#tra hatemail

[snarltoothed]

Its pathetic how you're trans exclusionary and also bisexual & agender. Do you think that if transphobia continues they're not coming for you next? You think you're safe from being called a freak or a pedophile or from being accused of invading other people's spaces? From legislation and the dominant social paradigm othering you and making your life hell? You think throwing others under the bus will save you? You're a fucking coward and I hope you get a sense of reality.

i totally forgot that you even sent this ask because guilt-tripping from random strangers really doesn’t faze me — sorry!

anyways, umm, it’s pathetic how you’re sending random feminists hate mail over something that is literally not even true! i fully include trans and nonbinary people within my feminism — just not transwomen and nonbinary males because i believe female people of any gender still face challenges, discrimination, and oppression directly related to the sex we were born as!

…which wait, before you tell me intersex people exist, i know that! but intersex disorders are medically sex-specific and binary, and in the extremely rare case that a chromosomal male was born and grew up with entirely female external genitalia (usually as a result of Sweyer syndrome), i’m fully open to nuance when it comes to their inclusion within the radical feminist movement, especially given that the trans/qu**r movement has repeatedly ignored the requests of both individual intersex people and intersex organizations to stop equating the trans and intersex experience. it’s not like they can turn to you guys for any actual understanding or compassion.

in my LGB advocacy, trans people are also not excluded based on their gender identity! the only people excluded from my LGB advocacy are heterosexuals — which yes, i’m sorry, i do live in the real world where sexuality is based on actual physical sex, so yeah… “transbians” and “gay transmascs” are generally excluded (those open to or exclusively T4T aside) on the basis that they do not experience same sex attraction. but if you’re not straight, congratulations! my LGB advocacy is also for you.

the “agender woman” in my bio is also mostly a joke, “agender” more as in “atheist” — i do not subscribe to the belief system of gender. although, if i did, that’s probably still how i would describe myself because even if i thought that innate gender identity was a thing for other people, i don’t have one. i don’t identify with femininity. i do identify with my lived experience of being female. idk how else i would explain that in your community without being scalped, lol. and it’s poking a little bit of fun at my teenage self for actually genuinely telling the more micro-label oriented of my peers that the best i could describe myself was as a “demibisexual agender girl”.

if anything, though, the people standing in my way of being freely truly agender and living as a woman are BOTH conservatives and the trans/qu**r movement, because i really don’t want to have to have an ideological argument with either of you about what the fuck my leg hair means, i don’t want to be assigned a non-woman for having body hair and not being extremely feminine by EITHER of you! you are both supporting a dominant social paradigm which others me and women like me, it’s only the way in which you shame me and make me feel like a freak that differs.

i’m fully aware how the American political parties have lumped very separate issues into the same bills and are practicing other nefarious political schemes to remove womens’, childrens’, and LBG peoples’ rights by using the decrease in public support of the trans/qu**r movement to pass bills and laws that otherwise wouldn’t be passed… because y’all keep supporting fucking pedophiles? maybe stop doing that or if you personally aren’t, tell your buddies that trans people can be horrific criminals, just like any other subset of people, because all individuals are different, and murderers and rapists and pedophiles don’t deserve public support even if they’re trans. the fact that the most vocal of the trans community keep defending and supporting convincted pedophiles, rapists, and other dangerous violent criminals simply on the basis that they are trans is a large part of WHY many of us “cis” LGB people are publicly separating ourselves from the TQ+, we know how bad that shit looks and have historically condemned the members of our own communities who have been revealed to be pedophiles and rapists. not to mention the fact that the heterosexual TQs are like, wildly homophobic.

pretending outright that trans people cannot be violent criminals is something that can and rightfully should be criticized — i would criticize the assertion that any protected minority class status makes a person immune to any sort of violent criminology, or otherwise not deserving of facing consequences for committing violent crime, especially sexual violence against children, including the minority classes i belong to. i’m certainly not against trans people recieving proper legal defense, and i believe trans people deserve the same presumption of innocence as anyone else until proven guilty in a court of law… and while i do not believe males belong in female prisons (as inmates OR staff, tbh), i do believe that prisons in general are in desperate need of reform and that that reform should be considerate of the needs of vulnerable male populations such as transwomen and gay men for safety from other men while also maintaining female-only prisons.

i don’t know what you expect me, a poor & disabled woman living in a northern democrat-controlled state, to do about the shady shit happening in Florida and elsewhere in the American south. i’m not even in a position to vote on anything that could be considered “throwing other people under the bus”. the biggest things i’ve voted for were keeping the state democratic, legalizing weed, and protecting the right to abortion. i’m sooo politically evil and throwing so many people under the bus and totally perpetuating a genocide… which i guess if you’re a conservative you could say about the fetuses, but, since you’re barking up my tree for siding with conservatives, i’m hoping that you’re at least fucking pro-choice.

I’m not trying to be mean here, but you kinda came up in my inbox being mean first… so frankly I think you’re the coward for not thinking independently and for needing to harass women who do, and I hope YOU gain some sense of reality, as well as empathy and nuance.

#r #asks #tra hatemail #like… dude i really don’t want personal beef with you #i am genuinely sorry for having to get a little harsh… but you came at me with that energy first #if you have any questions or would like to discuss anything i’ve said further i’m fully open to that #however i’d far prefer the tenor of the conversation to be respectful

[researchgate]

kill yourself terf

If words (misgendering) is violence, then telling someone to kill themselves sure is also violence. I thought you we're the sweet, innocent, never-do-wrong cinnamon rolls. Apparently you're just garbage.

#tra receipts #f: other #asks #anonymous #✨ hatemail ✨

[suesylvesterf]

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Radical feminism vs TERF vs SWERF vs Political Lesbian (x)

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Beth Rep defames trans woman, gets followers to find and threaten her (x) (x) (x)

Kate Scottow convicted for creating multiple accounts to persistently publish trans woman's financial and medical information on twitter (x)

Posie Parker & fellow TERFs interrupt a BLM protest (accompanied by fascist white men) and yell in black women's faces (x) (x)

Julia Beck protests the Equality Act on behalf of anti-gay republican senators (x)

Lisa Littman does literally everything in her power to ensure her ROGD study returns the results she wants (x)

Women's Liberation Front (WoLF) and their love affair with right wing groups including the Heritage Foundation and Alliance Defending Freedom (x) (x)

WoLF denounces multiple human rights groups including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the Southern Poverty Law Center (x)

Fair Play For Women publish methodologically unsound research to get the "41% of trans women in UK prisons are sex offenders" figure (x) (x)

Women and Girls Scotland publish methodologically unsound research to make it look like there is no public support for trans rights (x)

ReSisters Liverpool members attempt to pretend satirical "TRA" sticker they created is genuinely endorsed by Liverpool University (x)

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1973 West Coast Lesbian Conference - anti-trans radfems disrupt conference to violently attach trans performer & her supporters; (x) 2/3 of attendees vote to include trans women. (x)

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Youth transition is not a phase (x) (x), and the original 80% desister myth is due to flawed old research (x)

Non affirming (conversion) therapy doesn't work, and it's damaging (x) (x)

Youth transition is not recommended for gender non conformity unless the youth actively identifies in a cross-sex way (x)

Treating gender dysphoria like body dysmphoria is medical malpractice (x)

Puberty suppression risks in both the short and long term have been thoroughly studied (x)

Puberty suppression lowers lifetime odds of suicidal ideation (x)

Young trans girls have comparable sexual victimisation to young cis girls (x)

Trans suicide rates are not higher after transition, and the author of the study is annoyed people keep misrepresenting her findings to say that (x)

The lifetime detransition rate is about 2.2% (x)

Trans inclusive restrooms do not increase risk to cis women (x)

Trans people are primarily people of colour (x)

The 41% of trans women in prison are sex offenders figure is bogus (x)

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