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elturiandawn · 7 months

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@infernalbarbarian asked: ‘it wasn’t you. I didn’t trust anyone. I was afraid to.’

“Avernus did strange things to people.”

In the fire-marked dusk light, she can still see the churning wastes of Avernus, the Styx stretched out beneath Elturel like the maw of some ravenous beast. Even now, it’s jarringly surreal—the towering spires of her beloved city clutched in the strangle-hold of sickly skies, rather than beneath the blessed velvet firmament. It seems a nightmare more than a memory, because how could anything be so powerful as to rip a city from its very foundation and drag it across the planes?

Not just anything, but anyone. Zariel. The poisonous fount of Celeste's own infernal blood.

The same creature who tormented Karlach—who forced her into service in the Blood War. Who would have done the same to Celeste, had the fellow tiefling not intervened on her behalf.

She paid the price for it, too. Topaz eyes linger on the shattered horn crowning Karlach’s head, a gift from Zariel for her disobedience. Perhaps to a non-tiefling, the scar seems insignificant. But Celeste knows: her horns are a part of herself, as integral to her identity as her face and her voice. To have one ripped from her head would be nothing less than a gross violation.

“When Elturel was restored to Faerûn, my own people cast me out—even though I had done nothing but protect them. They cast out the others, too. Zevlor, Alfira, Dammon. Good, innocent people. All because we had the blood of devils in our veins.”

She shifts, pulling her legs up against her chest. The position is strangely childlike for the princess, as if she’s been seized by such a weariness that she can’t be bothered to maintain her poise. She feels like a little girl again—hurt, lonely, somehow unable to comprehend the cruelties that the world lays at her feet.

“I was angry for a while. There were good people in that mob—people I once knew and trusted. Friends. I didn’t understand how they could perpetrate such injustice. And then I realized… it wasn’t me they were really afraid of. They’d been hurt. Badly. They were scared, and they were trying to protect themselves in every way that they could.”

She turns to look at Karlach again, and there’s a softness there that was absent a moment ago—a warm admiration that seeps through the gold of her eyes. “I don’t blame you for keeping me at a distance, Karlach. You were protecting yourself the only way you knew how. It doesn’t change what you did, nor will I ever be any less grateful for it.”

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paarthursass · 8 months

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just replayed the party scene and not only does wyll explicitly call himself a devil MULTIPLE times, the ONLY references he makes to his appearance are on how those changes personally affect his experiences now ("claws pop the balloons" and "cake doesn't taste as good to this forked tongue").

never. NEVER. does he state that he finds his new appearance unattractive. never does he say ANYTHING to imply that he finds the features he shares with tieflings ugly. he literally only talks about how his new features inconvenience him and, yeah! suddenly having claws and finding out your taste-buds are rewired would require a great deal of getting used to!

but the folks in this fandom turn off their reading comprehension the minute the character who isn't their white fave starts speaking so we've got idiots saying wyll's racist to tieflings.

#sophie.txt #bg3 #baldur's gate 3 #wyll ravengard #and i will say again: he has turned into a DEVIL #one of the creatures who was tormenting the tieflings when they were trapped in avernus #which we are told multiple times they just escaped from #he is worried he is going to remind them of a VERY recent VERY shitty place they only JUST escaped from

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paarthursass · 8 months

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On the one hand, I understand why Wyll is off to the side during the tiefling party. His bodily autonomy was taken from him and he was altered against his will. That is a deeply traumatizing thing to go through. I also understand in theory what he is saying about how he would make the others uncomfortable: the tieflings have, specifically, recently escaped Avernus. Mizora, specifically, turned Wyll into a devil. Wyll is afraid that he looks too alike the creatures that tormented the tieflings when they were trapped in Avernus (he says as much, iir)

But there is SO little visual distinction between devils and tieflings that it really is a bit of an odd moment. Mizora and Raphael just look like tieflings with wings. Wyll mistakes Karlach for a devil before he realizes she's a tiefling. The Flaming Fist in Baldur's Gate say Wyll looks like a tiefling.

Maybe there could be some added dialogue - Zevlor does react to seeing Wyll as a devil, but maybe a comment about how Wyll feels different to them now, how he intangibly reads as something devilish to the tieflings.

Or just...remove that part about Wyll making the others uncomfortable and focus on Wyll not feeling up to partying because of the whole "bodily autonomy ripped from me" thing because the visual difference between devils and tieflings is negligible at this point. At least let the PC gently point out that he doesn't look much different from a tiefling now. He didn't shun them before, so why should he expect them to shun him?

#sophie.txt #bg3 spoilers #baldur's gate 3 #bg3 #baldur's gate #wyll ravengard

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