#like rn the northeast is dealing with lanternflies and they

[darkwood-sleddog]

I'm late getting back to this but invasive species anon who was sad about pigeons - I mean if they're causing problems for native species fair enough, I just think it's sad we abandoned them and it's come to this. I hope we can be as humane as we can with them - same as cats in Aus/NZ - roaming cats are pretty unequivocally hugely harmful to an ecological system that evolved completely separately, so much as poisoning etc is unpalatable, sometimes it comes down to minimizing damage.

I mean I personally don't know much about the impacts of pigeons on native fauna and the environment, but I do enjoy them as a critter, they're fun to interact with and I'd hope that we could keep responsibly kept domesticated (non feral) aviaries going.

I would personally be cautious about poisons though for invasives as poisons also impact native fauna, some of which cannot take the hit/risk etc, as well as responsibly kept domestic animals who may come across it or pick up a poisoned animal by accident.

I think people overall really struggle to deal with the conflicting morality that comes with how we need to deal with invasives. They are told to be compassionate to animals which yes, we should be, but we also need to think and act very decisively for the planet at this time because the "buffer" time we had where we knew these things were causing problems, has been largely wasted with incredibly slow action or straight up inaction. Being able to capture and home cats that can be is a great sentiment, but that one method used alone is not the action that is needed right now.

#not dogs #invasive species #and like for my fellow usaians #boars are so tasty and we will probably never get rid of them #millions in texas alone #but maybe we can eat ourselves out of some of their larger environmental impacts #isnt that just the most american thing ever honestly #people don't want to kill animals that are cute to them or animals that remind them of their beloved pets and i get that #but its like does your compassion also negate the good of this planet #you can have both bc this is nuanced #but people have to be much more forgiving of death in these circumstances then they are now #like rn the northeast is dealing with lanternflies and they #strip our trees clear and impact native grape supply #nobody has a problem stomping on these bugs #but people tend to feel a WAY about mammals even if their impact is the same or worse #just my two cents but i totally agree it needs to be done humanely #the problem is some people's definitions of 'humane' never involves death