#like the implications of Eddis and Teleus

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Okay tqt fandom I have questions about Moira's Pen stories because I am confused.

Do you think the women at the Costis/Kamet household are all costis's relatives before Laela shows up?? There's three of them, all the kids call them aunty, that makes sense, right?

Costis has kids who are half siblings. IS THE IMPLICATION THEY'RE HALF SIBLINGS THROUGH LAELA??

IS THE REALIZATION IN GITTA'S STORY THAT SHE IS SACRED TO EUGENIDES?? because Eugenides means "wellborn," but Gita's name ALSO means wellborn.

Like Costis and Kamet are together but Laela can marry one of them and they all get something out of it, Kamet loves Laela (but is in love with Costis) and Laela gets taken care of and a family and freedom and peace, and Costis gets an heir. Am I reading that right? Help I just want to understand. Costis and Kamet are definitely still together. I love them. ;-;

Bc it's Phaedo who has STEP-siblings, but Timris has a Half-brother named Philo. So Thalia(?) married Dumonius who had been married before and already had kids(?) There's cousins also, so these could very well be Dumonius's sisters.

I think the thing throwing me off is that Timris is named as Costis's son. I can't remember if Laela is too old to have kids (?) But my theory works better if Timris was called Kamet's son, and Phaedo is his half-brother. I guess they both could've married women "all the papas," but then why not just explain. Kamet counts as a Papa, right??

Okay so it goes Eugenides & Attolia -> Eugenia [who becomes Queen of somewhere that isn't Attolia? They do call her queen! She obviously didn't become queen if Pheris is the Princess Thief] -> [someone] -> [someone & Brael Royalty] -> princesses Gitta & Hennis. Gitta will be marrying the prince of Ephestalia, who is most likely the descendent of Eddis's grandson (the Union King). Right?

...my takeaway here is that Gitta is going to be a Queen Thief, yes? She shares a translation of the Eugenides name, and is betrothed to the heir to Ephestalia, and Eugenia saw her and Knew she was sacred to Eugenides. Tykus knew and that's why he had her read Gen's books. Eugenia only concedes to the name Gitta because the meaning is the same(?)

How did Eugenia simply die by the fire? Was it because she didn't take an oath?

....IS FALLING ASLEEP COUNTING AS A DEATH BY A FALL, MWT?????

Is the rest of fandom also convinced the Goddess addressing Eugenides in QOA Alyta because she calls him "Little Thief," says he made an offering at her altar, and he doesn't remember her?

Relius and Teleus continue to be the ultimate. No questions. No notes.

I'm seeing other people talk about queerbaiting but tbh that was never my feeling? Even now? It feels very much like MWT just looked at how relationships worked in ancient Greece, and that's what she models it after. That Costis might have had a wife and children wouldn't have changed the fact that he's in love with and partnered to Kamet? Likewise we already knew Relius sleeps with everyone, but that Teleus is only ever with Relius, so it makes sense that Relius has a wife. I also think it makes sense for the captain of the guard to remain unmarried (like...you cannot hold a vow higher than your service to the monarch, style. If you want to be married, you leave the position.) Also we know having multiple lovers isn't unheard of (one of Gen's attendants and Baron Artadorus both have lovers.)

Maybe I'm just being too forgiving idk.

#the queens thief #tqt #geniad #the geniad #moira's pen

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RETURN OF THE THIEF SPOILERS

for real, all my spoilers:

I was V EXCITED to open the book to a new map! that had elephants!

HEIRO  GAVE HIM HER EARRINGS AND NO ONE HAD EVER GIVEN HIM EARRINGS BEFORE

okay I don’t even remember in what context we first heard “Alyta of the gentle rain” but immediately I was like “oh, THE goddess” and it reminded me of “The rain fell on his upturned face, and he wondered if his gods were watching.” which is one of my favorite lines from QoA

I thought nothing could delight me more than Pheris’s affection and admiration for Kamet until I read the phrase “EDDISIAN TATTOOS” AND HAD TO PUT DOWN THE BOOK TO SCREAM

he fuckin! quit! Attolia almost quit! he came THAT CLOSE to moving her back into Eddis’s library!

I read page 221 four times before turning the page.

I’m going to be real tho. I... felt my heart drop when I reached the last page and this was (basically) all there was. it’s very, very petty and I have never invested in a ship like this but. I was hoping for confirmation. I really thought we’d get it. it’s the only thing in the book that even slightly disappointed me and I feel awful for being disappointed.

but TELEUS AND RELIUS! “Someone loves me very much”! God, that was so indescribably lovely

EDIT: also okay hang on, now I reread the last scene with the dancing and I’m realizing that the implication is that Kamet was dancing with Costis before Costis went to dance with his sister, and he went to dance with Teleus in a very obvious moment meant to parallel his and Costis’s relationship with Relius and Teleus’s and I’m actually delighted. I just lost the ability to fucking read towards the end of the book apparently

ALSO LIKE. THE “YEAH OBVIOUSLY COSTIS IS GOING TO RISK HIS LIFE ON AN IMPOSSIBLE JOURNEY FOR KAMET” AND THEN “DO YOU THINK THERE IS THE SINGLE SLIGHTEST EARTHLY CHANCE THAT COSTIS WOULD BE ALIVE AND KAMET WOULD BE KILLED” strike me down

fascinated by the use of names. Halfway through the book we got the very first occurrence of the third-person narration calling Eddis “Helen,” and first time Sophos is Sophos post-his uncle’s death in the narration.

both of Attolia’s jokes at Sophos’s expense had me CACKLING. also, Gen singing The King’s Wedding Night and Sophos’s response

that was the point at the book where I was reading wayyyy too quickly to stop to make even the occasional note. I did LOVE the whole thing with Eugenides surrendering kingship and being like “lol enjoy the Thief” and I outright GASPED when he started just fucking wielding the god’s power like that. damn. also what an incredible way to reveal the MoW’s name

I will undoubtedly have many more thoughts but I’m going to sit back and reflect and probably reread passages/the whole book again before sharing more lo

#rott spoilers #return of the thief spoilers