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#ofc this is all just my internal worldview on the thing it's by no means definitive but its just for Fun!
bigshotautos · 3 months
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I really like your theory about Spamton basically haunting a mannequin after death. Have you ever touched upon the reaction from Jevil (or anyone, really) upon seeing the new Spamton? Especially considering Spamton isn't even aware he 'died'.
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^ how i think jevil's first sight of Spamton would go. i love this ask. this is referring to some headcanons I made a while back, I'll link it here for the one post and the general ghost spamton theory is linked in that one as well. Going to elaborate on it more under the cut for those interested + more art.
In general I think that people from Spamton's past wouldn't really care if they notice at all, since he wasn't in the business of making close friends with anyone. With the Addisons, in my interpretation he had a "weird co-worker" relationship with them, and while Addisons in general treated each other like potential business competitors that they had to make-nice with, Spamton is especially easy to single out for being visibly and temperamentally different. His altered, current state is something they'd feel at least uncomfortable by, but many wouldn't have been too close with him to begin with for them to talk about it with him directly. Would get whispered about between each other for sure, like we saw with them talking about Spamton after the NEO fight. It moves him from the "disgraced guy I used to know" category to the "actually unpleasant to look at or think about" territory. This goes for Swatch, Queen, and Seam (less so), who seem to buy heavily into the Lightner and Darkner dynamic, with Spamton corrupting the Lightner's dream being a strong taboo against what it means to be a Darkner.
As for what Jevil thinks, Spamton during the NEO fight is both a beautiful and horrifying display. Jevil at this point hasn't seen him in years since his imprisonment, and in their time apart Jevil has grown to find novelty in the cage that everyone else besides him is in since he's created huge emotional distance between him and the reality he lives in. Seeing the fact that Spamton had corrupted an abandoned dream of a Lightner and was causing so much chaos to the established order of the world would be exhilarating, but at the same time seeing that Spamton had accomplished this and still had his strings visible (and changed to a marionette puppet with no symbolic agency), it'd be a painful confirmation of his worldview that even Spamton, who deep down he still cares for, could never have been free.
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Jevil would think at first he'd just gone through some nebulous situation to change what he looks like, since ofc he himself has toy-like traits (arguable if that happened with Gasterfication or not), Seam is a plushie cat, and other Card Castle Darkners are based on toys, but feeling the lack of life combined with the symbolic body of Spamton would mean to him something bigger had went wrong. He wouldn't dare to bring it up in an empathetic way, stuck in his mindset that it doesn't matter, but it'd still hit a part of him he doesn't like to think still exists. It's something he gets over quickly, almost performatively going back to fucking with him and taking advantage of his fear for entertainment, but it didn't sit well at first.
To me, the fact Spamton "died" isn't really a huge deal, kind of like with the ghosts in Undertale where no one really cares they're just ghosts. They're just doing their thing. To me it'd be fine if neither of them find out what happened for certain, but it's something that adds Flavor to his character.
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epochryphal · 2 years
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thinking lately about reclaiming “superstitious” (etymology is apparently about an excess of belief, and is tied to scrupulosity Hah), rather than pagan or heathen
went on a trip through wiktionary regarding etymologies and found an ongoing conflation of things like supernaturalist with theist
(what about anti-divine supernaturalist lmao)
intuitionalist is apparently an adherent to a type of math proof theory that rejects the axiom that a statement must be either true or false. so that’s a fun one
profanist doesn’t appear in use yet. hm hm hm
just, increasingly bothered by the binary between theist and “surely atheist means believes nothing supernatural” - and also by the binary of natural/supernatural? as if only what we perceive is natural, somehow without rendering uv rays and dark matter supernatural
thinking a lot about shame, stigma, hide-it reflex around our intuitions and instincts around our senses, experiences, understandings. about an obsession with provability, with graspable truth. about othering in order to make an inner circle. about the concept of idolatry. about locuses of attention and intent. the whole “i wish i could believe” and what is the ‘but’
tired of compound phrases trying to mash together pieces that never want to blend - supernatural atheist, superstitious satanist, anti-theist witch. tired of feeling like finding meaning and inspiration and sense-making in contemporary art is insufficient for “sourcing” a philosophy-theology-spirituality
mushi-ist, lol. mushishian.
i’d like to not be so activated heightened on edge around religious language, like around gender language, and it’s maybe a defense mechanism alerting to real unsafety, but maybe building up my own stronghold and sense thereof can also help, and maybe that isn’t forcing a dispelling of protective important grey fog, maybe it can be installing furniture i feel comfortable sitting in/on.
i think i haven’t properly internally articulated a reaction to the concept of “the divine” as in a property things can have. maybe need to establish a firmer boundary there. a non-science-based rejection. though an understandable type of experience feeling.
ugh i’ve been increasingly frustrated with the colonialist evangelical worldview of prominent athiesm, though of course that’s always the most prominent, that’s its whole deal. the ableism too of course, but like extra palpably so
…huh apparently ‘worship’ comes from worth + state of being, and used to basically mean worthy. and ‘profane’ comes from pre-temple. mm, finding the outside-temple worthy huh, without needing to… dedicate it to a purpose (make sacred) or set it apart (sanctify). a worth without taking and reprocessing
i think i resisted looking at etymology for a long time because it felt like a bad part of my inclinations, like mental illness, like overindulgent pattern-seeking, pointless. but it’s so much easier for my brain to find footholds this way, instead of trying to think through broad and abstract - i’ve always been little picture. and it doesn’t mean accepting unquestioningly, or. it’s helping with meaning units, with historical trends, even as none of this is infallible. rotating the camera lens inside my head. tarot does similar. touching my rock collection
probably a big part of why i prefer non-english video media, there’s the extra filter disclaimer room for disagreement reinterpretation
quasi relatedly i am sighing for the pressure on platforms to provide opt-out switches for “””the holidays””” and am back to resenting how can i keep busy enough to not Feel the Enforced Time Off without then interacting with yet more situations constantly invoking The Holidays. etsy fkin, “we know this relationship could be strained so here’s a link to opt out of father’s day notifs” but nothing for anything else (or other reasons) and also gendered marketing ofc. especially frustrating as all the like, platforms through which to access content you’ve already paid for (eg steam, smart tvs, netflix) do this. considering if i should figure out some like, going into physical books and old game consoles, avoiding the s’media, and purging my emails of anyone who invokes the Time Of Year (it getting in the way of uh business emails is especially annoying)
also considering making thursday nights my time of reflection and self-centering and intention setting, that worked when it was an event to go to, it’s separate enough from wednesday awana and friday shabbat and sunday church associations, it might interfere with some jobs i’d like to accept but i’m increasingly getting friday-saturday-sunday jobs so. dunno still what days to establish as my days off exactly, especially given special events - but then again those are special and could be taken off for, as long as i know a bit in advance…
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