#the rolin jonestown massacre

[monstersinthecosmos]

I have no intention of watching the new IWTV show, but I was wondering why you think Armand's characterization was so bad. I kinda hated how Antonio Banderas played him in the 1994 movie (not on its own, just in comparison to the books - I feel like his personality/demeanor was totally different), so it's sad that they still haven't gotten him right... Judging from pictures alone, I did think the casting for him was more fitting this time. Anyway, just curious to hear your thoughts!

Oh man!!!!!!!!! I do wanna say up front, I think Antonio was NOT A GREAT ARMAND but I like those scenes in the movie so much because they feel SO RICEY to me. Like I LOVE Movie!Armand even though he isn't Book!Armand, and if you read IWTV in good faith it's the only book that doens't harp on Armand looking like a smol uwu cherub so like ! SURE. He definitely still brings the calm nurturing mentor vibe in a huge way and the scenes in his room feel the most like the books to me.

I also know from the director's commentary that they specifically wanted Armand to look like that so that the Europe vampires would feel like OLD WORLD SCARY vs like, another twink lol. So he's got a little more of a tropey Dracula vibe going on and I think like as a visual contrast it works really well.

As far as the show; I think Assad is EXCELLENT. And like the whole fandom was joking even when the credits hit IMDB that it was gonna be Armand because everyone was like "OHH ARRIGHT.. LOUIS'S """""ASSISTANT"""""" OKAY !" so like I was one of the conspiracy theorists looking for clues the whole time. And his MANNERISMS are dead on and gave him away before anything else did. I have zero issue with the actor, I think he's so spooky and a complete smokeshow which Armand DESERVES. And I wish I could like the show for him, I really do! But it's just NOT WORKING FOR ME.

I'll put the rest under a cut cause it got lengthy and I'm not trying to like be a downer on anyone's dashboard but TLDR the show is so completely unrecognizable to me and I think it would've been so much better as an original concept, and personally I'm not excited by randos who share names with the books I read. The show is a hit! People really like it! But idk like showing me these two random ass men and saying "Hey this is Daniel and Armand" doesn't excite me because the story they're showing me actually ISNT Daniel and Armand lol. I'm here for the story!!! I'm not here for Easter Eggs!

Here's my main few gripes with how they wrote Armand which I find mega disappointing:

He spends 6.9/7 episodes pretending to be Louis's assistant named Rashid. WHY! LOL. Why would he do that! DANIEL DOESN'T REMEMBER HIM ANYWAY SO WHY???????? I DONT UNDERSTAND. Like Armand is a weirdo but is he THIS WEIRD? idk. idk.

The show also (in my opinion!) horrifically botched Lestat, but there's like this grain of doubt because the show has a theme of memory being unreliable, so the speculation is that maybe Armand planted a skewed version of events in Louis's head? Even the show runner sort of hinted at this? LIKE I HATE THIS?? Because if we get to S2 and it turns out that Lestat's been misrepresented, it then turns the tables and makes it that ARMAND is the one who's horrifically botched????? Like I'm all for silly Armand jokes and memes and whatever but like. sigh idk i just looked really forward to this show and hoped to see Armand on screen and I didn't really want a meme version of him. ((Also as an aside I really dislike the unreliable memory themes on the show the way they're presented because like the books frame unreliable narration as like interpretive and emotional but the vampire lore canonically is that they have like mega supernatural photographic memory? idk. If memory is faulty because they still have that human fallibility it's one thing unless they're saying Armand planted memories in Louis's head??? idk idk.))

And like speaking towards whether or not Armand is a person who would plant false memories in Louis's head; I concede that he psychically influenced Louis to join him in IWTV but like. ARMAND IS A NUANCED CHARACTER WHO ACTS FROM A PLACE OF NEED AND HURT. And idk it's just so fucking clunky I can't imagine the manipulation taking this type of shape. There's just, to me LOL, a huge difference between the mental nudge of "You are lonely and you need guidance please come with me" and "Lestat was a horrific domestic abuser." And like. idk. Just within the package of the whole rest of the season, this team has the subtlety of dropping a fucking piano so I just have no trust in them to write him with any sense of nuance.

AND THE BIGGEST OFFENSE THAT I'M JUST COMPLETELY DISGUSTED BY IS THAT HE'S A DAYWALKER?????????????????????????????????????????????????

I just hate the daywalking shit so fucking much I can't even start. Like the show changes a lot of the lore which is fine whatever it's their show change lore if you feel like it whatever but like. ARMAND'S ENTIRE LIFE IS THEMATICALLY BOOKENDED BY DARKNESS. He grows up in a CAVE. He lives in a CULT BENEATH A CEMETARY. He tries to KILL HIMSELF by GOING INTO THE SUN.

Like. And he's only 500? That's like adolescent for a vampire LOL.

There were a couple times in the season where they had some continuity errors on the show!lore so I got the vibe that the writers didn't really care about all the VAMPIRE STUFF which is kinda disappointing to me bc I'm a nerd lol but it felt like they used Armand in the sun to just give the audience a red herring and it came across as really cheap to me. So I wouldn't put it past this team to kinda be like DAYWALKING SURE LOL and not really take it seriously or think about the larger picture of how that unfolds for the character over more seasons.

IT'S WHATEVER, I JUST. I know it wouldn't make good television but I like VC because it's like existential dread and consuming darkness, I want it to hurt me, I want it to feel bleak, I want Armand's entire arc to be about how much he struggles with the idea that there's no God. It just feels like if you can make it a few centuries and be able to withstand the sun, what's the fucking point? What sacrifice did you make for being immortal? Especially for a character like Armand who so fully believes himself to be damned and would never want to make another vampire, would never subject even an enemy to it.

Especially bc like in the show the vampires can like ? Smoke? And have sex? And they can eat food (even though it tastes like paste but they can eat food). IF YOU CAN SMOKE AND FUCK AND GO IN THE SUN YOU'RE JUST A GUY. Where's the fucking DAMNATION OF IT ALL? Also what's the fucking point of Those Who Must Be Kept if you can go in the sun lol. I just . Ugh what a clusterfuck.

The show turns vampirism into more of a power fantasy than the way the books treat it as damnation or a symbol of being othered so it doesn't really mesh with like, my idea of VC and what I want out of it.

So Armand being a daywalker = Instant Nope From Me. I'm not interested in whatever they're trying to sell me lol.

A few other things that are NOT confirmed but generally just giving me the ick that I worry about:

I really, really, deeply, truly, hated how they wrote Claudia's character and how they wrote about rape, and that gives me a really bad feeling about how they'd potentially tackle Armand's canon background. The two options are: They don't, and he's a completely different character with a different background, with completely different context for his personality/motivations/etc (in which case who the fuck cares he's just some guy who shares a name with the book I like, and not really Armand), or: They GO THERE and it's just extremely heavy handed and insensitive and not fun to watch. I think show!Claudia maybe has more in common with Armand than book!Claudia because they aged her up to be a teenager so it's just, yikes. THEN AGAIN ARMAND IS NO LONGER A TEENAGER ON THE SHOW?

And to that point like. I don't need a bunch of fucking conservatives getting in my face about how I want to see a teenager sexualized because that's not the point; logistically for TV it makes sense that he's older, but again, it changes his backstory so much. imho, Armand being turned as a teenager and looking like a teenager is a huge element of his character! It's important! It just is! And I'm sorry that the show decided that the vampires could have sex, because they invented this problem for themselves! If they kept the canon lore you wouldn't have to see them have sex anyway LOL.

I also was not a fan of the truncated timeline of the show; season 1 takes place in like 30 years I think? And covers from the beginning of the story until Lestat's murder. And I believe Louis will meet Armand in the 1940s; they have the original interview in the 70s and they're together then, and they're together in the present in 2022. Idk I'm just not impressed; humans can get divorced after 30 years too, what's the point of having immortal characters if you're not gonna stretch out the timeline? And so much happens for Armand and Louis in canon and I have no idea what's happened or not happened on the show yet, no one's really sure which events have happened yet in the present day segments of the show. So like idk there's just a lot of Armand/Louis stuff to be smushing into 70 years lol and I'm bummed that they're rushing through the timeline so much.

So I just. Sigh. There's a lot of themes in VC that I really adore that the show doesn't care about, like being VERY OLD and NEVER SEEING THE SUN AGAIN but. I'm in the minority on this one because people love the show LOL. I'm happy for everyone who likes it, but it's not for me.

And like. Just! I knew going in that it would be the Loustat Show, I think everyone knew that, I didn't have huge expectations for Armand/Daniel content but it's such a small part of the books that like it would've been nice to get a couple scenes or some gifs out of it or whatever. It just sucks that like they SET UP the series in a way that the Devil's Minion won't happen on screen. And it sucks that like, depending how long the show runs for or how long AMC retains the rights, this might be the only chance in my lifetime that I had to see Devil's Minion on screen and it's not going to happen.

It's just a bummer man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry to anyone who likes the show lol I just found it to be like mega disappointing and I don't think I'm going to watch S2, I'm too upset about Armand & Daniel LOL.

#vampire pajama party on amc #the rolin jonestown massacre #<- these are my AMC salt tags if you need to mute or peruse for other disgruntled takes LOL #sorry guys! #adding this tag later re antonio!armand bc i didnt think of it at the time #but i saw the 94 movie directly after reading the book but before reading the rest of the series #so i didnt really notice that he was very different bc i didnt have 17 year old auburn hair botticelli angel in my mind yet #so i always had a neutral/positive feeling about antonion bc my first impression didnt make it a big deal

[monstersinthecosmos]

I think it's really sad that Sam's interviews always come off as this like ~EXTREME LESTAT APOLOGISM~ when he's just like laying out the absolute barest bones of what VC is supposed to be about, and the contrast is only there because RJ fucked it up so bad.

#vampire pajama party on amc #the rolin jonestown massacre #i swear i'll stop talking abotu amc now im just like whew wounded #got triggered by the stupid interview LMAO

[monstersinthecosmos]

imagine name dropping those who must be kept like 15 minutes before saying old vampires are okay in the sun what the FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT god this show was terrible 🤧

#vampire pajama party on amc #the rolin jonestown massacre #why is it so hard for people to understand armand as a character this is absolutely horrific

[monstersinthecosmos]

Rashid can't be Armand please right

like is Daniel even Daniel? Is Louis even Louis? Is Lestat even Lestat? Is Claudia even Claudia? Is Antoinette even Antoine?

Believe me when I say my expectations in the show are dead and buried; for as much as I wanna ask about the circumstances of the interview IF ARMAND WAS THERE THE WHOLE TIME? etc I also gotta ask like, would Lestat behave like this? Does Lestat hate humans? Can Claudia leave and be on her own and therefore the entire drama is not here? Did Paul's death even matter? Why does Louis have vampire powers? Why are they awake during the day? Do they have blood tears or not?

The answer is: It doesn't fucking matter LMAOOOO they're doing whatever the fuck they want! He could be Armand and it would resemble Real!Armand as much as the other characters resemble their own namesakes, it just does not matter lol.

#the rolin jonestown massacre #vampire pajama party on amc

[monstersinthecosmos]

sorry but no honestly who the fuck is that not actually that dramatic ending for? Armand fans don't want this! TV fans don't know who Armand is!!!

???

How are you ending your entire season on the reveal of ✨ SOME GUY ✨

Sorry Loustat fans, sorry Trinity Gate fans, sorry Devil's Minion fans, truly none of us won lmfao

#the rolin jonestown massacre #vampire pajama party on amc #i need a nap im fucking grumpy LMFAO #its bad writing . gif

[monstersinthecosmos]

It feels like RJ is making fun of us. Like, he's insulting us for being fans.

Yeah I mean I felt like them burning the tapes was him saying FUCK YOU to the Anne Rice & the fandom and saying he could tell the story better. It got worse when he had the hero of the series beat the shit out of his husband and then had Claudia (Anne's daughter) raped.

Dude's got the subtlety of dropping a piano.

#the rolin jonestown massacre #but you're right it jsut feels very gaslighty to like #present this story and act like we're being unreasonable for not enjoying it #same goes for the amc stans who have been antagonizing book fans for months #like it's just a stupid tv show you dont have to be an asshole about it LOL but it's okay to be unhappy with what they gaveu s #bc it was not good LOL

[monstersinthecosmos]

I keep being like "god please don't even put Armand on the show" and I know that's naive bc he will show up and I know I'm going to be like unreasonably devastated about it LOL idk how i'm gonna survive HAHA DON'T DO THIS TO ME.

#the rolin jonestown massacre #vampire pajama party on amc #i'm sorry the playboy thing is so upsetting LMAAAAAAO PLEASE REFRAIN! #PLEASE REFRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

[monstersinthecosmos]

I've been a Louis/Armand truther for years and part of me wants to feel validated but like at what fucking cost

#fuck man #cannot put into words how garbage this show was LMAO #like i just #idek #how could you do this #amc iwtv #the rolin jonestown massacre

[monstersinthecosmos]

I cannot even guess what the show has planned for Armand now but I pray it's not the version from the Playboy article because it's nothing like him in the long run.

Like, they can't even get Lestat right and he's the bread&butter, what the fuck do we expect

#is it insensitive if i start tagging AMC as #the rolin jonestown massacre #:( #vampire pajama party on amc

[monstersinthecosmos]

So, Marius is RJ's self-insert?

babe it is TOO EARLY for this

#let me finish my coffee jfc LMAOOOOO #i have like a handful of asks about marius & AMC and i wanna talk about it so bad i just havent like made time yet #i swear i will answer them i just got swamped at work which is when i do all my tumblin LMAO! #like a real adult #fuck LOL stop #i cannot #the rolin jonestown massacre #vampire pajama party on amc

[monstersinthecosmos]

I keep drafting posts about how I dislike the way people in this fandom discuss abuse and after the huge kerfuffle about content warnings for sensitive topics, fandom is decidedly not sensitive about it themselves.

BUT I have this rule for myself that I try to check my posts and make sure I'm complaining about THE THING/THE SOURCE and not about fans & fandoms because I'm aware that it's rude and hurtful and causes drama but idk man this is a losing battle.

#fandom lolitics #the rolin jonestown massacre

[monstersinthecosmos]

but now the cosmos crawls with monsters

KACY. 30s. She/They.

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hi friends! I'm Kacy, I write fanfiction! I like ducks and heavy metal! I mostly use this space to talk about The Vampire Chronicles, but I also like Sheith, and horror films, and kink theory! I am an asexual porn writer and I'm obsessed with Marius!

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