#like it's not explictly mentioned but

[rosedom]

yk what. . . i'm really thinking about just—not moving, when i have a cute boy in my lap. thinking about how my cock would be sooo deep in him, and he's left to squirm 'n shiver while i do absolutely nothing to help him.

i'll call him pretty names—my good boy, sweet boy, handsome puppy, alladat good stuff—, of course, but i won't help him move. so it's entirely up to him if he wants to ride me, grind on me, maybe stay still and play with his own neglected dick, or just keep sittin' there lookin' all pretty for me and warming my own cock.

mmmm. cute boy riding me, his thighs straining as he begs for me. or cute boy grinding, not even moving up and down, really, simply undulating his hips above mine. or cute boy sitting there clenching around me as he fingers his cock, hips unconsciously twitching as his legs tremble locked around me. or cute boy not moving at all, wrapping his arms 'round my shoulders and shoving his face into my neck and falling asleep, all full 'n warm !

pls pls pls cute boys in my lap (⁠๑⁠•⁠﹏⁠•⁠) !!!

#tryin smth else #gay #top reader #dom reader #ftm dom #ftm nsft #trans ns/fw #trans nsft #like it's not explictly mentioned but #it's me lmfao ofc it's trans #sub genshin #genshin smut

[kokogami]

"kokohead and shinigami are siblings" people need their harddrives checked. what the fuck are you guys doing with your siblings cause i sure as hell cant relate.

#shini.txt #incest mention #U DONT HAVE TO SHIP THEM!!!! #but they can be friends without a sibling dynamic #and saying theyre like siblings is just. very weird given. stuff #make a sibling HC for characters who dont flirt that much and that explictly maybe.

[catcatb0y]

Is it a conspiracy theory (crack headcanon) to say that Freeze Force was probably the one taking out Burning Rescue members?

Like Kray tells Galo that he sent him to the division withe the highest casualty rate- which notably is NOT Freeze Force (not surprising, given the fact that they are largely shown going up against non-combative Burnish with excessive force), but rather Burning Rescue.

The team that Vulcan says uses "old tech," the team that is well known and loved throughout Promepolis, the team that DOESN'T HAVE COMBAT GEAR (and is not authorized to fight against Burnish)-

Also CONVIENTLY the team that all sees Burnish as humans-

You know, it's odd. Burning Rescue CERTAINLY does dangerous work... but the "highest casualty rate"... In addition to the way that Freeze Force treats ACTUAL (non-Burnish) civilians- with Vulcan trying to arrest Galo in the first scene, the way that he arrests Pizza Guy (Burnish) AND Pizza Owner (Non-Burnish), the very blatant criticization of the Police Force ("That's for the law to decide")

Not only was the Burning Rescue not invited on to or told about the migration, they show specific sympathy for the Burnish, and CONVIENTLY have the highest casualty rate despite Freeze Force- allegedly- being combatant (compared to Burning Rescue risking Freeze Force fury by engaing with Mad Burnish) in ADDITION to Freeze Force (and Kray Foresight) having no qualms putting innocent non-Burnish through the same treatment as Burnish (I.e. it's less a matter of anti-Burnish discrimination and more of a mass dehumanization moment)

Like... yeah, Burning Rescue does dangerous work. Yeah, it's understandable that Galo would get injured and come back. Possibly coincidental that Kray assigned Galo to the same division as Ignis (who has SOME clear history with Vulcan/Freeze Force), Aina (Heiris' younger sister), and an entire team of Burnish sympathizers (one of which (Varys) has a mutation of his own (super strength)), but at the same time there are a LOT of human rights violations (and police critique) both explicitly stated and heavily implied.

I'm just saying... Ignis knew how to deal with Vulcan rather well for that being a "first time" situation... Vulcan being all too happy to use his authority to arrest non-Burnish civilians... A non combative team somehow having the highest casualty rate...

#promare #I mean given the way that freeze force acts #and Kray's disposition #not to MENTION #Vulcan was shown TWICE arresting non-Burnish civilians #Galo and the Pizza Shop Owner #he throws around 'that's for the law to decide' both times- even though Ignis talks him down from arresting Galo #like that scene implies that's NOT the first time Vulcan tried to imprison a member of Burning Rescue #don't get me wrong #firefighting is a dangerous job #especially with sentient flames and crumbling eighteen story buildings and shit #BUT #there is so much that gets left up in the air #in terms of past Promare lore #and the way that Ignis and Vulcan interact #the way that the whole team is explictly shown sympathizing with and humanizing the Burnish #as well as how nervous they are when Freeze Force shows up #there HAS to be more between Burning Rescue and Freeze Force #especially Ignis and Vulcan #'that's for the law/court to decide' carries SO much unexplored weight #I want sit one on one with every person who had anything to do with Promare lore and play word games with them SO bad

[daughteroftheunspeakable]

o yeah @arthurtxt is my personal for mutuals btw <3

#not like explictly just for mutuals but.mostly yeah #havent mentioned in awhile i should probably put this back in my pinned

[overthinkingtaleblr]

i headcanon that in the headcanon that billy has bird wings (sometimes specifically pigeon wings), johnny ghost is slightly afraid of him.

because. birds scare him

This is a PHENOMENAL Headcanon and it really helps with consistency and drawing the world a little closer together, especially explaining why PIE usually only goes to the Acachalla house when Billy is somewhere else (a coincidence occurring bc HG played most the ghosts). On one hand I absolutely agree and think that makes perfect sense and when I was younger I would’ve implemented it immediately to my own hcs

But now that I know I have phobias and have to deal with how inconsistent they are I’m projecting that onto ghost now. It would make sense if he was scared of Billy because he had wings but from what I’ve experienced, nothing makes sense. I want him to be so inconsistently scared of things that it’s driving him and everyone around him crazy. (I was going to go into detail about it but the long and short is: for me, sometimes the funny things are worse, and sometimes the things trying to be scary are the WORST.)

Anyways I think Ghost would HATE the horror movie ‘the Birds’…

#taleblr #johnny ghost #for anyone wondering it’s zombies. my most annoying phobia is zombies #had a panic attack so bad after watching a review of Mom and Pop that I thought I was having a stroke 🫠 #as a horror fan it sucks but i can live with it and I try not to make a big deal about it #FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DONT KNOW MOM AND POP STARS NICK CAGE AND NEVER EVEN EXPLICTLY MENTIONS ZOMBIES #but if you’ve done research you’ll recognize the traits of the murderous characters as zombie-like #basically a pathological instinct for parents to kill their children triggers in everybody all at once #though it isn’t instantaneous for everyone the stark constrast on how they act before and after #and having to see children plead for their lives to the people who are supposed to protect them #knowing full well that the true problem is an act of nature and not one words alone will ever be able to stop #… it’s close enough to zombies #the Worst aspects of zombies

[inbarfink]

So the AA Fandom has no shortage of jokes about how our favorite Anime Laywers generally prioritize stuff like the Power of Friendship above more mundane concerns like 'getting paid for doing their job' but...seriously now, how often do they actually get paid for lawyering?

Well, welcome to...

The Big Overview of WAA Lawyers and Actually Getting Paid!!

The vast majority of AA Cases do not discuss payments for legal services explictly, so I will be Ranking how probable I feel it is the Lawyers got Paid. With a 0 standing for 'explictly and unambigiously did not get paid' and 1 standing for 'explictly and unambigiously did get paid'

The First Turnabout

That's an easy one, it is actually explicitly mentioned that no, Larry did not pay Phoenix for his services as a Lawyer.

And so, my first trial came to a close. Larry slapped me on the back and said, "Gee, Nick, it's good to have friends!" But I'm pretty sure he's not going to pay us. Unless you count the clock he gave Mia.

Which is brought up again months later during 'Turnabout Goodbyes'

Butz: Whoa… Nick. S-so, is that why you helped me out for free? Phoenix: Uh… yes. I helped you because I believed in you. (Except I don't remember saying I'd do it for free…)

So Phoenix expected and wanted to get paid, but he’s just, like, not assertive enough to get his money off Larry. And thus a long legacy of Not Getting Money was born!

Probability of Getting Paid: 0

Turnabout Sisters

Okay, so the subject of money does not come up directly in ‘Turnabout Sisters’ but like… Maya does not seem to have a lot of liquid funds on her at this point. For most of the games she generally relays on Phoenix to pay for things for her. At best right now she is semi-dependent on Morgan for cash - and considering her motivations, she probably came out with some excuse like ‘oooh Mystic Maya must prove her independence in such a dire situation or something, the whole Fey Family is broke we can’t afford to give you any more money I feel so bad ooooh’.

So I think if Phoenix got paid for defending her that was mostly a token symbolic gesture of gratitude more than actually anything that’ll help him pay the rent. And obviously Phoenix wouldn’t gain anything if he paid himself for that second trial of the case lol

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.1

Turnabout Samurai

Okay, so this is the first case where I think it is more likely than not Phoenix Actually Got Paid. There’s nothing textual, but I think with the implications of Phoenix starting the case fretting over how to pay the rent:

Phoenix: A month has passed since my trial. Mia's murder was the talk of the town for some time… But no one paid any attention to the Wright & Co. Law Offices… How am I going to pay the rent this month? Maya: It'll be okay. I'm sure some big client is just around the corner! Phoenix: Hmph.

And THEN his new Client is Will Powers who is:

a fairly sucessful actor whose life and career seems to be unglamorous but financially stable.

the first cilent Phoenix has who isn't a friend, a relative-of-a-friend or Literally Himself

generally just a really nice and wholesome guy.

It seems pretty likely to me that Phoenix and Maya got paid for this one!

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.8

Turnabout Goodbyes

OKAY so, I've seen folks say that Phoenix would've probably done this for free cause he sees this whole thing as repaying a debt for Being Nice to Him in Fourth Grade because as we all know, Phoenix is a Certified Ridiculous Human Being.

Phoenix: This is my chance to finally pay you back. Maya: Pay him back…? Edgeworth: Pay me back? For what? I don't remember ever doing anything for you. Phoenix: Never mind… I guess you don't really need to know.

Buuuuut... Larry at the time was also part of that Class Trial Bestie Pact and Phoenix did expect him to pay I mean Larry is not the Love of His Life but still.

And more important, this case ALSO established that Miles has a problem expressing gratitude and overcompensate using financial gifts.

Phoenix: Thank you. Oh, wait! Umm… I was wondering, how much is bail going to be? Gumshoe: Don't worry about that. Mr. Edgeworth is posting the whole amount. Phoenix: What? Edgeworth…? Gumshoe: Didn't I tell you? He's grateful to her for what she did. Alright, pal. Well don't forget to go pick her up, okay? Phoenix: (Hmm… Maybe I can get Edgeworth to pay this month's rent, too…)

So I feel, like, regardless of what Phoenix wanted - at the end of this trial - Miles IS going to make sure he is GETTING PAID. Dude was probably shoving checks into his mailbox like a full month after the trial concluded.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.9

Rise from the Ashes

So... the person who initially hires Phoenix to the case is Ema Skye, a 16 year old girl whose main funds are her allowance. And Phoenix was kinda willfully ignoring his financial situation at the start and only took this case for sentimental reasons. (just more evidence that Miles was STILL sending him payments for 'Goodbyes' lol)

It's been two months since Maya left the office… Two months without a single trial. I've had offers… But none I took. That is… until the day that girl showed up.

However he does get 'formally requested' by her probably-well-off-considering-prosecutors-in-this-series older sister shortly thereafter.

Lana: … Mr. Wright? Phoenix: Y-yes? Lana: I believe our discussion here is ended. The rest… I leave to you. Phoenix: …! Um… you mean, you're requesting my services as your defense? Lana: Don't lose any sleep over it. Your client has confessed, after all. The case is over. Phoenix: Right… I'll do what I can to get to the bottom of this. Lana: …

And after a very long and harrowing journey of being in-conflict with his own client, Lana did end up being very grateful for what he did. And again, this case espacially emphasizes that 'prosecutors make the big bucks' - so she had both the means and will to pay him.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.6

The Lost Turnabout

Alrighty, so, Maggey is generally a nice girl and also a fangirl of Phoenix Wright and that gives her an incentive to support him financially...

Actually, I really love to watch court proceedings, and I always root for you to win! When I'm off duty, I like to come here and…

But with how unlucky she is, that might imply that she could have Money Troubles. Although on the other hand she at least has a stable job at the moment... But on the other OTHER hand she does mention how all the other lawyers 'laughed her off'

Just when I thought all hope was lost; when all the other lawyers had laughed me off… "Leave it to me!" you said! You! The one and only Phoenix Wright came to save the day! And just like that, I was moved to tears, sir! I'll never forget what you're doing for me, EVER!

Which usually I wouldn't note as a financial thing. Usually when an AA Defendant is like 'oooh I have no one else to turn too, all the other lawyers turned me down......" this is because the case is considered too impossible to win or Unbearably Wacky (or some sort of conspiracy like with Maya in 'Sisters'). But, like, this is a Tutorial Case. Phoenix won that one with Fucking Amnesia. The 'impossibility' of the case was not the issue, so, yeah, it might legitimately be the money?

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.4

Reunion, and Turnabout

It's Maya Murder Trial Time Again! Pretty much the same as before with the two added factors being:

Maya is now officially employed in the Wright & Co. Law Offices during the duration of the trial.

AFTER the Trial, when Morgan is like, in jail - Maya might have a bit more acess to her family funds. Although they are established to Not Be Doing Well Financially in general....

A piece of cloth with a ton of finely-written characters jammed onto it. Probably esoteric knowledge only mediums should know. …Hmm, let's see… Here's one in English… It says… "100 Ways to Save Money". … Being a medium sounds like a rough way of life…

I think all in all these kinda even out to the same Chances of Getting Paid at last time??

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.1

Turnabout Big Top

So if you ever start discussing how pointless the AA 'middle cases' are - just remember this one crucial detail; they are the most reliable way Phoenix Wright gets food on his plate! We once again have a stranger (that Phoenix won't feel obligated to defend for free) that is very explictly Fabulously Wealthy.

He's not as nicey-nice as Will Powers is but I feel like paying Phoenix's legal fees is not something Max will bet an eye at.

Phoenix: It's a table for guests… There are some papers scattered on top. Maya: Ah! Look at this! Max's salary is written on this piece of paper. YIKES! Phoenix: W-What is it? Maya: I didn't know a magician… This salary is incredible! Phoenix: (She looks like she's about ready to pass out from shock…) How much is it!? How much is it!? T-T-THAT MUCH!? Maya: Incredible, huh? Phoenix: You can say that again.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.7

Farewell, My Turnabout

Okay so this is the Big One. This one’s a really complicated one to determine.

Let’s just get the first thing out of the way, the fact that Phoenix “”lost”” the case does not matter one way or another. Criminal Defense Lawyers, as a general rule, do not work on a Contingency Fee Basis. That means they are paid regardless of the result of the trial. So if this was a normal trial, Phoenix would probably be paid.

But this was not a normal trial, was it?

Phoenix was FORCED to work as a Defense Attorney due to a KIDNAPPER. And, like, my first instinct is ‘if you are already forcing someone to work via criminal means, why the hell would you also pay them??’ 

Buuuuut….. This is MY instinct, not the instinct of goddam Shelly De Killer. 

Since Shelly’s whole thing is being the Honorable Assassin, and he has some level of respect towards Phoenix as like a Fellow Professional. I can see him thinking maybe wanting Phoenix to get paid for the work he is Coercing Him To Do Under Threat of Murdering His Best Friend for the sake of Honor. 

But also also, Phoenix’s terms are not officially with De Killer, it’s with This Asshole!

And Matt Engarde is absolutely the kind of guy to casually take advantage of Phoenix’s frantic ‘please please just let me be your lawyer or my Friend is gonna Die!’ thing where, like, obviously getting paid is NOT gonna cross through Phoenix’s head atm in order to not pay/severely underpay the guy even though he can obviously afford it.

All in all, things are not looking good for this case’s probability, which is a shame considering how it ends.

Powers: Um, anyway… So, who's paying for this lovely dinner party? Maya: As if you need to ask! Everyone say, "Thank you" to Nick! Phoenix: Huh? Gumshoe: Ah, yeah… I'm kinda at the point where I can't even buy instant noodles, pal. So I kinda already put your name on the bill.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.3

Turnabout Memories

First time covering a Lawyer that’s not Phoenix!

Now, Mia’s client in this case is a college student who probably doesn't have tons of personal funds, and considering her own motivations for taking on the case she probably would’ve done it for free but…

At the time she was employed at the Grossberg Law Offices, and Phoenix hired just the office in general and then Mia took over the case just last night.

Grossberg: Still, you surprised me… What, with your earnest request last night… "Let me handle this case!" you suddenly said. And quite forcefully, too! Mia: I just found out yesterday. About the case, I mean.

So... really this is just the Vibes I get from the Grossberg Law Offices, being generally the more professional and by-the-book law offices compared to the utter chaotic energy of Wright and Co, that makes me assume that they usually reliably charge their clients and pay their lawyers.

There’s some evidence further down the line (which we’ll get to soon) that some of their lawyers do some pro-bono work - but I dunno if Phoenix’s case was extreme enough to necessitate that (I mean he might be a broke college student but his family would probably help him with the legal funds although that assumes they even exist) . So my assumption is that Mia probably did get paid. Probably?

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.75

The Stolen Turnabout

So, Ron DeLite used to really financially struggle to keep up with his wife’s shopaholic habits - but that seems to have stabilized ever since his ‘benefactor’ showed up. So I’d assume he still has some funds left to pay his lawyer. I mean I guess it won’t be totally implausible if Desiree did manage to blow through them all…. Or maybe being a a high-spending shopaholic means that she’d want to pay extravagantly for her lawyer as well?

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.7

Recipe for Turnabout

It’s Maggey again! And now she’s:

Closer to a friend, or at least a friend-of-friend. Rather than Just Another Client.

Is probably in a more dire financial state than before, on account of being unemployed and also in jail for the last two months.

Also being a waitress isn’t that prestigious a job anyways 

And if anyone is gonna help her cover her legal fees it could only be Gumshoe which… does not bode well to anyone involved!

Pissed at Phoenix cause it took her some time to realize that no, that guy who got her found guilty two months ago is not him

So basically everything that changed since her last trial makes it less likely that Phoenix charged for his legal services. I'm sure she'd try her best by the end, but Phoenix might just wave it off to save everyone a headache.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.3

Turnabout Beginnings

So first things first I want to reiterate that Criminal Defense Attorneys generally get paid regardless of if they ‘win’ and while I couldn’t find any concrete statements about the matter - I believe they get paid even if their clients die mid-trial??? I mean, the legal fees just get added to their posthumous debts? So the lawyer would hypothetically be able to claim their due payment from the deceased’s remaining funds and possessions. If they wanted to, that is…

Cause, well, this is why I said the Grossberg Law Offices might do some pro-bono cases. Terry Fawles was, like, a part-time tutor who has been incarcerated for the last five years. If he has any family or friends outside that could help him with his legal fees, he never mentions them. 

So I’m really not sure if he bought Mia services or if she volunteered to do this pro-bono after hearing he had no options for legal representations out of concern for, like, prisoners rights. 

And even if he was supposed to pay Mia for her service, after the grim ending of the case - I’m not sure if she would’ve even tried to pursue getting her legal fees from Fawles’ posthumously/from his next of kin. From how deeply traumatized she was by that trial, I think that would’ve only made her feel worse about the whole situation. 

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.05

Bridge to the Turnabout

Iris is a nun from a small temple that is mentioned to not-be-doing-so-hot (cause it’s tied with the Kurain Channeling Technique and it’s been on a downturn since DL-6), but she does have at least enough personal funds to have her own cell-phone and occasionally go into town. So it’s not a lot, but I think it’s enough to get Phoenix at least a a symbolic token-of-gratitude payment.

Also, it might be possible Phoenix will wave off the fees due to the Personal Connection to the case. You know, he was doing this primarily to Uncover the Truth and get some personal closure for the Dahlia mess.... Or maybe not, cause he did still get paid (or tried to get paid, or forced to get paid) to save his two Fourth-Grade-Life-Debt Childhood Best Friends in court?

(And I do mean just Phoenix, Miles probably would never charge for his services as ‘acting defense attorney’, we don’t need that farce to get any farcier)

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.3

Turnabout Trump

Now this is a complicated one, let us list the factors here one-by-one:

1. As per Apollo’s comment in the next episode, the Gavin Law Offices probably operated strictly quid pro quo.

(Good-bye, quid pro quo. Hello pro bono. sigh)

2. Phoenix is supposedly friends with the boss of the Agency. And in reality, Kritoph Gavin has a very VERY vested interest in making sure the trial goes According to Plan. Incentivising him to at least give Phoenix a discount.

3. Phoenix is also not doing that great financially right now. 

4. Oh right, that entire law agency disbanded once the boss got arrested at the end of the trial!

…Speaking of which, I may be out of a job. I work for Gavin Law Offices, after all. (I still can't believe I just saw Mr. Gavin get led away in handcuffs…)

I think it is most likely that Phoenix got some sort of “”Friend”” Discount from Kristoph. But I really don’t know what happens if an entire law firm gets disbanded right after the trial cause the owner got arrested as a result of it. It probably depends on whether Phoenix was in agreement with the Gavin Law Offices who then assigned Apollo on the case or if Phoenix had an agreement with Apollo directly.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.5

Turnabout Corner

Oh hey, look! Another rare case of an Ace Attorney that actually discusses the issue of money directly!

Well, I mean we know how much Apollo got paid for solving the case of Phoenix’s accident and Trucy’s panties (nothing) and for solving Eldoon’s Noodle Cart Theft (a free bowl of ramen). We don’t see them directly discuss the subject of payment regarding Apollo’s Actual Job…

Apollo: Your request… let me guess, something's been stolen? Alita: Um, your flyer… It says "now defending" so I thought… Apollo: Whaaaat!? You mean, you mean you want me to defend you? Me? Trucy: Maybe you can tell us what happened? Were you hit by a car? Did someone steal your stand? Or your panties? Alita: No! No… I'm not the client, actually. The client would be my… well, my fiancé, I suppose you'd call him. Apollo: Fiancé…? What happened to him, then? Alita: He was arrested this morning. The charge… was murder.

But as he was complaining before about not only being pigeonholed as some sort of a detective, but also not getting paid for anything…

Um… I was wondering when I get paid? We solved the case of your accident, and um, found a missing article of clothing.

And then getting this job and being so happy about it...

Trucy: Polly! You look as happy as a clam in its shell. Apollo: For a lawyer this is it, the place where the battle begins!

Implies that He’s Getting Paid - just as much as with Phoenix’s rent stuff in ‘Turnabout Samurai’ if not more. 

Also, I don’t think the fact that the person who hired him wanted him to fail and is now going to prison is a factor here.

As I already mentioned, Defense Attorneys get paid regardless of the outcome of a trial and logically that would apply both when they lose and when they win. Plus, I am pretty sure Alita filed her request officially through Wocky’s name or the Kitaki family in general and they were obviously very grateful for what Apollo did, and they had both the wins and wills to pay him.

So let’s give a big round of applause for Apollo Justice, the WAA Lawyer most likely to get paid!

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.99

Turnabout Serenade

These kind of showbiz-focused Middle Cases are generally pretty good for Getting Paid Probabilities, but this case is a bit more complicated.

Cause the plot of this case hinges on Machi being so desperate for money that he was willing to risk death via cocoon smuggling,

Situation… I cannot explain. But money. I needed. Very much money.

That doesn’t necessarily mean he was unable to afford a lawyer - without details of why exactly he needed that Sweet, Sweet Cocoon Money we can’t be sure.  But it’s plausible that hiring Apollo was not out of his price range but he was desperate for something far more expensive. 

Considering his young age and… you know, until the final day of the trial he pretended to not understand a word of English, it’s also possible hiring Apollo was a matter handled by Lamirior and/or the duo’s agency. Both of which will probably feel committed to Actually Paying, each from their own angle. 

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.7

Turnabout Succession

Now, HERE’S a complicated one! 

Going generally over the usual stuff, Vera is a pretty nice person and she’s clearly grateful for what Apollo and Trucy did for her. And while the Misham Family was driven into forgeries by financial desperation, at the present-time they seem stable enough that Vera could at least afford the rates of the WAA. If this was just another case, it’ll get like a solid 0.7 at minimum. Pretty typical stuff by now.

But this isn’t just one more ordinary case. This a weird sort of ‘Test Trial’ for the Jurist System with every factor - including the Defendant and the Attorney - arranged by Phoenix’s weird little committee.

Well, for one, I'll be chair of the Jurist System Simulated Court Committee. The chair constructs the ideal situation… choosing the case, the jurist candidates… …even the judge and the courtroom.

Apollo: So… what kind of case is the trial simulation about? Phoenix: Well, since it is the first run through of a new system, I wanted something simple. Trucy: Good thinking! No sense wearing yourself out on something too serious! Phoenix: True. The case is a murder. Apollo: That's not simple at all!! Trucy: By "simple", did you mean that the defendant is… Phoenix: …Guilty. Yes. Most likely. …So, good luck, Apollo. Apollo: Um… with what? Phoenix: With the trial tomorrow. You're defending, of course. Recall that I said it had something to do with you.

So I guess the question here, did Phoenix basically make Vera officially hire Apollo? Did the committee hire Apollo and they’re the one paying him? Is this another case of Phoenix trolling Apollo into doing Free Volunteer Work for him?

Honestly I wouldn’t put that past the AA4 version of Phoenix..............but also if he did that I doubt he would’ve missed a chance to crack a joke at Apollo’s expense about that. 

...You know, I started this thread of thought with the thought I’m arguing for a lower Getting Paid score for this case but I think I just talked myself into increasing the probability.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.8

Also bonus round: THE TRIAL OF SHADI ENIGMAR!

Zero fucking chances Phoenix got paid on this one. HIS CLIENT DISAPPEARED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COURT PROCEEDING! And even if Phoenix gets paid before a trial is concluded (unlikely, since he didn’t know Larry wasn’t paying him until after the case was closed), he was his attorney for like half-a-day before he disappeared so wouldn’t have much of a chance either way.  And considering Zak’s character (and how he also tried to sabotage Phoenix’s current Poker-based career seven years after that), I doubt he put that much thought into Phoenix and his financial considerations to give him a down payment in case he had to to do his disappearnce act or whatever. The only thing Zak left Phoenix with when he left was his goddam abandoned child and ONE LESS BADGE!

So I think this case deserves a very special score!

Probability of Getting Paid: -1

Turnabout Countdown

It’s time for Athena’s first case! Or second case, depending on how you look at it.

Now, one of the major ways that Dual Destinies is gonna shake this Deep Serious Analysis up is that before we had, like, one Active Full-Time Lawyer at any time (maybe with a backup lawyer for Flashback Cases), and we now have Three Different Lawyers actively working together on the same cases. My main concern is primarily not which WAA Lawyers get paid for these cases, but IF any of them got paid at all. Still, shenanigans of cases changing hands officially and unofficially are gonna play a factor in my analysis as well.

And it’s here right from the start! We once again have a Lawyer defending their bestest friend in the whole world, and while some people’s instincts might suggest that means that Defense was for free, well… First things first, we already established Precedence for that back in the first trial of the first game with Larry (not for Lawyers getting paid by their friends, but at least expecting payment) and Juniper’s family is probably doing Just Fine considering she attends this super-fancy-pant prestigious Lawyer High School - so she would want to financially support Athena I would think.

And ALSO, Juniper technically didn’t hire Athena, Apollo was the one supposed to defend Junie in court at first. And although Juniper is… growing closer to Apollo at this point in canon, I don't think it's quite the ‘defend me in court for Free’ point of their relationship, compared to where Juniper and Athena are at. So this is just, like, one extra point to the Final Score!

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.7

The Monstrous Turnabout

So in this episode, we actually have two different jobs we need to make sure if Apollo actually got paid for. We have the actual criminal defense case, and we also have Babysitting Trucy.

Trucy: Oh, we'd better hurry. Doesn't look Daddy's going to make it, so let's get going. Apollo: Huh? Where are we going? What about the job he mentioned? Trucy: This IS the job, Polly! You're supposed to keep me company today! Now, come on! Apollo: Another day of not being a lawyer. Should've seen this coming. Trucy: Well, this is the "Wright ANYTHING Agency," y'know. And there's no law-related work at the moment, so… Apollo: (Tell me again why I chose to "work" here?) Where is Mr. Wright, anyway?

That being said, Phoenix might still be a bit of a troll but the WAA is doing a lot better financially now that Trucy has those Sweet Gramarye rights and he’s not quite as mean to Apollo as he was back in Hobomode. So I get a feeling that even with this little runaround, Apollo is probably at least getting paid for chaperoning Trucy around?? Probably?

The actual case is actually a lot more clear cut. It is directly mentioned that Damian Tenma could probably afford lawyers much more prestigious than the WAA, it’s just a matter of the WAA being the only ones crazy enough to take on this ‘doomed’ case. 

Trucy: Apollo! Maybe this is your chance. Apollo: Chance for what? Trucy: To do the right thing and defend Jinxie's dad in court! Apollo: Who, me? Wouldn't a man like Mayor Tenma have access to more experienced lawyers? Jinxie: Umm… You wanna know what the detectives said? They doubted there was a lawyer who could get a not-guilty verdict in this one.

And with Mayor Tenma’s personality being based around being almost overly-generous and grateful…

Tenma: How… incredibly… RUDE! Apollo: Umm, sorry. Did I do something to offend you? Tenma: A visitor when all others shun me like a common criminal! And here I am with nothing to offer! I am the epitome of rude! Apollo: (………Wait, so he wasn't mad at me?)

I feel like it is almost a certainty that Apollo and Athena did get paid for this case! 

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.85

Turnabout Academy

Okay so, it’s Junie again! Or Junie for the first time depending on how you look at it!

So all of the points I already brought up about Juniper from ‘Countdown’ still apply (save for the stuff about Apollo, of course) but ALSO this is right when Athena and Juniper reunited and their whole emotional arc in this case is about Athena feeling Juniper is being Uncharacteristically Cold and Distant towards her. So defending her on a Friend Discount would be a bit strange at this point. Maybe I can see Athena trying to insist she’d do it for free but Juniper refused?

Although I think that IS a bit weird that they had this big whole scene with Professor ScaryStatue taking over Juniper’s case and the issue of payment doesn’t even come up in passing. I mean, yes obviously, the issues of Trust and Truth and Aristotle Means being Sus as Fuck are the important things in this narrative but I’m suprised there’s not even a mention in passing. Like Means accusing Athena and Apollo of wanting this case back for the Money but they refute him???

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.8

The Cosmic Turnabout

Okay, look, I know I keep bringing up the Larry Precedence but it really IS quite relevant. If Actual Overly-Sentimental Human Disaster Phoenix Wright tried to charge a rate for his childhood best friend who was drifting through life doing weird odd jobs at that time. - Then Apollo, who is generally more practical minded, is probably going to charge a rate for his older acquaintance with the stable Astronaut Job. And while Solomon is a bit of a Space Larry, I don’t think he’d try and avoid the payment in quite the same way. Probably.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.7

Turnabout for Tomorrow

This trial has Phoenix defending one of his own employees in a trial forced on by a hostage situation. I feel silly even extending this paragraph any longer. 

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.01

Turnabout Reclaimed

First things first, yes, an Orca cannot pay for an attorney - but I assume that the person who hired Phoenix is officially Sasha Buckler. Who IS a human being with her own funds capable of hiring a lawyer. Especially as we know that other lawyers turned her down specifically because her case is ridiculous (and not for financial reasons). 

Phoenix: What's the real reason you picked me, Sasha? Buckler: …Well, to be honest, I asked a whole slew of lawyers, but they all refused. They said stuff like, "There's no merit to taking your case," or "I'm not sure I can help." They're all as cruel as sharks, with hearts punier than whitebait!

She does mention doing a performance as thanks at the ending of the trial but that’s probably no replacement for Actual Money.

But I think most notable for our analysis about this case, is not actually any of the Orca stuff - it’s this exchange right here.

Blackquill: Today, the orca. Tomorrow, Sasha Buckler. You intend to save them both? Hmph. You say you "believe" in your clients, but isn't money really your true motivation? Why not admit you're only doing this for your own benefit? I could understand that much more readily than your empty, righteous talk. Athena: Our own benefit?! That's not why we're doing it! Phoenix: Now, Athena. Try not to let him get to you.

Yet another rare case of the game Acknowledging Lawyers Are Paid As a General Rule! And notably, when Phoenix and Athena deny it, they don’t deny the fact that they are getting paid - just that it’s not why they’re doing this. This is not exactly an explicit confirmation of Getting Paid to get the score up to a full 1, but it’s probably as close as we’re gonna get. 

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.95

The Foreign Turnabout

Okay, so Phoenix basically just bursted into the Courtroom and bluffed his way onto the empty defense bench despite the protests of his own so-called Client. Said client also only started unlearning his Defense-Attorney-Hate during that same trial. And is ALSO a tiny little child who has to work part time as a tour-guide to make end’s meet. I highly doubt Phoenix asked for anything more than, like, a very token rate or maybe a discount on his next tour. 

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.1

The Magical Turnabout

Considering how this case has a WAA Lawyer defending the actual CEO of the WAA, I highly doubt the WAA got any money from it. But maybe Trucy could give him some of her personal funds as a token of gratitude?

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.2

The Rite of Turnabout

It’s MAYA TIME again! And while some consideration has to go to her bond with Phoenix or the possibility of some sort of Frequent Accused card the WAA issued for her - the fact that she is not currently a Coworker at the law office and has been an Actual Independent Adult for quite some time now means it is actually a lot more likely she’s able to pay Phoenix now than in any case in the Original Trilogy!

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.5

Turnabout Storyteller

This one’s a pretty average case. The Defendant is not a total stranger, but he is more of a friend-of-a-friend (and Simon was originally planning to get Apollo or Phoenix into the courtroom so the connection was even more distant when he contacted the WAA). He seems to be doing alright financially with his own noodle business, and he’s a pretty alright kinda guy. The only possible concern is that he’s too totally slushed to remember he’s supposed to pay his attorney. But then again, Simon might be ‘officially’ the one who hired the lawyer for the case.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.6

Turnabout Revolution

It’s time for the THREE CASES IN ONE SPECIAL!! Because we don’t just need to consider Dhurke’s trial, I think it’s only appropriate that we take into account both Apollo and Phoenix’s side of the civil case. They are both WAA Lawyers, after all.

On Apollo’s side, he is defending Datz Are'bal, an escaped prisoner/wanted revolutionary criminal in his own country hiding away in an abandoned building and making homemade lizard skewers for food- but Datz did apparently enter Japanifornia legally via legitimate means.

Apollo: What are the charges this time? Datz: Unauthorized entry, or something like that. They think I'm an illegal alien! And I can't prove otherwise ‘cause I lost my passport! Trucy: Is there any way they'd let you go? Datz: Not without my passport… If only I had it! Dhurke, AJ! You gotta find my passport! Apollo: …All right, we'll find it. (One more thing to add to our to-do list. Now, where might Datz's passport be?)

So he presumably has some sort of funds to pay Apollo for his legal services, at least a little bit. 

And with him being Dhurke’s best friend and knowing that he also struggled financially to make end’s meet as a defense attorney at first - I would like to think that’ll incentivise him to support Apollo financially if he can?

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.7

Meanwhile on Phoenix’s side, while Phoenix uses the word ‘hire’ when talking about working for Atishon. Phoenix was once again coerced via kidnapping into the position of attorney. 

And THIS time, there is no Assassin with a Code of Honor who might consider paying Phoenix a fair rate. Both Atishon and his ‘benefactor’ are sleazeballs who would not pay Phoenix a dime if they can get away with it. Plus, with this being a civil case, there might actually be a Contingency Basis going on when Phoenix basically quit and then they lose.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.001

And finally, the grand event of this case - the Trial of Dhurke! 

So… Can a summoned undead spirit pay for an attorney? I suppose it’s probably easier in Khura'in than in other places. And it’ll mostly work the same as if the client died before the case finished, right? It’ll be considered a debt to be carried by their next of kin. Who in this case will be Nahyuta… but also maybe Apollo? Still, considering all of Dhurke’s living family ranges between ‘wealthy and well-respected’ and ‘Literal Royalty’ - I’m going to assume they’d be more than happy then to pay their Weird Brother for his help. 

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.75

Turnabout Time Traveler

And here we are! The last case, and a relatively straightforward one at that - at least compared to the last one lol!

Ellen herself does not have many funds as a housemaid, it seems - but since she literally just married one of the richest inventors in the world, I assume her husband is gonna cover the legal fees. The WAA Legal Team and Also Edgeworth and Ema also got an invite to the Wedding but I assume this is not instead of actual payment?

That is, of course, unless it’s technically Larry who hired Phoenix actually.

Then he’s never getting the goddam money he deserves for his labor.

Probability of Getting Paid: 0.7

Average Probability Score for All Cases (not counting the Zak Bonus Round): 0.51721875

So what have we learned today? I think that while the WAA’s reputation for basically giving away legal services for free is not entirely unearned, it is perhaps somewhat exaggerated. While there’s certainly a lot of Shennanigans and their rates are probably not high (especially not for people they know), they still get paid for a decent amount of high-profile cases. I mean, this Getting Paid Probability Score is over the 50% mark at least....

And… the odd thing is that the First Turnabout really is the only time the subject of the lawyer getting paid is really brought up directly. I get that it might, y’know, ruin the Drama if we acknowledge that our Brave Heroes are getting paid to save people from being convicted of a crime they didn’t commit - or on the other hand of the equation, that they should get paid cause They Need Money to Live. But still…

Is the fact that the only time payment is brought up directly is when Larry isn’t paying Phoenix a bad sign for the general financial situation of our Anime Lawyers? Or is it actually a good sign? Like, that they only mention Larry not paying implying that every time it is not mentioned that means the client did pay them?

#ace attorney #aa #pwaa #phoenix wright #phoenix wright ace attorney #gyakuten saiban #aa1 #aa2 #aa3 #aa4 #aa5 #aa6 #justice for all #ace attorney justice for all #aa jfa #trials and tribulations #apollo justice #apollo justice ace attorney #ajaa #dual destinies #gyakuten saiban 4 #gyakuten saiban 5 #spirit of justice #aa soj

[strangesmallbard]

i 100% understand the impulse to obsess over riley keough and lily gladstone's insane chemistry in "under the bridge," but uh. i think it's actually wildly inapppropriate to interact with this dynamic like a ship in a typical fandom. this show is about the real-life murder of a 14-year-old girl, which was largely motivated by racism—an aspect the show discusses explictly and carefully unpacks. like, yes, the show is fictionalized true crime drama, and i know tumblr is the Fandom Website, etc. but it's altogether jarring to click on the tag and only see shipping posts, with reena virk's story mentioned as an afterthought in headcanons and fic ideas. i think asking folks to show more tact when posting about this show on the internet is perhaps okay. and i encourage everyone to learn the real story of reena virk and the circumstances surrounding her murder.

#the show is very good btw; and it also had family involvement. which is essential for any fictionalized true crime these days #yell.txt

[hello-nichya-here]

Azula antis be like: "I can excuse a blind character sensing whether someone is lying by feeling their pulse that vibrates through the ground miles afar from her but I draw the line at good mental health facilities being a thing. That's just unrealistic"

And like... in what way is some bullshit like the asylum she was sent to in the comics in ANY WAY "realistc" considering the context of how things are explictly shown to work in the world of Avatar?

At the Boiling Rock, we are explictly told there's an inmate that is trying to deal with his anger issues. We also see in "The Guru" that Aang is processing his grief and trauma through meditation and opening his chakras. Katara took an important step in processing her grief through a life changing field trip. Toph was starting to get over some of her complexes by finally being allowed to have friends. We see both Zuko and And spend whole episodes hallucinating and both are fixed by sleeping!

Why is Azula the only character that needs to get "help" in a horror movie style when everyone benefits from the fact that THEIR WORLD OPERATES IN THE HOPEFUL "LOVE, FRIENDSHIP AND KINDNESS FIX EVERYTHING" MOST KID SHOWS DO?

Not to mention, Azula is a princess and a prodigy that was only ever defeated by Zuko and the Gaang - keeping her "out of sight and out of mind" is begging for trouble because either she'll eventually recover on her own and gain herself some powerful allies like she did in Ba Sing OR someone will take advantage of the fact that such a powerful person is so emotionally vulnerable and use her as a pawn in their own game, Ozai style.

And, of course, there's the fact ZUKO IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRE LORD THAT WILL BRING ON AN ERA OF PEACE AND KINDNESS! What kind of wise, merciful ruler would allow a place like that asylum to even exist, let alone turn their own sibling into a patient/inmate that will be abused there, ESPECIALLY when said sibling has basically surrendered already AND the writers themselves said that when he saw Azula cry after their Agni Kai, he felt no joy at his victory or anger at Azula for nearly killing him - he felt PITY! Katara even has to offer him some emotional support during it, for God's sake! I do not buy that he would not care about Azula's well being or see her being abused as some kind of "justice."

Azula would likely be cared for at the palace or at the very least in a good institution that would legit help her. Anything else is a disrespect not just to both her and Zuko as characters, but to the message of the show.

#asks #azula deserved better #azula meta #fire siblings #atla comics #the comics suck

[xxlovelynovaxx]

literally RIGHT AFTER we sent an ask to them complaining about pro-endo sysmedicalism and explictly mentioned that The Brain can push The Big Red "in event of trauma" button accidentally for reasons other than trauma if it exists

trauma is highly correlated with CDDs. a causal relationship has not been proven. there could be a confounding factor. there could be a causal relationship in MOST cases but have anomalies that exist

even other primarily traumagenic disorders, such as cluster B disorders, are typically acknowledged in non-ableist spaces to be able to occur endogenically, as just kind of a fluke of the intensely complicated SUPERCOMPUTERS integrated into every cell of our weird meat suits

like no actually you understand significantly less about the brain than the foremost neurologists, who openly admit the brain is still basically a black box to us at this point - especially where it comes to matters of consciousness

so no, you DON'T know that trauma is necessary for CDDs. I choose to BELIEVE people with CDDs about their origins, INCLUDING when they are nontraumagenic. if they later discover trauma, then I will also support them through that, because believing them does not ever preclude the possibility of self-discovery; just as I believe systems who are nondisordered and initially label themselves traumagenic but later realize they are endogenic, or any other combination of disordered status and origin

I'm willing to bet this anon doesn't even support endogenic systems with traumagenic CDDs, honestly, but anyway, I'm putting my grubby little mad liberation paws all over OSDD/DID as a DID system. You don't get to gatekeep the experiences in people's heads which you do not inhabit and in people's lives which you have not lived. That is literally the most basic tenet of Not Being An Ableist pre-101 remedial Don't Be An Asshole class.

(even if you were right, and 100 percent of disordered systems had the disorder caused by trauma, then we'd just be right back at "insisting that people in denial of their trauma have trauma is EXTREMELY HARMFUL IN BASICALLY ALL CASES" anyway so like. no matter how you slice it you're NOT helping people with this shit)

unfollowed and blocked etc etc but Gd DAMN I'm so fucking sick of people so confidently incorrectly making unproven and unsubstantiated claims like this. especially since most of them claim to be "anti misinformation" and "anti science" like L+you don't understand the first thing about how science works+claiming something to be fact without certainty is literally unscientific misinformation+you're treating science as a religion and pseudoscience as your dogma that you preach like christian evangelicals preach hate that isn't even in their holy book

literally just learn to talk about your own experiences without pretending they're universal. learn to believe people about their experiences.

get over your weird god-complex about how you think you understand the inner workings of the most complex organ system of the body to the point you think you can make definitive statements about causative relationships - that originate from the source that literally collectively combined to create art and science and write symphonies and unlock the secrets of the universe and laugh and grieve and experience its own self - and just go fuck off forever about it

No as a DID system we'll never leave OSDD/DID alone. You don't need trauma to have either. Especially OSDD since the high correlation has only even been found in DID. Hell, plurality co-occurring with any other number of neurodivergencies without trauma could be enough to cause OSDD just from the interaction of the two. We know for a fact that physical head trauma (which I know is not what you mean when you say trauma, and which occurs only until significant healing takes place which suggests it's not the later emotional trauma of a head injury which causes it - or any initial trauma associated with the injury) can cause DID-like symptoms.

Literally anything the brain can do under (emotional) duress it can do spontaneously, even if there are failsafes to try and prevent it occurring spontaneously. If someone's brain can change in structure in response to trauma, that structure can occur naturally. They can be born that way, even. They can have the brain form those structures as it's forming pathways to account for ones that aren't present due to neurodivergency.

Like do you understand ANYTHING about how the brain works? Is this just a side effect of bodymind dualism and treating the brain/consciousness as a nonphysical "psychological" soul-entity? Are you not aware that it's all electricity and chemicals coursing through writhing wiggling meat? Are you aware that components can go bork in weird ways that don't outright kill it but have seemingly no cause? Like, your LAPTOP can suddenly get fucked as a result of, not an update or being dropped or being really old, but just because a single gate on some random circuit on any old chip just went bloop and decided to get fucked for no good reason.

I cannot impress enough that there's 2 things here

1 believe people about their origins and disordered experiences or you're an ableist gatekeeping fucking asshole

2 if the brain can do a thing, it can do a thing period. whether or not the typical cause is there, it can just do it anyway

Anyway since mad liberation/general disabled liberation and neuroscience, particularly in the areas of neurological interactivity between genetics, epigenetics, multisystemic chronic illness, GI health, and so on, are my two major special interests and the latter is what I intend to study as my health improves,

, because I at least know enough to admit what I don't know with certainty and also I know enough to know the entire discipline of psychology at its best, separate from the current harmful institution, is just literally listening to people and recording it until you have enough data to make statements about general trends. Literally one system saying they don't have trauma and experiencing symptoms of a complex dissociative disorder and never saying otherwise is enough to prohibit complete certainty on the matter. Multiple systems doing so only reveals that the people doing so have a complete unscientific bias that they're allowing to get in the way of actual science

(This is without even getting into the flaws of our current diagnostic labels for disordered systemhood and our paradigm for understanding disordered and nondisordered plurality, especially with how it is treated as a binary and not a somewhat fluid and mutable spectrum)

Nothing more to say really. Just. Begone, asshole!

[hopeswriting]

omg wait because the actual last thing i want to say about the shimon arc is that it's an absolute CRIME amano glossed right over this:

[ID copied from alt text: A panel from the manga Katekyo Hitman Reborn, showing Sawada Tsunayoshi. He says "I would like to... turn down the title of the Tenth Boss of Vongola." in a calm and determined manner. /End ID]

and i know i already said it but the way she ignored this entirely??? literally didn't even if only mention it once after this. and the only way she "used" it and let it affect the plot is by having tsuna & enma relationship further fall apart, through tsuna seemingly agreeing to the ceremony and to become vongola decimo when he told enma otherwise.

like are you guys seeing what i'm seeing here? because this is the main character of the manga refusing to go along with the very premise of the story. very officially refusing to do it at that, like this couldn't be a more official refusal if he tried!!! from who he's saying that to to the stakes of his decision to the way the discussion is set up to the timing of the discussion to everything about this!!! this should have mattered and should have had consequences which would have changed everything for everyone!!!!!

i'm so upset. and i know amano glossing right over things that really shouldn't be glossed right over is just part of the khr experience, but this is the absolute worst thing she could have and DID gloss right over. like again this is the main character explictly saying he wants nothing to do with the promised payoff from the premise of the story. and then nothing. nothing!!!

but what if there was something tho??? like what if after they dealt with the whole shimon thing, they actually came back to this? actually acknowledged it happened? and the ninth really agreed to respect tsuna's decision like he said he would? what then?

WHAT THEN AMANO?????

#katekyo hitman reborn #khr #image id #sawada tsunayoshi #shimon arc #khr text post #khr reread #i'm upset because this is so CHEAP!!! #and that's probably not the right word but what i mean is that #the development of tsuna's character happened in such a way that this is /of course/ right where it should have led to #and so she gave us that because that's how you write a good story and how you keep your characters in characters #but then she refused to follow through when it came to the plot!!! #to the point this scene might as well not have happened at all because it's NEVER mentioned again #and doesn't affect ANYTHING or ANYONE #not even tsuna himself who ALSO isn't allowed to remember this happened #who isn't allowed to grow (more) resentful and angry over the fact they're still forcing a title he doesn't want on him #even if this time they promised him they'd actually /listen/ to what /he/ wanted #or something #literally /anything/ #but no nothing happened #because amano wanted to have it both ways but in this case it really just doesn't work #/couldn't/ have worked from the beginning #so yes i feel this is cheap and i feel cheated

[papakhan]

i’m sorry but it’ll never not be baffling to me that this new fallout wiki thing not only grouped the og khans with the new khans on one page and gave them like a paragraph each when the fandom wiki had seperated dedicated pages with huge amounts of info, but also that they don’t mention At All that the new khans became the great khans. like are you serious. what is this shit

no connection! ezekiel said they were wiped out! who knows what happened to them! these other guys called the khans? no relation. saying that the new khans became the great khans is speculation because no one explictly said that (except ezekiel)

#anyway i dont trust the new fallout wiki for a bunch of reasons. this is one of them #txt

[fipindustries]

If you don't mind me asking, why do you think Lovecraft's work is fascinating in spite of the bigotry, while that of Sinfest makes the latter insufferable?

interesting, a couple of reasons:

first, tatsuya is here now a days, living, breathing and actively putting his garbage into the world, lovecraft is dead and gone and a lot of his xenophobia is the xenophobia of the past, which is actually not that relevant to the bigotry of today.

second, tats is MUCH MUCH MUCH more explictly political in his comics. as in, his comics are outright propaganda, he will explicitly show, trump, he will explicitly talk about feminism and gender ideology and jews, etc. there is very little difference between sinfest and the tucker carlson show. whereas you can read lovecraft's stories and leave only with the surface reading of "creepy sci fi horror and aliens", you kind of have to read between the lines a lot of the time, or his xenophobia is more incidental because he will happen to mention italians as evil. but he is not trying to push for a specific party line in his stories.

third, lovecraft is, uh, good at writing. and tatsuya is the textbook definition of a hack.

one thing i will say about tatsuya, i still very much like his art. the way he draws in such a simplified, streamlined, iconic style is great, his comic composition tends to be really legible, such that most of the time you can tell exactly what is happening without any dialog needed and his control of color is amazing, and that is why, even though i despise the guy and everything he says and everything he stands for, i cant help but being a bit obessesed with the comic because it looks really good and i genuenly enjoy seeing it in a purely visual sense

[paradoxcase]

@1spoopyjerk:

you pointed out something interesting about John (at least, something i believe) - for all his presentation as a chill academic, it feels a bit like he does not approach necromancy in the same scientific/theoretical way that all other necromancers do. i can very much imagine ianthe presenting a drawn-out theory regarding necromancy's applications and john just going "yeah that sounds probably about right". his understanding seems primarily vibes-based

Yeah, it does seem sort of like that, especially with his incredibly scientific cure for Harrow's incomplete Lyctor issues, which was just "try to kill her until she's fixed, lol". I guess to him, starting life in a world where necromancy didn't exist and being raised with the idea that such stuff was fantasy, maybe it didn't occur to him, or never really sunk in that it can be scientifically studied in the same way?

@wellhappybirthdaytomeiguess

I think Augustine and Mercy explictly mention that the war seems pointless, and Augustine begs John to give up his vendetta. At which point John tells him that if 'the man you used to be heard you say that he'd be furious' or something like that...so it really does seem all about a war of vengeance.

Yeah, Augustine asking him to quit the war didn't really seem relevant to me back then, but I guess this is maybe something that they'd be tired of for a long time now and he thought that maybe if John was really going to beg for forgiveness, he could at least give them that given that the cavaliers are long gone at this point?

My theory: a few thousand years after the Resurrection, John discovered the descendents of the trillionaires, or the trillionaires themselves (FTL travel seems iffy in outcome) and could at last get his rage out.

Ah, so BOE are the descendants of the trillionaires who wouldn't fund his cryostasis project and that's his whole damage about them for 10,000 years? Ok, this reminds me of how some dumb white people oppose antiracism stuff by saying like, "but I never owned any slaves, why are you punishing me for something my ancestors did?" and totally miss the point that slavery was not that long ago and the whole institution is still having an effect on society even though it's not actually around anymore, and maybe John is seeing this that way, too, but... in this case (based on the first chapter of Nona) BOE definitely isn't populated by trillionaires, or people who benefited from their long-gone ancestors being trillionaires, and I'm sure that all that money probably lost its meaning when everyone died and it's been 10,000 years since then

#the locked tomb #1spoopyjerk #wellhappybirthdaytomeiguess

[theomnicode]

I'm once again reading some reddit comments and...

Saitama is "imagining his inner universe" when he can't even imagine a two-hit combo against King ---- Exactly... Saitama is untalented. Him learning a martial arts technique is straight up stupid.

Excuse me, since when has Saitama become untalented? Instead of just unmotivated because he became so strong he felt his talents and whatever he learned no longer mattered?

Is this why people are mad and unhappy with the manga? That Saitama the chad is not the self-insert they thought he was? That he's not actually a complete loser or something (like they pictured themselves in him and are now dissapointed and mad when he displays actual talent and are projecting)?

This talentless loser who does this with chopsticks alone?

And the chopsticks somehow don't even break apart, despite him flinging all this body weight around. Not the only time he uses chopsticks either and they don't break while somehow lifting full body weight of average male adult.

The same guy who pictures himself doing insane acrobatics and gymnastics inside his dreams because that's how he pictures himself ideally fighting if he got actually challenged? How he desires to fight? How he probably fought before he could just start tanking and oneshotting everything?

Same guy who jumped 8 fucking feet and snagged crablante's eye with a frikken tie when he had ZERO ACTUAL TRAINING? Olympic level jump btw.

Same guy who has worked multiple odd jobs like construction and theme park/festival, is great with budgeting, cooks, cleans, can do other household chores, is a handyman, improvises food sources, can prolly mend his clothes and willed himself to break the limitations of his own body?

Then obviously improvises in battles with high battle IQ and good judgement calls (Like when he immediately took out Evil Ocean Water but allowed CE to defeat Phoenixman on his own but was ready to step in if needed), has learned boxing from scratch like how he did a perfect right hook/cross against Garou.

He also performed a karate chop to the Vagus nerve to knock Garou unconscious when he thought Garou tried to mug him. Such an attack has a high risk of damaging the body instead of just knocking the person unconscious even for seasoned veterans and Saitama does it in one strike, flawlessly, without harming Garou otherwise.

Even if he copied what Garou tried to do to him then just before that, it still foreshadows his true abilities that he was able to immediately apply said knowledge properly. It's either that or pure raw acquired talent.

And this is just scratching the surface and not even mentioning his immense talents with his powers, like the sheer control that he trained 3 years to achieve.

"Untalented", btw.

Strongest man in the universe people thought had limitless potential or was infinite but he's just untalented. Physically untalented too.

Does this even make any logical sense?

Feels like we're not even reading the same manga at times.

Idk I guess if you can't be a pro gamer who wins tournaments and beat them in games, you're just a loser huh? Is that how it is?

Feels like there's a lot of cognitive dissonance going on at times.

Saitama is not Garou. It's true that Saitama is not a genious level at Martial Arts, but it hardly means he's untalented in what he sets his mind to. He also genuinely believes that humans are strong because they can change. He's an ordinary person with no special genes like espers, but what he has plenty is acquired talent when he is motivated to work to get it.

We were supposed to agree that Saitama is limitless. That's what we've been explictly told. Breaking limiter doesn't only mean that you get 999999 AP and nothing else.

Guess people forgot that premise of One Punch Man.

(pst he also folds clothes faster than most people, faster than Cyborgs at least)

All I can say to some reddit folks is:

Stop malding and self-inserting and start actually reading with your eyes open. Or stop reading, thats an option too, if OPM makes people so mad and disappointed.

#opm #one punch man #saitama #talent #fandom discourse #opm manga panels #garou #saitama is neither dumb nor talentless

[mellarked-katnisseverdeen]

Okay but what we SHOULD NOT do is fault Peeta...for like? Dareing to have feelings for Katniss, and express it/not forceing them away? This goes along with the argument that Peeta somehow forced/pressured Katniss into children agasint her wishes simply because Katniss mentioned she wanted them that I loathe as well.

The cold, hard truth I feel like Peeta anti's don't want to accept, is no. Peeta isn't in anyway morally wrong for having feelings for Katniss, or making her aware of/expressing that fact when she hasn't explictly told him not to. He is allowed to have feelings for someone. Peeta is also allowed want children, even when Katniss may not at the time. I see it so often...people explaining why they dislike Peeta go back to these two points as if they are somehow bad? Like no. There is NOTHING wrong with it.

Where one CAN say he is wrong if he is pushy about his feelings, and has been clear signals to stop making her uncomfortable by expressing them. Or in the case of kids, he'd be in the wrong if he didn't respect her desision to not want them or reacted badly about her choice. THOSE are the lines he'd have to cross to be in the wrong.

If you feel like he IS pushy? That's okay. I disagree but, fine. If you feel like he shouldn't have feelings for her cause narratively, or thematicly it rubs you the wrong way for whatever reason? Valid even through again, I don't agree. That's all fine. My problem is not with either of those things. It's when people seem to assume the very exsistance of his feelings or him so much as bringing them to light automatically means he is pushing something on Katniss. THAT is something I see so much whenever an anti Peeta anything crosses my path. Or again, that the simple fact Katniss says he wanted kids before she did that he means he MUST have pressed the issue.

I won't say anything about that one. For the life of me someone reading all three books and coming to the conclusion Peeta could EVER pressured Katniss into a single thing ever is absurd to me. But okay, rant over now XD.

#Everlark #Peeta Mellark #Katniss Everdeen #The Hunger Games #Meta #Back on my defending Peeta BS because I've had these thoughts bottled up for a WHILE. #I feel like he is so often judged for so much as having feelings and dareing to express them. And that just bugs me a lot.

[bandicoot88]

So I never mentioned it here, but a week ago, I had a dream that Gotham season 6 was a thing, but it was... also real life, cos I was there, and it was following the stories of mostly Jim I think and other characters who I literally do not remember who, and then finally it gets to Oswald and Ed and I’m like “OMG it’s them!”, but they’re like... older than their time skip versions, like probably another 10 years added (making them late 50s/early 60s).

They’re walking in an open, grassy area btw, a dog sanctuary to be exact, which Oswald owns (so instead of birds, he owns dogs, but I think the connection here also is that he legit owned a dog once and I momentarily forgot!) Oh, and Os and Ed are explictly a couple! A bunch of dogs run up to me (and my late mum, who was also in the dream), to check us out basically to determine if we were a threat. They were cool, so Oswald was cool. Anyway, don’t remember the details, but some threat was happening that was killing people (might’ve been some sort of virus or zombie-like thing or a combo of the two), so we’re all working together to fight off this threat and at some point this involves sinking something. Might’ve been a submarine, but much bigger than the one in the show. Whatever it was, Ed would be the last one to leave while it was sinking/filling up with water, which he agrees to btw, so he can do whatever he had to do before leaving.

However, this did not bode well with Oswald, with all the rest of us leaving the sub/whatever, but Oswald stopping and turning around being like “I’m not leaving my Ed”, to which Jim (I think?) goes back for Ed and basically beats him up so he can drag his ass back with the rest of the group (Ed wouldn’t have agreed otherwise). Ed takes a seat, battered up, and Oswald, seemingly appearing smaller at this moment, cutely snuggles up between his legs. And that’s all I remember.

#Batman #Gotham #Nygmobblepot #Oswald Cobblepot #Edward Nygma #Penguin #Riddler #Batman Other #My Stuff