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#no one went this hard for cwf
cowboylikedean · 3 months
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😭😭😭😭😭😭 the game is over can my dashboard be useable now
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taylortruther · 8 months
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I mean she was one of the top 10 most famous people in the world when they met. What did he think, he was going to become as sucessful as her? I think problems really escalated when he got leading roles in CWFs and TSAN and then got panned in both movies. At the same time, Taylor's career was shooting upward and he couldn't handle it. Still think about how little promo Taylor did for Midnights and how she didn't post about her streaming records or first week sales. Makes me just wonder about alot of things, that's all I'm saying.
ngl anyone would struggle because joe was getting panned and also getting called shit like "mr. taylor swift" (yes, it happens to women all the time, and it also sucks extra hard then.) unfortunately some people could've handled it and he didn't want to or couldn't any longer. it's not wrong but it certainly seems painful the way it all went down in their private lives.
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spade-riddles · 1 year
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For the Calvin Anon:
This is how I see it.
She didn’t need Calvin to boost her career. She needed him to help her narrative for her next album, which was reputation. Reputation was always supposed to be about Calvin/Tom.
Just look at the “flashback when you met me” line. The “lies were white, the ties were black”—a black tie affair, which the Met Gala is. Public narrative wise—those lines would’ve fit Tom Hiddleston who we saw her interacting with at the Met Gala had that plan worked out. There are no pictures or mentions of she and Toe ever interacting that night. Just mentions created by Swifties, who gave them an anniversary date. Just like they gave them a story about William Bowery’s origins, which Toe rehearsed and talked about conveniently during his CWF promo run, but hadn’t acknowledged prior.
When she went through the Kimye situation, she had to pivot and pivot hard. Because Taylor wasn’t seen publicly, she couldn’t plant the seeds for the Easter eggs in her new songs before the album came out. So in comes Toe, somebody that no one had even heard or known of, because again, she wasn’t publicly seen for over a year. This helped her to create this new “secret relationship” narrative for the album. Because to the public, her past albums have always been built around *a* “relationship” that had taken place. Jake & red. Harry and 1989, for example.
Calvin literally wrote an entire thread on Twitter about how he “grew a big ol beard” to win a Grammy and all he got was a song (that she wrote under a pseudonym at the time) and a nomination.
So really needed who for their career?
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elenaferrante · 1 month
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I'm just not sure that view of Joe and fame fit the facts. He was talking dismissively about fame and celebrity in the usual British actor way pre pandemic. He also mentioned somewhere about preferring to do smaller roles in films he finds interesting than bigger roles in films that weren't as interesting. I'm not sure that is what a person chasing fame would be doing?
Also was his career de-railed with the pandemic? I believe I recall him saying something about it being hard to deal with, as it was for a lot of people who were unable to work and found themselves unsure about the future. But I don't think the pandemic would have been seen as anything other than a pause to his career at the time. Maybe just a sense of time being wasted (since most actors do have a shelf life). Now if his views on fame changed post CWF and SaN, then I would say you have a fair point. But they were clearly having their issues long before those two things flopped.
Hello! I mean - not to be that person - but if he didn’t care for fame at all, or if he actively disliked it as it seems now, why did he look to become a tv & cinema actor in the first place? And the thing is, don’t get me wrong, I 100% believe that him witnessing what Taylor went through in 2016 and following years genuinely influenced his view of fame and celebrity, but I don’t think back when he started he had a problem with it.
He surely didn’t have a problem with Taylor’s celebrity at the time, considering he was happily taking her to his events up until 2020 basically. So something switched with the pandemic, or around that time. And I do think that Covid negatively impacted his career considering that before lockdown hit, he was booked to do several projects that then either didn’t happen (like the Luca guadagnino film, and I think there was another one as well?) or he had to pull out from bc of scheduling issues that the pandemic had created (Emily).
Lastly, I do think their issues started at some point in mid 2021, which is around the time CWF flopped, and definitely got worse after that. Anyway, as I said yesterday, I don’t think fame was the only issue they had ofc, but I do think Taylor’s success somehow became a problem and his reaction to it was one of the things that eventually led them to the breakup.
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foxes-that-run · 7 months
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2022 Haylor Timeline
Timeline Tag, or years 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024.
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3-14 January - Harry in LA, drunk on New Years Eve with James Corden's son, Looking exceptional with Jeff played golf on the 14th
5 February - Taylor seen for the first time in 3 months, in Brooklyn New York with Andrea and Scott. Last time seen was November 2021.
8 February - Joe told deadline "I think people can do what they want and makes them happy. I’m obviously happy in a monogamous relationship, But I think one of the interesting things about Sally’s writings and what she explores is happiness, love, desire, and intimacy outside of those constructs that we create for ourselves"  ..... ..... ..... OK.
14 February - the 1975 / Jack Collab record is complete, started after 5 January.
24 February - Harry filmed As it was MV
15 March - Harry and OW seen walking in London
27 March - Joe and Taylors last proper public appearance was an Oscars pre party, they skipped the red carpet and looked uncomfortable. (DM Story Jack had an argument with FKA Twigs who was dating Matty after the Oscars)
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1 April - As it Was song and MV released, starts a 10 week run at #1
4 April - Taylor skipped the Grammy's although was nominated for Album of the Year for Evermore. Rumour Harry shut OW out of meeting
15 April - Harry's first night at Coachella, Harry performs Coachella and releases Boyfriends with "to boyfriend's everywhere f*** you" and an angry expression. Then performs 'Still the One' and Feel like a Woman with Shania Twain. Harry looks emotional. Shania later said to Zane Lowe that Harry really wanted Shania there for the first weekend. She also said they exchanged numbers after Harry asked her to call Anne on her birthday, Shania told a similar story to Colbert adding it was was Harry was coming up and she saw him perform in New York.
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19 April - Drake shared a photo of Taylor captioned ""They too soft to understand the meaning of hard work" Joe appears in Elle campaign with Alison Oliver for CWF, photographed at Taylor’s London home where they also throw a party. Taylor’s Brit award visible in the background of the party. Video later emerges of Joe saying her name “Alison” in a sex scene in CWF, unclear when filmed. Elle’s interview with the Conversations with Friends cast is released, and when Joe is “asked if he hopes to continue writing songs, Alwyn simply says, “It’s not a plan of mine, no.”
20 April - unreleased Harry and 1D songs leaked demos of Trouble, Hunger, Lay Down, Already Home and Without You. Studio versions of Complicated Freak, Baby Honey, Anna and Medicine. Joe: "If I had a pound for every time I think I've been told I've been engaged, then I'd have a lot of pound coins," also WB to WSJ
22 April - after performing boyfriends Harry goes to say something in the microphone but doesn’t. He starts cherry instead. OW, James, Jeff and Xander are there.
26 April - Harry better homes and gardens. On 28th pleasing shares “never gonna dance” daisy photo
27 April - Olivia Wilde served custody papers on stage in LA, in the middle of her CinemaCon speech. Harry was in LA but not seen
5 May - Harry's Zane Lowe Interview on Harry's House. Rumour Harry making out with someone other than OW
11 May - end of Daylight music video filming, although not released until July 2023. Olivia tattoo visible. Taylor stopped liking Joes IG posts 11 May.
15 May - CWF release with Joe saying co-stars name in sex scene at 11:55 of episode 3, then F-characters name at 12:10.
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18 May - Taylor receives an honorary doctorate from NYU. In her speech she smiled at a particular part of the audience when she referenced friends and family (6 mins), but Joe was at a Rising Hollywood party in LA. Hints at Midnights and lyrics indicating record is likely complete. Taylor stays in NY. Harry on Stern in NY.
19 May - Joe's went on Kelly Clarkson to talk about William Bowery and paused, blinked and looked away. Rumour Joe acting single and letting women think available.
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20 May - Harry's House Released
21 May - Harry's One Night Only launch concert filmed for Apple Music of Harry's house at UBS arena NY, all tickets were $25! Kissed heart in Satellite
29 May - LK wished he could rearrange days
4 June - Olivia shared photo with Harry’s pink stairs. 1975 release lead single, Jack/1975 collab well complete.
11 June - Taylor premiers All to Well at the Tribeca film festival. Hints at album with initials, 'departments' and the manuscript. Joe was there. Seen having dinner in NY with someone.
11 June - 22 July - Harry's European dates, often London between.
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26 June - first heart kiss in months, keeps it up till October
2 July - Taylor in LA
13 July - Taylor and Joe seen walking in London
20 August - 21 September - Harry MSG Residency in NY
23 August - Taylor in NY
26 August - Video of OW saying "this might be a wakeup call for Miss Flo" to Shia leaks. Shia said he was fired from DWD.
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28 August - Midnights announced at VMAs.  Harry is in NY, playing MSG and also wears blue star outfit that matches Taylor’s VMA after party outfit. Joe came to after party then ran out.
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5 September, Don't worry darling premiere Venice. Harry seems to be avoiding Olivia
7 September - 30 October - Peace Ring worn again at LOT shows.
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9 September - Taylor at TIFF Toronto, says album says typewriter and describes the Manuscript, hinting that the song TTPD was maybe written and album named. Taylor later references this outfit in the Fortnight music video at the end, the Spotify TTPD room also has Toronto on the safe.
12 September - Harry at Tiff for My Policeman, says wasted time is the most tragic thing. Joe also there, but not seen with Taylor
16 September - LK tweets "Sweet Reunion. I feel like the child you first met me as."
21 September - Harry finished a historic 15 night run at MSG. played ever since New York at MSG, the only time since 2018. Rumour Joe texting other people.
16 October - Taylor in NY, Bejeweled music video with “exile ends” clock and Easter eggs galore.
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21 October - Midnights Released. Joe and Taylor pap walk in NY. Harry and OW look unhappy at concert. Taylor IG post about midnights where she says she and Jack wrote a lot while Margaret and Joe were in Panama.
23 October - 15 November - Harry residency at Kia Forum LA, Peace Ring worn up to 30 October.
26 October - Taylor performs Exile with the National at their concert in London. The Alcott maybe written about then, was announced 19 Jan with complete album art
27 October - Taylor on Graham Norton in London. She mentions the Nashville Rubber Duck race which is referred to in Scott Swifts court case emails that resurface in December 2023. Bono claps and looks so proud while she talks about the rerecords. Last time seen till 2023.
1 November - Eras Tour announced
4 November - Taylor promotes Hits Different with this video
6 November - three of Harry's shows postponed due to Flu.
14 November - Kendall at Love on Tour, no setlist change.
15 November - Olivia at LOT show with kids. LK Loves someone like never before. Last LOT date of year.
18 November - Harry appears in photo for Pleasing christmas line
19 November - Harry shopping for a Ferrari
22 November - Olivia and Harry split reported.
15 December - Joe Alwyn’s actors on actors released in first question is where he outs the Tortured Man Club WhatsApp group chat
19 December - Joe and Taylor New Orleans trip. Video of Joe and Taylor seemingly arguing, Taylor left dinner with her arms crossed. At the time media also said she visited a recording studio, Fresh Out the Slammer recorded partly there.
23 December - Harry driving in LA, last time he’s seen driving for more than a year.
Continue to 2023
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bisluthq · 3 years
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this is my take on what happened before/in/after the cwf wrap party
this is part 1, if people like it i'll send you part 2 and 3
taylor was getting ready for the party and was naked but just had her underwear on, she was sitting on her stool applying cream mascara and lipstick, whereas joe was in another room attending an important phone call, wearing nothing but adidas shorts, when the call ended he went to their room, as he opened the door he saw her being focused on her eyes as she was applying her liner, he slowly went to the back of the stool staring at her back, then to the mirror and then to her boobs, by this time she had noticed he's behind her but she was still heavily focused
"get ready, you!" she said after finishing with the liner and then with the mascara
he went ahead and slightly brushed his hands over her upper back and then her shoulders, she moved her neck to the side and see him, she got up and wrapped her arms around his neck, her face close to his, slightly tilted so it rests on his cheeks. his one hand around her back upwards the other grabbing the lining of her panty from the corner of her waist
"i just need to put a shirt on and wear a jeans, you're the one who needs time!"
"also, what are you wearing?" he says that while slightly drifting off to her neck and ending the sentence with a soft yet little noisy kiss there
"erm, it's like a strappy green floral dress, just above the knee length... and... you baby?" she said moving her hands on his neck and slightly looking at him.
"oh, i saw that one yesterday in the closet, i was gonna wear something else but i've this other green shirt which has got flowers on it so it will compliment your dress like" he said looking at her and then giving her a forehead kiss twice
"that'd look really nice on you baby" she said smilingly and slightly moving away from him but her caught her and made her come back to him
he stared at her boobs and the moles she had on her midriff, he gradually bent down to kiss the area where her shoulders and neck meet, then to her collar bones, he started licking the parts of her chest where she had moles, she started gasping and moaning since he also started massaging her ass, he went ahead and started licking her bare and perky nipple slightly sloppy but she loved it the way he did. he then went upwards to her face
"i want to finger you so bad right now" he said that while kissing her lips and brushing his hands very softly on her torso up and down, this motion of his hands on her body always sent her chills through her whole body
"then do it please, do-" as she was about to speak, he already slid his hand in her underwear and gasped when he touched her vagina, he has felt it thousands of times but it never fails to make him feel oh so good, he starts circling her clit with his middle finger and grabbing her cunt with the other 4, she is moaning in-front of his mouth and he keeps kissing her face, her grip on his hair tightens, he's finger fucking her, standing, and in-front of a mirror. he shifts her body so that the side of their bodies is visible.
"look at us in the mirror" he said while his beard is brushing on her cheek kind of like a whisper
she tilts and sees them so close and sensual on the mirror, not even 5 seconds have passes and joe sped up and inserted his index finger too, he's seeing them on the mirror too, he loves seeing her in this state, where she can't hold her head still and starts kissing him on random and nearest parts of his body, she was currently kissing his biceps, she moved one of her legs to move across his legs.
"it feels soo good you don't even know, ah" she said
they were both staring at the mirror
"focus on me" he said, once she did he dived into her lips fully making out and biting each other's lips, while he was kissing she started to reach her orgasm and her voice because squeaky and loudly moaning, he knew she was reaching her orgasm but he kept kissing her
"oh my god, ahh ahh" she was orgasming and her head fell back leaving just her neck and breasts for him to kiss and he did exactly that, he hungrily started licking her breasts and neck and it made the orgasm go to another level.
once it stopped, she smiled and he started to wrap her legs 'round his waist but she rejected, she suddenly went down on her knees and started to remove his shorts, he gulped and grabbed each and every strand of her hair, she looked at him and then to his underwear, she removed them and grabbed his dick, she first started licking it and then abruptly stopped, he got a little annoyed
"look at us in the mirror" she said grinningly
once he started looking at them with a shy smile, she started licking his balls while slowly motioning his dick, it felt like heaven to him, her RED lipstick and her blue eyes just doing wonders, his head was falling back and slowly closing his eyes in ecstasy. when she suddenly started blowing his dick deep into her mouth, he was so close, she kept blowing him and then she got up and started kissing him on the lips while stroking him, he was giving sloppy kisses, he kept frowning and groaning because of what she was doing to him. finally he orgasmed and his both arms were around his waist, she got down again though, and licked his juices off.
"girl..... you're so beautiful, this was the best one ever, i love you so much" he said while breathing heavily
"this was needed, it felt so good, i love you too.... so much" she said
he grabbed both of the sides of her legs and wrapped them 'round his waist, he took her to the closet and placed her on the table in the middle of it, he backed up from her, she got a little annoyed and frowned
"we need to get ready for the party, we're already late baby" he said
"um ok but..." she said and grabbed him by his neck and kissed him hard and he grinned, his teeth grazed her lips and his hands on her boobs.
he again went back and recognized her dress in the cupboard, he grabbed it by his left hand and went up to her, he slowly brushed her dress along her body, starting from the legs, then her stomach and her nipples and then her cheeks while kissing her ever so softly. he encouraged her arms and hands to move up so he could make her wear it, he found the big hole of the dress and made her wear it, the clothe was stuck in some places and he corrected the creases, he loved the way it fitted her boobs, she got off the the table and instantly got his jeans from the back.
"now... your turn" she whispered in his left ear
she gave him the jeans so that he can slide his legs into into it, but once they reached his thighs, she went upto him and slid in the belt, she was still walking hence making them reach the wall, she buttoned him up.
"you look so sexy like this" she said while slightly brushing her hands on his abs and then his chest and nipples and ending it with the mole on his neck
"what you say? should i go to the party like this?" he giggled and wrapped his arms around her, her hands landed on his biceps and she loved touching and feeling them with her small hands. he kissed her on her forehead multiple times...this what peace is to them, just nothing to worry about and just being in each other's embrace.
"no.... you're wearing that green shirt you told me about earlier" she said while slightly rolling her eyes but she's aware it's just one of his lazy jokes
"where is the shirt? you remember?" she said
"on your right, on the hanger, my love" he said while playing with her fringes
she went ahead and got the shirt, she helped him get both of his arms inside the pockets, she started buttoning his shirt up, when only three were left she kissed twice on his chest then completely buttoned it while kissing his jaw.
she grabbed his hand and took him to the mirror again, she pointed at his wallet, and he tapped her shoulder and took it, she started brushing her hair and making a ponytail, when she was about to apply her RED lipstick again, he grabbed her by her forearms and said
"don't look at the mirror, look at me' i'll remove the excess of the lipstick"
"oh- okay..." she said giggling
he was super close to her and kept staring at her lips while she slowly started with her lower lips, she was staring at his eyes, she was enjoying it, she started working on her upper lips, once she finished she had some excess at the ends of her lips, he removed it by his fingers and kissed the corner of her lips. he went upto her ear and whispered
"i love you, this is gonna be completely gone by the end of the party, and i'm not even kidding."
Hope y'all like it
Well done!
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spade-riddles · 2 years
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See, this is also why no one believes he is WB and that he wrote those songs. They (Taylor/Toe) know people know he didn’t work on those albums. Remember the radio interview he did during CWF when the host kinda grilled him about it and he got all sassy with her? I think she said something about people working hard to earn Grammys. She must’ve struck a nerve because he was like “well *I* did”.
I even noticed now when you see the CWF promo on Twitter or IG, it mainly focuses on Sasha and Allison’s characters. He’s not a leading man, he has no sex appeal…he just photographs decently on occasion.
Not to be mean or rude, but I’m starting feel like Taylor’s so obsessed with staying relevant as she gets older that she doesn’t even realize how embarrassing this all looks. I mean…she’s literally breaking records daily. A shoo-in for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame when her opportunity comes about. Has inspired many artists to write their own songs and stressed the importance of them owning their masters from the beginning of their careers. Relevance doesn’t always have to be about the songs. It can be in terms of the impact you’ve made. Ashanti, who is well established herself has even said Taylor’s fight for her masters inspired her to go after hers. Anita Baker has spoken of Taylor’s influence on her masters fight (she now OWNS her work). Your relevance can be felt in your impact and your impact will be reflected in your legacy.
She even admitted she will inconvenience herself to prove a point and that speaks volumes. Because she’s literally doing that right now. Inconveniencing herself to prove a point that she can “keep a man” for longer than 3 months. Inconveniencing herself to push a false narrative to sell albums when she doesn’t even need to do that. That’s society’s fault though. Because as we can see, society doesn’t think LGBTQIA+ people (alleged or open) can express or have feelings and emotions like *they* do.
What’s sad is that instead of embracing who she is, she willingly “inconveniences herself to prove a point”, but it comes off more as her trying to convince herself of something by possibly denying her (alleged) truth.
Going through what she went through (career wise) in 2016 and surviving it was so empowering to other women because they too have encountered those same obstacles in the workplace—having men do anything to undermine or discredit their hard work. Their self-made success, but no. All of a sudden, everything is being credited to a man who did nothing, but reaps benefits and enjoys the fruits of YOUR labor.
As much as some people think it’s “cute” that Toe has “saved” her and other bs…it’s really not. It’s frustrating. In the process of “inconveniencing herself to prove a point”, she has (unintentionally) given into misogynistic mindset that women can’t be successful by their own doing unless a man plays a part in that success.
And I don’t really think that’s what you meant when you said you’d become a Mirrorball, Taylor. Why would you need to change everything about yourself to impress a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, white male (terrible) unknown actor?
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bisluthq · 3 years
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Oh yes CWF press will mostly be reporters asking him what Taylor feels about the sex scenes. It's going to be embarrassing as hell. Also reports about Taylor being jealous lmao
Eh I think he'll sit most of the press out and the three women will handle it. The thing is like the more you play up his ~mystery~ the sexier Nick is right? You can push Alison HARD and also have Sasha and Jemima do a bunch of press and he can do a couple of interviews and even ones where he's with Alison and/or Jem which would reduce the awkward questions.
I think of possible projects to do press with him CWF is really not the worst which I why they also went with him I think.
Like if he DOES get asked about how Tay feels about the sex scenes it's just gonna get press for CWF because he'll be like "she doesn't mind" or "she hasn't watched" or whatever and everyone will be like "WOAH LET'S GO CHECK THAT OUT!!?!???" in a way that wouldn't have been true had he answered like the Taylor questions for Harriet because there are literally NO links between Harriet Tubman's biopic and the fact that Joe Alwyn is fucking Taylor Swift.
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