#this is why I love javid sm too

[munsons-mutiny]

Let’s talk about the Watch What Happens (reprise) and why Only Davey could’ve sang it.

Like at this point they’re pushing the Katherine and Jack agenda, why shouldn’t she be his inspiration to keep going in this moment???

And the answer is cause she can’t grasp the situation fully!!!

Let me make it very clear that this is Not Katherine slander. I love her. I think this scene highlights the differences in their struggles and upbringing in a really brilliant way.

When she sees Jack wants to quit in this scene she’s so harsh with him. Doesn’t try to empathize with his situation at all, wants him to just buck up and keep going! Because for her, in her situation, with her upbringing, that’s the only way to get anywhere! She wants to be a reporter? Well she can’t listen when she’s told no. She has to push ahead no matter what. She can’t show fear and she can’t show weakness cause she’ll be called a girl like it’s a bad thing and have it used against her. But she doesn’t see her privilege in this! That in coming from a rich powerful family her physical safety can not be put in jeopardy! Her worst case scenario is moving back home and having to deal with her family’s idea of what it means to be a women in this time period. And don’t get me wrong that’s horrible, it would be a terrible and unfair outcome.

But it doesn’t threaten her physical safety!! (Not to say this is true for all women in her position but the show paints a picture that her dad does genuinely love her in his extremely misguided way and we never see him threaten her physical well being or even to stop bank rolling her). She can’t understand that sometimes you need to let a fight pass you by to survive. She doesn’t understand what it really means for Crutchie to be in the Refuge until later. So she pushes hard and it would’ve just ended in a fight where her and Jack miss each other’s points entirely.

But Davey gets it. Maybe not to the extent Jack does, but Jack said it himself Davey’s dads physical safety being jeopardized at work has threatened his whole family’s housing and food security. Something that could’ve been prevented with a union. He knows that this isn’t safe, he fully grasps the danger they’re in, to an extent that Katherine can’t because she’s never threatened by it. Not really. For her and her rich friends she involves this could just be a pet project (she would never view it that way of course) but if this all goes pear shaped all she has to live with is the guilt not the consequences. Her life continues with maybe some delays depending how long her blacklisting lasts.

But for Davey this could be the choice that means they can’t afford food or can’t pay rent. This could be the choice that means Les can’t go to school and his dad doesn’t have a safe place to recover. He gets it, he matches Jack’s fear, but he can’t backdown when they’re making real changes that Jack is having a hard time seeing in the wake of losing Crutchie to an institution that is a large source of his trauma. He needed empathy and hope not an ass kicking and Davey delivered.

Without him that scene would’ve ended with Jack running away a lot sooner and a lot more permanently. Rant over. Hopefully this is semi-well articulated it’s late and I couldn’t sleep til I got this out.

#newsies rant #this is why I love javid sm too #and don’t really ship Katherine and Jack at all #they just have such a sibling ass kicking way of pushing each other #which they both need sometimes!! #but idk not enough empathy for me to ever ship them #the whole antagonistic flirting thing is just not for me #antagonistic besties on the other hand #there’s a reason you don’t send a boyfriend to do a best friends job #jack kelly #davey jacobs #katherine plumber #katherine pulitzer #livesies #watch what happens reprise #newsies #javid #just a lil #mine

[we-are-inevitable]

for the fic title!! i’d love to see your take on “don’t let me in with no intention to keep me” 👀 (a good ol hozier line)

GOOD LORD how did you know this is my favorite hozier song,, it's so good

ok doing another javid one but:

this,, is kind of an interesting one. i don't know if ive ever seen anything quite like it beforehand, but i think we've established that Jack is just Not Great with relationships. he's in love with the idea of love, though; he's a hopeless romantic at heart, and doesn't always think things through.

which is how he gets stuck in a genuinely shitty relationship.

and he really loves this girl, he does, so he stays- but she's awful. she yells at him in public, she's controlling, she doesn't trust him, she hates it when he goes out with his friends- it's horrible, but Jack doesn't really see it. she says she loves him, and Jack has a very warped perception of love. their relationship is somewhat similar to how Jack remembers his parent’s relationship being, too, so he just rolls with the punches. he thinks it's normal and everything is fine.

so, the fic would pick up near the tail end of their relationship. Jack and Mystery Girl have been having a hard time lately; maybe Kath, who was living out of state while in grad school, moves back to New York and Jack spends a lot of time with her, since they were childhood friends and he misses her. Jack's girlfriend doesn't like this. they argue, they fight.

at the end of it all, jack shows up on Davey's doorstep with a bruise on his face, a small bag of his things, and a cracked phone screen.

i kind of like the idea of this being the first time we see Davey in the fic, too. Davey is Jack's best friend, has been for years, but Jack's girlfriend hated him and didn't really want Jack to see him, so it's... been a while since Jack actually got to see and talk to him, but Davey lets him come in, and Davey lets him stay, because Davey is a saint and it's exactly why Jack knew coming here would be safe.

and obviously Davey has been worried out of his mind for Jack. he's watched Jack become a shell of the guy he used to he; he's not as loud and energetic anymore, because his girlfriend thought it was annoying, and he doesn't paint or sketch much anymore, because his girlfriend thought it was annoying, and instead of being the sarcastic asshole with a heart of gold that Davey knows and loves, Jack is now the ultimate people pleaser. it's so obvious that he's been broken down and he's really lost himself, and Davey hates it. he knows that it isn't his responsibility to """fix""" Jack, and Jack constantly refuses his help because he doesn't want to be a bigger burden than he already is- but Davey is dead set on helping Jack through this. Davey is right there for him through the entire ordeal.

i think the rest of the fic would be very introspective and therapeutic; Jack unpacking what happened and trying to get over this, admittedly pretty long, relationship that he had with his girlfriend. i think there would be a moment, to, when he realizes the abuse that he put up with-- i'm imagining a mundane scene, like him brushing his teeth in the morning, when it all hits him and he realizes that Oh. Oh, Wait, She Treated Me Horribly. Oh No.

cut to Davey walking in on Jack having a breakdown in front of the bathroom mirror bc i'm a slut for bathroom breakdowns <3

ANYWAY this is getting long, so: the fic is more about Jack coming to terms with the way he was treated, but as time goes on, and as Davey helps him through everything and helps him get back on his feet, Davey and Jack realize that they ,, work pretty well together, especially living together. their relationship naturally progresses over time, but Jack is paranoid that Davey might not want him or might get rid of him (like Jack’s ex), so he tries being this perfect version of himself and that puts pressure and strain on everything and it's-- yeah, not a good time for Jack, but Davey takes everything in stride and helps Jack build up his confidence again while also helping Jack trust in relationships again.

"don't let me in with no intention to keep me" in this case is basically describing Jack's inner monologue surrounding his relationship to Davey !!!

GOD i loved this sm, thank you for sending this in !! ilysm kath this was so fun

#i know a lot of people write about jack having trouble with relationships #and i think that once he finds a relationship that lasts longer than a month #he would ABSOLUTELY do everything to justify the way he's being treated. even if he knows better #bc he's wanted a relationship that *works* for so long and now he has one !! but hes actively being hurt and he just. ignores it #well no he doesn't ignore it. he just thinks its okay because Yeah he probably deserved it. #Yeah she's probably right i'm too loud. Yeah she's right i spend too much time with the boys. Yeah i shouldn't want alone time from her #Yeah its okay if she slaps me around a bit because i was kind of being an ass by wanting to go somewhere without her. #jack ties his self worth to whoever he's dating at the time and she absolutely uses that against him :( #i also really loved this bc i've seen a lot of m×m fics that deal with abusive relationships #and obviously a lot of m×f abusive relationships are portrayed in media a lot #but it's never the female doing the hurt? and i think looking into that with jack would be really interesting #thanks for letting me rant !!!! #newsies #jack kelly #davey jacobs #david jacobs #javid #javey #tw abuse #tw abusive relationship