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#taz graduation hate
lovevalley45 · 11 months
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okay i'm curious bc i have kinda fallen off on taz n noticed the later campaigns aren't as popular so
also DO NOT be bringing hate in the tags. this is just a general question, not trying to bring negative vibes but just wondering
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fitzroycontent · 1 year
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Virgin taz grad haters making two hour long videos on why they hated it vs chad taz grad enjoyers rotating the thundermen in their brains peacefully
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aahsokaatano · 6 months
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I'm finally listening to TAZ Graduation and I gotta say, it's a lot more fun than I was led to believe. Also the music is GREAT, it gives me Moomins vibes and I love it
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thesevenofbirds · 2 years
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The one redeeming quality about the hellish gauntlet I'm going through trying to find housing is that the rental company i have to call about once a day has tinny hold music that sounds vaguely like the Taz: amnesty theme.
So that's a win i guess.
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unpopular opinion but I really like the adventure zone. the first DND podcast I ever listened to was Taz Balance. I fell in love with it instantly. it was funny and silly and told a good story while being easy to follow for someone like me who didn't know how to play before hand. I learned how to play alongside the players and liked the goofs. it's what got me back into fanfiction writing and part of what gave me the courage to start actually posting them for people to read.
I've always had a hyperfixation on cryptozoology as long as I can remember and so amnesty caught my attention quickly. I love the chaos of it and apparently it's unpopular but I really loved Aubrey too. all of the players were great but apparently it's unpopular to like Aubrey and all Travis's characters in general. and Travis in general but I love Travis, his humor is exactly mine and Aubrey and Magnus are still on par with my favorites. I went as Arlo Thacker and Indrid Cold to the Halloween parties I had this year.
the first character I ever cosplayed was Magnus Burnsides and I got my partner to cosplay Taako. it was the first one and inspired a lot more creativity in me.
I love the graphic novels. I own all of them except for the eleventh hour because I can't afford it yet but I've read all of them they're all really well drawn and the story is amazing as always. all of them and all arcs of every campaign have made me cry easily. they're all that beautiful
finally I really really really liked graduation. I love Fitzroy. everything about crab boy magic man makes me happy. I like Rainer and her wheelchair, as someone who needs a wheelchair (but can't afford one rip american healthcare) it's nice to see and I also like that it's brought up in a jokey way when we first meet her. because it wasn't pity or anything. it was very in character for her. I like that we meet so many people up front because that's what it feels like when you move schools. there's so much new to the point of being overwhelming. I LOVE FIRBY AND HIS NO NAME!!!
I see so much hate towards taz and specifically towards Travis and I just can't understand it. also why expend your energy towards something you don't enjoy. just let people like things.
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raccoonnutella13 · 5 months
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every time i see someone hate on taz graduation for dumb reasons it makes me relieved knowing ive added more value to the world than those ppl
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corvidcall · 11 months
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Fascinated by your sarah z hate- would love to hear more about this if you’d like to share. My experience of her is just that mediocre Homestuck vid or something she made.
lmao yeah sure i guess i can expound on it
i should preface this by saying that i dont think shes like. a bad person. and i dont have some secret knowledge of problematique things shes done that we should all Cancel her for.
tl;dr i just think her videos are really bad. she keeps making videos about stuff that i was there for and then being wrong about them, and it drives me crazy. on top of that, it just rubs me the wrong way to make your whole brand "the lady who talks about tumblr"
like, i think her homestuck video sucks (and i think its very funny that she admitted that she only spent a week making it, but ALSO got really defensive when people said she was wrong about stuff. like, i think the way whatpumpkin and andrew hussie responded to her video was Bad but also that doesnt retroactively defend the original video from being poorly researched and, in my opinion, in bad taste. it was weird to make a video where you talk about all the controversy about hs^2 not that long after the whole project got cancelled because too many of the trans women working on it were receiving daily death threats)
and i think the mcelroys video sucks (that was the last one i watched before i gave up entirely. its really long and very boring, and basically is just her listing a bunch of stuff they did that people had problems with, which essentially puts "travis was annoying on twitch" on the same level of seriousness as "taz: graduation used a lot of harmful native american stereotypes". i genuinely am not sure what the point of this video was supposed to be, because it feels like its her reading a tumblr callout post. also she was wrong about taz: amnesty. the ending WAS foreshadowed, it did NOT come out of nowhere, she just wasnt paying attention.)
but the onceler fandom video is honestly the absolute pits. i am still friends with a lot of the people that i was in the onceler fandom with, and i genuinely havent met a single former onceslut who thought her video was good, or the least bit accurate. her thesis basically boils down to that the onceler fandom was just a bunch of young teen girls projecting fantasies onto a nonthreating decently attractive fictional guy, which isnt that weird and people are only making a big thing about it because they hate teenage girls. and her conclusions arent WRONG, per say, since people DO hate teen girls and this is a thing theyre known to do... its just. thats literally not what the onceler fandom was at all?? first off, when i got into it i was 17 and i was the youngest person i knew by far. almost everyone i saw in the fandom were in their 20s, and a lot of them were not girls at all. and as far as any of US remember, the thing sustained the fandom wasnt 13 year old girls exploring their nascent sexualities, it was people using the barest pretense to make OCs, and then craft stories with and about their friends OCs. it was a really cool unique experience because it was a fandom for the things the fandom built. a lot of the people i knew had never watched the movie The Lorax at all, or didnt really care about it one way or another, but DID get really invested in the dynamic between Swag and One, or got really invested in the two big AUs the fandom had. By the time i got there, most people had kinda moved away from the canon onceler anyway, and were focused almost exclusively on the AUs (there was a high school AU and a zombie apocalypse AU, and then during the summer the high school AU blogs would do a child summer camp AU. i liked the zombie one best because i love melodrama, but the high school one was most popular). i know she was IN the onceler fandom (allegedly...) but as far as i can tell, she was just there at the very start, because it changed WILDLY even just a few months after its inception. and there's no way anyone who saw the fandom that I was actually in would make the sweeping statements about it that she did.
broadly, her videos are too unfocused and not really well-written. her one on Oppa Homeless Style was a genuinely good video!! I know she CAN do good videos!! But so many of her more fandom-focused videos dont really seem to have a thesis beyond "this happened" or maybe even "this was kinda weird right?". like what is the viewer supposed to take away from the video about the mcleroys? that they made a podcast that was really popular and then got less popular? why did that take you TWO HOURS to say? and even when she does have a strong thesis, its always muddied by the fact that she feels compelled to add in really long, boring digressions. I think the video about All or Nothing was good, and made an interesting point about how pan and ace people are really starved for meaningful rep, but i dont understand why she felt compelled to recount the entire plot of the webseries someone made? what did that contribute to the thesis? its like shes reading a wikipedia page, and not like. an actual ESSAY. that someone structured to convey a POINT.
but overall i just take umbrage with her whole "tumblr historian" shtick. i think its kind of gross to put really niche (generally woman-dominated) subcultures on display so people can come gawk at the freaks. ive heard the defense that "she IS a fandom person!! these videos are FOR fandom people!!" but 1. if its supposedly supposed to be for me and NOT an audience of people unfamiliar with the thing shes talking about, then there would be no need to spend so long explaining what everything is, and 2. i can at least say, in my own subjective experience, that i said basically all this to my sister, who told me that thats why she likes sarah z at all, because the videos let her come gawk at all the fandom freaks on tumblr. so its cool that sarah z is giving the person who bullied me my whole life (specifically because the way i engaged with media was too cringe) more reasons to bully me for being cringe. big preesh sarah. glad youre making money off of the free content all of us put out, and even more glad that youre profiting by taking all that free content and presenting it to a largely hostile and judgemental audience who already thinks im a fucking idiot. why dont you make a video about my popular hamlet post next, since you seem to make videos exclusively about things i did.
anyway if i want to watch video essays about fandom, i'll watch princess weekes, whose videos are substantive and not... idk very juvenile. not that i think there cant be more than one youtuber talking about fandom!!! its just that sarah z's videos are mid at best and actively bad at worst, so im not gonna bother.
(all that being said, i occasionally look at her blog and reblog stuff. while shes working down in the tumblr mines looking for content to steal, she does frequently find some decent posts to reblog)
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duck-newton · 1 year
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scrolling through taz graduation tag in the year of our lord 2023
*my post* *my post* *fanart that I’ve already reblogged* *my post* *porn bot* *completely unprompted travis mcelroy hate based solely on the fact that he’s a neurodivergent person who chooses not to make himself palatable to neutrotypicals* *my post*
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authorofthemoon · 1 year
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Alright I just finished TAZ: Ethersea so imma do a quick ranking of the seasons. Disclaimer I don't hate any of them since they all made me laugh a shit ton even if I don't fully love where certain plots and stuff went.
1. Balance. She's iconic. We love her. I feel like if this isn't your number one you're a liar. I think Balance was really lightning in a bottle and I don't expect any series to be exactly the same.
2. Graduation. Apparently this is a controversial opinion and a lot of people hate graduation? I don't understand like how can you hate a show where Phesto, Rainer, and Fitzroy exist. Of course it's not above criticism but I feel like people hate it just bc Griffin isn't the DM.
3. Amnesty. Was a weird hard turn after Balance since they were eway more limited and lived more in a community. It was really fun beginning to end I just disagree with some character choices made near the end *cough* Duck and Minerva.
4. Ethersea. I think Ethersea had a strong start and there were so many good comedic bits in it, but I think that it ended too abruptly. I don't know if it ending was planned at that moment or if the events in the last arc made it end. It could've benefitted from one more arc imo. The ending kinda confused me but maybe it'll clear up for me in the wrap up. Also I love Travis, I really do, but Devo became too insufferable for my taste even if that was the point.
5. Commitment. Commitment was a fun mini arc and I hope they go back one day.
6. Dust? I guess I need to watch season 2 of Dust but season one didn't really leave much of an impression on me cuz I thought I was a rollover one like commitment.
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roguemonsterfucker · 1 year
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I can't believe that when I brought TAZ up to a 'friend' they instantly were liked "Oh I heard Travis is DMing this season" in such a... yucky tone.
Like first off, Graduation ended like a year earlier if not more by that point lol. Keep up. And secondly HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ABOUT MY BOY LIKE THAT.
Look, if you don't like the McElroy's that's fine. You do you. No judgement here. They aren't for everyone.
But even their fans hate on Travis so much and I'm sick of it.
So anyways, Travis haters can unfollow me now. ✌
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justepilepsy · 1 year
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Epilepticon Day 3
While it can be hard to find good representation, that doesn’t mean it’s not out there. Tell us about your favorite epilepsy rep, either in original works or fanfiction, or if you’ve never found any, tell us about a character you like to headcanon as having epilepsy or who you relate to because of your epilepsy, even if they’re not epileptic.
I have to admit i rarely seek out media with explicit epilepsy representation. A lot of times this is, because it makes me uncomfortable to read/see people having seizures in fiction, because it just hits too close to home and I get into a very weird headspace, ruminating on my past seizures and what happened all around that time. Those years specifically weren't great in many ways for me, so I try not to dwell on them. It is something I am kind of slowly testing the waters with and having found and being sent various fanfics with good representation has been incredibly pleasant and lovely. I have not found this in published work yet, except for MIS(H)ADRA by IASMIN OMAR ATA. To this day I would do a lot to get my hands on a physical copy and I will make sure to get one once I finally have a part-time position secured.
It's been a long time since I've read it, but it drew me in and it was the first time I had actually found representation in any media. Let alone a comic that talks about epilepsy. I am absolutely headcanoning Fitzroy Maplecourt from TAZ Graduation as epileptic though. I know this might be a bit simple?, but I think the "wild magic" trait in DnD has a very nice flavour to it where it does usually not "go away" like that and even though the random outbursts of magic in the game are linked to the magic superpowers, I think the impact and repercussions of the way the mechanic works, is severe enough to feel properly disruptive.
Especially when you play with a more drastic scale wild-magic table in DnD that is truly life-threatening to your character (or others) at times, it recreates a true sense of risk and caution, that is very familiar.
With Fitzroy: Having a character that had his dreams sort of "ripped from him by uncontrolled magic" feels like a classic (?) epilepsy narrative. I'm... not a huge fan of how the "magic situation" got resolved in canon (would have liked more ... time? slightly different spin on it), but also I am just picturing Festo as Fitzroy's neurologist/pharmacist so.. uh yay for ... medication.. (though unconventional and definitely not implied by canon this way, this is just me justifying the HC). Fitzroy is not: "Oh magic powers neat! I just gotta get that wild stuff under controll uwu!!!" he is more like "i hate my magic (epilepsy) and I hate that i have to deal with it - i want it to be gone" and he can't make it go away, but he can learn to understand and accept himself, his boundaries and that he is worth so much no matter what. Especially with Fitzroy's magic outbursts being very constant and all the time in the beginning of the story and then later being less often / more controlled, it feels like a journey of slowly getting your meds and having less seizures. :'D That's maybe the briefest way i can put it.
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sattarehi · 6 months
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travis mcelroy got way too much hate for Graduation. it wasn't perfect, it wasn't clean, but it was his first attempt at a longform story, and he was coming into it vulnerably earnest and genuine.
that was not the vibe of TAZ, so it felt really weird! and he obviously hadn't done his research regarding certain issues. but it was never malicious. and the fucking community ripped him apart despite that.
yes, we can ask for better from people who produce content. but we cannot destroy their desire to create in the process. or we are, frankly, no better than fascists.
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snacco · 10 months
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anyway why did everyone hate TAZ graduation, that shit was delightful
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siriwesen · 1 year
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Part of me wants to watch that 2 h video and see what the maker has to say because there is criticism to be made on TAz Grad.
And I like learning about why someone may not enjoy something I like and I like learning why someone likes something I don't.
But also I don't think I want to spend my energy on this.
I'll just be in my corner. Animating Graduation. The arc everyone hates or sth.
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caprisunnyd · 2 years
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Im really glad that I didn't listen to taz podcast for a few years during amnesty because it seem like I missed alot of drama or something for people to start... hating? On the McElroy family? I have no idea why people started bashing on graduation, its a really nice story
Like I've been seeing videos on the rise and fall of them... like what? They are real people not a corporate store. Yeah their making money, but they deserve to, they make wonderful things. Money is important and if it keeps them happy, having fun and I get to watch or listen then its a win win
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rancidmice · 1 year
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starting taz graduation and i’m glad that the remaining souls on tumblr are hyping it up, but also what WAS the drama around it/why do so many people hate it i’m so curious
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