#the ice king

[inbarfink]

When talking about the distinction between Simon Petrikov and the Ice King,  it’s important to remember that originally, the Crown wasn’t trying to turn Simon into Ice King -

It was trying to turn him into this guy.

At the time, the Ice Crown - or rather the Wishing Crown - was programmed with Gunther’s wish to become Evergreen. So everything related to making the current wearer like Evergreen is a very direct result of the Crown’s Magic. The physical changes -

And the obsession with the name ‘Gunther’ -

And maybe some of the irritability and anger issues -

That is something the Crown is very directly forcing unto its current wielder. 

But everything else?

Ice King, personality-wise, was not much like Evergreen at all, or even like Gunther's view of him. And Ice Finn of the Farmworld Universe was also pretty different from the both of them.

At the time, I remember people assumed Ice Finn’s behavior is more indicative of what the Crown is actually trying to do with its wielders. That Ice King is so different because of Simon’s subconscious resistance against the Crown - while Finn’s much younger and dumber brain is a lot susceptible to the Curse’s influence to become some sort of mad world-conquering emperor of ice and snow. 

But, with the context of the Crown’s actual backstory. That doesn’t seem very likely anymore. I think what’s actually happening there is that the Crown is just trying to make its wielder an Ice Wizard on par with Evergreen (who was the Actual Goddam Ice Elemental) and that means pumping the wielder’s brain so full of Magic, Madness and Sadness to a level that is bound to overwhelm anyone.

And Simon’s and Farmworld Finn’s very different behaviors after putting on the crown is indicative, more than anything, of how their psyche reacts to Madness and Sadness in general. You know, Finn has a very proactive and kinda aggressive personality - and you add Crown-induced-Madness-and-Sadness and a compulsion to use Ice Magic as much as possible and you get all of…. this 

Meanwhile, for Simon, the compulsions of the Crown originally filtered exclusively via the language of protection 

As his madness always manifested as romantic obsession 

And using goofy humor to try and deny the pain he’s going through 

Because that’s how Simon’s mind specifically reacts to being flooded with so much Madness and Sadness.

That’s why there’s so many parallels between Ice King and the sort of mistakes and screwed-up stuff Simon does right now! He’s even kidnapping people again!

Because the Madness and Sadness of Ice King might’ve been induced by the Crown, but now Simon has plenty of personal home-grown Madness and Sadness inside him - and it’s no surprise that Curse-Induced or not, his mind reacts to it in a sorta-similar way. (Although obviously not as intensely, again, there was a LOT of MMS in the Ice Crown).

Now as for Ice Thing, and the fact that he seems to be actually rather well-adjusted under effects of his version of the Wishing Crown. I mean... not by the time of the 1000+ Era, but that’s literally eons in the future and also maybe more Gibbon’s fault. Even if the Crown will eventually take some sort of toll on him, for now he seems to be doing pretty well considering his wish. I mean, there's still some sort of Loss of Identity stuff going on

But everything we've seen of Ice Thing (in the present day, at least) shows him as a friendly and cheerful individual that gets along well with others. A far cry from how maladjusted every single wielder of the Ice Crown acted.

At the very least, if there's any notable amount of Sadness in him, we really haven't seen it yet.

There might be several factors here:

First things first, I should acknowledge the possibility that it’s just that Orgalorg’s eldritch brain is better at intaking all that MMS juice. That could play a part, but I think it’s probably more important, at least thematically, to look at the distinction between ‘I wish to be Evergreen’ and ‘I wish to be Ice King’. 

First in the sense that while Ice King was occasionally mean to Gunter at times - he was generally much kinder than Evergreen ever was for ‘his’ Gunther. So, like, pretty much the one Personality Flaw of Ice King that you can directly link to the Ice Crown’s attempt to mimic Evergreen is the occasional anger issues.

And how they relate to Gunther’s view of Evergreen, so grumpy and controlling and constantly saying ‘NO!’

(Both Finn and Simon’s demonstrable not-crown-induced trauma responses can make them pretty short-tempered as well. So I’m not going to say this is purely the effects of the Crown. It still probably plays some sort of factor at why the wielder of the Ice Crown is Like That).

And that is not a factor in how Gunter views Ice King. For him, Ice King was a doting and loving father figure - so if the Crown was ever trying to implement any sort of specific negative personality traits, this is absolutely no longer a factor. Because the original Ice Crown was a reflection of Evergreen’s abuse, and now Ice Thing is a reflection of Ice King’s fatherly love.

Which is, itself, probably an echo or remnant of Simon’s own strong parental instincts. 

Secondly, while the Crown was trying to make the Ice King just as powerful as Evergreen…. Ice King was obviously not as powerful as Evergreen. Because he was already a second-rate copy of the Ice Elemental’s power, and because Ice King was often just too doofy to use his powers correctly and probably because some remnant of Simon’s original sensible self is subconsciously holding his powers back.

Either way, being ‘like Ice King’ as Gunter sees him requires less Magic than being ‘like Evergreen’ as Gunther saw him - and therefore less Madness and Sadness. Leading to the wearer or, um, the eater being a lot more well-adjusted from the get-go.

And I think that the implication that Ice Thing has fused with the Crown, so there's never going to be another poor sap who puts on the Crown and gets Ice King'd. But if there is one somehow... at least the process is going to be less mentally detrimental that time around?

Maybe one day Simon could look back and appreciate how much he (or Ice King, or both of them, or however you want to look at the situation) is responsible for basically neutralizing the Crown that ruined his life in the first place.

#adventure time #atimers #adventure time fionna and cake #adventure time simon #ice king #simon petrikov #simon adventure time #the ice king #fionna and cake #fionna and cake simon #fionna and cake series #fionna and cake show #ice thing #the ice thing #adventure time gunter #gunter the penguin #adventure time gunther #gunther the penguin #Urgence Evergreen #simon and marcy

[kettleghost]

i drew this one a couple of days before episode 8 i fear for them

#my art #adventure time #fionna and cake #simon petrikov #ice king #the ice king #Betty grof #petrigrof #Finn the human #cake the cat #fionna campbell #fionna & cake #marceline #jake the dog

[offline-nobody]

tried to explain adventure time lore to a friend, and experienced this firsthand

#adventure time #simon petrikov #the ice king #the lich #bubbline

[egosarchive]

The iced king 🥶

#fanart #art #adventure time #the ice king #ice king #Simon petrikov #Fionna and cake #distant lands #adventure time art

[tezzaa]

kept reading the original comic in patience's voice. she would do this to him maliciously

credit to @punkitt-is-here for the original!

#adventure time #atimers #at #ice king #the ice king #simon petrikov #patience st pim #tezzart #drugs tw #weed tw

[w1ng-gl0ss]

Has this been done yet

#my art #fiona and cake #fionna and cake #the winter king #winter king #the ice king #ice king #simon petrikov #Fiona #fionna #fiona campbell #fionna campbell #at #adventure time

[driskk]

erm ice king page because he is just a silly guyy

#adventuretime #iceking #the ice king #adventure time #ice king #simon #simon petrikov #hes so silly #gunter

[ebiebii]

i tried a thing

#adventure time #marceline the vampire queen #marceline #simon petrikov #adventure time fanart #comics #the ice king #fionna and cake #my only problem with fionna and cake really is that simon and marcy barely interacted

[youcallyourselfafilmcritic]

The Ice King is so funny to me because they were just like "Oh hey a fun silly ineffectual villain!! How cute how drole! Let's get the Spongebob guy to play him" then a few years down the line it's like "Okay Tom time for your most emotionally gruelling performance ever"

#adventure time #fionna and cake #adventure time fionna and cake #the ice king #simon petrikov #tom kenny #We love a King with *RANGE*

[boonsandwhatever]

have some sad snowmen

#fionna and cake #simon petrikov #simon adventure time #simon petrikov art #the ice king #ice king #the winter king #winter king #ice prince #adventure time #adventure time fionna and cake #fionna and cake episode 6 #my art #this series is killing me from the inside out but in a good way

[kitkat-the-muffin]

Simoncest is so funny to me because I definitely don’t ship it but also do wanna keep seeing fanart of Winter King being absolutely disturbing and unnerving to Simon

What do you call it when an evil and insane version of a character has such a strange infatuation with a reformed and morally good alternate version of themself to the point that it’s terrifyingly romantic in an undesirable way?

It’s just so interesting to me. The evil craves the good and the good fears the evil and they continue this game of self-inflicted torture upon each other until the good succumbs or the evil is defeated

When the good succumbs you get selfcest but when the evil’s defeated everything returns to normal ig. Depends on your preference

#I wouldn’t say selfcest is inherently bad I just have some Undertale trauma I need to work through #I mean it’s morally gray ig #fionna and cake #adventure time #adventure time fionna and cake #simon petrikov #the winter king #winter king #ice king #the ice king #muffin moments

[inbarfink]

"oooooh, I know the comics aren't canon, but I wonder if Simon did an 'Ice King Apology Tour' in the main show continuity as well?"

Guys, let's not kid ourselves.

Simon's first instinct is to apologize for the actions of his Alternative Universe Counterparts.

OF COURSE HE DID A FUCKING ICE KING APOLOGY TOUR!

#adventure time #atimers #fionna and cake #fionna & cake #at #at fionna and cake #fac #f&c #adventure time fionna and cake #adventure time simon #fionna and cake simon #fionna and cake series #fionna and cake show #simon petrikov #simon adventure time #winter king #the winter king #ice king #the ice king #princess bubblegum

[kettleghost]

more of these two failwife freaks

#my art #simon petrikov #Betty grof #adventure time #at #fionna and cake #ice king #the ice king #petrigrof #adventure time au #adventure time fanart #swap au #crownswap

[run-with-the-wolvez]

He makes that one squee noise when he smiles

#adventure time #ice king #the ice king #simon petrikov

[tropotropotropo]

RETURN OF THE TUMBLR SEXYMAN KING

#the layers of tumblr sexyman simon has is unmatched #he even gets a new idealized dream ice prince tumblr sexyman form #he encompasses every tumblr sexyman trope he is the ultimate #accept no substitutions #adventure time #fionna and cake #the ice king #simon petrikov #the ice prince

[drawlody]

Finally an official ref sheet for my SWAP!designs>:D (Drawing chibi is much faster lol)

•Ice Lady💙 -Really like her design I think I did a pretty good job:D - Trynna make her make her more like Evergreen with the hair swoop thingy and the way he wear the top -Dont have a beard so have a make-shift one(⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ) -Kidnaps wizards instead of princesses -IDK why people like to make her wear glasses since Ice King didnt wear one but anyway she only wear glasses when in Simon presence after their date in "Bespoken for"

•Magic Simon❤️ -Stuck on whether or not should I make him let himself go the way Betty do since I feel like he value his image way more (wear suit throughout the war and such) -A bit of facial hair and grey streaks👏 -Betty lost her glasses when go mad in this ver so he is keeping it as well as their pic -This is just a pet peeve but again with the glasses thing why do people draw his eyes inside the lens, cause to like to me eyes in lens is a Betty thing while eyes above lens is a Simon thing u get me?

In "Bespoken for" Simon try to get Ice Lady to wear the glasses just to ya know get a glimpse of the woman he loved SM. She did but then take it off immediately saying it make her "look like a nerd" but once seeing him being upset she make "a cooler ice one" and wear it around him

She also give him a matching pair of Gunter slipper in the date💙❤️ ( I will draw this later dw)

Here r some of the design sketches:D

#adventure time #betty grof #simon petrikov #petrigrof #adventure time swap #adventure time au #adventure time fanart #digital drawing #artists on tumblr #character design #fionna and cake #magic betty #the ice lady #the ice king #magic simon #i work on these for like 3 months i think???