#it's such a Loki kind of place loool

[theothercarter-arc]

“ this scar..what happened? ” > loki or vision

　　　　Sharon  actually had  to  stop  and  think about  what  the  person  in  front  of  her  was  asking.  That  pale  jagged line  a  little below  her  belly  was  not the  only  scar  on  her  body,  every  single  one  holding  a  story  she not  always  remembered with  sheer  precision. With  how  fair  her  skin  was,  Sharon most  definitely  scarred easily,  a  combination that,  with  her  job,  made  it  the  perfect  recipe for  having  a  body  decorated with  intricated  patterns of  memories.  Yet Sharon  had  never  been  ashamed of  any,  those  that  people called  imperfections  being things  she  had  earned  in years  spent  fighting for  a  country she  loved  and  for  ideals she  believed  right. And  when  that  hadn’t  been  the  same  anymore,  she  had  still  gained  some  to  stay  alive  and keep  the  freedom people  thought  she  no  longer deserved.  Either  way,  scars  where in  and  out  part  of  who  she  was.  

　　　　«  I  got  shot,  a  year  or  so  ago,  I  think.  A  retired  government agent  saw  me  here  and  thought  it  would  be  a  good  idea  to  try  and  bring  me  back  to  America.  »  That  had,  of  course, went  down  in  a  fight  that  had  ended  badly for  her  enemy. She  had  taken  out  the  bullet  alone, right  after,  and  stitched  the  wound  with  no  numbing, no  wonder  it  had  scarred unprettily.  «  You  guys  probably have  all  kinds  of  magic to  make  stuff  like  this  disappear  on  Asgard.  »

#I went with Loki cause I can see him being in Madripoor more easily than Vision for some reason?? 😂 #it's such a Loki kind of place loool #intoruin

[diamondcitydarlin]

Your post about queer relationships only existing safely for a lot of things inside fandom is so true tho. I remember when Loki was still airing and me and friends were sitting around wistfully going 'ohhh wouldn't it be nice of Lokius was canon.' making our silly little posts, only to be ransacked by Sy/ki shippers about how they'd win the ship war.

I had to look at that like :| of course you are you dumb fucks, Loki and Sylvie's actors are a man and a woman them 'winning the ship war' was a forgone conclusion. It can't even be called a canon ship 'war' more like a canon ship 'steamroll.'

It was the fact to me they couldn't stand even some people having a smidgen of hope for something that everyone knew was never going to happen.

loool I wasn't gonna name names buuuuut...yeah a little subblogging about that attitude within said fandom, though it's something I've seen to a certain degree in fandom spaces since I started interacting with them (around 98 or 99?). the compulsion to ridicule/invalidate queer pairings and the people that support them used to mostly be rooted in garden variety open, normalized homophobia (they were called 'slash' ships back then and were generally regarded as niche/'crack' pairings/sexually deviant etc even if neither character was ever sexualized in a fanfic/fanart whathaveyou).

In most mainstream fandoms of the time there really was a zero chance queer pairings would 'go canon' , aka 'win' at the 'shipping wars', something that is both normal to want and possible to achieve (/s) and no one on either side regarded any of these pairings with the pretense that they might actually be worthy competitors against a het ship- in the sense of 'winning' here being 'approved by capitalist overlords' and not necessarily in quality of writing or time spent developing it or depth or anything like that. Just if they kissed on screen or not, that was the bar lmao, and we all just assumed from the outset it would absolutely not ever happen that way and just kept to ourselves. But as our ships were still kind of considered 'weird' / 'kinky' / 'immoral' and so on people often felt comfortable trying to tear our interpretations, fanfics, etc into shreds (the only substance we actually had) either because it gave them a sense of superiority for a moment, just general homophobia, or because the ship in question had started gaining a lot of momentum and they were threatened by the implications of that. As if...there's some kinda rule that if one ship gets popular enough everyone has to adapt it and abandon all others, no questions asked lol.

Nowadays ofc being openly homophobic isn't as normalized as it was back then so you don't usually see the kind of uh...'saying the quiet part out loud' kinda stuff you'd see on yahoo groups and livejournal or whatever, but you definitely still see people feeling the need to explain why queer fans shouldn't try to adapt a source material around their own life experiences. And usually, these days, when there is much more of a chance of 'slash' being depicted openly, there's more skin in the game for them to feel intimidated and take petty action.

In the particular context we're talking about...and I'm not saying this is every person that ships it, just the ones exhibiting the behavior I'm talking about here, I think they are/were genuinely intimidated whether they were conscious of it or not bc Lokius is definitely depicted some type of way - they have a song named after them from the soundtrack, a reunion scene ripped straight from a romantic comedy, etc, and I mean...ultimately....Loki kinda chooses Mobius in the end. In a way lol. So did they really win, if indeed shipping needs to be seen as some kind of stupid competition?

And to be clear I'm not talking about having an opinion/criticisms of a ship and voicing them in places where people just trying to enjoy themselves are generally protected from see it, I'm talking about the clownery that is showing up in a ship's tag (either accidentally or otherwise) and doing the whole 'nyah nyah boo boo' stuff or in the attempt to be innocent 'am i the only one who doesn't ship this? DONT GET MAD AT MEEE' or the more direct 'if you ship this you are literally satan'

Because...why do that if your pairing choice is SO amazing and 100% the winner of the 'ship war' (that yall sometimes claim doesn't exist in the first place bc there is NOTHING romantic!! between loki and mobius!! FATHER SON RELATIONSHIP B/W TWO MIDDLE AGED MEN WE LOVE TO SEE IT)? why not just enjoy your amazing pairing and the fact that it's actually being represented on screen? why also tear down the people that lost and are just trying to cobble together a crumb of something for themselves? like imagine being that miserable of a person??