bit gets twisty enough to actually be kind of confusing, and said larger themes of the game are... kinda hard for me to take seriously... which, yeah, leads to it feeling a little stilted when it really should be singing.

Rise from the Ashes landed awkwardly for me.  I know it was added well after the first game’s release, and it does a good job of continuing some of the cool stuff from that game—it’s neat, in isolation, to see Phoenix and Edgeworth working together (while still sniping at each other!), and some of the DS-specific mechanics are neat.  However, I just didn’t feel like I learned quite enough about Ema and Lana to care about them like I should, and retconning “(almost certainly true) rumors that Edgeworth was involved in Shady Shit TM” into “actually Edgeworth was totally ignorant of Shady Shit TM, like at worst his crime was willful ignorance / incuriosity, he was just been manipulated by the Police Chief”... makes Edgeworth less interesting to me!  Like, it’s cool to see Edgeworth caught off-guard and under pressure, but I wish the circumstances had been different?  Also Gant’s theme song is annoying as shit, which is petty but hey this is my blog post so

D tier: Turnabout Storyteller (6-4), Turnabout Corner (4-2), Turnabout Big Top (2-3), The Monstrous Turnabout (5-2).

Turnabout Storyteller has some fun gags with My Dude Simon and also Taka, but was heavily marred by Everyone Talking Down To Athena The Entire Fucking Case Oh My God Can You All Just Shut Up.

Turnabout Corner has... lots of fun elements but... look the fucking stolen-panties setup just grates ok

I don’t think I hate Turnabout Big Top the way most people seem to, but I did find the final murder setup more annoying that I remembered this playthrough—bro you were really sure the dude was going to conveniently stand right there and the heavy statue was definitely going to strike a killing blow and not just give the guy a concussion?  ok lol

The Monstrous Turnabout suffers mostly from poor puzzle/investigation design, being too hand-hold-y, and also having a core gimmick/setting that just wasn’t really my thing.  Alas!

#ace attorney #obviously these are just opinions. love what u love #but this was entertaining to type up lol

[artemis-enigmar]

Apollo Justice is the Best Ace Attorney Game

But apparently, it’s one of the most debated games in the series? I haven’t seen too much of that on Tumblr, but I still thought I’d show my support for this phenomenal game! (Just to be clear, these are all my opinions, so if you disagree with me, that’s totally cool! Also spoilers for the entire Ace Attorney series)

I should probably start off by saying that I got into the Ace Attorney series in a very untraditional way. I didn’t start with Apollo Justice, or Justice for All, or Trials and Tribulations. I started...with Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright. (Having never played a Professor Layton game OR a Phoenix Wright game, btw) I don’t know what exactly drew me to this game, but I am so, so glad I picked it up, because I loved it. That day I bought it, I played it until 4 am because I was so engaged in the story. The Ace Attorney characters and games have meant so much to me since I first played them in 2014.

I feel like I had a relatively unbiased start with Ace Attorney, because like I mentioned, I started in 2014, when Dual Destinies was the newest game in the series. So after playing the Layton crossover, I consecutively played the AA trilogy, then Apollo Justice, then Dual Destinies in the span of maybe six months. I feel like a lot of people who played Phoenix Wright when it first came out would probably say that (or another one of the OG trilogy) is their favorite game. Not that there is anything wrong with that! But I could see how those players could get really attached to Phoenix and then get upset when the fourth game comes out years later with an entirely new protagonist.

But Apollo Justice...that game is something special to me. I absolutely love the overarching story, the music, the characters...and the plot twist at the end, with Apollo and Trucy being long-lost siblings, blew my mind. Also, the throw-back case to Phoenix’s last trial gave me chills up my spine. I wasn’t expecting that, and I certainly wasn’t expecting to actually present the forged evidence that got him disbarred!!

Of course, the game isn’t without its issues. I’ve heard most people who don’t like this game complain about Turnabout Serenade, and I will admit it could be considered the weakest case in the game. I would personally say that Turnabout Corner is the weakest case, as I found the characters more forgettable. I also feel like Turnabout Serenade does a decent job at setting up the final case, introducing Lamiror and giving us more background info on Klavier. But I can definitely see how people dislike it. The killer is underwhelming, and rewatching the music video can get grating.

But the first and last cases are the meat and potatoes of this game. Turnabout Trump has plot twist after plot twist, and does a great job setting up the overall mystery and villain of the game. Kristoph never comes up much in the middle cases, but boy does he come back to haunt you in Turnabout Succession. The ending is satisfying and sweet, I love that it ends with a sketch of Trucy and Apollo right after you learn that they’re siblings. Turnabout Succession especially gave me an emotional gut punch to rival Turnabout Sisters, Farewell My Turnabout, and Bridge to a Turnabout.

But after such a high for me in Apollo Justice, I’ve had trouble loving Dual Destinies and haven’t even played Spirit of Justice. (That may change, I’m replaying the original four games right now and may replay DD too. Depending on how that goes, I may give SOJ a chance.) I don’t really like Athena. I don’t have anything against her, but it was really jarring to get yet another new attorney after just spending a whole game getting to know Apollo and remeeting Phoenix after losing his badge/becoming a father. Those story lines left me wanting a resolution in DD, and I wasn’t really satisfied with what I got. Apollo didn’t act anything at all like I came to expect him to, and his background story was really underwhelming. (For me, anyway). I also don’t like the 3D models as much, I feel like the 2D ones are so much more charming and have more personality.

To top it all off, Apollo and Trucy still don’t know they’re related! However, I’m wondering if it’s better that their big emotional reveal stays a headcanon, because from what I’ve heard with Phoenix and Maya’s reunion in SOJ, it’s super underwhelming as well. And I would rather have the reveal be a beautiful emotional moment in my mind that a rushed through moment in a future game.

Again, this is all my opinion so do with that what you will. I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts, I’m still relatively new to the Ace Attorney tumblr, and would love to get to know you all!

#ace attorney #apollo justice #phoenix wright #trucy enigmar #trucy wright #anti athena cykes #anti athena